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- Lodi City Council plans to cap number of taco trucks at 22 (48)
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The USA needs to produce our own oil
Monday, July 7, 2008 6:24 AM PDT
I stated that drilling for oil in the United States of America should have started many years ago. Finally, the president is urging Congress to do so.
It's about time to free ourselves of OPEC, the sheiks of Saudi Arabia and the dictators of the other oil-producing countries. And why not, you liberals and environmentalists? If there's a mess, clean it up. China is going to start drilling off the coast of Cuba. I dare say they don't have the technology or the means of cleaning up if an accident should happen. However, the shores of Miami Beach will be able to tell, and this country will end up cleaning China's oil spill.
Drilling in the Arctic: Why not? To disturb a few caribou, what's the problem? Everyone in Alaska gets $1,000 a year as a dividend for the drilling and transportation of North Slope oil.
Speaking of OPEC, the Speaker of the House ordered the Justice Department to look into oil being over priced or manipulated by OPEC, and sue them if necessary. That was over a month ago. The oil ministers must still be laughing at the very thought of being investigated. Their thought: Nobody is asking you to buy our oil; only the more reason to start an all-out endeavor to produce our own.
I have read that there is sufficient oil in the U.S. to last 60 years. Without a doubt, the question will be answered as to how to operate cars without the use of turning oil into gasoline in far less time. Want oil in six months? Get the Wild Cat'ers on the job and watch the oil flow.
Obama stated it will take five years to get oil to the pump. Seems we should have started five years ago — just like nuclear — to keep the lights on since solar and wind cannot be counted on 24 /7.
Wake up America: The wolf is at the door.
Ed Walters
Lodi
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Leonard wrote on Jul 16, 2008 3:38 AM:
Leonard, Ah the grandstanding.
Nope, just the truth. If you cared about your Country as much as you care about your Party, you would recognize that. "
Brian wrote on Jul 15, 2008 7:33 PM:
Irag and the surrounding region, as Obama wanted it. "
Brian wrote on Jul 15, 2008 7:25 PM:
Leonard, Ah the grandstanding. You're so predictable.You Liberals are all the same. THE SKY IS FALLING!! THE SKY IS FALLING!! "
Leonard wrote on Jul 15, 2008 10:07 AM:
Leonard, Actually it is you that has
the task of trying to justify your unjustified contempt for Bush
The deplorable state of the Union is all the justification I could ever need. Just look around you Brian, George W. Bush has been a disaster for this nation and for the world. "
Brian wrote on Jul 15, 2008 8:19 AM:
Leonard, Actually it is you that has
the task of trying to justify your unjustified contempt for Bush. I get a kick out of your grandstanding. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 15, 2008 5:23 AM:
" DanielH, You truly are spun my friend! I think your ready for the big Indian to smother you with a pillow.
Chuckle.... and the question of where Daniel has been for the last three months is answered.
To be honest this has always been my assessment as well. His lucidity seems to follow a pattern that I suspect is chemical. "
DanielH wrote on Jul 15, 2008 1:45 AM:
I recommend a 12-step program, before you accidentally make a threat to someone who likes to use the local statute enforcement government protection agencies. "
DanielH wrote on Jul 15, 2008 1:37 AM:
I have a very strong sense of deja vu with your mentality, and I know that you didn't just materialize into Lodi from nowhere. "To" is my best guess, and I'm surprised you gave an Indian reference. That was more "Deport's" mentality. Maybe you are both. You could have two personalities. "
nextel wrote on Jul 14, 2008 9:07 PM:
DanielH wrote on Jul 14, 2008 8:39 PM:
These men* are just a small number of the beneficiaries. Don't you think that they would be smart enough to enable the 9/11 attacks?
Additionally, Bush is just a member of the Bush dynasty which dates back to at least grandfather Prescott Bush, who was dealing with the Nazi's, if not a member himself. Bush's rise to the presidency just reinforces the Bush dynasty.
Additionally #2: I now believe the 9/11 attacks involved international coordination.
*the new me is avoiding the words "person" and "people." "
DanielH wrote on Jul 14, 2008 4:18 PM:
If I could guess your old userID, I don't think it would be "Deport." I think you were "To," and we conversed all the time.
Also, conspiracy is a blanket statement, nonspecific, general, and simple. If you want to insult me, can't you at least say what you are talking about, without resorting to ambuities, and hoping that I would use my own imagination to be offended?
... and remember that I have changed in the past 6 months of silence, but noone knows what that means yet.
... In my opinion, you deserve to have either Obama, McCain or Clinton as your president. You can be sure that every word that comes out of their mouth is the truth. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 14, 2008 8:11 AM:
" Leonard, Since you feel the need to yet again hold such unjustified contempt for Bush I will bow out of this conversation.
Brian, if you feel that you can't keep up in a conversation, please, by all means, bow out.
I know I wouldn't want to have your task. "
Brian wrote on Jul 14, 2008 8:04 AM:
I need to go take another shower. The scum emanating from your words makes this sticky day in Arizona seem pleasant.
Have a nice rant :) "
Leonard wrote on Jul 14, 2008 7:53 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 14, 2008 7:52 AM:
The fact that he is far too incompetent to pull off such a plot is just reenforcing evidence.
W has failed at almost every endeavor he has ever undertaken. Why should we believe that this would be any different? "
Brian wrote on Jul 14, 2008 7:45 AM:
I need to go take a shower. The scum emanating from your words deems this. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 14, 2008 4:57 AM:
Brian wrote on Jul 13, 2008 7:59 PM:
Well Brian, if your standard for someone not being half bad is just that they must not have murdered 3000 of their fellow citizens, I would say you are setting the bar too low. "
Leonard, Forgive me, I'm not quite following you thinking here. I'm having a pre-senior moment. Please humor me and put it in words this pre-senior
can understand.:) "
Leonard wrote on Jul 13, 2008 7:04 PM:
Well Leonard, this statement of yours
indicates you think Bush is only half bad.
Well Brian, if your standard for someone not being half bad is just that they must not have murdered 3000 of their fellow citizens, I would say you are setting the bar too low. "
Brian wrote on Jul 13, 2008 2:10 PM:
Brian wrote on Jul 13, 2008 2:09 PM:
Well Leonard, this statement of yours
indicates you think Bush is only has bad. I've been under the impression up until now that there was nothing good about Bush. You now give him a 50% rating.
You are aware what every other means?
Or will you retract this and say you meant every initiative? "
Leonard wrote on Jul 13, 2008 12:20 PM:
" I, however, don't subscribe to the conspiracy theory of 911 as Danny does.
This theory is so far-fetched. "
We agree again. Mush as I despise Bush, I do not think he or his Administration were behind the attacks.
Besides, if the Bush Administration had orchestrated the attacks, they would have failed just like every other initiative they have taken. "
Brian wrote on Jul 13, 2008 11:59 AM:
This theory is so far-fetched. "
Brian wrote on Jul 13, 2008 11:57 AM:
Nextel, At least DannyH and I have the courage to use our own names. "
nextel wrote on Jul 13, 2008 11:43 AM:
DanielH wrote on Jul 12, 2008 5:38 PM:
DanielH wrote on Jul 12, 2008 5:36 PM:
If Obama wants to "ration" health care, and socialize medicine, I would expect some kind of Health ID card under which health care will only be given to people who are 100% compliant with United States corporate demands.
I would expect them to deny health care to anyone that does not carry their ID card.
I would expect a multitude of federal adhesion contracts that they do not disclose to the corporate persons (US Citizens)... all in the name of federal provisions of health care for all persons. "
DanielH wrote on Jul 12, 2008 5:30 PM:
Whether we have met or not, your lack of knowledge on the Yellow Brick Road carries onto your conversation where you are also able to criticize something that you know nothing about.
A man's word is his bond. Apparently your word is not worth very much. "
nextel wrote on Jul 12, 2008 11:29 AM:
voter wrote on Jul 12, 2008 9:57 AM:
" *BIDDING WARS FOR SURGERIES ON EBAY*
and then:
Brian wrote on Jul 12, 2008 9:53 AM:
" I look for the positive aspects of everything."
LOL!!!!!!!! "
Brian wrote on Jul 12, 2008 9:56 AM:
" Jess: I guess he is one of those do as I say, not as I do sorts of conservatives. "
Leonard, you wrote the book on double standards. I should have never read it. "
Brian wrote on Jul 12, 2008 9:53 AM:
Voter, this is what I do too. Whether you believe it or not, I don't care.
I suspect you don't even know about realclearpolitics.com
It's not a biased site. And I did get inspiration from Time Russert. I look for the positive aspects of everything.
Shoot, I even think liberals have promise. :) "
Brian wrote on Jul 12, 2008 9:48 AM:
" Brian, why are you condemning anyone's health plan? From I have read, you have no health plan for your family. Totally irresponsible.
Talk oil drilling, radio shows, etc, but your comments about health care are ridiculous. You rely on social programs if your babies get ill. Get off your soap box.
Put your family first and provide them with a credible health care plan, THEN come back here and preach.
Jess, so you are saying that I'm not qualified to talk about healthcare because at one time my family did not have health insurance? Am I also not qualified to talk about other things I may not have according to you?
A better argument would be some advice from me to you. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 12, 2008 9:44 AM:
voter wrote on Jul 12, 2008 9:40 AM:
You really outdid yourself on that healthcare comment--especially choice, considering you have no access to healthcare yourself. What's your source of info on Obama's healthcare plan? "
Jess wrote on Jul 12, 2008 9:04 AM:
Talk oil drilling, radio shows, etc, but your comments about health care are ridiculous. You rely on social programs if your babies get ill. Get off your soap box.
Put your family first and provide them with a credible health care plan, THEN come back here and preach. "
Brian wrote on Jul 12, 2008 9:03 AM:
And don't give me that garbage
"He wants change". "
Brian wrote on Jul 12, 2008 8:57 AM:
I consider Prager a wise person.
You sir, are so corrupted from left wing talking points you wouldn't know a wise thought even if it slapped you in the face.
Go back to listening to your Randi Rhodes podcasts. "
voter wrote on Jul 12, 2008 8:38 AM:
And from whence did that morsel of wisdumb originate, Brian? Limbaugh? Maybe a Pragerite confab in someone's rec room? "
Brian wrote on Jul 12, 2008 8:38 AM:
Obama is a nothing from C(R)ook County. "
Brian wrote on Jul 12, 2008 8:36 AM:
Brian wrote on Jul 12, 2008 8:29 AM:
OBAMA'S NEW AMERICA. CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN!!!!! "
Brian wrote on Jul 12, 2008 8:26 AM:
on Ebay.
I'm not going to leave anything out of the equation given how out of touch Obama is. "
Brian wrote on Jul 12, 2008 8:19 AM:
Now, under Obama's plan, it will be Americans on a waiting list too. "
Brian wrote on Jul 12, 2008 8:08 AM:
Leonard, Yes I know. It's called preventitive healthcare. This is a thorn in the side of the U.S. pharmecutical companies and doctors who love to make money off of unnnecessary surgeries. Counting on the government to change the mindset is foolish. Free market economics will change the mindset. "
Brian wrote on Jul 12, 2008 8:01 AM:
" So, I am curious Brian. Should I assume that you agree with the arguments that Nevin made in that article you sent me? "
Leonard, Not all of them.
As long as the tree huggers are bound and determined to file frivilous lawsuits against the oil companies and the oil exploration companies we may never know
how much oil is in America. And you seemed to have forgotten when Clinton vetoed the plan to drill in ANWAR some ten years ago. Somehow liberals feel we won't need oil at all someday. I remind you of all the things that are made out of oil. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 12, 2008 7:56 AM:
People are coming from Canada to the US for operations since it takes 6 months to see a doctor.
What you never mention is all of the Americans who try in one way or another to access the Canadian health system because they can't afford basic health care in the US, the sort of care that would save them from needing an operation. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 12, 2008 7:53 AM:
Lodi Res. I suspect this is as a result of the tree huggers filing frivilous lawsuits against the oil companies demanding they curtail their oil drilling activites in the states.
Did you even read the article you sent me? It clearly disputes what you just said. "
Brian wrote on Jul 12, 2008 7:50 AM:
DH, I'm glad to see you understand that Obama has promised he will ration healthcare, in so many words. Based on how he wants socialized medicine for the masses and how it has been a disaster in Canada and England, it's fair to say he is implying healthcare will be rationed. "
DanielH wrote on Jul 12, 2008 12:13 AM:
What's yellow? "
DanielH wrote on Jul 12, 2008 12:10 AM:
Let me remind you that all presidential candidates make promises, and that candidates George W. Bush appealed to approximately 50% of the voters.
Whoever gets elected, I assure you America will be surprised who they really get, and it won't be anything like their campaign. "
Brian wrote on Jul 11, 2008 11:02 PM:
" Voter: my source ? Take a look at Canada, England and the rest of Europe as far as Socalism is conerned, need I say more? People are coming from Canada to the US for operations since it takes 6 months to see a doctor. Nobody pays to see a doctor or have a medical proceedure done, just take a number and get in line, its a matter of time. You think our system is bad? The system in this country could use some work, but its the best in the world. "
dogs4you, You couldn't be more correct.
Our healthcare system has a few pings here and there, but otherwise it's very efficient. If Obama gets elected we can expect to see healthcare rationing. "
Brian wrote on Jul 11, 2008 10:51 PM:
" I just heard T. Boone Pickens say...In 1970 the US imported 24% of our oil. In 1991, we imported 42%. Today, we are approaching 70%.
Lodi Res. I suspect this is as a result of the tree huggers filing frivilous lawsuits against the oil companies demanding they curtail their oil drilling activites in the states. "
nextel wrote on Jul 11, 2008 10:33 PM:
nextel wrote on Jul 11, 2008 10:30 PM:
Fmrusafssgt, good post, this quote from from Buddha has always stayed with me. "Believe nothing, no matter where You read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense." "
Leonard wrote on Jul 11, 2008 10:25 PM:
DanielH wrote on Jul 11, 2008 10:08 PM:
fmrusafssgt wrote on Jul 11, 2008 10:04 PM:
DanielH wrote on Jul 11, 2008 9:52 PM:
I have been learning some things that are unbelievable, but which I absolutely cannot post in the public forum.
I still direct your attention toward the "Wizard of Oz," for the sake of substantiating a new topic, and to inspire curiosity, without having to directly describe its warning. Only the cowardly lion and silver slippers are attributed of human behavior.
Scarecrow sang a riddle which pertained to a fictitious trust, and he didnt have a brain. The movie gave us a clue when he was not subdued by the poppies. Scarecrow is a STRAW MAN trust, and he is deader than a doornail.
The Tax Identification Number (TIN) Man didnt have a heart, and he was not affected by the poppies either.
It takes courage to understand the scarecrow and the TIN Man and to overcome the affect that they have upon our lives. Silver slippers are precious, too. "
DanielH wrote on Jul 11, 2008 9:37 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 11, 2008 9:21 PM:
I'm still in Texas. The NY/NJ thing was tempting but I don't think it is going to happen. You can only move so much in a decade. "
DanielH wrote on Jul 11, 2008 9:14 PM:
DanielH wrote on Jul 11, 2008 9:13 PM:
JBS is wondering when I will publish a letter next. I probably will publish something, but the focus will be changed. Before, I was trying to influence congress. Now, I realize it is a waste of time. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 11, 2008 9:09 PM:
" Leonard: I have been going through some changes. The people I am with make fun of the JBS for their incomplete understanding of commerce.
That sounds like it could either be good or bad. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 11, 2008 9:08 PM:
1) Much of the current high cost of photo voltaic is due to economies of scale. If production were to increase drastically, as it is starting to do as a result of California's initiative, prices would eventually drop as production scaled up (after an initial increase due to increased demand).
2) There are several new technologies such as paint on solar that may drastically reduce the cost of production.
As for radiant solar plants, the cost of land is tempered by the fact that the best place to build such plants is in the desert where land values are historically very low.
Of course, that is just what I have heard. I am open to any arguments you might want to make to the contrary. "
DanielH wrote on Jul 11, 2008 9:05 PM:
In a nutshell, I am learning about the old movie, "Wizard of Oz," which was and still is a very true story. "
DanielH wrote on Jul 11, 2008 9:01 PM:
The most elaborate experiment that I ever saw consisted of a huge area of mirrors that aimed at a common source in the center, where there was a solar array.
Semi-conductor solar arrays are very expensive.
Solar energy is attractive in space applications to generate satellite power, because the high cost is justified and paid for.
When I worked in space hardware, a huge solar array 30 feet long, which fit inside the space shuttle bay at a cost of several million dollars, would generate a few kilowatts of power, enough to run 2-3 toasters to fry some bread. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 11, 2008 8:21 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 11, 2008 8:20 PM:
Perhaps you should contact Air America
and tell them that no matter what they do liberals really don't listen to talk radio anyway.
Your approach is not courageous at all.
And I suspect they would tell you to go jump in the lake for even suggesting defeat without entertaining new ideas.
I'm glad you're not one of those generals in Iraq. With an approach like yours we would have failed over there.
Am I the only one here who gets the feeling that Brian is secretly rooting for Air America? "
Leonard wrote on Jul 11, 2008 8:18 PM:
So Leonard, all that money that was pumped into Air America was done in vain?
What a way to deny their failed approach
I am not in anyway denying that they failed in their approach. They failed because liberals don't want to listen to Talk Radio. There are tens of millions if not hundreds of millions of so called liberals in this country, if they all wanted to listen to Talk Radio, AA would be raking in the bucks.
Obviously they don't and, as a consequence, AA went bankrupt. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 11, 2008 8:14 PM:
Leonard, to say you are holier than thou IS boasting, and ARROGANT. You don't even see the contradiction in your statement?
Sigh....
No, Brian, it was a joke. I thought the bit about being better endowed would have tipped you off to that but, just in case it didn't, I put the little emoticon on the end of my post.
I now realize that what I should have put was something to the effect of:
JUST JOKING!!!! JUST JOKING!!!! JUST JOKING!!!! JUST JOKING!!!! JUST JOKING!!!!
Conservatives have no sense of humor.... "
Brian wrote on Jul 11, 2008 7:28 PM:
Leonard, to say you are holier than thou IS boasting, and ARROGANT. You don't even see the contradiction in your statement?
And then to say there are facts to back it up is beyond holier than thou.
You're digging a hole you're not going to be able to get out of.
I suspect you haven't had that many humbling experiences that you persist in being so arrogant. "
Brian wrote on Jul 11, 2008 7:20 PM:
" Trying to provide people with a product that they neither need nor want is a good way to achieve bankruptcy.
One of the keys to Wingnut Radio is the fact that conservatives both need and want to be told what to think.
Just look at Brian.
:) "
So Leonard, all that money that was pumped into Air America was done in vain?
What a way to deny their failed approach
as to conclude that liberals didn't want to listen to Air America anyway.
And your cheap shot that conservatives need to be spoonfed is quite consistent of you.
Perhaps you should contact Air America
and tell them that no matter what they do liberals really don't listen to talk radio anyway.
Your approach is not courageous at all.
And I suspect they would tell you to go jump in the lake for even suggesting defeat without entertaining new ideas.
I'm glad you're not one of those generals in Iraq. With an approach like yours we would have failed over there. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 11, 2008 7:19 PM:
Once liberals do away with their holier than thou attitude they might have chance at getting market in radio.
Brian, you just don't get it. The people who want/need talk radio are conservatives. They are never going to listen to liberals.
Liberals don't want/need talk radio. They are not going to listen to it either.
BTW, I just have to say, we are actually holier than thou. I'm not boasting, I'm just stating the facts. We are also, statistically speaking, better endowed.
Look it up.
:)
-LP "
Brian wrote on Jul 11, 2008 7:11 PM:
" Brian, way to deflect from a bald face lie that they are out all together. Or were You just passing on the lie from one of your talk radio stars? "
Nextel, I never said they were out all together. Those are your words. There market is very small from what it used to be. Many millions of dollars were pumped into Air America. They thought they could thrive. Leonard contends that liberals don't need talk radio. This is only an excuse. Liberals want to stay informed just like everyone else. If liberal talk radio would take
a more positive approach they could thrive like conservative talk radio.
By they choose to take an arrogant and angry approach. People grow tired of that.
Once liberals do away with their holier than thou attitude they might have chance at getting market in radio. Until then, Air America and the likes will not flourish. Not all liberals are arrogant and angry. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 11, 2008 6:17 PM:
One of the keys to Wingnut Radio is the fact that conservatives both need and want to be told what to think.
Just look at Brian.
:) "
Leonard wrote on Jul 11, 2008 6:15 PM:
B: If liberals did need to listen to talk radio to form their liberal opinions, then they would all be tuned into Air America and it would have great ratings.
The fact that liberals don't need talk radio is evidenced by AA's relative failure to thrive. "
nextel wrote on Jul 11, 2008 6:07 PM:
nextel wrote on Jul 11, 2008 6:04 PM:
nextel wrote on Jul 11, 2008 6:00 PM:
Connect the dots with your own noodle.
Senate.Gov, House.Gov, freedom of information act, C-Span 1 and 2, BBC and other world news without Corporate or political bias. "
Brian wrote on Jul 11, 2008 5:54 PM:
That said, Leonard contends Liberals don't need to listen to talk radio because they can form their own opinions. This seems contrary to the existence of Air-America. Why then is Air-America still on the air in light of Leonard's contention? And why the need for the Fireness Doctrine if this is the case? "
Brian wrote on Jul 11, 2008 5:47 PM:
" I'm confused Brian.
Why do you care why Air America went out of business? "
Leonard, I don't. Nice try at redirecting.
By the way, If Liberals don't need talk radio why are Pelosi and Co. so hellbent at resurrecting the Fairness
Doctrine? My answer would be: they are so frustrated that their views aren't
on the radio waves that much they have to pass a law to get them on. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 11, 2008 5:29 PM:
" Leonard: You wrote, "Why?"
Since when are you so kind? "
Not kind, just curious.
Where have you been, anyhow? "
DanielH wrote on Jul 11, 2008 5:25 PM:
Since when are you so kind? "
Gator wrote on Jul 11, 2008 3:45 PM:
2.00 a gallon gas again, in fact the low threes might not be possible
I also find it very interesting that T-Boone Pickins is fronting the largest
Wind farm in the world down in Texas. And his other project is for
Natural gas powered Cars Trucks and Planes. For those who dont know
Pickins history he is one of the richest Oil men in this country. I will include
a link to his energy plan, www.PickensPlan.com.Here is another reason to
cut off the Arabs, you dont like the Iraq war well we are paying for both
sides the more Arab oil we buy the more money they put into killing
American soldiersGot to love those Saudis, our friends, just dont bend
over. Speaking of dry holes, there were 75 dry wells in the north sea before
they hit one of the biggest fields ever. If the green light was given to drill
you will see the oil flow under 5 years. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 11, 2008 3:41 PM:
The message put forth by many liberal talkers is so often hate-filled and vitriolic to the point of obscene.
If the good folks at Air America would at the very least try to tone down the anger and angst they just might be able to turn the network around
I am kind of surprised that a guy like you would listen to Air America. Personally, I avoid all talk radio like the plague. In my experience, it is all mental masturbation of the worst kind. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 11, 2008 3:33 PM:
Conservatives need to/like to listen to talk radio.
Liberals don't.
So what? "
fmrusafssgt wrote on Jul 11, 2008 3:15 PM:
What one cannot dismiss, however is the absolute success of conservative radio. The message put forth by many liberal talkers is so often hate-filled and vitriolic to the point of obscene.
If the good folks at Air America would at the very least try to tone down the anger and angst they just might be able to turn the network around. But I don't think that it is at all possible. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 11, 2008 3:05 PM:
nextel wrote on Jul 11, 2008 2:14 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 11, 2008 1:25 PM:
Why do you care why Air America went out of business? "
Brian wrote on Jul 11, 2008 1:16 PM:
Leonard, Air America only had an audience of "arrogant tripe" that had nothing to offer other than their "holier than thou" approach to life. The sooner you realize this the sooner you will have to use your brain
and then you will realize how right the Right is. "
Jeff wrote on Jul 11, 2008 12:12 PM:
Tomorrow Ill call for lifting the federal moratorium for states that choose to permit exploration, McCain said. I think that this and perhaps providing additional incentives for states to permit exploration off their coasts would be very helpful in the short term in resolving our energy crisis.
It is cruel to mislead the public on a subject that matters so much to all Americans. If only we had a politician willing to engage in straight talk on this important issue.' "
Jeff wrote on Jul 11, 2008 12:10 PM:
The oil companies already have access to some 34 billion barrels of offshore oil they havent even developed yet, but ending the federal moratorium on offshore drilling would probably add only another 8 billion barrels (assuming California still blocks drilling off its coast)...the constraints on offshore drilling have little to do with the price of oil, but a lot to do with timing. Once the leases are available, it is a 5 to 10 years before you get to exploratory drilling. There is a tremendous shortage of drilling rigs and manpower. Plus, offshore drilling is so expensive, you dont want to make any mistakes. So you spend do a lot of seismic analysis to minimize your chances of a dry well... "
Leonard wrote on Jul 11, 2008 11:34 AM:
The trade deficit would be at least $70 billion dollars less, the Middle East would be an unimportant global backwater and the cheap supply of domestically supplied energy would make American companies and products competitive on the global market.
Instead, each of these "leaders" ignored the problem in the hopes that it would go away. The guilt is on all of their shoulders. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 11, 2008 11:26 AM:
Air America failed because they couldn't find enough liberals with any opinions based on facts.
Chuckle...
Air America failed because Liberals don't need Talk Radio to tell them what to think. The very thing that makes Talk Radio successful with conservatives dooms it with liberals. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 11, 2008 11:22 AM:
" Leonard... did you do this???
No, but at first I was afraid that I had.
I'm glad that it is gone. "
Gator wrote on Jul 11, 2008 9:29 AM:
We have sat on our hands for 35 years since the Arabs shut off the oil, hint. hint and we have done what?? Nada, Zip, Zero, except to go on a consumption binge. Big everything, Homes, flat screen TVs, SUVs, big
Trucks. A lot of what one hears is Bush is big Oil! So what!! We have gone
through 7 thats right seven administrations with out a working energy
policy. Wake up people, oil hit 146 and change today. We asked the Saudis to give us 200,000 more barrels a day and they said no!! And you hear they
Just want to drive the price higher, WRONG they dont have it to pump
their so-called reserves are far less than what they say. Toyota said today
they will stop making Trucks and SUVs and produce the Prius in the US.
drilling for our oil is a stop gap measure but should be done even if all it
does is show the rest of the world we are serious "
Brian wrote on Jul 11, 2008 8:27 AM:
" The explanation for the success of conservative talk radio is simple.
Most liberals are capable of forming their own opinions. The vast majority of so called conservatives are not and they need to be told what to think. Talk Radio performs that function.
As John Stuart Mills said, not all conservatives are stupid but most stupid people are conservative. "
Leonard, this is farthest from the truth and you know it. Ann Coulter's
book "If Democrats Had Any Brains They'd
Be Republicans" sums it up perfectley.
Air America failed because they couldn't find enough liberals with any opinions based on facts. All they found was liberals with knee-jerk reactions. "
sam wrote on Jul 11, 2008 7:12 AM:
All the blogs, or a lot of them, are all bold. I am sorry I accused you. I thought it was a minor "dropped closing mark". I am guilty of doing this to one blog months ago.
L, please accept my apology.
It must be Friday. Just coming on a blog full of bold comments makes me chuckle. "
sam wrote on Jul 11, 2008 7:07 AM:
Happy Friday. "
falcon wrote on Jul 11, 2008 5:50 AM:
falcon wrote on Jul 11, 2008 5:42 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 11, 2008 5:39 AM:
" Leonard: Campaign for solar is for people that don't know what they are talking about.
Why? "
falcon wrote on Jul 11, 2008 5:38 AM:
DanielH wrote on Jul 11, 2008 12:11 AM:
DanielH wrote on Jul 11, 2008 12:10 AM:
I am also glad to see someone asking why Rancho Seco is down. "
DanielH wrote on Jul 11, 2008 12:08 AM:
When the air expands, without absorbing heat, the expansion results in a temperature decrease, hence ice formation.
The worst possible scenario would be at 33-degrees on a humid day.
ethanol also creates a problem for food prices, because food production is diverted. "
DanielH wrote on Jul 11, 2008 12:04 AM:
Also, if the vehicle is converted with heater fuel lines, there is no reason to bother with diesel. Just go to Win-Co foods and buy the cheapest soy bean oil one can find. $1.29 per gallon. Dump it straight into the tank.
Some people make arrangements with fast-food restaurants to be the oil disposal service. McDonald's deep-fat fryer oil will probably run just fine if it is filtered, but if diesel is necessary, it has to be reacted. "
DanielH wrote on Jul 10, 2008 11:58 PM:
zinfandel wrote on Jul 10, 2008 6:29 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 10, 2008 5:55 PM:
If we are wise as we go forward, we will diversify into a wide range of fuel options including nuclear, solar, and a wide variety of bio fuels. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 10, 2008 5:52 PM:
The real promise is in the technology that can turn agricultural waste into fuel. Imagine if the rice farmers, instead of burning their fields at the end of the crop cycle, harvested all the leavings and converted them to fuel. "
SportsGuru wrote on Jul 10, 2008 1:59 PM:
Many alternative fuel ideas aren't practical - Ethanol for example - because for every action there is an equal and opposite re-action.
Check out this article from the Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/26/AR2007012601896_pf.html "
Leonard wrote on Jul 10, 2008 1:42 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 10, 2008 1:02 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 10, 2008 9:16 AM:
The validity of the statement has nothing to do with the authority of John Stuart Mills.
It looks to me like you are using the Appeal to Authority Fallacy in reverse. "
Giovanina wrote on Jul 10, 2008 9:00 AM:
Giovanina wrote on Jul 10, 2008 8:55 AM:
" And there you have the difference. No. its not BECAUSE John Stuart Mills said it. Its true AND John Stuart Mills said it.
The distinction is everything. "
John Stuart Mill was raised a Utilitarian/associationist. His dad got him a job with the East India Company, in the early 1820's. As we know, the East India Company was a government all to itself, and exploited the world for profits. And Mill was quickly promoted in the company. But Utilitarianism is basically Machiavellian thought, the ends justifys the means.
Except for the quote blasting conservatives, I doubt Leonard knows much else about Mill, Utilitarianism, associationism, etc. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 10, 2008 6:48 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 10, 2008 6:45 AM:
Even if it does prove to be viable, it is unlikely to ever produce more than a modest flow (though perhaps a very long-lived one) of extremely expensive, synthetic oil. It is not some quickly available "two trillion barrels" of "crude," as you asserted, and it will require an enormous amount of energy, probably from coal, to produce.
http://www.energyandcapital.com/articles/peak+oil-anwr-gas+prices/726 "
Leonard wrote on Jul 10, 2008 6:44 AM:
(Pro drilling advocates) are laboring under the mistaken belief that the U.S. can somehow drill its way out of dependency on foreign oil, and that increased domestic production could the relieve today's "high" prices.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
In fact, the U.S. uses about 20 mbpd of petroleum, and produces about 7 of that. The other two-thirds is imported because there is no possible way that we could produce another 13 mbpd domestically, even if we drilled every single place that might have oil.
Regarding the potential of oil shale.... after four decades of fully authorized, commercial, even subsidized attempts to develop oil shale into a usable fuel, no one has ever been able to make it economically feasible. Part of the reason for that is that it's not even really oil-it's kerogen, an immature precursor to oil, and it takes an enormous amount of energy to turn it into something usable.
cont. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 9, 2008 5:33 PM:
" I dont know much about the background of Pat Robertson, but I do know about Jesse's race hustling.
Jackson is a pig and I am not just saying that because of what he did today (as a google search would show).
Robertson is most infamous for his claim that 9/11 was God's way of punishing America but he's been saying the same sort of things for 50 years. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 9, 2008 5:31 PM:
" Brit Hume reported that Jackson also "threatened to cut off a certain part of Obama's anatomy.
Jackson said he hoped his remarks would not be taken out of context or construed as a lack of support for Obama's campaign.
What possible context could make that not offensive.
Perhaps this is all a hidden blessing. It will allow Obama to finally jettison Jackson now, a good ways from the election. "
falcon wrote on Jul 9, 2008 4:55 PM:
Jess wrote on Jul 9, 2008 4:38 PM:
Jess wrote on Jul 9, 2008 4:37 PM:
Jackson said he hoped his remarks would not be taken out of context or construed as a lack of support for Obama's campaign."
Jesse Jackson is one class act... NOT. He is such a loser. Obama is so much better off without his support. Actually anyone is better off without his support. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 9, 2008 3:49 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 9, 2008 3:46 PM:
When you were listening to Rush did you ever hear him tell the story about Kennedy getting caught getting it on with some girl on his boat by some paparazzi camera. They showed the pic to some other Senator and he said, "I do declare that the Senator has changed his position on offshore drillin
Chuckle.... "
falcon wrote on Jul 9, 2008 3:09 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 9, 2008 3:04 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 9, 2008 2:51 PM:
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 2:34 PM:
And as is becoming the norm, after making these seemingly 'accidental' misstatements an apology follows right along. Yet all they usually consist of is something to the effect of 'I am sorry if my remarks may have offended anyone.' Ooooh, my heart just melts when they come clean like that!
I don't buy that kind of nonsense for one moment. Everything these politicians utter is rehearsed. Yet the more dim-witted members of the public still eat up their futile attempts at humility when they offer these worthless apologies. There is no accountability. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 9, 2008 2:21 PM:
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 1:52 PM:
You're right, it isn't my thing. I find that when I reduce my conversation to that level all civility and sense of purpose evaporates. I find those who regularly participate in such immature behavior to be lacking in basic intelligence; being unable to construct rational sentences without the use of such language is certainly telling of an individual's character and respect for others. I also believe those who mask their profane remarks with characters such as '$#@&*' are no better. "
falcon wrote on Jul 9, 2008 1:46 PM:
REV. JESSE JACKSON APOLOGIZES TO SEN. BARACK OBAMA FOR 'CRUDE AND HURTFUL COMMENTS' CAUGHT BY OPEN MIC... CNN DESCRIBES AS 'UGLY WORDS,' 'VERY, VERY DISPARAGING'; JACKSON IN 'DEEP DISTRESS'... FOX NEWS IN POSSESSION OF TAPE AND WILL PLAY IN ENTIRETY TONIGHT ON 'O'REILLY', 'HANNITY AND COLMES'; OBAMA: NO COMMENT... DEVELOPING... "
falcon wrote on Jul 9, 2008 1:03 PM:
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 12:58 PM:
Once he is elected in November I will certainly sleep much easier.
We've been waiting a long time for the 'one' to reach down and pull us from the quagmire that is our greed and moral depravity. And here he comes!!! "
falcon wrote on Jul 9, 2008 12:40 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 9, 2008 12:34 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 9, 2008 12:30 PM:
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 12:29 PM:
Was this at the same time that the oil companies were being accused of 'raping' the landscape? To think, you may have legally purchased an automobile, filled it with legally-obtained gasoline that you paid for with legal tender and somehow you must be evil for doing so!! How dare you!!
Of course if you don't own a Hummer, please accept my sincere apologies - you are absolved. "
falcon wrote on Jul 9, 2008 12:26 PM:
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 12:25 PM:
Of course things here are rather mild compared to the likes of the Huffington Post where nothing is restricted. The hatred and vitriol that exudes from that one website (and there are many more just like it) is truly frightening. No doubt the Secret Service monitors sites like that for any credible threats against our leaders.
Here at least there are a few rules although they are skirted at every opportunity and the folks at the LNS doesn't take monitoring their own forum very seriously. "
falcon wrote on Jul 9, 2008 12:19 PM:
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 12:17 PM:
When those who are losing the debate realize it, they resort to those types of tactics. There are many ways of distorting other's 'names' here but to do so only exhibits fear and intellectual deficiency on the part of those who are being threatened. "
falcon wrote on Jul 9, 2008 12:15 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 9, 2008 12:10 PM:
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 12:05 PM:
Then perhaps you might agree that much of the rancor that exists between Leonard and I could have been avoided had he pronounced that the subject of 9/11 was extremely sensitive to him.
Anyone who has followed these blogs is aware that I will avoid or proceed with extreme deference with those who have special circumstances. However, again if I am not made aware of these circumstances just how can anyone expect me to be held responsible if they become offended? "
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 12:00 PM:
Actually this is simply not true. I am overly cautious and gentile with those who vehemently oppose my positions. And while you might want to get your facts straight regarding my comments, using quotes around 'Loony Left' to insinuate what I wrote is disingenuous at best. The exact words were 'far-left loons.' For the record I consider anyone on the extreme fringe of any ideology to be a lunatic, from which the word 'loon' is extracted; those being the radical right, left or religious. This is my opinion and it is held by many reasonably-minded people.
I am also curious as to which 'camp' you are referring. While both Republicans and Democrats have their share of epithets and name-calling, there is no doubt those on the far left (the loons of which I spoke earlier) easily outnumber those on the center, right or far right of the political spectrum.
Regardless, I do not 'blur the lines,' in my conversations on any forum. "
Ivan Dixon wrote on Jul 9, 2008 11:33 AM:
Talking about the Holocaust doesn't make me uncomfortable. I just think you are wrong about it. "
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 11:24 AM:
You don't know that I didn't. Of course what difference would it make if I hadn't announced my experiences? Should I expect you to somehow know how certain subjects affect or offend me? Is the Holocaust and/or 9/11 off limits as topics of discussion? If so, then I would suggest that those who choose not to engage in conversations with subjects that they are uncomfortable with should simply refrain from bringing them up or not respond when other people do wish to discuss them.
You see, this is the crux of the entire episode between Leonard and I and now you and I. It was you who mentioned your people to which I simply responded. You never (until now) indicated that you were Jewish or that the subject was in any way difficult for you to deal with. The same holds true for Leonard and his reaction to my comments. Instead I am pilloried for comments that I made with no knowledge of their apparent implication to you or him.
Obviously enough has been said. "
Ivan Dixon wrote on Jul 9, 2008 11:08 AM:
Ivan Dixon wrote on Jul 9, 2008 11:01 AM:
The men and women who died on 9/11 died as free people.
The Jews who died in the Holocaust were tortured and humiliated in every way possible before they were killed. Families were torn apart. Babies heads were bashed in before there parents very eyes. Wives were raped while their husbands were bayoneted. Those who survived did so knowing that it was their parents and children who were being burnt before their very eyes.
Everyone dies sooner or later. In that fact we are all equal. How we die, however, makes a great deal of difference, to me at least. "
nextel wrote on Jul 9, 2008 10:59 AM:
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 10:55 AM:
I never even suggested that these two events were the same. Each were horrific in their own right. My position is, and has always been that each human life is precious. This apparently is the fundamental problem.
Are you suggesting that those murdered on 9/11 are less tragic than those who died at the hands of the Third Reich?
My response to you that '[b]y the way, 'my' people were slaughtered - on September 11, 2001' isn't any less true now then when I posted it two days ago. 'My' people are those citizens who were murdered at the hands of terrorists. You found that offensive?
Now, as far as what I was or was not doing on September 11, 2001 - this is no one's business but mine. Just know that I was no less affected by that tragic day than millions of others. There are many events in my lifetime that have changed me. But I do not expect you to read my mind as you make your remarks. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 9, 2008 10:39 AM:
Ivan Dixon wrote on Jul 9, 2008 10:38 AM:
Ivan Dixon wrote on Jul 9, 2008 10:37 AM:
What were you doing on 9/11? "
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 10:36 AM:
I'd kill the one to save the 50.'
And if that 'one' was your child, which way would you throw it? "
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 10:35 AM:
Ivan Dixon wrote on Jul 9, 2008 10:33 AM:
It goes back to the old saw about what if a train was going to take one of two tracks and, if it took the first one it would hit 1 person and if it took the second, it would hit 50 people and you have to throw the switch to decide which track it takes.
According to your way of thinking, it doesn't matter which way you throw it.
I'd kill the one to save the 50. "
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 10:23 AM:
I'm a guy who believes that each human life is equally precious - I've said as much over and over again. There are others who actually believe that 50 humans are more precious than the one. Just where is the moral superiority in that line of thinking?
I am confounded by some peoples' reasoning, aren't you?
And yes, this is getting very silly. "
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 10:12 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 9, 2008 10:08 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 9, 2008 10:08 AM:
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 10:04 AM:
I believe my points have been made; but if further nonsense is directed at me I will respond accordingly. "
Ivan Dixon wrote on Jul 9, 2008 10:02 AM:
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 10:00 AM:
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 9:56 AM:
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 9:54 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 9, 2008 9:50 AM:
" No, Girard would want you to believe that the slaughter of any number of human beings is despicable. The 'volume' of people killed only heightens the horror; it does nothing to affect the 'value' of those who were killed
Which, of course, was not what I said. If you are not going to communicate with me anymore, can you at least stop misrepresenting my statements?
It was, after all, you who accused me of devaluing the lives lost on 9/11. "
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 9:47 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 9, 2008 9:36 AM:
From now on I have no desire to engage in any type of conversation with you on this forum. While that may not bother you, it does other me.
That doesn't bother me at all. At this point, I can't imagine how I could ever take anything you say seriously again. I only wish you had been upfront with your moral depravity so I could have avoided wasting my time with your previous posts. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 9, 2008 9:33 AM:
Girard would have us believe that 9/11 was no worse than Columbine.
Girard would have us believe that the murder of 6 MILLION Jews was no worse than 9/11.
As tragic as the death of a single individual may be, numbers do matter. It is exactly Girards sort of thinking that made it possible for a nation to attempt to eliminate an entire people.
The fact that he can't see how reprehensible his ideas are is just further evidence of his complete and utter moral bankruptcy. "
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 9:32 AM:
Regardless, your carrying over this incident from one blog to another is further evidence of your incredible lack of maturity and common sense. This incessant name-calling and belittling that you subject others to is wearing thin. If you cannot accept responsibility for your actions and words, then you're in the wrong place. At the very least the LNS should have suspended you for an appropriate period of time. They saw fit only to first remove the offensive comment, but now it appears they removed the entire 'conversation.' The problem with that is that now those who did not get the chance to read the discourse themselves do not have the benefit of analyzing it in its true context.
From now on I have no desire to engage in any type of conversation with you on this forum. While that may not bother you, it does other me. "
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 9:27 AM:
Now THAT is offensive. First, you have no idea how that day affected not only me, but countless other people; to think since you suffered a certain degree of horror unlike anyone else's is the height of arrogance. You don't know where I was or what I was doing on that day either. Yet, I wouldn't dream of holding you accountable for what might 'appear' to be insensitive remarks (they were not). But this is exactly what you expected of me.
(Continued . . .) "
girard74 wrote on Jul 9, 2008 9:24 AM:
It appears that only you can be 'offended' by what others write. You found what I wrote to be offensive and because you intimated that the slaughter of 'only' 3,000 compared to one million that one incident was more egregious than the other. That was offensive to me. In fact, I stated that '[a] single life snuffed out at the hands of despots or terrorists is no less a tragedy than millions.'
The offensive word you used is tantamount to the infamous 'F' word and you know it. Simply using a synonym doesnt relieve you of the responsibility of your intent. That SHOULD have had you banned. The only thing we have here are the rules, which you violate on a consistent basis. Your further comment about my 'courage' is interesting that it comes within the absolutely safety of a blog. Your own 'courage' is convenient.
(Continued . . .) "
Leonard wrote on Jul 9, 2008 3:31 AM:
Heck, it wasn't even one of Carlin's "Seven Words You Can Never Say on Television.
Well, so it is. My only regret was that G didn't make his remark in some more open context where I could have told him what I really thought about him.
Cussing is an art and I would like to think that I have some talents in the field. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 9, 2008 3:23 AM:
Perhaps G feels that he is without sin or perhaps he is simply such a big baby that he has to run to mommy every time he is taken to task for his statements. I don't know but I will say that by the time he was done with his one-two sucker punch, I had lost all of the considerable respect I had developed for him over the last couple of months. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 9, 2008 3:16 AM:
" Frankly, most of you people have no idea what you are talking about regarding my recent remarks to another on this blog. He certainly knows but the rest of you can draw your own conclusions based upon whatever you desire. I really don't care.
Sigh....
Here's what happened.
G was trying to suggest that the 9/11 attacks in which 3,000 innocent Americans were murdered were just as bad as the Holocaust in which the Nazis murdered 10 MILLION people, 1.5 MILLION of which were children. I called him to task and he responded with:
girard74 wrote on Jul 7, 2008 6:44 PM:
Those people slaughtered on 9/11 were no less innocent than the 6,000 million slaughtered in the holocaust. Your insinuating that their lives were of less value than those is patently offensive to me.
I responded to this filthy accusation with language that was completely appropriate to the remark but, perhaps, inappropriate to a family news paper. G responded by reporting me to the censors, evidently in the hopes that I would be banned. "
girard74 wrote on Jul 8, 2008 11:30 PM:
educated reader wrote on Jul 8, 2008 10:13 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 8:52 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 8:51 PM:
papercut wrote on Jul 8, 2008 8:22 PM:
papercut wrote on Jul 8, 2008 8:21 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 7:51 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 7:42 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 7:37 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 7:35 PM:
sam wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:46 PM:
Your 4:57 blog sounded like you were attacking yourself. I took Leonard's 5:07 blog to mean that one might want to report you for attacking yourself.
I thought he was funny.
Reread your 4:57 blog. "
nextel wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:23 PM:
sam wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:20 PM:
girard74 wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:12 PM:
Because I really do not have the time or inclination to engage in any sniping or petty name-calling, this will be my last offering in this regard and will happily engage in debate with other more reasonable people. "
girard74 wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:02 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:01 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 5:07 PM:
No, that would be the act of a cowardly weasel. "
girard74 wrote on Jul 8, 2008 4:57 PM:
Interestingly, they often then use noble and acceptable terms such as 'the right to choose' when describing the right to kill an unborn human being. While those against the practice often display bumper stickers that state 'anti-abortion,' theirs sport benign statements like 'pro-choice.'
I had the audacity a number of weeks ago to use the word 'consume' as I was describing our use of various resources here on earth that I believe are put here for that very purpose - consumption. The attack against me was harsh and extreme. Imagine I actually believe that trees, while here for our enjoyment and survival (shade and oxygen) are rightfully consumed by us for paper products and lumber for our homes. How dare me!! "
voter wrote on Jul 8, 2008 4:23 PM:
Robb wrote on Jul 8, 2008 3:46 PM:
THEN WHAT GOOD IS THE LAND?... "
Ivan Dixon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 3:42 PM:
It will really (expletive deleted) off the libs.
Anything else is window dressing. "
OTH wrote on Jul 8, 2008 2:00 PM:
Awk Awk. We need to all become pastafarians. "
dyan wrote on Jul 8, 2008 1:46 PM:
We would rather be blakmailed by our enemies. That's a good definition of mental illness. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 1:32 PM:
" This is when the libs show they have no self discipline. They start name calling. Rush is a drug addict,
Rush Limbaugh is, by his own admission, a drug addict. As for whether he is fat, have you no eyes in your head? The man has to be topping 350. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 1:31 PM:
All estimates indicate that we sit on an abundance of oil that if procured would reduce, if not eliminate our dependence upon others for our energy needs.
I have never seen a single study that claimed we could achieve energy independents by raping our wildlands in a frenzy of oil exploration.
What study, specifically, are you citing? "
girard74 wrote on Jul 8, 2008 1:11 PM:
All estimates indicate that we sit on an abundance of oil that if procured would reduce, if not eliminate our dependence upon others for our energy needs. Not going after that oil is reckless. We need to drill and refine.
While we're doing that we should not behave as we have in the past - when the price begins to fall (and it will fall), we should not get lazy and stop searching for other energy solutions. The oil will run out one day; from what I've learned this is a mathematical certainty. But to permit millions of citizens to suffer at the hands of those who hoard their oil when we have access to so much of it here is reprehensible. "
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 12:48 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 12:42 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 12:40 PM:
Jess wrote on Jul 8, 2008 12:26 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 12:00 PM:
You sound like a fat man who just discovered the cost of donuts is going up. Quick, buy up the supply of donuts. More bakeries, more bakers, more, more, more. We cannot run out or be forced to pay more.
Well put. "
Robb wrote on Jul 8, 2008 11:26 AM:
What does this all mean?? "
Jess wrote on Jul 8, 2008 10:28 AM:
But it is hard to believe the rants of a drug addictive, gluttonous fat man. "
Jess wrote on Jul 8, 2008 10:27 AM:
You sound like a fat man who just discovered the cost of donuts is going up. Quick, buy up the supply of donuts. More bakeries, more bakers, more, more, more. We cannot run out or be forced to pay more.
Dude, ever consider a diet? Life without donuts is great.
We need to change our gluttonous ways. More drilling will not help us. Ever see the price up gas go down in your life time? With China in the picture owning our country on paper, $10 a gallon will be here soon enough. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 8:41 AM:
We need more oil production. We need more oil to refine.
Even if that was the solution, which it is not, we simply don't have the reserves to significantly change the price of gas. That's not me making up stats thats the info from the Bush Administrations own reports.
You may love driving your 10 mpg Hummer but prices will inevitably rise and no amount of domestic drilling is going to change that fact.
All we can really do is try to adjust our practices and technology to meet the challenge. "
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 8:28 AM:
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 8:23 AM:
2) Increased use of renewable fuels-increases the price of food as resources are diverted. Does not lower price.
3) Stopping the continuing devaluation of the dollar. -Government trying to control markets. Does not work.
4) Reining in the speculators. - Government trying to control markets. Does not work.
If you think that the government can control these markets with a lever, why dont they just put a price cap on oil? "
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 8:02 AM:
" Liberals keep saying "Why?" The answer is the result. What we are doing now is not working. What are the liberals doing that is helping to lower the price of gas? What are they suggesting?
1) Greater fuel efficiency standards
2) Increased use of renewable fuels
3) Stopping the continuing devaluation of the dollar.
4) Reining in the speculators.
I could go on but you see my point. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 8:00 AM:
" I thought Bush was an idiot?
He's an idiot whose employees are extremely unlikely to underestimate the returns on a drilling plan that they have been championing for 8 years. "
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 7:58 AM:
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 7:58 AM:
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 7:57 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 7:55 AM:
" Leonard, "Federal lands hold an estimated 650.9 trillion cubic feet of recoverable natural gas, enough to meet the natural gas needs of 60 million households for 160 years (60 million households in the United States are fueled by natural gas). They also hold an estimated 116.4 billion barrels of recoverable oil, enough to produce gasoline for 65 million cars and fuel oil for 3.2 million households for 60 years." - Is this true?
Not according to the Bush Administration which says that the estimated resources are only a fraction of that (see below). "
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 7:54 AM:
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 7:52 AM:
Lodi Resident wrote on Jul 8, 2008 7:16 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:53 AM:
" Drill now. Drill hard. Drill often. Drill Drill Drill..
Why? "
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:40 AM:
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:38 AM:
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:37 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:32 AM:
" Leonard, the wolf is at the door. It is time to drill.
15 cents won't make a difference but destroying our national parks will strike a death blow to tourism economies across the nation. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:30 AM:
" I think that most people do think for themselves and intelligent, honest people like Rush, Hannity, and the likes confirm our beliefs
And you need that confirmation? You enjoy that stroking?
Personally, I am fine on my own. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:29 AM:
" I think that most people do think for themselves and intelligent, honest people like Rush, Hannity, and the likes confirm our beliefs. I thought this way before I ever listened to Rush. There was this guy Ronald Reagan...He was much smarter than most. The liberal media hated him. Just like they hated Bush Sr.
I thought Rush pretty much hated Bush Senior. Didn't he call him a "Taxing Traitor"? "
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:28 AM:
" Obama said that he abused drugs. Maybe he is lying?
I think there is a difference between the youthful experimentation that George W. Bush and Barack Obama may have engaged in and the hard core addiction that almost sent Rush to Federal Prison. "
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:27 AM:
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:25 AM:
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:23 AM:
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:19 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:17 AM:
" I would trust Rush over CBS (Dan Liberal Rather, forged documents) ABC, NBC, or CNN any day of the week.
I wouldn't trust any of them, I would try to think for myself. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:13 AM:
" Leonard, can you pull an 8000 lb boat with a hybrid? Do they make a hybrid Peterbuilt?
That's what you do for a living? You haul a boat?
Well, good luck with that when you are paying $9.00.... no, I'm sorry $8.85 a gallon for gas. "
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:11 AM:
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 6:02 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 5:52 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 5:49 AM:
" Rush did not say it Pew said it
So Rush says.
Drug Addict=Liar. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 5:49 AM:
" Leonard, 15 cents. 15 cents times 26 gallons is $3.90 per tank time 2 cars is $7.80 a fill up. $15 bucks a month.. $180 a year. Food, travel, goods, fuel in your delivery van. I say drill.
It seems to me that a much more sensible solution would be to put our efforts into cutting our reliance on oil.
I drive a hybrid with a 12 gallon tank that I fill up once or twice a month. I say let our natural areas be and do what we should have done back in 1980. Save America once and for all from its dependence on Big Oil. "
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 5:47 AM:
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 5:45 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 5:42 AM:
Just because Limbaugh says something, it doesn't mean that it is true.
Falcon, drug addicts are liars. You shouldn't believe a word an addict says to you, especially if you are economically enabling their addiction. "
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 5:36 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 5:35 AM:
" Yea, I know Leonard, that is why they pay Rush the big bucks, because his audience is a bunch of poor idiots. Have you ever listened?
I spent a whole summer back in 1989 driving a delivery van with an AM radio. I listened to Rush every day that summer and he was just as full of cr@p back then as he is today although I suspect that back then he was at least marginally sober.
As for his audience, even poor idiots buy things just like everyone else and they are a hell of a lot easier to sell to. I am sure that some advertisers find Rush's audience to be a very easy demographic. "
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 5:31 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 5:31 AM:
" The USA needs to drill for more oil! Add to the supply. Other countries will do the same, and the price of crude will come down. We need to fire up the Nuke program, extract oil from shale, develop new technology
How much will drilling reduce the cost of gas. The estimates I have seen (US Department of the Interior) suggest that, at most, exploiting America's remaining reserves would reduce the cost of a gallon of gas by $.15.
Do you have more promising statistics? "
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 5:27 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 5:25 AM:
Rush's audience is a well informed educated group. Market data has proved that.
Really? Have you ever seen this market data or do you merely assume that it exists because Rush, in a drug induced fit of mastabatory self praise, claimed that it existed?
Actual data collected by real life pollsters has shown time and time again that, taken as a group, talk radio listeners generally have below average incomes and education. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 5:21 AM:
The distinction is everything. "
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 5:18 AM:
falcon wrote on Jul 8, 2008 5:16 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 8, 2008 3:10 AM:
Most liberals are capable of forming their own opinions. The vast majority of so called conservatives are not and they need to be told what to think. Talk Radio performs that function.
As John Stuart Mills said, not all conservatives are stupid but most stupid people are conservative. "
nextel wrote on Jul 7, 2008 9:49 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 7, 2008 9:36 PM:
nextel wrote on Jul 7, 2008 9:35 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 7, 2008 9:32 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 7, 2008 9:24 PM:
nextel wrote on Jul 7, 2008 9:21 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 7, 2008 8:51 PM:
" Leonard, where is your compassion? He is a recovering drug addict.
Stringfellow, I have this fine, centrally located bridge that I would like to sell you at a very reasonable price.
Anyone who has listened to Lush in the last year or so knows that the guy is using on a daily basis.
Remember that time he started break dancing while he was making fun of Michael J. Fox? HIGH AS A KITE!!!! "
falcon wrote on Jul 7, 2008 8:39 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 7, 2008 8:33 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 7, 2008 8:30 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 7, 2008 8:16 PM:
" voter, since you are more up to date on the facts, Is it true that Rush Limbaugh is going to buy a new Gulfstream G550?
I suspect he will do what he did with his last raise: buy a ton of hill billy heroin and a judge or two.
One would think that even the dimmest conservative bulbs would have tired of the worlds most obese drug addict.
Apparently not. "
voter wrote on Jul 7, 2008 8:11 PM:
voter wrote on Jul 7, 2008 8:09 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 7, 2008 7:57 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 7, 2008 7:56 PM:
dogs4you wrote on Jul 7, 2008 7:56 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 7, 2008 7:50 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 7, 2008 7:47 PM:
dogsyou wrote on Jul 7, 2008 7:45 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 7, 2008 7:41 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 7, 2008 7:37 PM:
Ivan Dixon wrote on Jul 7, 2008 7:35 PM:
I love it when a true blue American fighting man like yourself sticks it to these draft dodging libs who never served a day of their life in the military.
Keep up the good work. As a Patriot, I thank you and your fellow soldiers for your service to our Great Country. "
falcon wrote on Jul 7, 2008 7:34 PM:
voter wrote on Jul 7, 2008 7:24 PM:
" If Obama gets in, prepair for Socialism, as 40% of what everyone makes will go to the government."
Dogs, what's your source for that statistic? "
dogs4you wrote on Jul 7, 2008 7:17 PM:
voter wrote on Jul 7, 2008 7:15 PM:
" China is drilling 60 miles off of Florida with Cuba's blessing."
This is a lie told by Dick Cheney last Wednesday and one he has already been forced to retract. Still, this doesn't stop the idiots on talk radio from repeating it. You really ought to consider checking your sources. Senator Mel Martinez (R-FL) was so embarrassed by the VP's original statement that he spoke out on the Senate floor, calling the remarks, "without merit." "
T&c wrote on Jul 7, 2008 7:14 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 7, 2008 7:10 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 7, 2008 7:06 PM:
falcon wrote on Jul 7, 2008 6:59 PM:
girard74 wrote on Jul 7, 2008 6:51 PM:
Then by all means let the prosecutions begin! If the Bush administration has committed crimes, why have the authorities been sitting on their hands? Why havent Bush, et al. been impeached?
This constant rant is getting tiresome. I'm finally to the point of insisting that those who desire to remove this president do so or move on to something else. As for those who choose to simply believe Bush is guilty but lack the ability to do anything about it, then I would suggest that they're simply wasting a tremendous amount of energy. But it's their energy to waste, so rant on. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 7, 2008 6:46 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 7, 2008 6:44 PM:
" Nextel, Leonard, and the rest of your not to bright morons, here`s the deal, quit your moaning and belly-aching and by an electric car.
AWESOME!!!
I'm a moron when you think that by is a synonym for purchase. "
Leonard wrote on Jul 7, 2008 6:41 PM:
Since no proof exists to support this long-held belief
I would think that the no bid contracts that have been awarded to Big Oil under State Department pressure would be all the evidence anyone would need.
If I had to pick a single phrase to summarize all the entirety of the Bush Administration it would be no bid. "
dogs4you wrote on Jul 7, 2008 6:34 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 7, 2008 6:23 PM:
" We need to drill now and quit listening to the liberal nay sayers that continue to cost us all more money
Well, if Stringfellow Chickenhawk is for it, you know it must be bad.
I am curious SC, what percentage of the petroleum currently extracted from Alaska by Big Oil is sold to American consumers? "
Leonard wrote on Jul 7, 2008 6:16 PM:
" Nextel: You have no problem paying $4.50 a gallon, you must have big bucks also.
Yup. If we raped all the wild-lands the Repugs want to rape, we could knock that price right down to $4.38 a gallon. That is if we could magically access these unproven reserves overnight.
Its a plan that only an Oil Executive could love! "
girard74 wrote on Jul 7, 2008 5:17 PM:
Since China has finally entered into the industrial fray, why shouldn't they profit by our decades of neglect? It isn't that I've given up on anything; I simply refuse to hand over my money for something of lesser value simply because it's stamped 'Made in the USA.' That makes me neither a traitor nor an idiot; it makes me a smart consumer. "
nextel wrote on Jul 7, 2008 4:47 PM:
nextel wrote on Jul 7, 2008 4:24 PM:
How about neither Brain donor! Chevron, Exxon, Shell, ect.. can still make big healthy profits by shaving 50 cents a gallon off at the pump and keep this economy humming into the future, but instead the greedy bastards show us every quarter these gotty profits that are killing this economy. And then little Corporate co-dependents like You run around trying to justify getting screwed without a kiss. "
falcon wrote on Jul 7, 2008 3:10 PM:
dogs4you wrote on Jul 7, 2008 2:28 PM:
girard74 wrote on Jul 7, 2008 2:16 PM:
Yet you leave out the part about the exorbitantly high prices these American companies expect for their mediocre products.
In recent years it has been my growing experience that the quality of American goods is becoming lower while the prices continue to rise. As long as there are others who produce the same or better quality of goods for a lower price, just who should win that contest?
Why would anyone choose to pay more for less, even if it does come from China? "
nextel wrote on Jul 7, 2008 2:00 PM:
dogs4you wrote on Jul 7, 2008 1:34 PM:
girard74 wrote on Jul 7, 2008 11:44 AM:
Perhaps if American manufacturers would get off the dime and start to put quality back into its goods to justify the ridiculously high prices they demand then the junk from China won't have the level of attraction to Wal-Mart customers that it currently enjoys.
From my experience over the past decade 'Made in the USA' doesn't mean it is any better than products labeled 'Made Anywhere Else.' This also applies to any so-called services offered by many American companies. Just this weekend I was treated to Customer Service the likes of which I would have not found acceptable just ten years ago. Sadly, this concept has gone the way of the quality of American-made goods.
There has been this growing sense of arrogance that accompanies these lower-quality, higher-priced 'goods' that emerge from our factories. China (and others) is simply enjoying our 'supply and demand' philosophy that we have come to take for granted. Pity. "
nextel wrote on Jul 7, 2008 11:22 AM:
falcon wrote on Jul 7, 2008 10:38 AM:
falcon wrote on Jul 7, 2008 10:35 AM:
girard74 wrote on Jul 7, 2008 10:15 AM:
In the past we've been a nation of 'doers,' not whiners. Since we know for certain that producing our own oil will bring the price down AND since there are no other viable energy solutions anywhere near ready to effectively reduce the price and/or our dependence upon foreign oil, waiting one more day to drill only extends this so-called 'five-year' wait.
We (the People) need to stop complaining and start working. Those who want alternative energy sources and the devices that will utilize them - get to work. Those who want to keep their internal-combustion engines that require gasoline - get to work. Somewhere in the middle (maybe 2.5 years) there will be a solution. Until then however, perhaps we as a nation will have something to work 'for' instead of working against each other.
The alternative is to continue to do nothing, change nothing and continue to whine. "
girard74 wrote on Jul 7, 2008 10:08 AM:
After more than five years just how much oil have we illegally extracted from that region? Not one thimble.
Since no proof exists to support this long-held belief, a new theory is beginning to take root. Yes, it makes complete sense that this administration has been accepting cash from OPEC for not going after our own oil.
I'll tell ya, for a president who has been designated as one of the most stupid that we've ever had he, along with his stupid cohorts sure are clever, aren't they?
As I've conveyed over and over again, if there was one iota of proof that President Bush or anyone in his administration has committed any crimes why hasnt he been impeached? Surely his detractors cannot seriously suggest that now Bush is too smart not to have been caught? Hatred certainly spawns some incredibly silly notions. "
T C wrote on Jul 7, 2008 9:24 AM:
T & C wrote on Jul 7, 2008 9:16 AM:
papercut wrote on Jul 7, 2008 8:51 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jul 7, 2008 4:33 AM:
TOTAL projected untapped U.S. oil reserves (according to U.S. Dept. of Interior): Around 49 billion.
Estimated yearly output from untapped reserves (projected over 50 year life-span of wells): Around 1 billion barrels per year.
Estimated global demand for oil in 2012 (earliest estimate of time required to bring untapped reserves to market): 95.8 million barrels a day, 35 billion year.
1/35th of current price of gasoline (3.98): 12 cents.
Projected price of gasoline in 2012* (based on $2.25 per litre): $8.53 per gallon.
Number of oil spills costing more than $1 million in American waters since 1990 (according to U.S. Government Accounting Office): 51.
Economic impact of beach tourism (Florida only): $39 billion per year.
* Untapped production included in estimates. "
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