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Will Obama promote American values?

Updated: Friday, April 25, 2008 8:54 PM PDT
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Is presidential candidate Barack Obama a Christian? We all know that Obama proudly advocates that the Rev. Jeremiah Wright brought him (Obama) to Jesus, but what many people don't realize is that the Jesus, to whom the Rev. Wright brought Obama, is a black Jesus.

Christianity comes from the scriptures of the Holy Bible which makes it quite clear that Jesus Christ was a Jew, not a black man. It makes sense then that Obama's Church and the Rev. Wright promote a black value system, an African ministry and even gave a Lifetime Achievement Award to Louis Farrakhan — widely known for his hate and condemnation of the socalled "evil white man" and especially the Jewish race.

Christians following the words of the Holy Bible don't advocate hate for any race while promoting a ministry of Jesus Christ's love to all people of all races and cultures. Common sense makes it clear that the Jesus, which the Rev. Wright brought Obama to, is not the Jesus Christ of the Holy Bible who was, without dispute, a Jew and the Son of God. According to the Bible, the primary law covenant which Jesus Christ advocates is to "Love your neighbor as yourself." Jesus Christ didn't say to minister only to the black man and condemn the white man, nor did he say to damn America, any nation or any race of people. So yes, maybe the Rev. Wright brought Obama to someone named Jesus, but that Jesus is in opposition to Christ Jesus of the Holy Bible.

Since the Rev. Jeremiah Wright has been Obama's spiritual adviser and mentor, will Barack Obama make a good president? Will Barack Obama promote American values or just black values? Will Obama promote unity among all Americans or just African Americans? If any man attended and supported a church that promoted strictly a "white value system" and only a "caucasian ministry" he and his church would not only be labeled a racist, all would know that the man and his church are racist!

Barack Obama's famous quote: "My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it."

Bryan Stamos
Lodi

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Lodian wrote on May 6, 2008 7:38 PM:

" Brian: P.S. No one is having a serious conversation with you. "

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Lodian wrote on May 6, 2008 7:36 PM:

" Brian wrote on May 6, 2008 9:25 AM:
"We're having a serious discussion here.
Go back to your crosswords."

Your wife finished all the crosswords already. "

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Leonard wrote on May 6, 2008 5:58 PM:

" FROM REUTERS: The office of the official responsible for protecting federal workers from political interference was raided by F.B.I. agents on Tuesday as part of an investigation into whether he himself mixed politics with official business.

Man, it is just astounding. Is there any nook or cranny of this Administration that has not been soiled by corruption? "

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sam wrote on May 6, 2008 1:14 PM:

" Thanks Leonard for the email and for correcting me.

Clinton is the town not the Senator.

I stand corrected. Boy, it is all over internet that he IS Hillary's pastor. Weird !

Sorry for spreading the rumors. "

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sam wrote on May 6, 2008 12:39 PM:

" The irresponsibility here is on the media, who wish to blow out of proportion those issues which will inevitably divide Americans, by focusing on the behavior of Barack Obamas former Pastor, while ignoring other transgressions by the pastors of Presidential candidates, even though Hillary Clintons former Pastor has actually been convicted of a crime.

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/80486/
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sam wrote on May 6, 2008 12:38 PM:

" Hillary Clinton has nothing to apologize for, nor should she feel tainted because her former Pastor, William Procanick has been convicted of sexual child abuse of a seven year old girl. By the same token, Barack Obama has no responsibility for the words of Rev. Wright, nor for the words of his successors in the pulpit. "

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sam wrote on May 6, 2008 12:37 PM:

" UTICA -- When the Rev. William Procanick put his hand on the Bible during his sex-abuse trial in Oneida County Court earlier this year, he swore to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
But as the former Clinton pastor was sentenced Friday to three years in prison for inappropriately touching a 7-year-old girl at his home last March, Judge Michael L. Dwyer said Procanick sacrificed his honesty the day he testified. "

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sam wrote on May 6, 2008 12:35 PM:

" UTICA A former Hillary Clinton pastor told jurors in Oneida County Court Thursday that there was nothing sexual about the way he massaged a 7-year-old girl who was spending the night at his home last March.

But in a phone conversation recorded by Oneida County sheriffs investigators, the Rev. William Procanick is overheard telling the girls mother he was wrong to have caressed the girls body that night. "

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rwayne wrote on May 6, 2008 10:18 AM:

" In reading responses already posted it is good to see that most readers reject the not to suttle racism of Mr. Stamos. Also, his interpretation and understanding of Jesus which is woefully uninformed. "

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Leonard wrote on May 6, 2008 9:31 AM:

" Be kind to The Dreaded Rear Admiral. I think he is still a little hung over for the Workers Parade festivities on May Day. "

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Leonard wrote on May 6, 2008 9:26 AM:

" Our Dear Comrade, The Dreaded Rear Admiral wrote on May 6, 2008 9:23 AM:

" Leonard says he sympathizes with Gadzooks yet he proposes the government
have complete control

Perhaps you also either missed or misunderstood the part of my post where I said that I thought Gadzooks needs would be better served by PRIVATE insurance?

Why do you comment on posts you haven't read? Do you just honestly enjoy making a fool of yourself? "

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Brian wrote on May 6, 2008 9:25 AM:

" Lodian wrote on May 6, 2008 9:22 AM:

" Brian: You have serious things to discuss with your wife already. "

What, your lies about me?

We're having a serious discussion here.
Go back to your crosswords.

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Leonard wrote on May 6, 2008 9:23 AM:

" Our Dear Comrade, The Dreaded Rear Admiral wrote on May 6, 2008 9:19 AM:

Perhaps you should explain to to my wife that my life insurance policy will go right to the governemnt and she won't get a cent of it under your proposal

My dear Marxist friend, perhaps you missed the post in which I specifically said that I did NOT think that life insurance policies, which are paid to the beneficiaries, not the estate, would be taxed?

Or perhaps you simply did not understand what you read. I have heard that the Communist school system wasn't that great. "

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Brian wrote on May 6, 2008 9:23 AM:

" Leonard says he sympathizes with Gadzooks yet he proposes the government
have complete control.

Liberalism is truly a mental disorder.

Leonard isbound and determined to leave his "Marx" in the world, "

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Lodian wrote on May 6, 2008 9:22 AM:

" Brian: You have serious things to discuss with your wife already. "

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Leonard wrote on May 6, 2008 9:20 AM:

" When we consider the Dreaded Rear Admiral's ongoing advocacy of a system which robs the living of their wealth and redistributes it to serve the masses and their national interest, it is hard to escape the conclusion that this man is some sort of a Marxist.

Comrade Dreaded Rear Admiral, could that possibly have been the Soviet Navy in which you served?

:) "

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Brian wrote on May 6, 2008 9:19 AM:

" Leonard wrote on May 6, 2008 8:39 AM:

" The Dreaded Rear Admiral: How is it more ridiculous to tax the dead once than to tax the living year after year after year? "

L, I agree
with Cogito's assessments of you.

Perhaps you should explain to to my wife that my life insurance policy will go right to the governemnt and she won't get a cent of it under your proposal. "

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Leonard wrote on May 6, 2008 8:57 AM:

" What I am talking about has much more to do with Horatio Alger.

We would be giving people the bootstraps to pull themselves up by. "

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Leonard wrote on May 6, 2008 8:55 AM:

" I am hardly robbing from the rich to give to the poor.

What I am doing is quite different. I am giving all people the tools and the opportunity to make themselves rich.

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish (and give him a loan to buy a fishing boat) and he will eat for a lifetime. "

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Cogito wrote on May 6, 2008 8:52 AM:

" Leonard, when you were a young boy, was your favorite literary character Robin Hood? You have a lot in common with his idealism, even though modern times have forced yours to be much more complicated. Your book would look more like a Tolstoy novel. "

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Leonard wrote on May 6, 2008 8:39 AM:

" The Dreaded Rear Admiral: How is it more ridiculous to tax the dead once than to tax the living year after year after year? "

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Leonard wrote on May 6, 2008 8:38 AM:

" The Dreaded Rear Admiral wrote on May 6, 2008 8:32 AM:

" Leonard, your proposal is ridiculous.
Are you also going to deny the survivors
of the dead life insurance policies too?

I don't see why one would. "

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Brian wrote on May 6, 2008 8:32 AM:

" Leonard, your proposal is ridiculous.
Are you also going to deny the survivors
of the dead life insurance policies too? "

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Leonard wrote on May 6, 2008 7:55 AM:

" Gadzooks: I do sympathize with your situation.

Its hard to imagine how you will ever be able to sock away enough money to care for someone like that in perpetuity after you are gone.

To me, it seems that situations like yours would be better handled by some sort of insurance. I don't think anything like that exists today but it is exactly the sort of service that might be provided by tomorrows entrepreneurs, if they were given the freedom, the opportunities and the resources to make this a better world. "

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Leonard wrote on May 6, 2008 7:40 AM:

" gadzooks wrote on May 6, 2008 6:43 AM:

" I have an adult disabled son who will never be able to completely care for himself, even though he does have a part time, low wage, no benefit job. If I am not able to will enough money for him to have a paid caregiver, he will end up on the streets or locked up in an institution.

What a crummy system we have. Wouldn't it be great if we could change it?

Sadly, we never will until citizens like you and I start to search for other, better options. "

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gadzooks wrote on May 6, 2008 6:43 AM:

" Leonard, your little scenario is not something nice to think about for those of us with serious family responsibilities. I have an adult disabled son who will never be able to completely care for himself, even though he does have a part time, low wage, no benefit job. If I am not able to will enough money for him to have a paid caregiver, he will end up on the streets or locked up in an institution. Your fantasy is cruel, at best. "

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Leonard wrote on May 6, 2008 6:28 AM:

" Of course, its never going to happen.

But it is nice to think about. "

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Leonard wrote on May 6, 2008 6:27 AM:

" That said, in the grander scheme of things I think many people are motivated by a desire to leave a better world for their children and grandchildren.

What better way to do so than to create a world in which your descendants can live as free and prosperous people, a world in which they can actually use the wealth that they create, a world in which they are answer to themselves instead of some multigenerational amalgamation of wealth and power.

I think that would be a real legacy to leave to our children. "

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Leonard wrote on May 6, 2008 6:24 AM:

" Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 9:14 PM:

But why build wealth and prosperity if it's going to be someone else's money upon your death?

Ummm.... to eat, to put a roof over your head, to enjoy the fruits of your labors? Why do childless people work? I don't think that the desire to leave an inheritance really figures that largely into the average persons daily motivation.

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Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 9:26 PM:

" I'm sure wherever he is, he's on task, and on subject. The poster child for anal-retentive. "

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voter wrote on May 5, 2008 9:24 PM:

" Where's our new friend, "Eugene", tonight? "

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Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 9:14 PM:

" Leonard, I will never get "used to income tax". I'm in the 25% bracket, and self-employed. So add 15% more on top of that. We paid more than 40 grand to the feds this year, I feel the pain. But why build wealth and prosperity if it's going to be someone else's money upon your death? I want my family, or a charity to get it, before some nose picker I don't even know gets it. It's my property, I earned it, and a big part of my motivation in doing so is to leave a legacy to loved ones. "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 6:28 PM:

" If my system were already in place and someone suggested that you should start paying the government a percentage of your monthly income so that the next 10 generations of Kennedy's can get by without doing a lick of work, you would be OUTRAGED! "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 6:24 PM:

" Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 3:20 PM:

In your system, that right would need to be severely compromised.

Our property rights are already severely compromised by income tax. You just don't see it that way because you are used to income tax.

Which is worse, for the government to tax you once when you are dead and cannot use the money anyways or for the government to take from you every month funds which you absolutely need to create wealth and prosperity? "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 6:16 PM:

" People have been evading taxes since long before Jesus told his followers "to render unto Caesar".

If the strongest argument against my system is the fact that people will inevitably try to evade it, I would say I am doing pretty well. "

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Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 3:20 PM:

" Leonard, your idea, which I do find some nobility in it's idealism, would turn into a highly governmentally regulated and administered house of cards. And that's not anything remotely close to capitalism. Read the book "Eat the Rich", by P.J. O'Rourke. The guy is a humorous writer, I think you'd like it. In it he attempts to find out why some countries are more economically successful than others. He concludes that the most important thing is property rights, both real and intellectual, that separate the good from the bad. In your system, that right would need to be severely compromised. "

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Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 2:52 PM:

" Say I have a company worth 1 billion dollars. So what's to stop me from paying my child 1 billion dollars in salary for the last year I own the company. The company would be left bankrupt, or my kid could buy it at face value. Either way, my kid gets the money. Unless of course you establish something even more anti-capitalist than tariffs, a maximum wage. "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 2:46 PM:

" In other words, no more NAFTA.

Danny H will love it!!! "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 2:18 PM:

" Here is the part where I diverge from the path of pure capitalism.

In order to succeed, my program would have to be accompanied by some sort of protective tariff system that would defend American owned businesses from overseas monopolies. "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 2:17 PM:

" I suspect that, in the long run, the effect of this policy would be to replace jumbo sized companies like Mondavi with an array of smaller companies whose purchase price would not be overly onerous for hard working descendants.

What you would lose in terms of economies of scale would more than be made up for by the increase in competition. "

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Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 1:32 PM:

" Leonard, read the story in "business" today regarding the vintner. It reinforces my belief that people who learn their trade from an early age by being immersed in it, will be better at it as adults. This guy makes some of the finest local wine, he deserves the family vineyard. Who would go the extra mile to own the best vineyard, if you had to give it to the government upon your demise. Who would work hard for the family business as a kid, if you get nothing for it. The recipient would be more undeserving in my world. "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 12:24 PM:

" Oh, yeah.... I inherited it.

DOH! "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 12:00 PM:

" Sounds good.

I have packing that is going to grab something if I don't get working on it.

Every time I move it is twice as hard as the time before.

Where does all this junk come from? "

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Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 11:51 AM:

" LOL Leonard, yeah me too. The problem is that my grandson is grabbing my face and begging to play his Scooby Doo games on my computer. I don't know how much longer I can hold out. The little dude is RELENTLESS. I'll pick this up later, thanks. "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 11:50 AM:

" My system is, at its core, the antithesis of Marxism. "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 11:50 AM:

" How is it "Marxist"?

In Marxist systems, the means of productions are owned by "the people" operating as a collective entity.

The entire point of my system is to put the means of production in the hands of individual entrepreneurs. "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 11:48 AM:

" Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 11:46 AM:

" Leonard, if everything is being bought up by big money, you will create monopolies, not encourage competition.

Part of the benefit of this system is that it would concentrate power in the hands of individuals, not conglomerates (see my previous post). "

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Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 11:47 AM:

" Once again, that's Marxist. "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 11:47 AM:

" Cog: You do realize that I am making this up as we go along. Its not like I am reading from a playbook or something.

There is no "Lenny's Manifesto".

Still, as far as we've gone, I still think my system would be better than the status quo. Keep raising the objections, however, and we will see where it goes. "

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Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 11:46 AM:

" Leonard, if everything is being bought up by big money, you will create monopolies, not encourage competition. "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 11:45 AM:

" Major corporations would not be allowed to bid on the returns from estates. "

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Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 11:41 AM:

" Leonard, in 2004, Constellation brands paid 1.36 BILLION for Robert Mondavis holdings. I doubt any GROUP of vintners, at the top of their game, have that kind of capital. So in your world, only large corporations could buy out highly successful family business. Is that what you want. Major corporations owning everything? "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 11:41 AM:

" If so much capital had been accumulated by one business that no one could reasonably be expected to purchase it intact, then it would have to be broken up into purchasable units.

Competition is the life blood of capitalism. The break up of monolithic business holdings would inevitably result in increased competition and greater economic health. "

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Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 11:32 AM:

" Leonard, if Mondavi had paid his kids 10 million dollars a year, they couldn't buy him out. "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 11:24 AM:

" If Robert Mondavi's children were really that good at their trade, they would have accumulated enough capital to buy their father's business.


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Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 10:59 AM:

" Leonard, I disagree. I'm a 2nd generation person in my business, as is my sister. Growing up surrounded by a craft or trade gives you an advantage over the newbies. Are you suggesting that you or I could buy a vineyard and be as good of growers as Robert Mondavis children? Now THAT'S absurd. My sister and I are easily in the top 10% of our profession, largely because we were exposed to its workings at an early age. A florists child will grow up to be a better florist in the majority of cases, I have no doubt. "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 10:58 AM:

" Cog: No plan is perfect. You just have to do the best you can.

I do not suggest that my plan would be perfect or "Utopian" (as you so frequently suggest).

What I do say is simply that my plan would be better than the status quo.

Nothing you have said so far has challenged that assumption. "

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Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 10:50 AM:

" So Leonard, in your Utopia, the word "legacy" would be banished from the lexicon under it's current meaning. I might agree with you if we would start with the children of movie stars. But, they would probably all band together to give each others kids all the acting jobs. Therefore, maintaining their legacy. Other businesses could do that too, looking out only for each other, and discriminating against any outsiders. There would be ways around your plan, there always is. "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 10:46 AM:

" There is a name for the economic system in which inherited capital is concentrated in the hands of a ever decreasing circle of oligarchs.

It is called Feudalism and it is where this country is heading if something isn't done to change things. "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 10:44 AM:

" My approach is essentially Capitalist to the core. Businesses would be owned by those who were most able to make them successful as reflected by their own accumulation of resources.

Those who work hard and enjoy good luck will prosper greatly. Those who are either lazy or unlucky will not. The market will decide everyones fate. "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 10:41 AM:

" The entrepreneurial spirit is what made America great while the landed aristocracy of Europe, with their inherited estates and titles, moldered in the economic doldrums. "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 10:40 AM:

" Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 10:29 AM:

"in your world, every time a successful business owner died, instead of their children inheriting the business, it would be liquidated or sold to the highest bidder.

The assumption that a florists son will necessarily be a good florist is absurd. If, at the time of their parents death, the children's success had earned them enough capital to purchase the business, they would be free to do so.

Otherwise, the business would go to an individual who had, through their own drive and success, accumulated enough capital to purchase it. "

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Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 10:40 AM:

" True that Leonard. The thing is that most of their family tragedies since the 60s have been self-inflicted. "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 10:36 AM:

" Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 10:33 AM:

" Since the Kennedys have only shown a propensity to glom off of Joe Sr.s estate. How would that group of ethically challenged alcoholics ever hope to make a living?

The fortunes of some would inevitably suffer but most would benefit. The Kennedy family is probably used to tragedies by now.

:) "

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Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 10:33 AM:

" Since the Kennedys have only shown a propensity to glom off of Joe Sr.s estate. How would that group of ethically challenged alcoholics ever hope to make a living? "

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Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 10:29 AM:

" So in your world, every time a successful business owner died, instead of their children inheriting the business, it would be liquidated or sold to the highest bidder. Do you really think our nation could maintain our business status with a policy like that? That would be economic suicide. "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 10:28 AM:

" No matter how far you cut programs, the Government will always have to fund itself through one form of tax or another.

Inheritance taxes are the ONLY taxes that do not redistribute the wealth of living individuals. As such they are much less socialistic than any of the existing tax programs. "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 10:23 AM:

" Cog: You have heard the old saying that "you can't take it with you"?

Dead people can't own anything. An inheritance tax appropriates money from an estate, not a person. "

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Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 10:18 AM:

" Leonard, I'm assuming you're referring to your 100% inheritance tax, if it's another tax I'm forgetting, please refresh me. Because I'm always in favor of tax cuts. "

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Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 10:15 AM:

" O.K. Leonard, in both cases I believe in letting the person who EARNED the money decide what to do with it. You believe, along with Obama, that it's fair to take it away from the person who earned it, in order to give it away to someone who didn't. That's Marxist. "

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Leonard wrote on May 5, 2008 5:01 AM:

" Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 12:02 AM:
" What bugs me about Obama is when choosing between tax policies that would raise federal revenues while giving tax cuts, and raising taxes in areas where it has been proven to lower revenue, he would choose to punish people in the name of "fairness".

How is this different than your position on my plan to reduce income taxes across the board while encouraging entrepreneurship?

I believe one of your specific objections to this plan was that it was not fair

:) "

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Cogito wrote on May 5, 2008 12:02 AM:

" What bugs me about Obama is when choosing between tax policies that would raise federal revenues while giving tax cuts, and raising taxes in areas where it has been proven to lower revenue, he would choose to punish people in the name of "fairness". This shows him to be either economically ignorant, or vindictive. The scarier one would be vindictiveness. He's a millionaire who hates the rich? Or only those who are wealthier than him. "

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Giovanina wrote on May 4, 2008 11:30 PM:

" Obama will lose. He may stand for Socialist-Marxist values but not American values. So sorry Socialists, you will not win. You will not get your revolution. Muahaha "

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Lodian wrote on May 4, 2008 11:22 PM:

" Eugene wrote on May 4, 2008 7:08 PM:
"Better than 95% of American are against gay marriage."

Where did you get this figure?
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Lodian wrote on May 4, 2008 11:21 PM:

" Eugene wrote on May 4, 2008 7:08 PM:
"I hate to be the bearer of bad news about Obama. But he will sign the Gay Marriage Act of 2009 if he gets elected."

Why should I consider this bad news?

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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 8:33 PM:

" voter wrote on May 4, 2008 8:15 PM:
" Eugene, were you ever a Navy SEAL? "

Excuse me, but Euu, a better question for you might be have you even been with a Navy Seal?? "

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Leonard wrote on May 4, 2008 8:26 PM:

" Chuckle.... I too smell the Dreaded Rear.

It looks like he is on a regular rampage tonight. "

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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 8:25 PM:

" Ohhh, Cogito, I am so about being spoiled. "

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Cogito wrote on May 4, 2008 8:18 PM:

" Yeah, I take exception to the "spoiled" remark too. I may be childish, but, much to my chagrin, I'm not spoiled. The difference between a man and a savings bond? Savings bonds mature. "

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voter wrote on May 4, 2008 8:15 PM:

" Eugene, were you ever a Navy SEAL? "

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nextel wrote on May 4, 2008 8:13 PM:

" I'll bet my rapture fast track that Eugene is our multiple personality friend Brian, that took up shop on his ol ladys lap top. "

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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 8:11 PM:

" " I can see this blogg is full of a bunch of spoiled children"

I love it. "

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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 8:09 PM:

" Cogito, if I said purple would that send him to another site???

fuchsia...

egg shell...

turquoise...

poof... did it work???

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voter wrote on May 4, 2008 8:09 PM:

" Cogito, Mom always liked you best. "

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voter wrote on May 4, 2008 8:07 PM:

" Stop. I can't stop laughing! "

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Cogito wrote on May 4, 2008 8:07 PM:

" I have to go now, mom said I have to go to bed at 8:00. Toodles. "

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Cogito wrote on May 4, 2008 8:05 PM:

" Eugene, oh yeah! Well neener! 10 for 10 :-p "

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Cogito wrote on May 4, 2008 8:03 PM:

" Sam, you said "pink" and it reminded him of another website. 9 for 9 "

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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 8:02 PM:

" OMG, I lost Brian. Anybody see him??? "

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Eugene wrote on May 4, 2008 8:01 PM:

" I can see this blogg is full of a bunch of spoiled children.

I left my mark. At least I contributed
to the subject matter.

Have a nice life Lodians. "

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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 8:00 PM:

" Euu, I love prayers for me. Thank you. "

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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 8:00 PM:

" Cogito, I am working on getting some glasses.

But I can see pink... OMG, that is one amazing color. "

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Eugene wrote on May 4, 2008 7:58 PM:

" Sam, then you are ok with Obama repealling the Defense of Marriage Act?

I'll pray for you.

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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 7:58 PM:

" Voter, you are never out of line. "

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Cogito wrote on May 4, 2008 7:57 PM:

" Eugene, I happen to know Sam, and he's blind too. 8 for 8. "

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voter wrote on May 4, 2008 7:56 PM:

" I'd love to hear the source of your statistics, Eugene. "

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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 7:56 PM:

" Cogito, you go guy. A "Cheese Burger in Paradise" is always well appreciated. "

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voter wrote on May 4, 2008 7:56 PM:

" Eugene, this is a community atmosphere--a big mix of opinions, but no one too constipated regarding the "rules". "

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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 7:54 PM:

" Euu, for YOUR record I am a black gay man. "

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Eugene wrote on May 4, 2008 7:53 PM:

" voter wrote on May 4, 2008 7:48 PM:

" Oh great, a gay basher. "

Voter, you're out of line. 95% of Americans are against gay marriage.
The subject matter is "Will Obama Promote American Values?

95% of Americans don't believe he would be promoting American Values by legalizing gay marriage. Call it gay bashing if you must. "

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Cogito wrote on May 4, 2008 7:53 PM:

" Sam, I consider a good cheeseburger is a steer reaching its full potential. Eugene, Now I'm 7 for 7. "

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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 7:51 PM:

" Cogito wrote on May 4, 2008 7:23 PM:" Sam, I have always been a big fan of horse racing. But after yesterday"

I love horses. When we make them believe to run themselves to death is the thing to do, I do not want any part of it. But heck, I am a vegan. Animals are here for us to cherish, not to abuse.
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Cogito wrote on May 4, 2008 7:51 PM:

" Eugene, now I'm 6 for 6. I can do this all night. "

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Eugene wrote on May 4, 2008 7:48 PM:

" Some of you are 5 for 5 in violating the comment rules. "

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voter wrote on May 4, 2008 7:48 PM:

" Oh great, a gay basher. "

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Eugene wrote on May 4, 2008 7:46 PM:

" Of course this part was conveniently left out by Sam.

Obama backs the "complete repeal" of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), a law passed in 1996 that gives states the option of not recognizing another state's "gay marriages." It also prohibits the federal government from recognizing "gay marriage." Homosexual activists long have viewed it as a significant legal barrier to nationwide legalization of "gay marriage."


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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 7:39 PM:

" voter, I really want the name of the article. It was a great blog. The "navy seal" comment was over the top.


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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 7:38 PM:

" voter, wierd comments from Eugene.. I agree.

I too suspect a troll. Eu, are you a troll??? "

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voter wrote on May 4, 2008 7:37 PM:

" Or maybe, just maybe, it is the Navy SEAL . . . "

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voter wrote on May 4, 2008 7:36 PM:

" I'll bet our new friend Eugene gets paid to troll the internet and plant anti Obama invective. I came across this just last week on another web site and it surprised me. "

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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 7:34 PM:

" Eu, come out come out... we know who you are. "

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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 7:33 PM:

" nextel, amen... and we know Eu is a "sir". "

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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 7:32 PM:

" Eu, you "stumbled upon this blog"?

Yeah, I believe that. "

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nextel wrote on May 4, 2008 7:31 PM:

" Eugene, ya frickin kidding us? Baptist Press with a Christian perspective is your source? He supports Civil Union rights, not Gay Marriage. Plenty of real issues about Obama that can be debated, this is not one of them Sir. "

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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 7:30 PM:

" so Eu, where is your proof that Obama wants gay marriage???

He is ok wth civil unions within the states but says gay marriage as a federal law is not something he would support.


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voter wrote on May 4, 2008 7:28 PM:

" . . . sorry! site. "

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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 7:28 PM:

" Eugene, PALLEZ. this blog has 714 bogs and you have issues about being on topic.


You are too funny. "

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voter wrote on May 4, 2008 7:28 PM:

" Eugene, you've posted a link to a heavily biased sight. But even then, that article says nothing about Obama signing a Gay Marriage Act of 2009--something that doesn't even exist. Are you a paid blogger for the religious right? "

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Eugene wrote on May 4, 2008 7:24 PM:

" Sam, I'm new here. Aren't comments unrelated to the story not allowed?

I stumbled upon this newspaper searching
the web. Does this blogg not have a moderator? I want to talk about Obama.
Unless you are contributing it should be decent of you to take your unrelated conversation elsewhere. "

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Cogito wrote on May 4, 2008 7:23 PM:

" Sam, I have always been a big fan of horse racing. But after yesterday, I'm beginning to change my mind. If one more horse has to be put down in the next two triple crown races, there will be HUGE fallout. "

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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 7:21 PM:

" weird.. LNS said my post could not be posted... so they posted it twice.


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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 7:20 PM:

" Cogito, I swear the death of the horse was horrific to me.

I personally, hate horse racing. But I was reminded several times today about Hillary's prediction. Sorry if you saw it as sick... actualy I did too... but that was her prediction. "

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Cogito wrote on May 4, 2008 7:20 PM:

" Eugene, count me in as one of those people against gay marriage. But, I'm pro civil union. I think the reason many politicians are pro gay marriage, even though it is unpopular, is that most of them are Lawyers. If they lose an election, they will be forced to go back to work. Gay marriage opens up a completely new opportunity for Lawyers to make money, it's called gay divorce. Many gay couples are very wealthy........mo money, mo money, mo money! "

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Eugene wrote on May 4, 2008 7:19 PM:

" http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=27778

I don't know where I heard it first.
I'll post this one. It's revealing. "

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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 7:19 PM:

" cogito, I swear the death of the horse was horrific to me. I, personally, hate horse racing. But I was reminded several times today about Hillary's prediction. Sorry if ya saw it as sick... I did too... but that was her prediction. "

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sam wrote on May 4, 2008 7:16 PM:

" Eugene, he said he was AGAINST gay marriage. I saw the speech. "

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voter wrote on May 4, 2008 7:11 PM:

" Cogito, your comments make me chuckle. "