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AmyJo Mattheis, pastor of Way of Compassion Community, is planning a peace party for next weekend in downtown Stockton. (News-Sentinel file photo)
Way of Christ Community changes name
By Ross Farrow
News-Sentinel Staff Writer
Updated: Saturday, April 12, 2008 7:12 AM PDTNews-Sentinel Staff Writer
The unorthodox ministry Way of Life Community has evolved in its three years of existence.
Evolved enough to change its name to Way of Compassion Community and planning a peace party for next weekend in downtown Stockton.
Pastor AmyJo Mattheis founded an independent Lutheran congregation that she describes as progressive three years ago. Mattheis embraces gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgenders, maintains that God is neither male nor female and that everyone has reached salvation, simply by being born.
Mattheis also disdains traditional Christian terminology. For example, it's a "community," not a church, and Sunday services are "gatherings."
The name of the "community" came after a vote at a February gathering.
"About a year ago, some people said Way of Christ doesn't accurately say who we are," Mattheis said. "It's an ongoing maturation," Mattheis said.
The name was changed because the former name encourages the belief that Jesus' intention was to be everyone's personal savior, Mattheis said.
"We don't think that was Jesus' main focus," she said. "We have come to our own understanding of Jesus the person who made profound choices in his life for the sake of the worth of all people."
"Compassion," which replaces Christ in the organization's name, is a courageous word, Mattheis said.
Peace Party 2008
When: April 19, 11:30 a.m. to 2 p.m.
Where: DeCarli Waterfront Square in downtown Stockton, west of El Dorado Street.
Activities: Several Stockton-area poets, a band from Stockton and a musician from San Francisco. There will be a large peace wall, where people may create their own vision for peace, whether it be a picture or words.
Children can make peace lanterns and have their faces painted, massages will be available to relieve stress and vendors will talk about people taking good care of themselves. There will be peace T-shirts for sale, including international T-shirts, and free snacks.
Source: AmyJo Mattheis
Way of Compassion Community
Participants gather at 9:30 a.m. each Sunday at Elkhorn School, 10505 N. Davis Road, Stockton. The office is at 310 S. Crescent Ave., Suite B, Lodi. For more information, call 337-5443 or visit www.the-way.info.
Source: Way of Compassion Community
When: April 19, 11:30 a.m. to 2 p.m.
Where: DeCarli Waterfront Square in downtown Stockton, west of El Dorado Street.
Activities: Several Stockton-area poets, a band from Stockton and a musician from San Francisco. There will be a large peace wall, where people may create their own vision for peace, whether it be a picture or words.
Children can make peace lanterns and have their faces painted, massages will be available to relieve stress and vendors will talk about people taking good care of themselves. There will be peace T-shirts for sale, including international T-shirts, and free snacks.
Source: AmyJo Mattheis
Way of Compassion Community
Participants gather at 9:30 a.m. each Sunday at Elkhorn School, 10505 N. Davis Road, Stockton. The office is at 310 S. Crescent Ave., Suite B, Lodi. For more information, call 337-5443 or visit www.the-way.info.
Source: Way of Compassion Community
"It's a lifestyle choice," she said. "It means to look the other in the eye — the enemy, gang banger, poor person, a criminal in jail — and saying, 'I can see you are a worthy person just because you're human.' "
Next weekend, Way of Compassion Community will host Peace Party 2008 in downtown Stockton.
"The intention of this is not to be partisan," Mattheis said. "It's to remind people there is an option to violence or war."
Mattheis grew up in Lodi and is a 1984 Lodi High graduate. Before starting Way of Christ Community, she was a pastor at Zion Lutheran Church in Stockton.
Her father, Robert Mattheis is a retired pastor of St. Paul Lutheran Church in Lodi. He was also bishop of the Sierra Pacific Lutheran Synod, which includes the Lodi area.
Contact reporter Ross Farrow at rossf@lodinews.com.
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Lodian wrote on Apr 24, 2008 5:01 PM:
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"Everyone: We are confident that Lodian has NOT posted as "real_facts" or any variation of that name. I have responded to the real "real facts" directly, saying so. real facts may wish to respond on this blog. Otherwise, we consider this incident closed, and will consider banning anyone who levels further accusations regarding those usernames. Sorry to sound harsh, but we need to move past this issue. Thanks for understanding."
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Lodian wrote on Apr 24, 2008 2:02 PM:
real facts wrote on Apr 24, 2008 10:59 AM:
if i CONTINUE to make right choices, it is impossible to lose my integrity.
lodian, i can see why you reacted that way.
it is entirely possible to lose ones integrity......just look at you and girard. making "bad choices" (and continuing to do so) caused your "integrity flush"
no one makes you do it....you choose to "
Lodian wrote on Apr 24, 2008 9:00 AM:
"because i make right choices, losing my integrity is impossible."
Wow "
real facts wrote on Apr 23, 2008 9:13 PM:
laughing
your whole existence is built on a lie
perversion causes someone to blame others for their failures.
sorry billy. because i make right choices, losing my integrity is impossible. bad news huh ? "
Billy Rubin wrote on Apr 23, 2008 1:04 PM:
Just because you committed integrity suicide doesn't mean anyone else has to follow you over the cliff.
"
real facts wrote on Apr 23, 2008 8:48 AM:
Are rummage sales against the Bible?")>
nope.
i was trying to make a combination of a funny, and an analogy......while attempting to demonstrate the fact they lost thier integrity by abandoning Gods standards.
they gave it away actually "
real facts wrote on Apr 23, 2008 8:45 AM:
your some example of human failure.
based on your latest "push", you can't even commit to it.
flyswatting you is the easiest thing in the world.
see cogito, it's not hard. it just takes a little "committment" "
Billy Rubin wrote on Apr 22, 2008 10:31 PM:
No, I think I'll pass on your generous offer to "bet". What do I win? Ha. Nothing.
Sorry, Reverend.
YOU bet.
YOU lost.
YOU lied. "
dogbark wrote on Apr 22, 2008 10:28 PM:
Are rummage sales against the Bible?
You know, folks often like my posts because I'll bark up any tree;
with you I am sure they guffaw and knee slap over what you think is serious Christian rhetoric. "
dogbark wrote on Apr 22, 2008 10:22 PM:
real facts wrote on Apr 22, 2008 9:06 PM:
they haven't yet.
becoming a broken record because of desperation isn't an accompishment in life billy, no matter how many men have told you.
i have a deal for you.
what if it was a typo, and the LNS vindicates me, will YOU leave once and for all ???
watch billy squirm his way out of that one, and not agree to it.
whats the matter billy, are you afraid of the truth ???
"
Billy Rubin wrote on Apr 22, 2008 7:32 PM:
"lodian: i have a sweet deal for you...
if the LNS confirms 100% for sure that you are not "real_facts", i will leave these blogs FOREVER."
We are ready and await you to, "...honor [your] word" as you said, making ready to climb on your cross again.
Jeez, this is the longest exit scene EVER. It's taken you DAYS to "honor your word". So honor it already.
"The Passion of the Christ" has already been filmed and you weren't the star. "
real facts wrote on Apr 22, 2008 7:17 PM:
" Billy: doesn't the saying go, " A man is only as good as his word"? Personally, I doubt he is capable of honoring his own promise").
picking a known Christ hater over me NY, good career choice. at least your consistent in your choices.
if it is apparent i made a mistake, i will honor my word. that alone will differentiate me between just about everyone else in here.
i watch as no one even apologized for PURPOSEFULLY lying about me. the funny thing about you NY, is that you approve of-that.....no-wonder-you-want-me-to-leave-also.....i-remind-you-of-your-hypocrisy "
Lodian wrote on Apr 22, 2008 5:09 PM:
nylodian wrote on Apr 22, 2008 1:48 PM:
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Billy Rubin wrote on Apr 22, 2008 12:41 PM:
"lodian: i have a sweet deal for you...
if the LNS confirms 100% for sure that you are not "real_facts", i will leave these blogs FOREVER."
Sorry, but did I misread your post below about you liking the truth? A rare treat for you, it appears.
Reverend, your pants are an inferno. Don't you need to do something about it? "
real facts wrote on Apr 22, 2008 10:51 AM:
someone telling the truth, and not worrying about what people think.
EXTREMELY rare these days...
high five "
Metric Time System wrote on Apr 22, 2008 8:18 AM:
Amy Jo, just call your group a service club and don't slap God in the face by your blasphemous use of His name. "
Lodian wrote on Apr 21, 2008 12:47 PM:
Robb wrote on Apr 21, 2008 11:30 AM:
real facts wrote on Apr 21, 2008 11:25 AM:
" The interesting part, that speaks volumes about you... is that my previous post was made as a general statement... You took it as personal").
why wouldn't i ???
you aimed at me specifically, while appearing to be congenial about it.
i respect people that are straight up, not the ones that "pretend" altruism.
here's the real deal about you robb, you have never ONCE came at me for purposes of good. you made snide remarks and you were condescending. YOU came at me first, i just defended myself.....now-if-you-choose-to-back-off-of-that,...that-would-be-a-good-choice-for-you-to-make....otherwise-don't-blame-for-not-being-"friendly"-back-to-you "
Robb wrote on Apr 20, 2008 9:43 PM:
real facts wrote on Apr 20, 2008 9:05 PM:
what person see's a person drowning and has access to a life preserver and STILL lets that person drowned?
the one who says he "knows" a person is drowning (but really isn't), and has no idea where they keep the life preserver in the first place.
why does my heart tell me you don't really know if i am misguided, and that you only portend that i am.
or......you could show me :) "
real facts wrote on Apr 20, 2008 9:00 PM:
I just hope that your 'god', gives you some hope in your otherwise sad existence...
I bid you peace.. ").
rob, you "forgot" to capitalize "God". unless you figure out why that is important, it will be your un-doing, and you won't be able to blame me for it.
your not capitalizing God shows your attitude about it. those small things reveal large issues.
"i bid you peace". sounds good. almost like a halmark card. why is my heart telling me you don't mean it, and you will come at me-again???? "
voter wrote on Apr 20, 2008 4:25 PM:
Robb wrote on Apr 20, 2008 4:21 PM:
I just hope that your 'god', gives you some hope in your otherwise sad existence...
I bid you peace.. "
real facts wrote on Apr 20, 2008 10:09 AM:
It's time churches address the true causes of divorce to preserve family values").
it's obvious i ride nylodian for her hypocritical-ness, but since i play fair in life and actually pick truth over people, i must high five her for this statement.
you are right NY, the divorce rate inside the church walls is a good indicator "we" are not doing something about the sliding definition of relationships that have crept into the church seemingly unchallenged.
it has become the same mentality where there isn't any more committment to working things out, but rather the "ditching"-of-the-problem.....just-like-the-rest-of-the-world "
real facts wrote on Apr 20, 2008 10:03 AM:
" RF, am I making sense by saying;
It is because of God's blessings that humans can self-regulate? ").
you are right on the money.
people that are willfully disobedient to God, or are at minimum "stingy" in obeying God, are mostly so because they are not greatful enough to see that obedience is the least of what we-should do, in regards to what God has done for us.
people think i am such a jerk because i actually care about the authority aspects of God.
everything i do/say in here is BECAUSE of my greatfulness to-HIM "
real facts wrote on Apr 20, 2008 9:58 AM:
" Taking from the Bible, some choose to focus on the vindictiveness, passionate, condemning nature of God - all baser HUMAN emotions, probably reflecting their own ego - while some of us strive for the higher (and more difficult to practice) aspects taught such as compassion, tolerance, patience and "love thy neighbor").
thats sounds good.
but adding up your words over these past several months, you ditch the other aspects that lead to an actual obedient relationship with God by adjusting to HIS authority.
people love the "warm and fuzzy" Jesus....but reject aspects-of-his-authority.....talk-about-"picking-and-choosing" "
Brian wrote on Apr 20, 2008 9:41 AM:
It is because of God's blessings that humans can self-regulate? "
real facts wrote on Apr 20, 2008 8:18 AM:
" Amy does not appear misguided, she seems to accept people as jesus does, she loves them for who they are.").
at first glance maybe.
then, upon further inspection, it becomes obvious amy jo doesn't represent much of ANYTHING Jesus Christ was/is.
her list of "heretical-ness" is longer than my posts.
while her "face value" compassion is commendable, she errors big time on not calling sin, sin......and pointing people in the direction of the "correct" Christ.
only the "correct" Christ can give man salvation, and give man hope and healing from the inside out.
secular humanism can't "clean"-a-person,...because-it-barely-washes-the-"outside-of-man-to-begin-with "
real facts wrote on Apr 20, 2008 8:11 AM:
on one particular table, they had their integrity for sale. at least i thought it was for sale, but they were actually giving it away.......but nobody was "buying it".
becoming a common sight.
more or less a "fire sale" on Gods standards "
real facts wrote on Apr 20, 2008 8:06 AM:
" There are so many scary, radical Christian hate groups in this country alone that I could continue posting all day").
your right, there are TONS of groups and people that misrepresent Christ.
whats sad, is that you "think" that excuses YOU away from a relationship with him.
voter, it is impossible for you (or anyone else) to come up with an excuse that God will accept when you stand before HIM on that day "
Brian wrote on Apr 19, 2008 7:02 PM:
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Brian wrote on Apr 19, 2008 6:43 PM:
Brian wrote on Apr 19, 2008 6:35 PM:
This is an exerpt from a so-called radical Christian site. Sounds good to me. "
Brian wrote on Apr 19, 2008 6:28 PM:
" Brian, you question to nylodian made me curious so I looked up "radical conservative Christian". Google the phrase and many interestingly werd sites come up.
Sam, I'm sure they are. Only in that they are mostly fundamentalists that have no intentions as Radical Islam does to take over the world by the sword. "
Brian wrote on Apr 19, 2008 6:24 PM:
If they are of the Pat Roberts or James Dobson variety I'll be ROTFLMAO. "
Brian wrote on Apr 19, 2008 6:18 PM:
" There are so many scary, radical Christian hate groups in this country alone that I could continue posting all day.
Voter, and I could post all day Radical Islamic Groups who indoctrinate those at a young age to be suicide bombers.
Give me an example of a Radical Christian Group that has any similarities like Hamas, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah?
I doubt you have a case that any of these Radical Christian Groups are a threat to humanity as Radical Islam is. "
sam wrote on Apr 19, 2008 5:29 PM:
voter wrote on Apr 19, 2008 4:52 PM:
voter wrote on Apr 19, 2008 4:51 PM:
voter wrote on Apr 19, 2008 4:41 PM:
voter wrote on Apr 19, 2008 4:21 PM:
nylodian wrote on Apr 19, 2008 4:00 PM:
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Brian wrote on Apr 19, 2008 3:14 PM:
You're sure they are radical conservative Christian groups? Can you confirm this? I don't believe you. "
nylodian wrote on Apr 19, 2008 1:50 PM:
nylodian wrote on Apr 19, 2008 1:49 PM:
nylodian wrote on Apr 19, 2008 1:41 PM:
"We don't think that was Jesus' main focus,"
I believe Christianity was founded on the idea that Christ died for our salvation.
See Brian? It is possible to present an opposing view without insults, name calling, or untrue implications regarding people with differing political philosophies. By the way, there are some radical conservative Christian groups that advocate anarchy because they believe the government has anti-Biblical policies. "
Robb wrote on Apr 19, 2008 12:46 PM:
Brian wrote on Apr 19, 2008 11:57 AM:
" Brian: okay, so how 'bout trying to make a POSITIVE difference instead of resorting to name calling? Don't you think your "truth" would be more convincing without insults?
nylodian, I do try to make a positve difference. However, it only seems fair to hurl back insults at Amy. There is no doubt she is misguided and I am not the only one who takes offense to that.
I'm not going to give her a pass on that.
Perhaps you are alright with her positive misguided difference. I'm not. "
voter wrote on Apr 19, 2008 7:42 AM:
Robb wrote on Apr 19, 2008 7:38 AM:
nylodian wrote on Apr 19, 2008 6:59 AM:
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real facts wrote on Apr 18, 2008 11:36 AM:
probably.
but whats funny, and pertinent to YOU, is "you people" thinking you can say anything about "us" day in and day out, but when we give you the "whats what" back, "we" are always the bad guy.
check it before you wreck it NY. (thats code for don't be a hypocrite)
have a nice day :)
"
real facts wrote on Apr 18, 2008 11:32 AM:
" Here's an idea for the good "Christians" posting here: instead of hiding behind a keyboard to criticize someone who is trying to make a positive difference (whether misguided or not) in the world, why don't YOU do something positive and proactive to contribute to the community that falls in line with YOUR beliefs").
i do, although i don't "trumpet it".
wanna follow me around for awhile so you can see for yourself?
look nylodian, some day you will have to drop your anything goes mentality, and be more "narrow". God has standards NY,,,,and-you-either-live-up-to-them,...or-you-take-a-detour-from-them...(just-like-amy-jo)
"
real facts wrote on Apr 18, 2008 11:28 AM:
Are they abandoning basic Christian doctrine? I'm all in favor of compassion, but that's not the whole story, as they well know").
ding ding ding. thats the sound of the bell being rung for the person that explained what is going on in exacting terms.
you said it straight. it's an abandonment issue. you don't abandon basic biblical history and commands, especially those straight out of the mouth of Christ.
picking people over God. pretty common these days....as-if-it's-a-popularity-contest
i applaude the compassion part, except it is mis-directed compassion, and-therefore-uneffective.....God-determines-whats-"effective" "
real facts wrote on Apr 18, 2008 11:22 AM:
" Thanks "real facts").
no problem. anything i can do to help.
say robb, do you have any countering position about this subject?
love to hear it :) "
real facts wrote on Apr 18, 2008 11:19 AM:
This is exactly what RF does... admit it, you know it... and just because I do not respond to your incongruities, does not mean i "run away" ").
ahhh yeah. when YOU challenge me first with scripture by attempting to use it against me, and i challenge you back to qualify a position YOU asserted, then you refuse...thats called running away from something YOU instigated.
whats "incongruous" about me/amy jo?
though you may not like my bluntness, i tell the truth. amy jo "preaches" secualar humanism. if there wasn't a God with-standards,...that-would-be-acceptable.....but-since-there-is-and-HIS-standards-are-different...it's-not-acceptable...it-falls-short-of-"true-help" "
real facts wrote on Apr 18, 2008 11:08 AM:
I do not understand your comment about all things being rectified in their context. Is not that what you criticize AmyJo for").
what i mean is, given enough time and effort, any man can recify what appears to be contradictions, by reading ALL of the context, and cross referencing passages pertaining to the history of the subject matter.
given that methodology, there isn't ONE thing biblically that i couldn't recify.
there are no contradictions.
anyones you have, i could explain.
as far as amy jo, it's simple. she has taken-a-willfull-detour-on-some-of-the-most-easily-interpreted-passages,...in-favor-of-human-acceptance "
nylodian wrote on Apr 18, 2008 8:47 AM:
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Brian wrote on Apr 18, 2008 8:38 AM:
" Here's an idea for the good "Christians" posting here: instead of hiding behind a keyboard to criticize someone who is trying to make a positive difference (whether misguided or not) in the world, why don't YOU do something positive and proactive to contribute to the community that falls in line with YOUR beliefs?
It's pretty clear Amy's agenda IS SOMEWHAT MISGUIDED. That said, it IS
our obligation to counter her with the truth. Whether we become proactive on a scale as she has or comment on this blogg, we make a difference. "
nylodian wrote on Apr 18, 2008 8:22 AM:
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Jenn H wrote on Apr 17, 2008 10:58 AM:
Brian wrote on Apr 17, 2008 8:05 AM:
Robb wrote on Apr 17, 2008 8:04 AM:
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Brian wrote on Apr 17, 2008 7:30 AM:
Amy, there are many types of gatherings.
You're painting things with a broad brush. I'm obliged to tell you that there is nothing wrong with saying "going to church and attending Sunday service". "
Brian wrote on Apr 17, 2008 7:19 AM:
they will collide and all hell will break lose. There is a very remote chance humans will be here to witness this event.
So, I do want to preserve the remote possibility that one of my descendents
can witness this event.
In other words Amy. Your anarchy approach to life will not guarantee this. "
Brian wrote on Apr 17, 2008 7:09 AM:
That said, then what ever goes around and comes around is only that.
It seems to me she advocates anarchy.
Liberals are such utopians. "
Brian wrote on Apr 17, 2008 7:01 AM:
Had the first beings that appeared on Earth that eventually became human had interpreted life as Amy does, humans would not be here.
"
Brian wrote on Apr 17, 2008 6:56 AM:
She need to read Dr Michael Savage's book "Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder".
I gather that all people are winners and there are no losers. That said, then where's the need for competion?
I'm sure she's offended when she watches sporting events.
Only the strong survive Amy. You're going against the laws of nature by saying everyone is a winner. It is human nature to lose. Only because of these countless losses humans have had
have we learned to strive to win. It is not because we are born that we get salvation. Cont. "
Brian wrote on Apr 17, 2008 6:42 AM:
It costs taxpayers 100 billion dollars a year to clean up the mess of family breakups from divorce. That's a lot of money. She advocates many types of sexual perversions just to keep in good graces with those who have ran astray from the true teachings of God. "
Robb wrote on Apr 15, 2008 4:39 PM:
to think she can look and act all innocent, while teaching others they too can throw Gods authority over their life straight into the trash can.
someday amy jo will pay a heavy price for taking a personal detour....and-teaching-others-they-can-too "
This is exactly what RF does... admit it, you know it... and just because I do not respond to your incongruities, does not mean i "run away" "
oldguy wrote on Apr 15, 2008 11:19 AM:
oldguy wrote on Apr 15, 2008 11:13 AM:
Audi 5000 wrote on Apr 15, 2008 9:16 AM:
real facts wrote on Apr 14, 2008 10:32 PM:
it's re-packaged secular humanism. only God can "fix" a person, because only God can work from the inside-out. secular humanism and the amy jo's of the world work on the outside, while pretending the are going after the soul of man.
that is IMPOSSIBLE without Christ, who calls sin what it is....the ailment that befalls a person, and only he can address that,and-heal-it. without-the-admission-of-sin....God-cannot-make-something-whole.....it-just-"regurgitates"-itself-again-eventually "
real facts wrote on Apr 14, 2008 10:23 PM:
it seems an innocuous leaning.
but actually, it's those kinds of "leanings" that made amy jo take a heretical detour. it is imperative that WE remember one thing.....that God preserved his word, DESPITE man. with that said, and with ZERO examples biblically of God being "female", we must trust his word-on-every-accounting-of-he-he-wants-us-to-know-about-him....for-that-reason,...it-is-important-that-we-remain-faithful-to-the-smallest-of-issues....even-of-God-being-"male"....(you-should-know-i-would-have-had-no-problem-if-God-had-represented-himself-as-a-female) "
real facts wrote on Apr 14, 2008 10:15 PM:
as far as whether God is a male or female, it WOULD be irrelevant EXCEPT for the purposes of being accurate about representing God thru his word. if a person calls God "gender-nuetral" given the male only references of God throughout scripture, what else do they change to fit their agenda? it is critical to remain accurate, to demonstrate accuracy straight across the board on EVERY issue concerning Gods word....con't----> "
real facts wrote on Apr 14, 2008 10:09 PM:
like i said, EVERYONE deserves to be ministered to thru the compassion of Christ, that DEFINETLY includes those who struggle with homosexuality. if amy jo were doing that, i would applaude her, BUT she refuses to call sin, sin. it is within that act, that she is an apostate of the faith. it has NOTHING to (con't)----> "
tosh conn wrote on Apr 14, 2008 9:10 PM:
oldguy wrote on Apr 14, 2008 10:22 AM:
Both these points are really irrelevent to what AmyJo is doing and her beliefs. She has taken a giant step away from mainstream Lutheranism. It is unfortunate she describes her self as such. She is not.
I have known AmyJo since she was a little girl and her father as long. It is sad. Her changing the name of her community from Way of Christ to Way of Compassion seems to me todenyChrist. "
oldguy wrote on Apr 14, 2008 10:15 AM:
notmatterHis "
LodiGirl wrote on Apr 14, 2008 8:44 AM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 14, 2008 8:08 AM:
real facts wrote on Apr 13, 2008 12:20 PM:
sickening actually.
to think she can look and act all innocent, while teaching others they too can throw Gods authority over their life straight into the trash can.
someday amy jo will pay a heavy price for taking a personal detour....and-teaching-others-they-can-too "
real facts wrote on Apr 13, 2008 12:13 PM:
I have no problem with AmyJo's stance on the homosexual community. I can even live with her thought that God is neither male or female").
depends on what her "stance" is toward gays.....does she call homosexual sex sin as per Gods own standards? or does she sweep that definition under the rug in favor of being "popular"?.....the-biblcal-stance-on-homosexual-sex-is-clear....it-is-sin
God has only been referred to in male form. everytime. there has never been one historical reference to God as female, or gender neutral. it only matters, when it becomes a matter of biblical-accuracy "
jlawrenceendicott wrote on Apr 13, 2008 11:34 AM:
oldguy wrote on Apr 12, 2008 6:31 PM:
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