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A former Marine with misgivings about Bush and the bloodshed in Iraq
As an opinion page columnist, I normally get a certain amount of satisfaction if a view I subscribe to turns out correctly.
But in the case of the Iraq War, I take cold comfort in having opposed the conflict since day one when President George Bush first announced his "shock and awe" campaign based on lies and manipulated intelligence.
The war is now five years old. More than 4,000 American men and women have been killed and tens of thousands of our allies and innocent Iraqi citizens are dead.
Unlike others — Hillary Clinton comes to mind — who conveniently pretend that their thinking about the wisdom of the Iraqi conflict has changed or that they were initially mislead, my position is down in black and white on these pages dating back to 2003.
In my first column about the war, I wrote these two sentences: "Bush has put his political future on the line" and "Bush's mission is iffy."
And in my most recent on Veteran's Day 2007, in reference to the suicide rate of 17 per 100,000 troops, I said: "The thought that a young man or woman could enlist and fight for his country in the Middle East, only to die at his own hand, is another ugly chapter in an increasingly senseless war."
Escaping thoughts of the endless war is impossible.
Last Sunday, during the White House Easter egg roll, I watched George and Laura, mother Barbara and daughter Jenna (who with her sister Barbara could have volunteered if indeed the Bush family thinks the war is such a patriotic venture) happily celebrating the most joyous day on the Christian calendar.
As the president frolicked with a 6-foot-tall Easter bunny, roadside bombs and rocket attacks killed four U.S. service men and 61 Iraqis.
The nation received the assurances of Vice-President Dick Cheney and press secretary Dana Perino, unpersuasively, that the president grieves for every lost soul.
How did our soldiers spend Easter? No green lawns for them to bask in the warm sunshine, no hand shaking with Dallas Cowboy great Troy Aikman and no platitudes from the Bush family.
But I'm sure they prayed hard to get home safely and rejoin their families.
In war, though, things don't always work out.
Earlier this week, I received an e-mail from Sgt. Peter Macdonald, U.S. Marine Corps, who served in Vietnam.
In his message's subject line, Macdonald wrote: "One Life; Bush Will Take It"
Here are excerpts; readers interested in the entire mail can contact me and I will forward it:
"I have but one life to give to my country, Bush will take it. Is this not the truth that our president has killed over 4,000 U.S. military to create a legacy for himself? Bush uses our U.S. military's lives as currency to buy his way into history. We the people elect these criminals and trust them with our country's future.
"I have violated no laws and I am not an angry person. I believe so much in the United States. I will stand up as a U.S. Marine and speak the truth openly and without fear even though the truth does not matter any more. We all must correct the wrongs in government no matter what the personal costs are."
Macdonald's reference to the criminals we elect is unsettling. As November draws nearer, our presidential choices are among three who have little credibility on the war — or anything else for that matter.
They are Clinton who voted for the Iraq war, Barack Obama who unconvincingly promises to end it, and John McCain who pledges to carry on until "victory" — whatever that means — is achieved.
If, as I wrote, Bush gambled his political future on Iraq in 2003, the verdict is in. He lost. History will remember Bush as a bigger warmonger than Lyndon Johnson.
But the far bigger losers are the families of the dead as well as the rest of Americans like Macdonald who because of the Iraq War will pay for decades emotionally and financially.
Joe Guzzardi did not vote for George W. Bush in either 2000 or 2004. Reach him at guzzjoe@yahoo.com.

Reader Feedback
Lodian wrote on Apr 11, 2008 11:03 PM:
"I can't expect much more from you libs than to want to end a discussion with
condescending remark."
This is from a guy that cusses people out and tells them to go "jerk off" as part of his bashing routine. Give it up, Brian.
"
Brian wrote on Apr 11, 2008 10:32 PM:
Regarding your post.
Actually I do find this particular blogg
full of much what I hear coming out of the majority of liberals mouths on other bloggs. I've been on bloggs that are mostly conservative and I have good exchanges that are thought provoking.
I can always tell when a liberal trys to
break the harmony. You're a good example of what the average liberal does when he's challenged by a thought provoking conservative. "
Brian wrote on Apr 11, 2008 10:25 PM:
" Brian: I do agree with your comment "feeble minds think alike"
And they listen to Talk Radio. :) "
Please explain to me all the intellectuals as guests on conservative talk radio. I suppose you consider
Victor Davis Hansen, Mark Steyn, Christopher Hitchens, and many other scholars, who won't touch liberal talk radio with a ten foot pole, feeble minds.
I can't expect much more from you libs than to want to end a discussion with
condescending remark. "
Brian wrote on Apr 11, 2008 10:19 PM:
Your source for many of your talking points are liberal based.
Many other prominent politicians haven't endorsed anyone either for pres. "
Brian wrote on Apr 11, 2008 10:14 PM:
" Brian said "Sam, you really shouldn't support the lies that the libs want everyone to perpetuate"
Brian, you crack me up. My "lib" source is Colin Powell. I recorded the interview. He said "he likes Obama." (I never said he endorsed him). He also said he is NOT endorsing McCain. He said he likes all 3.
One would think if McCain is so hot he would have endorsed him by now, as he is a republican. Wonder why he has not?? Hmmm. "
Of course Powell is not a liberal. "
OTH wrote on Apr 11, 2008 8:18 PM:
Either way after last nights little tirade I would think he would be ashamed to be here. Maybe the folks here in Lodi called him and said more, more.
If these blogs are all that dumb and stupid Brian, why are you here? You know why as well as I do. You want to be big dog. But you get on the major blogs and they are going to kick your ass. IMHO "
OTH wrote on Apr 11, 2008 8:09 PM:
Can you say paranoid? "
sam wrote on Apr 11, 2008 6:46 PM:
Real facts, how do YOU know what his relationship with God is? It is between he and God.
Not trying to pick a fight, actually I do not even want a response, but I feel that is between he and God.
"
sam wrote on Apr 11, 2008 6:33 PM:
Nice blog, rf. "
real facts wrote on Apr 11, 2008 5:24 PM:
before men, you are probably right. it's hard to find people who don't hold things against you for the rest of your life.
but ivan, tell girard he can get his back before GOD (should he do a 180). God is in the business of restoring integrity.
virginity is a different issue. you only get one shot at that (lol) "
girard74 wrote on Apr 11, 2008 11:58 AM:
Oh, you've missed some whoppers here for certain. This one is light and 'cheerful' compared to one a few weeks ago. "
sam wrote on Apr 11, 2008 9:50 AM:
Brian, you crack me up. My "lib" source is Colin Powell. I recorded the interview. He said "he likes Obama." (I never said he endorsed him). He also said he is NOT endorsing McCain. He said he likes all 3.
One would think if McCain is so hot he would have endorsed him by now, as he is a republican. Wonder why he has not?? Hmmm. "
jnd123 wrote on Apr 11, 2008 8:32 AM:
girard74 wrote on Apr 11, 2008 8:12 AM:
If so, then I do apologize. "
Ivan dixon wrote on Apr 11, 2008 7:59 AM:
Once you lose it, you can't get it back. "
nylodian wrote on Apr 11, 2008 7:17 AM:
And they listen to Talk Radio. :) "
nylodian wrote on Apr 11, 2008 7:11 AM:
AGAIN: Hillary did NOT start the madrassas rumor, it was put out there by FOX News in January 2007 after they quoted an article which had no sources or credibility. Then, again in January 2007, FOX blamed Hillary for the original article, a claim without any merit and which has been discredited.
thebostonchannel.com/politics/10836367/detail.html
mediamatters.org/items/200701000003
"
Brian wrote on Apr 11, 2008 7:09 AM:
" Brian explained his lie as, '...this little inconsistency...'
Is that what a 'lie' is now, a little inconsistency?
Call Hillary - you've got the job!!! "
G74
Her lie is not a little inconsistency.
Me not pointing it out right away is a little inconsistency on my part. Is it you're intention to run with this too? "
Brian wrote on Apr 11, 2008 7:05 AM:
Have you looked at the Iraqi Persective Project?
We really need to put some of these libs in their place. "
girard74 wrote on Apr 11, 2008 7:04 AM:
Is that what a 'lie' is now, a little inconsistency?
Call Hillary - you've got the job!!! "
Brian wrote on Apr 11, 2008 7:02 AM:
Is it your intention to run with this little inconsistency like you have on other occasions with not only me as a way to not address the real issues?
I'm surprised a man of your (supposed)
integrity would want to get off on such a wild tangent.
"
girard74 wrote on Apr 11, 2008 6:55 AM:
If so, Hillary Clinton needs a new 'Integrity Czar' for her campaign. The only qualification for the job is that he/she have no compunction against lying. I’ve got a few candidates in mind. "
Brian wrote on Apr 11, 2008 6:54 AM:
You all want to sidestep the whole issue of why the libs want to spread lies about the Iraq war in the first place. At least I had the integrity to admit what I did. You sure won't here any libs admitting they spread lies.
The MSM and libs thrive on misinformation and lies about the Iraq war and the Republicans. You all who support liberal ideology should be embarrassed.
Have a niced day :) "
Brian wrote on Apr 11, 2008 6:45 AM:
" The Dreaded Rear Admiral wrote on Apr 9, 2008 9:31 PM:
Leonard, In as much as you weren't aware
that Obama attended madrassas in Indonesia
THEN, HE CONTINUED WITH
The Dreaded Rear Admiral wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:11 AM:
Actually, Hillary spread the lie around about Obama attending madrassas.
Brian, before you go calling Sam a liar, perhaps you would like to explain which of your above posts was a purposeful, knowing lie.
Before I do anything perhaps you could explain to me why you didn't pick it up in the firstplace? "
voter wrote on Apr 11, 2008 6:32 AM:
Leonard, I called Brian on that madrassa lie yesterday and he admitted it in his 5:38 pm post. He has no integrity. "
Leonard wrote on Apr 11, 2008 4:41 AM:
Leonard, In as much as you weren't aware
that Obama attended madrassas in Indonesia
THEN, HE CONTINUED WITH
The Dreaded Rear Admiral wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:11 AM:
Actually, Hillary spread the lie around about Obama attending madrassas.
Brian, before you go calling Sam a liar, perhaps you would like to explain which of your above posts was a purposeful, knowing lie.
"
Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:49 PM:
Regarding this post.
Amongst all the gobbly goop, voter did say something reasonable by stating McCain does believe we may need a peactime presence in Iraq for up to a hundred years. This may be the reality.
At least voter thinks (somewhat) rationally amongst all his gobbly goop. "
Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:39 PM:
This is about the Islamic schools in Lodi. "
Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:49 PM:
Colin Powell is far more likely to support McCain than Obama.
An endorsement of Obama would be political suicide for Powell. "
Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:46 PM:
All Powell said was that we can't keep troops at the levels they are at indefinately. So, he agrees with McCain.
McCain has never said we will sustain these numbers indefinately.
Just like the lie that he wants a war with Iraq for 100 years. You are now discerning Powell as not supporting McCain. You really should seek another hobby. Politics is not for you. "
sam wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:36 PM:
Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:36 PM:
" Brian, did you google Colin Powell's interview today?
For what purpose?
"
sam wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:36 PM:
Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:35 PM:
For those of you (maybe zero here) interested in what McCain really meant with his 100 year thing and not what the liberal media wants it to be. here it is.
The liberal media is just falling over themselves with their love for Obama
they will go to extremes to marginalize
McCain. They even have Hillary parrotting what they say. And she knows better. "
sam wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:32 PM:
"
Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:30 PM:
" Brian, google Colin Powell's interview today.
Oh, that's right , I like him and respect him, so he must be a lib. "
Of course I don't think you think he's a lib. You're being a bit sensitive.
I would vote for Colin Powell if he ran for President. I don't like Obama because of his political positions. His color has nothing to do with it.
Actually, you said you were a Republican. You do seem interested in Obama because he is different. Oh, he's different alright. If you only knew how much. "
voter wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:24 PM:
Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:24 PM:
This recession has nothing to do with the War in Iraq. "
Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:20 PM:
" OTH and Sam: I am not surprised that Bush is after Iran because 1) he has convinced himself that Iraq is going well and 2) it's another diversion from the fact we still haven't gotten Bin Laden and 3) more opportunity for his contracting buddies to make $$$ while we slide deeper into debt.
And then there's McCain, who once again, got his Iraqi info screwed up. Geesh.
Another indication of sheer stupidity on this blogg. Feeble minds think alike.
To say that Iran is not a threat
is beyond stupidity. "
Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:17 PM:
" Hey Brian you done with your paper route already?
You say all the Democrats want is to win the election. Duh? Isn't that the purpose of having an election is for someone to win? "
I amazed at the sheer stupidity on these bloggs. OTH admits that Dems aren't interested in winning the war in Iraq. It should be embarrassing for you to admit such a thing.
"
OTH wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:15 PM:
The tv tonight said 1 in 5 have diplomas and some have multiple convictions on their records. The way they react to prison guards, it will be interesting to see how they handle boot camp. "
OTH wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:11 PM:
You say all the Democrats want is to win the election. Duh? Isn't that the purpose of having an election is for someone to win? "
voter wrote on Apr 10, 2008 6:34 PM:
sam wrote on Apr 10, 2008 5:50 PM:
Oh, that's right , I like him and respect him, so he must be a lib. "
girard74 wrote on Apr 10, 2008 5:49 PM:
We haven’t had an ‘inductee’ in quite awhile; are you sure this is what you meant?
Otherwise, the different branches have different standards. You cannot get into the Air Force with anything less than a high school diploma; the Navy will permit a GED, but with other stipulations; the Army will let almost anyone in - while they prefer at least a GED, they'll 'consider' those who do not.
The same is true for criminal records. As the need went up, the standards went down. "
Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 5:44 PM:
Please do listen carefully to the exchange again. You're embarrassing yourself. Focus like a laser beam. "
Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 5:38 PM:
You libs wait in hiding to pouce on people like to to deliberately lie.
I had to admit that I lied about Obama attending madrassas. It was Hillary who started it all. Libs are only interested in one thing, winning this election.
It's a national travesty to see lies about the Iraq war plastered daily on the front of msm newspapers and the truth burried in the back sections. "
OTH wrote on Apr 10, 2008 4:34 PM:
I guess I was under the misconception that there were standards the military had for inductees. Any kind of a police record was an automatic rejection.
I guess we will find out down the road.
As to your comments about the jails being full I would imagine a run for the Canadian Border. "
girard74 wrote on Apr 10, 2008 4:04 PM:
I meant, 'For those who would 'abuse' the training obtained through the military...'
Teach me to not proofread more carefully. "
girard74 wrote on Apr 10, 2008 3:45 PM:
Obviously there are those who will perpetrate their evil by any means possible. For those who would take the training obtained through the military, that should be considered by any criminal judge/jury if/when imposing punishment to the offenders. In an open and free society such as ours, we'll always be faced with this kind of problem. "
voter wrote on Apr 10, 2008 3:15 PM:
nylodian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 3:10 PM:
Leonard: safe travels
Everyone: have a good evening! "
nylodian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 3:07 PM:
nylodian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 3:05 PM:
voter wrote on Apr 10, 2008 3:00 PM:
Brian wrote on Apr 9, 2008 9:31 PM:
" . . .Obama attended madrassas in Indonesia . . ."
Then contradicted himself when he wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:11 AM:
"Actually, Hillary spread the lie around about Obama attending madrassas. "
You've admitted that you knew all along that Obama attending madrassas was a lie--and you've told another one by saying Mr. Clinton started it. Now we know that you are not stupid, just a person with no integrity who can not be trusted. What do you stand to gain from deliberate lying?
"
sam wrote on Apr 10, 2008 2:17 PM:
girard74 wrote on Apr 10, 2008 2:01 PM:
It would have to be at least two years. After 'boot camp' and technical training for even the shortest time necessary would not provide enough time left to fully train these people for their primary responsibility - national defense. "
girard74 wrote on Apr 10, 2008 1:58 PM:
Actually we pay them their salaries that include medical/housing and many other benefits. A good 'GI Bill' should be in place to assist them with their education upon the end of their obligation. If done correctly, many would remain in the military to become the 'middle tier' NCOs or lower field-grade officers. Part of the problem now is that too many in these categories are leaving and that is causing shortages in mid-management leadership. "
sam wrote on Apr 10, 2008 1:55 PM:
Here ya go Brian... McCain and his 100 years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf7HYoh9YMM
"
girard74 wrote on Apr 10, 2008 1:55 PM:
Relief is already in place for those who oppose actual combat – ‘conscientious objector’ status. Even those who volunteer for the military and don't invoke that right upon enlistment are entitled to employ it at any time during their enlistments/appointments.
However, such a designation often comes with a high price. Those who do claim that status are often recipients of 'negative' attention while authorities look the other way. "
sam wrote on Apr 10, 2008 1:50 PM:
I support the draft too, but everyone has to go... men and women. And if they oppose fighting they can work in the inner city, or as a live in volunteer. We pay them in in vouchers for college tuition or cash. Everyone serves the USA for a year or two. "
sam wrote on Apr 10, 2008 1:46 PM:
See, Leonard, we have a history. You have to keep blogging here once you are in Texas.
Are you in NY now??? or Have you crossed the pond to England yet?? "
girard74 wrote on Apr 10, 2008 1:43 PM:
While partly anecdotal, it has long been a part of the judicial system to permit many accused citizens to choose between the military and prison.
Why would it bother anyone if upon release from jail or prison (assuming their 'debts' have been paid) that they are offered enlistment in the military?
My professional military experience has convinced me that military 'justice' is much more severe than its civilian counterpart. Woe to the military man/woman who re-offends while in the military! "
Billy Rubin wrote on Apr 10, 2008 1:03 PM:
No, Brian. Because you jamb your fingers in your ears and clamp your eyes shut to the truth does not make your lies true.
The video, in crystal clarity, shows John McCain standing before an audience, saying with his own voice.
It was shown again last night.
You can try to deny it, but you would only be lying again.
Perhaps you can find it on YouTube.
Or not- if it threatens you. "
OTH wrote on Apr 10, 2008 12:31 PM:
I have heard and read they are taking men when they are released from jail or prison directly to the army.
That bothers me. If we have to stoop to that level we're in trouble. Some may adjust and some may slip through that just don't like authority. However, other than a draft how do we get people to serve? "
OTH wrote on Apr 10, 2008 12:20 PM:
girard74 wrote on Apr 10, 2008 12:11 PM:
I am a big proponent of conscription. While an 'all volunteer' force has worked even up to now, this is not to say that we are as protected as well as we should be.
As we've always been told, 'Freedom is not free,' this is true as far as maintaining that freedom and security. Having our 'new' adults serve two years would serve two purposes: maintaining a viable defense; and providing much-needed discipline and maturity to (largely) spoiled, over-indulged young people in so much need of it. "
Leonard wrote on Apr 10, 2008 11:57 AM:
girard74 wrote on Apr 10, 2008 11:44 AM:
Leonard, my statement was about Clinton and Obama. I didn't offer my opinion about Bush here. You assumed my omission was because I find him credible?
I've stated in the past as far as my opinion about Iraq I am anxiously waiting for the end of Bush's term; I am confident that Powell (and others) will be then in a position to cast a clearer light upon the events leading up to and after the war was initiated. "
Leonard wrote on Apr 10, 2008 10:30 AM:
McCain may be right or he may be wrong on this issue but I fully believe that, in his heart, he believes that he is doing the right thing.
The same cannot be said about many if not most of the current Administration. "
Leonard wrote on Apr 10, 2008 10:28 AM:
" sam, OTH, voter and Leonard, and Girard: Your thoughts on what would happen in our country if (when, with the way we're going) the draft is reinstated?
I support reinstating the Draft. I think it would lead a much more carefully thought out American foreign policy.
"
Leonard wrote on Apr 10, 2008 10:24 AM:
LODIAN, LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER
Chuckle....
Speaking of bumper stickers, I saw one on the back of a livery limo the other day that read as follows:
Liberalism may be a Mental Disorder but Conservatism is a Symptom of Erectile Dysfunction
Or something to that effect. I literally laughed out loud. "
Leonard wrote on Apr 10, 2008 10:20 AM:
This pretty much sums it up tha OHT doesn't even consider the Iraqi Perspective Project
(being a formal military report) a reputable source or a former navy person of any significance.
But didn't you take exactly the same tact when the Navy and the USMC designated WND a hate site? You said flat out that you did not find their designation credible.
Should we then assume that you stood up from your computer, walked into your back yard and lit up your own American flag? "
Leonard wrote on Apr 10, 2008 10:15 AM:
Actually, Hillary spread the lie around about Obama attending madrassas.
Interesting.
So you knowingly posted something that you knew to be untrue as fact?
It all goes back to the issue of credibility. "
Leonard wrote on Apr 10, 2008 10:13 AM:
I'm glad you talked to someone in the military who loved the bush baby. Did you tell her of your supreme status as a Rear Admiral? Did you go on to tell her how you became so annointed?
LOL!!! I had pretty much forgotten about the whole Navy SEAL episode.
If there is ever a greatest hits collection for these blogs, that post ought to be at the very front. "
Leonard wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:49 AM:
This is exactly how I feel about Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama (although as it pertains to him, only just recently have I formed that opinion
Really? You think Obama is a liar but you find Bush to be credible?
How bizarre it must be to be you! "
nylodian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:39 AM:
nylodian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:37 AM:
No doubt people from her campaign fanned it- but that lovely tidbit was put out by your friends at Fox nearly a year ago. "
nylodian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:32 AM:
And then there's McCain, who once again, got his Iraqi info screwed up. Geesh. "
Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:31 AM:
Take care and Godspeed :) "
Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:28 AM:
" Must attend to everything around here with four legs and big saucer eyes looking up at me, or down at me for that matter. LOL! Have a great morning all. "
LODIAN, LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER "
Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:27 AM:
" Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:19 AM:
"Oh, we're changing the subject now because my challenges are too much for you to handle. Typical liberal fashion.
At least you're consistent."
What challenge was that, Brian? All you did was post vulgarity. Will you bring out real facts again, or maybe cuss me out? You pose no challenge.
Lodian,You're embarrassing yourself by being so smug. Go back to your crosswords. "
Lodian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:26 AM:
Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:25 AM:
" OTH wrote, 'Sam I can't watch bush anymore. All I see is a liar and I don't believe a thing he says. He insults peoples intelligence.'
This is exactly how I feel about Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama (although as it pertains to him, only just recently have I formed that opinion).
Thank you G74. It was Hillary who advanced the notion that McCain wanted a war with Iraq for 100 years. Her followers couldn't help but run with this outright lie. "
Lodian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:24 AM:
"Is that the best you can do?"
I have to keep it simple with you or you will start cussing me out again.
"
Lodian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:22 AM:
"Oh, we're changing the subject now because my challenges are too much for you to handle. Typical liberal fashion.
At least you're consistent."
What challenge was that, Brian? All you did was post vulgarity. Will you bring out real facts again, or maybe cuss me out? You pose no challenge.
"
Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:22 AM:
" Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:17 AM:
"OTH, are you going to use matches or a lighter?"
What did you use, Brian?
Is that the best you can do?
Perhaps you can explain to us why Frontline is more of a reputable source
than the Iraqi Perspective Project? "
girard74 wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:21 AM:
This is exactly how I feel about Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama (although as it pertains to him, only just recently have I formed that opinion). "
Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:19 AM:
" It's not surprising that Brian doesn't use his own money/insurance for health care, but insists that others must do so. That's hypocritical to say the very least. But this is exactly what I would expect. Brian's bashes others doing exactly what he does.
Oh, we're changing the subject now because my challenges are too much for you to handle. Typical liberal fashion.
At least you're consistent. "
Lodian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:18 AM:
"OTH, are you going to use matches or a lighter?"
What did you use, Brian?
"
Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:17 AM:
" Sam I can't watch bush anymore. All I see is a liar and I don't believe a thing he says. He insults peoples intelligence. "
OTH, are you going to use matches or a lighter? "
Lodian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:17 AM:
Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:16 AM:
Regarding this post. This pretty much sums it up tha OHT doesn't even consider the Iraqi Perspective Project
(being a formal military report) a reputable source or a former navy person of any significance.
I supect OTH will be pulling down the American flagg and setting it on fire
in the next few moments.
"
Brian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:11 AM:
Bush was not lied to about Iraq. I will not veer from noting when the left spews out their propaganda. And they do it a lot. I'm trying to help those who don't know the difference. Please keep that in mind.
Actually, Hillary spread the lie around about Obama attending madrassas. "
OTH wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:10 AM:
Lodian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:09 AM:
Lodian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:08 AM:
OTH wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:08 AM:
Iran is not bothering us and if the intelligence he is getting is as crappy as it was on Iraq he's liable to do anything.
If he does I would imagine he would have to reinstate the draft as our military in stretched thin now.
I would hope somewhere in the mess we call a government in someone who can convince him not to attack Iran. "
OTH wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:01 AM:
If you didn't listen to talk radio you wouldn't have a thought in your head.
I'm glad you talked to someone in the military who loved the bush baby. Did you tell her of your supreme status as a Rear Admiral? Did you go on to tell her how you became so annointed?
Before you go off on an invective laced tirade, savei there's not much I haven't heard already. "
sam wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:59 AM:
G, you know I am so happy you and your son are recieving excellent medical care. I am just hearing too many horror stories of vets who are not. The suicide rate of Iraq vets is appalling. They obviously are not receiving the care they needed.
So I need to clarify my statement by saying not ALL vets are recieving the care they need. "
Lodian wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:56 AM:
sam wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:51 AM:
Now he wants to go after Iran. He is scary. "
girard74 wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:45 AM:
The interesting thing is that it doesn't take much of a 'rocking' to toss you over; such weakness. "
sam wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:36 AM:
sam wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:36 AM:
You are so right. It is the throughout the world. I am an artist and painted an image when he first became president and named it after GW. It sold like crazy and was put on coasters, dishes, fabrics, etc.
Three years ago I was ordered by my agent to pull the piece or rename it. World wide companies were not only refusing to use the piece because of the name, but were talking about boycotting the artist. "
Leonard wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:24 AM:
And I see and hear just the opposite. So it's all a matter of perspective.
You choose the negativeandIchoosethepositive.
Look at the polls. Hell, look at the Fox News polls.
They will confirm everything that I just said. Its not a matter of perspective, its a matter of cold, simple facts. "