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Bob Johnson responds to John Talbot letter


Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:36 AM PDT

I thought "Karnack the Magnificent" and Johnny Carson had retired long ago. Much to my surprise, "Karnack" is back! This time he is disguised as John Talbot, local Redevelopment Agency critic.

In a recent letter to the LNS, Talbot predicts that "by July the Lodi Redevelopment Agency (LDA) plans to issue $131 million in bonds." This is new to me and I am a voting member of the Redevelopment Agency.

Before any bonds can be issued, a Redevelopment Area has to be created. An area has been proposed but has yet to be voted on. The agency, consisting of City Council members, will consider the adoption of such an area later this year. If and when an area is created, only then can the agency begin to contemplate any financing.

Mr. Talbot states that it is "highly questionable" that an RDA is entitled to keep any incremental tax income generated by redevelopment. If that is true, why have 155 of the 163 cities in the state with a population above 50,000 embraced redevelopment? Why does Mr. Talbot think that so many different municipalities would go through the complicated process of creating an RDA if it produced no benefit for their citizens?

His letter states "while narrowly true, advocates claim that redevelopment agencies do not raise new taxes." Is it a true statement or not? — Or does "narrowly true" equate to being a little pregnant? He suggests that the school district will be "starved" for funding due to tax increment diversion. If that is the case, why did a representative of the school district comment at a council meeting that the school district has no problem with the formation of an RDA?

Mr. Talbot further suggests that you contact Supervisor Ken Vogel to enlist his support in putting an end to this scheme. Mr. Vogel and the Board of Supervisors have no dog in this fight. In fact, former Board Chair Victor Mow chided Lodi last year for not having an RDA similar to those of Stockton, Manteca, Tracy and Ripon.

Finally, you might question the sincerity of Mr. Talbot's concern over redevelopment. According to his employer's Web site, Mr. Talbot works for a "full service investment banking firm" whose product line includes the packaging and issuing of redevelopment bonds. It appears that you are talking out of both sides of your mouth, John.

Bob Johnson
Lodi

Reader Feedback

Brian wrote on Mar 23, 2008 7:41 AM:

" I consider John Talbot a person of great character and I take offense to anyone who feels otherwise. If my dad was alive he wouldn't respond lightly to this charge by Bob Johnson. "

Brian wrote on Mar 23, 2008 7:34 AM:

" danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2008 1:02 PM:

" Bob: “Mr. Talbot works for a "full service investment banking firm" whose product line includes the packaging and issuing of redevelopment bonds. It appears that you are talking out of both sides of your mouth, John.”

Daniel: Mr. Talbot is speaking as a knowledgeable citizen. Often such citizens get their knowledge from the inside.

It appears that you prefer to attack the integrity of the person who delivers the truth, rather than counter with any facts.
- Thank you danielh
My dad worked for John Talbot's dad as a stock broker. "

danielh wrote on Mar 20, 2008 2:45 PM:

" Lodi residents: Only a registered voter from Lodi can run a petition through Lodi to force it onto the ballot. I am an Acampolidian. If someone doesn't step up to the plate and say, "Not in my town," then CC and their lawyers and their development campaign donations will take over. "

danielh wrote on Mar 20, 2008 2:43 PM:

" Hmmmmm. It seems Bob Johnson didn't respond. Only commonsense1 responded in the negative, and commonsense1 didn't put up very much controversy at all. "

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2008 9:17 PM:

" Scrutiny: ... or are you a developer or a lai-er? "

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2008 9:16 PM:

" Scrutiny: Just remember my title, and that I am a constitutional moderate.

I haven't seen your userID before. Do you work at the city?
"

Scrutiny wrote on Mar 19, 2008 8:18 PM:

" daniel.... are you like catatonic or something? Sure seems like it... "

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2008 7:54 PM:

" commonsense1: Make comedy now. That sounds like an offer. I accept. "

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2008 7:53 PM:

" commonsense1: I don't need to attend any RDA public campaign presentations.

All I need is their calendar.

The petition will be to let the voters decide on the redev project, not the city council.

If nobody circulates the petition, people will be complaining after it is too late. "

commonsense1 wrote on Mar 19, 2008 7:45 PM:

" Where are danielh and caveman when the RDA meetings are being discussed? I would bet you can count the RDA opponents on one hand. Danielh circulating an anti-RDA petition is comical. "

s & W 500 wrote on Mar 19, 2008 3:23 PM:

" You go Bob! "

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2008 1:13 PM:

" Scrutiny: you can put me in the corner with Mr. Talbot, but I would appreciate it if you label me as a constitutional moderate. "

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2008 1:09 PM:

" reality: you wrote, "caveman if you have a document that shows the general fund is responsible for an rda default, then you must bring that to the attention of the city staff and the council. "

RESPONSE: At issue is whether the citizens know it or not. I think the city council knows full well who is the surety (insurance agency). "

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2008 1:06 PM:

" Addendum 1:01 PM: This would have included single MOMS. (even if they have no SPECIAL interest, they still are required to pay) "

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2008 1:03 PM:

" caveman: You have some excellent posts. I wish I could figure out who you are. "

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2008 1:03 PM:

" Bob Johnson: You might find out who I am, if I accidentally knock on your front door with a petition to put your redevelopment plan onto the ballot. My date to mobilize has not yet come, but you can be assured that I will be on foot when the date does come, and I will do it right. Also, I saw your Erdu campaign.
"

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2008 1:02 PM:

" Overall, this letter only states opinions. I have challenged you to prove that citizens are happy with their redevelopment projects. All you have to do is look down the street into Stockton. Draw a line at the redevelopment boundary, and look on the other side. Try to tell me that redevelopment has been a benefit to local property values, and the citizens.

Look into their budget. Tell me that they don’t have any red ink, and tell me that they haven’t redirected any funds, or borrowed money from the future.
"

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2008 1:02 PM:

" Bob: “Mr. Talbot works for a "full service investment banking firm" whose product line includes the packaging and issuing of redevelopment bonds. It appears that you are talking out of both sides of your mouth, John.”

Daniel: Mr. Talbot is speaking as a knowledgeable citizen. Often such citizens get their knowledge from the inside.

It appears that you prefer to attack the integrity of the person who delivers the truth, rather than counter with any facts.
"

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2008 1:01 PM:

" Bob: “why did a representative of the school district comment at a council meeting that the school district has no problem with the formation of an RDA?”

Daniel: Impossible to say, without examining who it was, and what might be this person’s relationship with redevelopment government.
"

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2008 1:01 PM:

" Bob: “Why does Mr. Talbot think that so many different municipalities would go through the complicated process of creating an RDA if it produced no benefit for their citizens?”

Daniel: Mr. Johnson, I challenge you to prove that the redevelopment was a benefit to their citizens.


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danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2008 1:01 PM:

" Bob Johnson:

Bob: “why have 155 of the 163 cities in the state with a population above 50,000 embraced redevelopment?”

Daniel: Last year, Sacramento voters rejected a measure to use redevelopment funds to pay for an area that would have been owned by the billionaire Maloof family. This was a scheme to tax the general public, and provide a special interest in return. This would have meant that every single citizen would have been required to pay, no matter what was their interest in the Maloof’s owning a new arena. This would have included single "

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2008 1:00 PM:

" Bob Johnson:

Bob: “why have 155 of the 163 cities in the state with a population above 50,000 embraced redevelopment?”

Daniel: Because their citizens don’t understand redevelopment law, and they did not know that they had to run a petition during a narrow 30-day window in order to force redevelopment onto the ballot. Citizens did not complain until they saw consequences, at which time there was nothing they could do about it.

Of course, the developers, lawyers, and city officials who benefit from each of these redevelopment plans, must embrace them, or lose a lucrative contract.
"

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2008 1:00 PM:

" Bob Johnson:

Bob: "An area has been proposed but has yet to be voted on."

Daniel: Here, you admit that the living-breathing people who are City Council members have proposed an area.

You did not mention that California Redev law provides for the creation of a separate entity composed of different “members” who are appointed by the City Council. Of course, you appoint yourselves.

"

reality wrote on Mar 19, 2008 12:40 PM:

" caveman if you have a document that shows the general fund is responsible for an rda default, then you must bring that to the attention of the city staff and the council. "

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2008 12:09 PM:

" Bob Johnson: I'll respond to your deceptions.

Bob: "Before any bonds can be issued, a Redevelopment Area has to be created."

Daniel: Do you deny that you fully intend to create a Redevelopment Area? If so, why don't you do so? If not, then you can create bonds when you establish the Redevelopment Area.

Deceptive.

Subsequently in your letter, you defend redevelopment, establishing that you want your voters to believe that redevelopment is a good thing.




"

Observer wrote on Mar 19, 2008 11:05 AM:

" I can promise you that Mr. Talbot is far from "liberal-leaning". You got the investment banker part correct. "

caveman wrote on Mar 19, 2008 10:30 AM:

" The real objection that most people have to RDA is that this can all happen without a vote of the people. "

caveman wrote on Mar 19, 2008 10:30 AM:

" RDA, not the city, county or school districts. What essentially happens is the property tax for a parcel in the Redevelopment area is frozen (it already has been frozen in Lodi) and for the duration of the RDA (initially 30 years) it will remain at that level. And, here is the kicker, if the RDA is not able to pay back the debt, then the General Fund is responsible, according to one document that I have read. As far as the county goes, they can stop the RDA under certain conditions. "

caveman wrote on Mar 19, 2008 10:28 AM:

" I’m somewhat surprised, but not shocked at this personal attack by Councilperson Johnson. A man in his position should be more responsible on how he addresses the citizenry. It is typical of Councilperson Johnson to publicly admonish those that do not agree with his position. This exposes a flaw in his personality that voters need to remember when it comes to election time. As for the gist of Mr. Talbot’s article, much of it has truth behind it. The city/RDA has not been forthcoming with the down side of redevelopment. There is debt. The tax increment increase goes to the "

Scrutiny wrote on Mar 19, 2008 9:01 AM:

" This will definately be a heavyweight bout! In one corner the rather rotund Lodi City councilman, in the other the liberal-leaning investment banker!

Ding-ding! Round 1..... "

16925 wrote on Mar 19, 2008 6:55 AM:

" I can believe you are making this a dog fight. "

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