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Bush wants war with Iran
On Aug. 30, 2007, either five or six live nuclear warheads were mounted in combat configuration on the external pylons of a B-52, and "transported" from Minot Air Force Base, N.D., to Barksdale Air Force Base, La.
The fact that five warheads were off-loaded at Barksdale AFB is not in question. The question is whether they on-loaded five warheads, or six, at Minot. If anyone wants to know for sure whether it was five or six, they might have to ask one of the six military service members who are now dead.
There are several implications that point up the chain-of-command, all the way to the president. Removal of nuclear warheads out of the high security area, and transport across the base requires approval from the base commander. Warheads cannot be activated except by entry of secret codes that are under the command of the president. Security protocol forbids co-mingling of nuclear warheads with dummies, but the nuclear warheads were co-mingled anyway, and nuclear security protocol stood down.
At Barksdale AFB, confusion resulted in the nuclear-armed B-52 being left, unguarded, for 10 hours. The worst possible culprit who could have dismounted a nuclear-armed cruise missile from an external pylon would be my trusted government. If it is true that six warheads were mounted onto the aircraft, and I think it is true, the USAF just lost a nuke, and it is armed. Since it is off the books, it can be used in a false flag attack, to create the appearance of being Iranian.
Now, if one considers that a nuke is on the loose, and the Bush Administration wants to have war in Iran, it is plausible that the nuke could be used for a false-flag attack, to display the appearance of being Iranian, to justify war. The Bush Administration is campaigning that Iran is nuclear, and it has eliminated a conflicting source of intelligence in Valerie Plame. In the Strait of Hormuz, we are told that the fast-attack speed boats were Iranian. I think they were American.
Daniel Hutchins
Acampo

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girard74 wrote on Feb 7, 2008 5:46 PM:
I violated my own rule after allowing myself to be baited into what first appeared to be an honest request for discourse. As anyone can tell from recent posts on this page, I was very foolish.
A snake is a snake is a snake. I will not make this mistake a second time. "
girard74 wrote on Feb 7, 2008 4:47 PM:
wtf wrote on Feb 7, 2008 4:24 PM:
Su-u-u-re, Jerry....er, girard74; that's why you bluster so much on all the blogs and post such disagreeable comments to **everyone** while not answering direct questions. All you do, as I've said before, is muddy up the water, criticize and whine.
You're pathetic. "
girard74 wrote on Feb 7, 2008 4:03 PM:
I told you what I thought of the author, hoping you would understand what I think of you; yet you simply couldn't figure that out. Any other moron would have read into my incredibly transparent words - you simply don't have the capacity to 'think.' "
girard74 wrote on Feb 7, 2008 3:54 PM:
And wtf - google away - what you find should not surprise you at all. Like you and Daniel, I have respect for myself and for others. Daniel has proven himself to be a liar and you at the very best disingenuous.
I take nothing either of you write or communicate seriously - to do so would be a complete waste of time. "
danielh wrote on Feb 6, 2008 9:42 PM:
danielh wrote on Feb 6, 2008 9:42 PM:
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wtf wrote on Feb 6, 2008 9:11 PM:
danielh wrote on Feb 6, 2008 6:29 PM:
danielh wrote on Feb 6, 2008 6:27 PM:
You implied that your "faith in the USA&USAF" is sufficient to disprove “a conspiracy so vast for it to be true would completely destroy my faith in the USA&USAF.”
This is not a proof of anything except yourself. "
girard74 wrote on Feb 5, 2008 9:43 PM:
I take issue with the contention that if the plane exploded in flight that the nuke could detonate (again, posted by someone else), as the weapon MUST be armed before the necessary reaction takes place to detonate the missle.
See, there was virtually nothing believable (to me) in the letter. "
girard74 wrote on Feb 5, 2008 9:38 PM:
There has been no credible evidence given that those boats were not Iranian, except the self-serving denials by the Iranians themselves.
As with a missing warhead, for the US to create the incident would require a very large conspiracy that could not be contained and maintained.
Remember, a wise man (Benjamin Franklin) once said, 'For three people to keep a secret, two of them must be dead.' There is truth in that statement. "
girard74 wrote on Feb 5, 2008 9:32 PM:
A false-flag attack, as suggested by the author, would not make sense with a nuclear weapon. Non-nuclear weapons would give much more credibility. For one thing, Iran has the ability to create or easily obtain a conventional weapon and as I stated earlier, it is generally accepted that Iran does not have the capability to create weapons-grade nuclear material.
It would be practically 'national suicide' for the US to start a war with our own nuclear weapon. "
girard74 wrote on Feb 5, 2008 9:26 PM:
My reason for that belief is that to a certain extent I trust that those who are in charge understand just how volatile and dangerous those weapons are. To 'lose' one, with all of the checks and balances that are in place (I know they are as a result of my service in the Air Force), would indicate a conspiracy so incredibly vast that for it to be true would completely destroy my faith in the USA&USAF.(Continued...) "
danielh wrote on Feb 5, 2008 8:40 PM:
I didn't find anything in this thread about whether you concur with a nuclear warhead being lost or not.
People may not be commenting in here yet or not, but I need to know if you deserve any credibility or not.
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girard74 wrote on Feb 5, 2008 7:51 PM:
girard74 wrote on Feb 5, 2008 7:21 PM:
While there are a number of opinions posted here, it would serve you well to review them prior to posting comments or questions that are unnecessarily redundant.
If you find me entertaining, then I suppose I should consider a career or at least a side-job in that field. Otherwise, totally beside the point. "
girard74 wrote on Feb 5, 2008 7:07 PM:
Your asking how I would write it would take much more than the 100-word limit I have. I certainly wasn't going to re-write the letter for the author. It is apparent to me that the author is young (immature), inexperienced and has an ego the size of Montana; not to be taken seriously. "
danielh wrote on Feb 5, 2008 6:18 PM:
Actually in your case, you are entertainment. "
girard74 wrote on Feb 5, 2008 5:24 PM:
danielh wrote on Feb 5, 2008 2:08 PM:
If you had this topic, what would you write about it? "
danielh wrote on Feb 5, 2008 11:56 AM:
wtf wrote on Feb 5, 2008 9:00 AM:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7998
http://news.wired.com/dynamic/stories/C/CYBER_STORM?SITE=WIRE&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-01-31-07-38-13
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girard74 wrote on Feb 5, 2008 8:54 AM:
wtf wrote on Feb 5, 2008 7:53 AM:
Yes, and if other countries in the Middle East followed, it could be catastrophic for America since oil is tied to what's called the petro dollar and is based on U.S. currency.
In the same vein, I saw an interview with Morgan Spurlock on his new movie, "Where in the World is Osama" - Spurlock did "Supersize Me" - he said most people in the ME resent the U.S. due to its foreign policy. What a concept...wonder where I heard that before? "
danielh wrote on Feb 4, 2008 10:35 PM:
danielh wrote on Feb 4, 2008 10:31 PM:
wtf wrote on Feb 4, 2008 6:44 PM:
The Iranian oil bourse is a commodity exchange, like CBOT and will be trading oil contracts; but rather than use U.S. dollars, they plan on using Euros. Oil contracts are currently traded in the U.S. dollar.
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girard74 wrote on Feb 4, 2008 2:47 PM:
danielh wrote on Feb 4, 2008 2:38 PM:
Think again. First, who would be involved in the attack?
Which country would they attack? "
danielh wrote on Feb 4, 2008 2:37 PM:
danielh wrote on Feb 4, 2008 12:02 PM:
wtf wrote on Feb 4, 2008 11:07 AM:
Note that the Iranian bourse is set to open no later than the 11th of this month, very probably clobbering the US dollar as the instrument for purchasing oil.
Couple this with the four internet cables that have recently been cut; is it possibile that this is a prelude to a false flag attack against Israel, which would get a war against Iran truly off and running?
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1202064573279&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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girard74 wrote on Feb 4, 2008 10:37 AM:
I know, it's the media - they're to blame. It couldn't be that Paul is weak and unelectable? We'll see tomorrow (Super Tuesday) how he fares. "
wtf wrote on Feb 3, 2008 6:45 PM:
Ron Paul: 1160 $249k
John McCain: 438 $83k
Mike Huckabee: 126 $37k
Mitt Romney: 126 $24k
Barack Obama: 443 $76k
Hillary Clinton: 154 $41k
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-releases/211/q4-fec-reports-ron-paul-receives-more-military-donations-than-all-other-republicans-combined
He also seemed to be pretty popular at the Superbowl.
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/02/02/ron-paul-is-popular-at-the-super-bowl/ "
tompazo wrote on Feb 3, 2008 2:01 PM:
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Taxpayer & Citizen wrote on Feb 2, 2008 9:00 AM:
wtf wrote on Feb 2, 2008 4:03 AM:
http://www.stateofthenewsmedia.com/2007/narrative_overview_intro.asp?media=1
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wtf wrote on Feb 2, 2008 4:02 AM:
And it seems that those of us who dislike the garbage on the tube aren't alone. The average audience of the three main cable news channels is declining and turning to the internet. People don't like being lied to. "
SportsGuru wrote on Feb 1, 2008 10:38 PM:
Personally, I think Jimmy Hoffa bribed some soldiers who were guarding the nukes with money given to him by DB Cooper, and he's running around with Elvis, Jim Morrison, and apparently a nuke. "
wtf wrote on Feb 1, 2008 7:07 PM:
wtf wrote on Feb 1, 2008 6:56 PM:
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/02/01/africa/ME-GEN-Mideast-Internet-Outages.php
This, in conjunction with the upcoming cyber "wargames" in March, makes me wonder what the neocons are up to.
girard74 - Sorry about that, wasn't making any accusations, just an observation. If I was wrong; I stand corrected.
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danielh wrote on Feb 1, 2008 6:51 PM:
I would expect that different isotopes of fissionable material decay into specific isotopes.
This type of information would distinguish between a uranium bomb, and a plutonium bomb.
I've got to say this: a neutron bomb could be identified definitively by the background radiation signature and extent of damage.
However, the maker of a bomb can only be identified before it detonates.
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danielh wrote on Feb 1, 2008 6:46 PM:
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Boomer wrote on Feb 1, 2008 5:42 PM:
girard74 wrote on Feb 1, 2008 4:31 PM:
I believe it is beyond time for the 'subject' of the letter to be the reason we respond. "
nylodian wrote on Feb 1, 2008 2:40 PM:
nylodian wrote on Feb 1, 2008 2:39 PM:
danielh wrote on Feb 1, 2008 12:00 PM:
danielh wrote on Feb 1, 2008 11:57 AM:
danielh wrote on Feb 1, 2008 11:56 AM:
The signature material is spread over a 10 mile radius and dissipated into the upper atmosphere.
I'm guessing, but I doubt they could get any useful information about the type of warhead, after it detonates. "
wtf wrote on Feb 1, 2008 11:08 AM:
And this post was to his blog:
Third cable break today. I work with Submarine Cable Systems, and generally they are so reliable that you can go years without seeing a single break. Now three in the same area - in three days? Sabotage, beyond all doubt.
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2008/02/01/much-of-the-middle-east-is-internet-free/
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wtf wrote on Feb 1, 2008 11:06 AM:
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wtf wrote on Feb 1, 2008 10:29 AM:
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.asp
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wtf wrote on Feb 1, 2008 10:26 AM:
Nervous employers cut 17,000 jobs in January - the first such reduction in more than four years and a fresh sign that the economy is in danger of stalling...The unemployment rate had shot up in December to 5 percent, from 4.7 percent in November. The magnitude of that increase - something not seen since right after the September 2001 terror attacks - sent off alarm bells.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080201/economy.html
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wtf wrote on Feb 1, 2008 9:35 AM:
http://www.internettrafficreport.com/asia.htm
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wtf wrote on Feb 1, 2008 9:27 AM:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/02/01/internet.outage/?iref=hpmostpop
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nylodian wrote on Feb 1, 2008 5:42 AM:
danielh wrote on Jan 31, 2008 10:26 PM:
danielh wrote on Jan 31, 2008 10:21 PM:
http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/CiaAsset.htm
"CIA asset tied to bin Laden infiltrated FBI before 9/11"
I hope noone finds any of their friends in this reference. "
danielh wrote on Jan 31, 2008 10:18 PM:
danielh wrote on Jan 31, 2008 10:17 PM:
http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/GossRefusesToGive.htm
It details a plan involving Wolfowitz, and the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad to secretly plant a WMD inside Iraq. The operation was kept a secret so that American military personnel would be "surprised" when they "discover" a WMD.
The plan was interdicted in Turkey by Valerie Plame, who uncovered a relationship with her own government.
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danielh wrote on Jan 31, 2008 9:44 PM:
danielh wrote on Jan 31, 2008 9:42 PM:
They hinted that the war game accidently knocked out a computer that was orchestrating the drill. "
wtf wrote on Jan 31, 2008 3:51 PM:
wtf wrote on Jan 31, 2008 3:44 PM:
FCC approves Clear Channel buyout
http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/1034108/
Romney is involved with Bain Capital:
From 1978 to 1984, Mr. Romney was a VP at Bain & Company, Inc., a leading management consulting firm. In 1984, Romney founded Bain Capital, one of the nation's most successful venture capital and investment companies.
http://www.mittromney.com/Learn-About-Mitt/Mittxs_Biography
And here's a bit about the media monopolizer, Clear Channel:
Clear Channel: the Media Mammoth that Stole the Airwaves
http://www.21stcenturyradio.com/articles/02/1125148.html
Guess you can smirk to your heart's content if you own all of the media; yet this seems like a conflict of interest to me. "
voter wrote on Jan 31, 2008 3:39 PM:
wtf wrote on Jan 31, 2008 3:38 PM:
wtf wrote on Jan 31, 2008 3:36 PM:
danielh wrote on Jan 31, 2008 2:37 PM:
Yes, Adolf Hitler attacked his own self to justify greater security measures.
Noone believes me yet that 9/11 was an inside job, and again, we compare to Hitler on that one. America established Homeland Security to combat terrorism, following a spectacular attack, which I claim was American. "
danielh wrote on Jan 31, 2008 2:34 PM:
Both and Germany and in America, they justified the use of torture to combat terrorism.
In the case of actually killing people, in America, they don't need to do it. The SS killed people for political objectives, which are not necessary in order for the Bush Administration to achieve their objectives. "
danielh wrote on Jan 31, 2008 2:29 PM:
I am being realistic and I am living in the present day. I am objectively observing the characteristics of America's government and comparing them to past history.
If we compare the characteristics of Nazi Germany to present-day America, there is a resemblence. Whereas Germany had the SS, they promoted their citizens to spy on their own family members, and they killed prosecuted their own citizens who opposed Hitler, the resemblance is not very different from America.
continued... "
citizen wrote on Jan 31, 2008 1:50 PM:
danielh wrote on Jan 31, 2008 1:01 PM:
Do you see why I asked that? "
danielh wrote on Jan 31, 2008 12:02 PM:
wtf wrote on Jan 31, 2008 11:53 AM:
Trains, Bloggers Are Threats in Drill
http://home.peoplepc.com/psp/newsstory.asp?cat=TopStories&referrer=welcome&id=20080131/47a155d0_3ca6_1552620080131-1504603298
Faulty cable causes web blackout in Middle East
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connected/main.jhtml;jsessionid=4V4BZZYWIQYG3QFIQMFSFGGAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/connected/2008/01/31/dlblackout131.xml
2 Communication Cables in the Mediterranean Are Cut
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/business/worldbusiness/31cable.html?_r=1&ref=business&oref=slogin
With some new "games" coming up in March; pardon my cynicism but I can't help but remember the "games" that were going on 9/11 and 7/7. This might give Jr. the chance to declare martial law and become dictator for life - which he's hinted at numerous times - all the worry over current elections would be moot.
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nylodian wrote on Jan 31, 2008 11:19 AM:
wtf wrote on Jan 31, 2008 10:45 AM:
wtf wrote on Jan 31, 2008 10:42 AM:
As a former Marine, I can tell you you are correct and the order is "Shoot to kill." "
danielh wrote on Jan 31, 2008 9:24 AM:
danielh wrote on Jan 31, 2008 9:23 AM:
One thing is for certain: The American people have not been notified that this incident ocurred.
I hope this is wrong, and by publication, I hope the facts can be investigated. "
nylodian wrote on Jan 31, 2008 8:41 AM:
nylodian wrote on Jan 31, 2008 8:37 AM:
nylodian wrote on Jan 31, 2008 8:31 AM:
danielh wrote on Jan 31, 2008 8:13 AM:
danielh wrote on Jan 31, 2008 8:11 AM:
Military security does not abandon post until a proper relief takes the watch.
I cannot imagine a military service member who is at one moment, standing watch over a nuclear warhead, ready to shoot anyone that violates their guarded area, and at the next moment being ordered to abandon the nuclear warheads, knowing they are real.
There must've been an arguement. "
citizen wrote on Jan 31, 2008 8:06 AM:
danielh wrote on Jan 31, 2008 8:02 AM:
The manufacture of any bomb is no minor task. An extensive paper trail is generated. By nature of the bomb, I am sure there would be a lot of quality assurance and accountability for the fissionable material. "
Ivan Dixon wrote on Jan 31, 2008 6:43 AM:
girard74 wrote on Jan 31, 2008 12:41 AM:
danielh wrote on Jan 30, 2008 11:20 PM:
I do not endorse www.ken-welch.com:
1) does not post its home address;
2) claims its info is revealed in voice recordings played backwards. Otherwise has no footnotes;
3) and if you can believe this, through roommate revenge issues, was involved on the law side of making allegations against the McMartin Preschool sexual abuse case, in Manhattan Beach, CA, in the mid-1980's.
When I found Ken-welch.com, I spent several days trying to authenticate their information, and I never found a good trail.
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wtf wrote on Jan 30, 2008 8:05 PM:
Seeing the shoddy treatment he's received from the MSM and how it's even more blatant, just shows me how low the U.S. has sunk.
That said, I am still voting for Ron Paul because of the principles he stands for; his honesty and integrity. To me, voting my conscience, is having my vote count; so my vote goes to Ron Paul.
God help us when one of the others takes office...we'll need it. "
wtf wrote on Jan 30, 2008 7:34 PM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRv0bP3VQ-g "
wtf wrote on Jan 30, 2008 6:46 PM:
http://www.usvetdsp.com/mcaindiv.htm "
girard74 wrote on Jan 30, 2008 6:39 PM:
wtf wrote on Jan 30, 2008 6:11 PM:
danielh: You said, "wtf: Yes frightening...There are a lot of stories running around the web, which do not appear to have authentic origins."
The Sibel Edmonds story, if that's what you're referencing, was from "The Times" in the UK. I cited from their online paper, "The Times Online" is similar to the "Lodi News Sentinel" we're posting on now; but the LNS also has a physical newspaper. "
girard74 wrote on Jan 30, 2008 5:57 PM:
Inviting Huckabee and Paul was CNN's decision. As such, that network should be held responsible for the shoddy treatment of those two candidates. "
girard74 wrote on Jan 30, 2008 4:44 PM:
wtf wrote on Jan 30, 2008 4:19 PM:
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2006/cr040506.htm
I'm breathlessly waiting for your next half-baked rant. LOL! "
danielh wrote on Jan 30, 2008 4:17 PM:
danielh wrote on Jan 30, 2008 4:11 PM:
Compound her story upon the fact that we no longer have Valerie Plame. There are a lot of stories going around the web, but unfortunately, we don't have Valerie Plame to represent the CIA, anymore, and I don't feel secure in knowing that nuclear proliferation is being countered.
Plame and others were penetrated into Pakistan's physicist A.Q. Khan. Although he developed the bomb for Pakistan, at least the CIA had him so compromised that we knew what was going on.
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wtf wrote on Jan 30, 2008 3:44 PM:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3137695.ece%20
Given what she describes, I'm almost inclined to believe what she says since it's reminiscent of the "October Surprise" and Iran-Contra scandal. Not only that, it's the same players - no surprise.
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girard74 wrote on Jan 30, 2008 3:36 PM:
While many believe that they should be permitted to do so, but with having a madman as leader of Iran, we certainly cannot permit that to happen. 'World's Policeman?' No - simply protecting our lives and our way of life. "
wtf wrote on Jan 30, 2008 3:35 PM:
girard74 wrote on Jan 30, 2008 3:20 PM:
During the eight years prior to his administration we were attacked on numerous occasions by terrorists. Those cowards must have marveled at how easy it was to get away with killing Americans. So they kept killing.
They thought they would get away with 9/11. Thankfully at that time we had a leader who turned the war on terror around - and we have been safe. "
girard74 wrote on Jan 30, 2008 2:45 PM:
How in the world could the US government pull off such a stunt?
Again, the only concern about the phantom missing nuke rests in the minds of the conspiracy nuts; certainly not to be taken seriously. "
girard74 wrote on Jan 30, 2008 2:11 PM:
However, as I stated in a previous discussion, I refuse to engage with anyone who has proved to be either intellectually dishonest or morally void. No amount of baiting will cause me to debate with such people. "
danielh wrote on Jan 30, 2008 2:05 PM:
danielh wrote on Jan 30, 2008 2:03 PM:
Haven't you ever heard of a false flag attack before? Don't you know that Adolf Hitler did one?
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wtf wrote on Jan 30, 2008 1:26 PM:
girard74 wrote on Jan 30, 2008 12:47 PM:
It would take very little investigation to determine who the device actually belonged to. "
girard74 wrote on Jan 30, 2008 12:43 PM:
'In the Strait of Hormuz, we are told that the fast-attack speed boats were Iranian. I "think" they were American.'
Lots of 'thinking' with little or no facts or proof. It is so apparent that there are a few (thankfully) Americans who really believe that our government is the sole member of the axis of evil.
Transporting nukes in the way they were is very serious. It certainly doesn't rise to the level suggested by the conspiracy theorists. "
danielh wrote on Jan 30, 2008 11:48 AM:
Good question about a network of people being involved, communicating, and possibly having their communications intercepted. "
danielh wrote on Jan 30, 2008 11:25 AM:
wtf wrote on Jan 30, 2008 11:10 AM:
Regarding what I said on transporting the weapons: Usually these devices are transported *in* cargo planes; not attached to external pylons. I think we're both saying basically the same thing. "
danielh wrote on Jan 30, 2008 10:26 AM:
steve wrote on Jan 30, 2008 9:28 AM:
danielh wrote on Jan 30, 2008 9:22 AM:
Instead, the warheads were "ready to rip." "
wtf wrote on Jan 30, 2008 8:54 AM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 30, 2008 8:22 AM:
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