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50 guns, 2,000 rounds stolen
Thieves target U-Haul storage unit in Lodi
News-Sentinel Staff Writer
When Kenneth Warren moved to San Joaquin County to take care of his elderly parents, he wanted to make sure his gun collection was safe.
He kept about 50 guns and as much as 2,000 rounds of ammunition in a double-walled, fireproof safe that, when empty, weighed 1,300 pounds. He moved it into a climate-controlled metal and concrete storage unit at U-Haul in Lodi. And he even got a second-floor storage unit for added security.
But on Dec. 31, thieves managed to get into the gated 450 N. Cherokee Lane storage business. They made it past a locked door, up the stairs, down a hallway and around a corner. And then they broke the lock and managed to drag the full safe back out the way they came.
"I had it in the biggest, most secure safe the company makes," Warren said Monday at the door of his now-empty storage unit. "I thought I had done everything short of putting them in Fort Knox."
Now, about 50 guns are somewhere on the streets. A few are antique rifles from his grandfathers, and some are .45-caliber handguns in mint condition. It's a collection of about half rifles and half handguns, and Warren knows personally that nearly all of them are more than capable of firing accurately.
Hundreds of rounds of ammunition — some of which is no longer made because it has been outlawed because it can penetrate body armor — is also on the loose. As if that's not enough, various knives were also in the safe.

The collection, which Warren had spent his life building as an investment for retirement, is valued at more than $70,000. He didn't have insurance because he'd spent thousands of dollars to protect the collection and thought it was secure.
The theft sickens Warren because he lost a lifetime of collecting, but he's even more concerned that his guns might wind up in the hands of criminals who could use them for harm.
Warren is still going through his records — each gun was obtained legally and was registered to him — and Lodi police are still logging each gun as "stolen" in a nationwide system that tracks firearms.
Police are still investigating and are hoping a hand print could help the case. But, there was no video surveillance, and so far they have not identified any suspects, said Officer Dale Eubanks, who tracked down and interviewed every person who entered a key-coded gate at the storage center.
Warren, who spent years in the Navy before going into construction, never married or had children, so he spent his spare money on his gun collection.
"As a single guy, I could either drink and gamble or I could buy stuff," he said.

It started with a few antiques passed down from Warren's grandfathers and a great-grandfather, including guns and some pocket watches.
Over the years, Warren added to the collection. Many of the guns were limited editions, with gold plating and fine detail. Some were pictured in gun collector magazines touting that only a handful had ever been made.
When Warren lived in the Grass Valley area 15 years ago, he kept the whole collection in a safe in his home. He'd show the collection to a few trusted buddies, always making sure to lock the safe.
Then he moved to Stockton and searched for the most secure storage unit.
Warren had to get a crane to move the safe, which weighed roughly 1,800 pounds when full.
For the past 10 years, Warren said, he has paid his storage rent on time each month in cash. He prefers to use cash because he never got into credit cards and computers.
Now he wonders if the cash payments drew unwanted attention, along with his gold bracelets, necklace, rings and large belt buckle. He's a wiry man with sideburns and a goatee, and he walks quickly in his polished black boots.
Neither he nor police doubt that Warren's storage unit was targeted. It's not easy to find and is only another numbered orange door.
And there's the fact that the heist was carried out in broad daylight: At 1:29 p.m. that New Year's Eve Monday, the thieves apparently had a bit of trouble getting out of the storage center's rolling locked gate.

The culprits tried in vain to use Warren's storage unit number as a code on the keypad. That attempt was recorded on U-Haul's computer system, and police think another car must have opened the gate and ultimately allowed the crooks to escape.
The thieves left burgundy scrape marks along the concrete floor leading from Warren's storage unit, and Eubanks said they apparently used dumbbells to move it to a freight elevator.
From there, it was just a few short feet out a rear door to a waiting vehicle. A coffee table and blanket were also missing, which Eubanks thinks may have been used to hide the safe from public view.
The theft devastated Warren, who said he feels like a car accident victim.
He discovered the loss the next day, when he went to do a detailed inventory and take photos for a gun enthusiast in Chicago. The man was interested in buying much of Warren's collection, and the base negotiation price had started at $70,000.
Warren, who probably knows more about guns than many officers, wants to see the collection recovered, even if it is damaged. He knows the monetary value of the weapons, but he also knows the damage they can do.
On the off chance that someone does return the guns, Warren vows to reward them.
"I don't have any cash to offer anybody, but if I get them back, I'll come up with something," he said.
Anyone with information on the weapons is asked to contact Lodi police at 333-6727. Anonymous callers, who may be eligible for a cash reward, may contact Lodi-Area Crime Stoppers at 333-6771.
Contact reporter Layla Bohm at layla@lodinews.com.


Reader Feedback
DeltaPenguin wrote on Jan 12, 2008 2:46 AM:
I am a lifetime Lodi resident. I would like to consider myself a traveler, but work just does not seem conducive to that desire. I have commented on these boards on numerous occasions. I just choose not saturate them. This is a topic of particular interest to me and one that I have quite a bit of knowledge in.
My questioning of where you saw the footage was not one of your bias, but rather where the video came from. An officer would never compromise the integrity of a new vest, or their own vest for a demonstration of this type. There are far too expensive and, with each hit a vest takes, the integrity level of the vest diminishes. Being the video was from 1983, I would not hesitate to offer the assumption that is was created as propaganda to convince a gullible public that these rounds were more deadly than the the others (need to get that legislation passed).
Teflon coated bullets are real, but their destructive power against a bullet-resistant vest is a hoax. "
danielh wrote on Jan 11, 2008 9:08 PM:
You're a traveller, just passing through Lodi, right? I know one thing for sure, you just entered these comments.
The test was demonstrated by the City of Rochester (NY*) PD, on a local news broadcast, around 1983. The police officer used one of his own vests.
Today, if I saw the test again, I would expect the officer to fire his own .38 or 9mm into the vest to demonstrate that it was, indeed, a legitimate vest. Since this was 25 years ago, I can only speculate if he did that or not.
Still, television viewers had no knowledge of the amount of powder behind the "cop killer" bullet.
* No. I am not from NY. "
waytocool wrote on Jan 11, 2008 7:52 PM:
WY wrote on Jan 11, 2008 9:11 AM:
DeltaPenguin wrote on Jan 11, 2008 2:26 AM:
There will always be variables which allow even a basic bullet to penetrate a vest, however unlikely...but they do exist.
If you could, please let me know where you saw this. I would love to know the exact manner in which the test was conducted, the age of the vest, the weapon it was fired from, whether it was hollow-point, or full-metal jacketed, etc.
With the FBI, BATFE, Secret Service and National Institute of Justice conducting exhaustive testing and researching of these "cop killer" bullets, they have easily and with extreme confidence, debunked the myth of these bullets. I am highly suspicious of one bullet being fired and it disproving years and years of testing that involved tens of thousands of rounds.
To date, there has not been a single vest failure, or officer death as a result of an on-duty, officer involved shooting by a "cop killer" bullet. "
dogbark wrote on Jan 10, 2008 10:21 PM:
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nylodian wrote on Jan 10, 2008 5:45 AM:
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jackmax wrote on Jan 9, 2008 5:37 PM:
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ME wrote on Jan 9, 2008 4:19 PM:
weezer wrote on Jan 9, 2008 12:27 PM:
WY wrote on Jan 9, 2008 11:49 AM:
WY wrote on Jan 9, 2008 11:48 AM:
JACKMAX wrote on Jan 9, 2008 10:56 AM:
nsn_lodian wrote on Jan 9, 2008 9:27 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 9, 2008 7:52 AM:
WY wrote on Jan 9, 2008 7:39 AM:
nylodian wrote on Jan 9, 2008 7:38 AM:
DeltaPenguin wrote on Jan 9, 2008 2:10 AM:
I am not exactly certain as to why these rounds were initially made, however, there are numerous ammunition companies that market "hybrid" bullets and make ridiculous, or exaggerated claims of accuracy and stopping power. They make claims of their great bullets and typically, the uneducated, or immature shooter will swoop on those unconfirmed claims. I will not mention any brand names, but do some work on google and you will quickly see what I am talking about.
As far as who would buy them...Well, as mentioned above, the uneducated (or immature shooter)and gang members primarily. With a marketing gimmic of teflon being such a slippery substance, people started putting two and two together and eventually gang members began buying them up, with claims they could penetrate bullet resistant vests.
Law enforcement heard about these bullets and claims and fell into the hype of this newly created "cop killer" bullet and lobbied strongly to get it banned.
After the fact, countless rounds of testing were done and the results showed that the claims were absolute cow dung.
But, what legislator wants to be known as the one who prevented a bill from passing that was designed to bann "cop killers". "
danielh wrote on Jan 8, 2008 11:29 PM:
I am only saying that it is appropriate to maintain an armory to support the militia.
In light of current threats of house-to-house invasion, I even think some explosives and small missiles would be constitutional. "
weezer wrote on Jan 8, 2008 10:35 PM:
weezer wrote on Jan 8, 2008 10:34 PM:
WY wrote on Jan 8, 2008 10:31 PM:
WY wrote on Jan 8, 2008 10:29 PM:
WY wrote on Jan 8, 2008 10:18 PM:
WY wrote on Jan 8, 2008 10:12 PM:
awobs wrote on Jan 8, 2008 10:05 PM:
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AKM wrote on Jan 8, 2008 9:17 PM:
35764 wrote on Jan 8, 2008 8:44 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 8, 2008 8:05 PM:
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Leonard wrote on Jan 8, 2008 8:03 PM:
danielh wrote on Jan 8, 2008 7:54 PM:
The primary objective behind the 2nd amendment is the essential requirements of maintaining a militia. If a weapon can be evaluated for it being essential in maintaining a militia, then it is protected by the 2nd amendment.
I wish I had a proper reference to give to one of the only recent supreme court cases in which the 2nd amendment was tested.
I believe it was Miller vs. United States. The case was argued on the merits of whether a sawed-off shotgun could be used in a militia.
The United States argued that a sawed-off shotgun was not necessary for maintaining a militia. Miller was dead, and no attorney elected to appear at the supreme court to defend his case, so he lost. "
Taxpayer & Citizen wrote on Jan 8, 2008 7:53 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 8, 2008 7:13 PM:
educator wrote on Jan 8, 2008 6:40 PM:
Taxpayer & Citizen wrote on Jan 8, 2008 6:06 PM:
Taxpayer & Citizen wrote on Jan 8, 2008 6:02 PM:
We'd make our own fuses out of either rubber bands or string with gunpowder twined into it. Once in a while we'd go to the county work shed when they were having lunch and fill a quart soda or beer bottle with a blast of nitrogen and place a long fuse in it and when it exploded, it was really a rush. It's rattle windows two blocks away. Us poor kids had no other entertainment. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 8, 2008 5:47 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 8, 2008 5:46 PM:
Taxpayer & Citizen wrote on Jan 8, 2008 5:20 PM:
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Taxpayer & Citizen wrote on Jan 8, 2008 5:18 PM:
T & C wrote on Jan 8, 2008 5:17 PM:
DeltaPenguin wrote on Jan 8, 2008 5:17 PM:
Aside from the unfortunate idea that a cop is getting shot at, he/she is in no more danger of a bullet penetrating their vest than with any other jacketed hollow-point. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 8, 2008 4:56 PM:
I would say that these rounds are more deadly than other rounds if you happen to be a cop wearing armor and the crook shooting you with a handgun happens to be loading these bullets. "
DeltaPenguin wrote on Jan 8, 2008 4:24 PM:
I do not support people who are in possession of illegal ammunition, or illegal firearms. I have no respect for those who use loopholes to own said items either.
My point in directly speaking of these "cop killers" was not any kind of defense or endorsement. My point here, is that they are no more deadly than any other bullet. Do not focus on the fact that they have been deemed "cop killers". Focus on the fact that there is a felon out there with a large stash of bullets and weapons.
I focus more on the "cop killer" that is pulling the trigger rather than the bullet used.
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Lodian wrote on Jan 8, 2008 4:18 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 8, 2008 3:56 PM:
Since you seem to be defending cop killer rounds I am curious. What is your case for private ownership of cop killer ammo? "
DeltaPenguin wrote on Jan 8, 2008 3:25 PM:
danielh wrote on Jan 8, 2008 3:22 PM:
DeltaPenguin wrote on Jan 8, 2008 3:19 PM:
As for the teflon however, the facts are still over-whelming. It was just a gimic and they are no more prone to penetrating a vest than any other bullet. "
voter wrote on Jan 8, 2008 3:17 PM:
DeltaPenguin wrote on Jan 8, 2008 3:14 PM:
Since, countless tests have been done and re-done to the point of exhaustion. The only thing that was proven....1) They are bullets and 2)Teflon works great for eggs, but made zero difference on a bullet resistant vest.
Armor piercing rounds are significantly different than the marketing gimic known as teflon bullets. "
Taxpayer & Citizen wrote on Jan 8, 2008 2:45 PM:
nsn_lodian wrote on Jan 8, 2008 1:50 PM:
There aren't too many criminals running around with Long Guns robbing liquor stores for the obvious reason - its kinda hard to conceal a long gun under a trench coat.
The point is that these rounds give HANDGUNS the penetrating power of HIGH VELOCITY ROUNDS fired out of rifles. "
nsn_lodian wrote on Jan 8, 2008 1:47 PM:
He should talk to a financial advisor who wears a suit instead of one who wears camoulflage.
He would have been better off in Mutual Fund, because someone can't walk off with your mutual fund - and someone can't kill a cop with a mutual fund - and someone can't hold up a liquor store with a mutual fund. AND a mutual fund can't penetrate a flak jacket!
I think you get the picture. "
WY wrote on Jan 8, 2008 1:46 PM:
nsn_lodian wrote on Jan 8, 2008 1:43 PM:
educator wrote on Jan 8, 2008 1:20 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 8, 2008 12:26 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 8, 2008 12:24 PM:
educator wrote on Jan 8, 2008 12:12 PM:
judy wrote on Jan 8, 2008 12:01 PM:
danielh wrote on Jan 8, 2008 11:58 AM:
DeltaPenguin wrote on Jan 8, 2008 11:41 AM:
For those who question why this man would have moved his weapons to a secured facility, when it was fine in his home for all those years...You are probably the same people who would criticize him with even stronger conviction if all of these weapons had been stolen from his home.
As far as this armor piercing ammo. You can pretty much take any full-metal jacket large caliber rifle round and will discover it can pierce armor. Who cares. A 9mm round will kill someone just as easily as a so-called "armor piercing' round. Both will penetrate a standard home wall, a car door. Does the title "armor piercing" really matter? No.
The owner legally owned each weapon and tried to provide extremely safe storage for this collection. Although I would never own that many firearms, I will not judge, or slight him for his chose to legally own them. Additionally, he chose a location that was much safer than 99% of the homes in the world and even went through added measures to make it that much more secure.
I agree with many that this appears to be an inside job...Whether it is employees, friends...I do not know, but common sense dictates that this was a targeted location. I truly hops that the weapons and ammunition are located. We already have too many out there on the street. "
weezer wrote on Jan 8, 2008 11:28 AM:
I don't know why but Warren reminds me of TV's Jericho character, Robert Hawkins.
Something's missing in this story. I hope the FBI steps in. "
nsn_lodian wrote on Jan 8, 2008 11:02 AM:
nsn_lodian wrote on Jan 8, 2008 11:00 AM:
I knew you could .... "
shannonlee05 wrote on Jan 8, 2008 10:27 AM:
Taxpayer & Citizen wrote on Jan 8, 2008 9:57 AM:
weezer wrote on Jan 8, 2008 9:33 AM:
Obviously, this is an inside job. Someone knew too much and made money out of it. Information sells.
However, IMO, Warren's story isn't air-tight. All the more that U-Haul should help in the investigation. Would they allow this incident to damage their other branches' business? "
CLH wrote on Jan 8, 2008 9:24 AM:
WY wrote on Jan 8, 2008 8:55 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 8, 2008 8:55 AM:
As I said, I fully support the right to bear arms but I am not sure this is the guy I would want to be standing next to at the range as he send 500 lbs of armor piercing ordinance down range.
To each their own, I suppose. "
WY wrote on Jan 8, 2008 8:54 AM:
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Brian wrote on Jan 8, 2008 8:29 AM:
This character in the picture IS dawning quite a unique beard. Lodi always seems to be blessed with quite a unique cast of characters. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 8, 2008 8:07 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 8, 2008 8:07 AM:
Additionally, who ever heard of someone stockpiling weapons as a "retirement strategy" especially non collectors items like the ones that formed the bulk of this arms cache? "
nylodian wrote on Jan 8, 2008 8:00 AM:
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