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Ron Paul is a good choice

Updated: Monday, December 31, 2007 6:41 AM PST

I am writing in hopes of informing those who don’t know about Congressman Ron Paul’s current campaign for the Republican nomination for the presidency.

Ron Paul is a 10-term congressman from Texas and also a licensed doctor. I would like to encourage people who are looking for a change in America to look into him.

He has never voted to raise taxes; he voted against the Iraq War; against regulation of the Internet; against the very unpatriotic, undemocratic Patriot Act; against an increase in executive power; wants to erase the Federal Income Tax and IRS; wants to revamp U.S. foreign policy; and voted against an unbalanced budget.

These are only a few items on Ron Paul’s record, and he could very easily be considered the most conservative of Republicans running for the nomination this election.

Because mainstream media seldom cover him, discrediting him as a “long-shot candidate,” much is left to his ever-increasing grassroots campaign of millions of Americans across this country. He has been credited by many for “curing” their political apathy, presenting them with different, yet very realistic change for a better, more free America.

Ron Paul supporters made records by raising more than $4.5 million in a 24-hour period Nov. 5 and staged another mass fund-raiser Dec. 15, in memory of the Boston Tea Party, the event that was a catalyst to our first American Revolution.

I urge citizens from all political parties to look at this man and what he can do for America. Please visit his Web site for more information.

Thomas Pazo
Lodi

Reader Feedback

Leonard wrote on Jan 11, 2008 4:46 AM:

" Danni: I don't believe that you actually believe the filth you post. "

danielh wrote on Jan 11, 2008 12:32 AM:

" Leonard: What you don't realize is that your filthy description only works in the small circle friends that you have assembled in the sand box. It doesn't work amongst the adults. "

danielh wrote on Jan 11, 2008 12:17 AM:

" Leonard: If you can ever say anything credible, I'll let you know. "

danielh wrote on Jan 11, 2008 12:16 AM:

" Leonard: Nope. "

Leonard wrote on Jan 10, 2008 3:26 AM:

" Danni: Your "story" (your word, not mine) is not credible.

The reason why your "story" has drawn such attention is because it is an affront to basic human decency. You would have attracted the same sort of attention if you had said that you like to torture kittens or that you like to collect kiddie porn. The sort of filth that you are putting forward naturally draws revulsion and disgust. "

danielh wrote on Jan 10, 2008 12:07 AM:

" Ivan Dixon: I know you're lying, because the website has 4 pictures in it, and you spoke in the singular. "

danielh wrote on Jan 10, 2008 12:06 AM:

" Ivan Dixon: If you looked at "my picture," at http://www.lodinet.com/danielh/911/popMech_911.asp,
you'd have a hecka lot more to say. The picture is pretty much unmistakable, and you'd have to do a lot of talking because you'd know you are backed into a corner. "

danielh wrote on Jan 9, 2008 10:56 PM:

" If you only knew how we classify you into a group of people according to your way of thinking... We laugh at you quite a bit. I am the only person from within my groups (not just one), who exhibits a degree of patience to communicate with you, although my friends laugh at me for wasting my time. "

danielh wrote on Jan 9, 2008 10:54 PM:

" You folks know that I have a credible story, and you are offended because it disturbs the protected status-quo environment, in which it is too easy to believe in what you are told in the controlled media.

If I really did have a false story, you wouldn't be offended by it, and you would just lose interest.

This story only had about 50 hits, until I offended thee. If you look at Arne Aasen's story, he only got 50 hits, because his story was not credible. "

danielh wrote on Jan 9, 2008 10:45 PM:

" Folks: enjoy the play yard. It's all yours. Don't accept any rides home from strangers. "

danielh wrote on Jan 9, 2008 10:44 PM:

" I can't teach people that refuse to process external information in their surroundings.

"

Leonard wrote on Jan 9, 2008 5:26 PM:

" It seems to me that Dann is part of a conspiracy to convince people that there is a pod on this aircraft. One wonders who could be behind such a nefarious plot.

"

Ivan Dixon wrote on Jan 9, 2008 4:30 PM:

" I looked at your picture, I don't see a pod.

What part of that don't you understand? "

danielh wrote on Jan 9, 2008 2:41 PM:

" nylodian: You rested your case, but now you are still making remarks. Then my comment to you is the same. At http://www.lodinet.com/danielh/911/popMech_911.asp, you would have to be blind not to see the pod. The "hitcounter" is not functioning properly, so you can go in there anonymously, and I won't even know that you've been in there.

I promise the pod is marked in a perfect rectangle. There is no way out, unless you don't look at the website. "

nylodian wrote on Jan 9, 2008 7:27 AM:

" If a tree falls down in a forest, and no one is around to hear it, will Daniel still be obsessing over imaginary pods? ;) "

danielh wrote on Jan 9, 2008 6:48 AM:

" Boomer: If you would look at the pictures at http://www.lodinet.com/danielh/911/popMech_911.asp,
you would have to be blind, or an accessary to the crime to not see the pod. You'll be so offended that you'll talk to me again.
"

robotsworld wrote on Jan 9, 2008 6:01 AM:

" Ron Paul has said over and over again that those THUGS who committed the 9/11 attacks were 100% responsible for 9/11.

He says you HAVE to find their "motives." Just like when a murderer commits a murder...we find his MOTIVE.

READ the following quote, please read the entire article online:

http://hnn.us/articles/45967.html

"Those who think that Paul's noninterventionist outlook somehow amounts to a "weakness" on the terrorism issue might examine the view of the former chief of the CIA's bin Laden Unit, Michael Scheuer the man whose team gave the Clintons ten separate opportunities to capture or kill Osama bin Laden before September 11th."

"After a debate last May, when Congressman Paul tangled with former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani over his view that we're threatened by suicide terrorists due to our bombings, occupations and support for dictatorships in the Middle East, Scheuer released a statement defending him."

"Of [all] presidential candidates now in the field from both parties, only Dr. Paul has had the courage to square with the average American voter." He continued, "[Y]ou can safely take one thing to the bank. The person most shaken by Dr. Paul's frankness was Osama bin Laden, who knows that the current status quo in U.S. foreign policy toward the Islamic world is al Qaedas one indispensable ally."

THIS coming from Michael F. Scheuer the former CIA employee. In his 22-year career, he served as the Chief of the Bin Laden Issue Station (aka "Alec Station"), from 1996 to 1999, the Osama bin Laden tracking unit at the Counterterrorist Center. He then worked again as Special Advisor to the Chief of the bin Laden unit from September 2001 to November 2004. "

Boomer wrote on Jan 9, 2008 3:24 AM:

" danielh: I looked at the photo, there is no "pod". I have seen video of the second plane flying into the tower, there is no "pod". Over two thousand of your fellow Americans were murdered by a foreign terrorist and you want to blame our own government. That is just sick. I am done talking to you on this. "

danielh wrote on Jan 8, 2008 10:46 PM:

" Ivan Dixon: Try the following website:
http://www.lodinet.com/danielh/911/popMech_911.asp
"

danielh wrote on Jan 8, 2008 9:26 PM:

" Ivan Dixon: I don't know what else to say. I could either give up, or steal the image and make my own website with an arrow pointing at it. It is in good focus.

Perhaps it takes an eye for details on aerospace hardware.

Did you look on the right side of the fuselage, along the right, bottom edge, starting at the leading edge of the wing? "

Ivan Dixon wrote on Jan 8, 2008 8:27 PM:

" I saw the picture but I don't see a pod. "

danielh wrote on Jan 8, 2008 8:23 PM:

" Ivan Dixon: I was asking if you saw that thing mounted onto the side of an aircraft, would you board it? "

danielh wrote on Jan 8, 2008 8:22 PM:

" Ivan Dixon: If you can't find Boomer's picture, do a text search through this page for "popular mechanics". "

danielh wrote on Jan 8, 2008 8:21 PM:

" Ivan Dixon: Perhaps you entered late. Everybody is pretending nothing is strapped onto the side of the aircraft in Boomer's picture. A 6-foot diameter x 25-foot length aerodynamic hemispherical pod is mounted onto the starboard side of the aircraft. Beginning at the leading edge of the right wing, it extends about 10 feet aft of the nose.

A tiny source of white light can be seen at the leading edge of the pod.

I have my own ideas of how this whole system is integrated, and how it works, but I don't think this crowd could cope with life if I told them. "

Ivan Dixon wrote on Jan 8, 2008 7:23 PM:

" Daniel, you asked me whether I would board the aircraft in the picture. There was not pod on that aircraft. If you want to ask me about a some other real or imaginary aircraft go ahead. I was speaking about the aircraft that crashed into the Twin Towers on 9/11 "

Ivan Dixon wrote on Jan 8, 2008 7:15 PM:

" What pod? I don't see any pod? "

danielh wrote on Jan 8, 2008 6:32 PM:

" Let's see how many games people can play, to avoid the fact that their own photograph shows that the air vehicle was not carrying any passengers:
1) Refuse to answer questions or participate in the discussion until Leonard returns from vacation.
2) Don't look at the photo. Change the line of questioning to something else.
3) State that a conclusion cannot be made from the photograph, except by reference to a qualified aerospace engineer. (Even if the person they are addressing is such a qualified aerospace engineer, they can pretend he is not qualified because they dont like his qualified conclusions.)
4) Deny a human instinct not to accept a suitcase from a stranger if it ticks.
2) After a prosecution introduces exhibit A into court, the prosecution challenges the defense for its authenticity. They lack the intelligence to see that it is their own photograph.
3) Deny the fact that they are doing their own internet research to find another photograph, in hopes that they can find one that does not have the same strap-on pod.
4) Learn Photoshop to remove the strap-on pod, to generate another photograph.
5) So occupy the conversation with insanity, so as to avoid presentation of additional eye-witness testimony of the aircraft having no windows.
"

danielh wrote on Jan 8, 2008 6:07 PM:

" Ivan Dixon: You're playing games by changing the question. I'm asking you if you saw that pod strapped onto the side of the aircraft, would you board it? "

Ivan Dixon wrote on Jan 8, 2008 5:00 PM:

" Knowing that the plane was about to be hijacked by Al Queda murderers and crashed into a building, would I board the plane?

Heck no! "

danielh wrote on Jan 8, 2008 11:25 AM:

" Ivan Dixon: Would you board that aircraft? "

danielh wrote on Jan 8, 2008 11:21 AM:

" nylodian: The prosecution cannot challenge the defense on the authenticity of its own photo. "

nylodian wrote on Jan 8, 2008 7:49 AM:

" Daniel: I'm well aware of who provided the picture. Again, if you're so sure it's a pod, missle, radar, whatever and NOT the credible explanation Boomer posted, PROVE it's not a doctored photo. Meanwhile, I'll be spending my time focusing on something more useful. "

Ivan Dixon wrote on Jan 8, 2008 6:26 AM:

" They had to strap the radar to the side because they never could have fit it under the avionics cone at the front of the plane... with all the other radar.

This story just doesn't make any sense. Occams Razor tells us that the simplest answer is almost always the best answer and, based on that, I am with Boomer on this one. "

danielh wrote on Jan 8, 2008 5:48 AM:

" joemonty, John Galt, NYC_Subway Rat: Thank you for your references to Americas monetary system, and NAFTA. "

danielh wrote on Jan 8, 2008 5:46 AM:

" nylodian: Popular Mechanics provided the photo. "

danielh wrote on Jan 8, 2008 5:44 AM:

" Boomer: It's probably a radar device. Radar would be required to have a line-of-sight view of its target. If that can't be achieved in the nose of the aircraft, it could be strapped onto the side as a pod, like you see in the photo. "

danielh wrote on Jan 8, 2008 5:38 AM:

" Boomer: I trust my own eyes. Instead of asking someone if there is a pod strapped on the side of the fuselage, just look at the picture. It's a high quality image. "

jeffreydahmer wrote on Jan 8, 2008 4:38 AM:

" RON PAUL A TRULY GREAT AND HONEST MAN FINALLY!!! "

Boomer wrote on Jan 8, 2008 3:00 AM:

" danielh: continued from Popular Mechanics "When asked about pods attached to civilian aircraft, Fred E. Culick, professor of aeronautics at the California Institute of Technology, gave a blunter response: "That's bull. They're really stretching." So much for your "pod" theory.
"

Boomer wrote on Jan 8, 2008 2:55 AM:

" danielh: From the Popular Mechanics article: "After studying the high-resolution image and comparing it to photos of a Boeing 767-200ER's undercarriage, Greeley dismissed the notion that the Howard photo reveals a "pod." In fact, the photo reveals only the Boeing's right fairing, a pronounced bulge that contains the landing gear. He concludes that sunlight glinting off the fairing gave it an exaggerated look. "Such a glint causes a blossoming (enlargement) on film," he writes in an e-mail to PM, "which tends to be amplified in digital versions of images the pixels are saturated and tend to 'spill over' to adjacent pixels." "

joemonty wrote on Jan 7, 2008 6:06 PM:

" Brian typed: As long as people are being born and growing up and entering the workforce it would be counterproductive to go back to gold or silver standard.

To paraphrase Brian - fiat money is good as long as we are alive.

Brian, This is a riduculous economic argument for the purpose of the Federal Reserve.

Anyways, I found a quote from Bernanke on the federal reserve web site in which Bernanke says the Fed caused the Great Depression. I had to check it out myself, and sure enough it is in a Bernanke speech on their web site.

It's amazing! The Federal Reserve chief admits they caused the Great Depression.

Check it out.
http://curedmyapathy.blogspot.com/2008/01/federal-reserve-admits-causing-great.html

"Regarding the Great Depression. You're right, we did it. We're very sorry."

Thank you. "

joemonty wrote on Jan 7, 2008 5:58 PM:

" Brian, covert operations and torture are two seperate issues.

"Torture is an issue for many governments. Our covert military operations are very effective."

John McCain had experience with torture. Maybe you can do some research McCain's disagreement with using torture.

Thank you. "

John Galt wrote on Jan 7, 2008 5:46 PM:

" Google Ron Paul to learn more. I may not agree with all of his positions. But, I do agree with most! The IRS is out of control, have you done your own taxes lately? Public schools are dumbing down our kids. Tolls are being placed on our roads. 35,000 new laws are passed each year noting each law takes a little freedom from someone. We have 85% of all the attorneys in the entire WORLD! A 8 year old is getting sued for snow skiing in Colorado. Emergency rooms are closing because most of the accounts are "general delivery" and uncollectable. Inflation is running wild with food and gas going up each day. And, there is someone out there that doesn't think we need Ron Paul? "

nylodian wrote on Jan 7, 2008 5:40 PM:

" Daniel: So who was I quoting, exactly?Here's my very own thought that, believe it or not, I was able to come up on my own and I didn't even get dizzy: PROVE the "missle" you see isn't digitally added by some nut trying to mislead the public. "

danielh wrote on Jan 7, 2008 5:20 PM:

" nylodian: If you were told to board an airplane that had a 30-foot long bomb strapped onto the side of it, I think you'd be smart enough to know that it's not an airplane. "

danielh wrote on Jan 7, 2008 5:19 PM:

" nylodian: The image is in excellent focus. If you can't look at the picture, and analyze what is shows, then you cannot defend your position. All you can do is quote people that have your same unjustified opinion. Maybe you can make a deal with someone, and you can quote each other. "

NYC_Subway Rat wrote on Jan 7, 2008 2:04 PM:

" Vote "Yes" Ron Paul.
Say "No" to the NAFTA Super Highway. "

Leonard wrote on Jan 7, 2008 10:05 AM:

" Brian: I think that is an excellent analogy. Folks like Daniel look for the grain of sand that is inconsistent with the rest of the beach and then conclude that there is no beach. "

Brian wrote on Jan 7, 2008 8:30 AM:

" Nylodian, This is exactly how conspiracy theory works. They look for that grain of sand that is inconsistent with the rest of the beach to expand their theory. Not that their aren't conspiracies. It's how far some go to debunk an indesputable truth in a given situation. "

nylodian wrote on Jan 7, 2008 7:24 AM:

" I have a conspiracy theory of my own and know I will get grief for it, but I think it is possible that some Republicans fear the appeal of Ron Paul and are responsible for attaching the 9/11 conspiracy theories to him. I believe he would take more votes from Republicans than Democrats if he became a third-party candidate. "

nylodian wrote on Jan 7, 2008 7:16 AM:

" Daniel: I did look at it and I am able to admit that I have no expertice on airplanes other than flying to visit Lodi a couple times a year. My point on matrixing and this photo was that given your preexisting views, if it was possible you were viewing the photo looking to find (and possibly misidentifying) something within it to fit you theories. "

Brian wrote on Jan 7, 2008 7:00 AM:

" Dnielh wrote: The JBS source is of the opinion that terrorists attacked the WTC. However, it is their position that the govt had full knowledge of the attacks, in advance, and took steps to assure that the attacks would actually succeed. I am hoping someday that we can put our two versions together and come to a common understanding. "

Danielh, It's apparent you feel your theory could be welcomed by the JBS.
And on that note, you share many of the sentiments the JBS has on 9/11. It's quite obvious you consider yourself a spokesperson for the JBS. "

danielh wrote on Jan 6, 2008 11:35 PM:

" Leonard: You may be laughing, but you are validating my work. Thank you very much! "

Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2008 7:14 PM:

" ROTFLMAO!!! Danni wants to negotiate with the JBS to come up with a common conspiracy theory! This is brilliant. Our boy actually wants to form a conspiracy to fabricate a conspiracy. "

Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2008 7:08 PM:

" I can't speak for Brian but the point, as I see it, is that the JBS is the National Enquirer of political organizations. "

danielh wrote on Jan 6, 2008 7:00 PM:

" Brian: What's your point? I just said that my theory is different than theirs. "

Brian wrote on Jan 6, 2008 6:34 PM:

" The John Birch Society's reputation precedes them. They have a great amount of experience in concocting conspiracy theories. "

danielh wrote on Jan 6, 2008 6:23 PM:

" Boomer: You endorsed a reference to Popular Mechanics, and I responded. In a meaningful discussion, you can at least look at your own photograph and see the pod mounted on the side of the aircraft, in a photograph that you endorsed.

I am saying that passengers don't board aircraft that look like that.

I am well aware of the 1993 bombing. As I was in the US Navy in 1993, I don't recall how I learned of the bombing. I recall reading a scary story about how a terrorist intended to destroy the main support columns within the parking garage below the building.

Subsequently, when I joined the JBS, they identified the terrorist that coodinated the plot. Occasionally, they update the story with their latest findings on either the whereabouts of this terrorist, or how the government has allowing him to go free.

The JBS source is of the opinion that terrorists attacked the WTC. However, it is their position that the govt had full knowledge of the attacks, in advance, and took steps to assure that the attacks would actually succeed. I am hoping someday that we can put our two versions together and come to a common understanding. "

Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2008 6:07 PM:

" Boomer: Actually, the 93 attacks happened long before I moved to NYC but you are absolutely right. We are at war with radical Islam and the fact that fellow traveler's like Danni insist on spreading nauseating propaganda for the enemy makes me sick. I am all for Free Speech but one does wonder exactly how much aid and comfort these sorts of lies provide the enemy. "

Boomer wrote on Jan 6, 2008 5:59 PM:

" danielh: So if Bin Laden isn't responsible for 9/11, who tried to blow up the Twin Towers in 1993 with a truck bomb? The FACT of the matter is Bin Laden was responsilbe for both attacks. You probably don't remember the 1993 attack, but Leonard should. "

Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2008 5:55 PM:

" Chuckle... make that "were not". "

Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2008 5:54 PM:

" Danni: The verb in the sentence is "is". Apparently, language and syntax was not part of your alleged course of study. "

Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2008 5:53 PM:

" nylodian: No worries. I hope that what you said about matrixing will give Daniel some food for thought. As I said before, I really do believe that, in his heart of hearts, he knows that the terrible things he says are lies but, sadly, he seems to be controlled by some sort of compulsion which he is unable to control. "

danielh wrote on Jan 6, 2008 5:51 PM:

" nylodian: Did you go back and look at Boomer's reference and see the features of the photo that I pointed out? "

danielh wrote on Jan 6, 2008 5:50 PM:

" Boomer: If you want learn if foxes are eating the chickens, don't ask a fox. I responded to your previous post. "

danielh wrote on Jan 6, 2008 5:49 PM:

" Leonard: Incomplete sentence. Finish with a verb please. "

Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2008 5:33 PM:

" Danni: As far as I can see, you have only claimed credentials. I can see no evidence that you ever actually earned them and, frankly, given the atrocious lies you have told on this forum, I am not inclined to believe a word that you say. "

Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2008 5:31 PM:

" Danni: The fact that I lived through 9/11, the fact that I knew people who were in the towers when the planes hit, the fact that I knew people who were down the street when they fell, the fact that I know what I am talking about while you are utterly without a clue is entirely relevant. "

Boomer wrote on Jan 6, 2008 3:33 PM:

" The History Channel is running a program titled "The 9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction". It's on now on satellite, it will probably be on at 5PM local time on cable. It a good job debunking most of the 9/11 myths. "

danielh wrote on Jan 6, 2008 3:23 PM:

" nylodian: Oh! You live in NY. Looks like you know more about Rochester's weather than me. "

danielh wrote on Jan 6, 2008 3:21 PM:

" nylodian: OK. Nope. I know what I see in the pictures. The photograph in Boomer's reference clearly shows a modified aircraft. Perhaps you are "matrixing" it into a passenger airliner. "

nylodian wrote on Jan 6, 2008 3:14 PM:

" Leonard: my heart goes out to you having to witness such horror. I have always respected your posts regarding 9/11, and by questioning Daniel, I wasn't legitimizing his views nor making light of the tragedy which affected (and still affects) many of my friends here in NY. "

danielh wrote on Jan 6, 2008 3:11 PM:

" ...and I hope that I never need authenticate my credentials again.

Particularly, I recall a few people making jokes about them. That is OK, because they can't take my degrees away from me, and because it shows that I am important.

People like Ron Paul get debated, and I was aware of him 3 years ago. Conversely, I never heard of Huckabee until people started voting for him for president.

If a person never gets criticized, they aren't trying to inspire anybody for new thinking. "

danielh wrote on Jan 6, 2008 3:07 PM:

" In regards to personal stuff: I was asked to qualify myself. Specifically, I was asked if I had credentials, and if I had personal experience with the conspiracy.

The only personal stuff was the reference to weather in Rochester. "

nylodian wrote on Jan 6, 2008 3:06 PM:

" Daniel: in regard to bias, I meant a bias towards an idea, or belief. Matrixing is phenomena where the human brain wants to process meaningless shapes into something it recognizes. In many claimed "ghost" photographs, believers in the paranormal see a face where in reality the shape is caused by light and shadow. Or a religious person may see the Virgin in a knot on a wooden fence. "

danielh wrote on Jan 6, 2008 3:03 PM:

" Leonard: The fact that you were in NYC on 9/11 doesn't mean that your beliefs about the situation are correct. "

Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2008 12:39 PM:

" Lodian: I took no offense at your post. What I was trying to say was that, while I normally try to stick to the issues, the presentation of a such a diseased point of view as Daniel's demands an analysis of the reasons behind it. "

Lodian wrote on Jan 6, 2008 12:27 PM:

" Leonard: I agree with your comments. My comment about this board getting too personal was regarding danielh as he posted a lot of personal information about himself. I just thought that was reminiscent of the poster " real facts". "

Lodian wrote on Jan 6, 2008 12:17 PM:

" Leonard: I had no idea you had experienced 9/11 so closely. I can't even begin to imagine what that must have been like. "

Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2008 10:19 AM:

" To be fair to Daniel, I believe that in his heart of hearts, he knows that the terrible things he says are lies. It is obvious to me that this man suffers from some pretty serious problems that drive him to deny the perceived truth on any and all issues.

In many ways, I pity the man but I can not allow my compassion to cloud the duty I feel to condemn these outrageous lies. "

Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2008 4:08 AM:

" To some people, this is all a game. Nothing is real to them. They can spout nonsense about 9/11 all day and night, just like they do about JFK, Elvis and the space aliens. What they don't understand is that real people died on that day.

This is not a game. It is not an amusing pass time to fill the empty hours of an otherwise meaningless life. This is a real event that happened to real people and those people who lost their lives deserve to be acknowledged and accorded respect.

People like Daniel are no better than Rev Phelps and the protesters who attack the grieving family members at military funerals.

Despicable! "

Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2008 4:02 AM:

" Lodian: I lived in New York on 9/11. I heard the second plane fly overhead, I stood by as coworkers watched their spouses die on TV. I breathed the incinerated remains of the victims. The minute someone starts espousing an obscene position like Daniel's, things get very personal for me.

I have to admit that I am appalled to see otherwise decent posters legitimate such revolting nonsense. "

Lodian wrote on Jan 5, 2008 11:43 PM:

" Why is this board getting so personal? I'm having flashbacks of "real facts". UGH! "

danielh wrote on Jan 5, 2008 9:33 PM:

" Leonard: This is just another one of your games. You know you're guilty. In boldface print, it says "Leonard." If you change your UserID, that would be different.

Additionally, I don't care if LNS deletes my statements to you. I wouldn't be insulted. "

danielh wrote on Jan 5, 2008 9:30 PM:

" nylodian: If I ever wanted to become a politican, I might have trouble getting campaign donations from special interest groups that benefit from global warming. For politicians in higher offices, their cooperation with GW might be required. McNerney is a huge example of that. "

danielh wrote on Jan 5, 2008 9:28 PM:

" nylodian: Regarding: "reinforce a previous conclusion formed under a bias."

In bias, usually a person has some sort of conflict of interest.

My salary is low, and unconnected to anything that I promote. I also don't hold any kind of political power.

Conversely, global warming politics is driven by a lot of political power, which is better than money. That is where the bias lies.

One reason I am able continuously to oppose political pseudo-science is because of my having nothing to lose. Nobody can threaten to take my salary or contract away from me. "

danielh wrote on Jan 5, 2008 9:22 PM:

" nylodian: Rochester wasn't my home, but it broke my heart to leave some friendships out there.

"

danielh wrote on Jan 5, 2008 9:21 PM:

" nylodian: And you are not kidding about Rochester. In addition to regular snowfall in the surrounding areas, they get extra moisture off of Lake Ontario because the circular air flow around a low pressure zone, brings extra moisture off the lake.

I have been into the Sierras in the dead of winter, but never on a daily basis.

In Rochester, we had 0-degrees, but with blistering wind. Wind chill was -45 degrees, for about a week.

One time I flew through Chicago, and the temperature was -70 degrees. I got off the airplane and walked through the tunnel. It was just about that cold inside the tunnel.

Police stopped all cars, asking them what was their emergency that necessitated their driving. "

danielh wrote on Jan 5, 2008 9:15 PM:

" nylodian: I am not familiar with "matrixing." If you are referring to some manipulation of the photograph, it wouldn't make sense for Popular Mechanics to change the photograph, because they are arguing that the "air vehicle" is a hyjacked airliner. If they altered the photograph, they certainly would not want to disguise the airliner as a missile. "

nylodian wrote on Jan 5, 2008 8:27 PM:

" Daniel: I bet you don't miss January in Rochester. It was -2 around these parts a couple days ago. "

nylodian wrote on Jan 5, 2008 8:24 PM:

" Daniel: I give you props with your science credentials, whether or not I agree with your views. I am still left to wonder if it is possible that you may be using your scientific knowledge to to reinforce a previous conclusion formed under a bias. As for your comment to Boomer and the photograph in Popular Mechanics: are you familiar with the phenomena of "matrixing"? "

Leonard wrote on Jan 5, 2008 8:20 PM:

" Daniel: What part of "Your Exalted and Serene Majesty Leonard the Great" don't you understand? "

danielh wrote on Jan 5, 2008 7:54 PM:

" Leonard: I haven't seen any of my old friends for 15 years. "

danielh wrote on Jan 5, 2008 7:53 PM:

" Boomer: In your website http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html,

excellent photography reveals that it is not a hyjacked aircraft.

If you look on the starboard side of the forward fuselage, you'll see an extra cigar-shaped pod mounted onto it. It begins at the leading edge of the right wing, and runs alongside almost to the pilot area. This feature is conclusive.

My further suspicions of the rear fuselage would not survive a jury, if it were the only piece of evidence by itself. But, since the forward section of the aircraft is conclusive, I will take liberties of saying that the rear fuselage has a double-cylinder cross-section, not circular.
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danielh wrote on Jan 5, 2008 7:37 PM:

" Ivan Dixon: Does Italy use the caribinieri to protect the government from its citizens? I don't spend very much time studying Italy. "

danielh wrote on Jan 5, 2008 7:29 PM:

" Brian: I'd be happy to answer your question, but first, can you tell me one difference between the SS, and Homeland Security/Patriot Act.

If you want to say genocide, let me also ask, can Homeland Security not satisfy the same objective as the SS, if it does not commit genocide?

So, what's the difference? "

danielh wrote on Jan 5, 2008 7:23 PM:

" nylodian: The only problem with asking me if I would be willing to consider the opposite side of my arguments and theories is that I used to have the opposite opinion, just like you. "

danielh wrote on Jan 5, 2008 7:22 PM:

" nylodian: When I was mentioning "thermite" and Newton's 2nd Law of physics, I knew what I was talking about.

Personally, about 20 times, I have mixed my own private mixture of thermite, and set it off just for good show. In terms of safety, I know full well that it has burned a person's hand "off." It burns at 6000 deg-F, in about 1 second. I also know that my own private blow torch will not ignite the mixture. In fact, I am so certain that I know the behavior of thermite that I am not afraid accidental ignition when I hit it with a blow torch (temperature of burning jet fuel). I have to use my blow torch to ignite the fuse, which is very close to the mixture.

I can recite the temperatures of the WTC situation. "

Leonard wrote on Jan 5, 2008 7:21 PM:

" Danni: ROTFLMAO!!!! Is that why you are spouting all this nonsense about global climate change??? Its all because you are trying to get a job with Big Oil??? Literally LOL!!! As I was saying on the subject of credibility..... "

Leonard wrote on Jan 5, 2008 7:19 PM:

" Danni: As I am sure you noted, I specifically requested that, when addressing me, you use the moniker "Your Exalted and Serene Majesty Leonard the Great". Seeing that you have not afforded me this basic courtesy, I have no choice but to request that the censors delete your offensive posts. "

danielh wrote on Jan 5, 2008 7:15 PM:

" nylodian: By personal experience of 6 years employment at Space Systems/Loral, in Palo Alto, CA, I witnessed from the sidelines of a scandal in the Clinton administration, and it affects America's security with staggering consequences.

Thanks to the Clinton and G.H.W. Bush (Sr) administrations, both of their justice departments, and engineering treason from Space Systems/Loral, in Palo Alto, CA, the Chinese advanced their nuclear delivery technology, and they obtained sensitive cryptology codes for commanding our military space satellites.

Clinton's tolerance for this compromise in America's security, is nothing short of treason. Additionally, Clinton's acceptance of Chinese cash in his political campaign, and in the Clinton library, constitutes bribery. These are the real reasons why he should have been impeached. Basically, the House's reduction of charges down to "lying to a federal grand jury" assured that Clinton would never be impeached for bribery and treason, and the senate would reduce the charges down to sexual dysfunction.

You may recall that Space Systems/Loral gave its finest engineering expertise on some problems to the Chinese Long March II Intercontinental Ballistic Missile. If you are talking to Loral, ICBM is not politically-correct. You are supposed to say "space launch vehicle (SLV)." SLV's are used to launch INTELSAT-VII satellites. Nuclear warhead delivery is easier than SLV engineering. Hence, Loral provided critical engineering for China's nuclear delivery capability.

If you are talking to the Chinese, 20 of these ICBM's are fitted with America's finest technology in MIRV'd nuclear warheads, capable of targetting with USA/Loral accuracy any target within the USA.

I visited my friends at Loral after a launch failure, and we talked about their experience which resulted in China stealing a cryptology code box from a Loral satellite. "

Leonard wrote on Jan 5, 2008 7:12 PM:

" Danni: I have never said that you were gay and I am not entirely sure why you keep bringing the concept up over and over and over and over again. "

Leonard wrote on Jan 5, 2008 7:10 PM:

" Danni: I have absolutely no idea what your age or gender is since I have never met you in person. You say that you are a man in your 40s and, for the sake of argument, I am hesitantly willing to take you at your word.I have to say, however, that each time you spout an obvious lie about 9/11 or global warming the value of your word deteriorates. "

danielh wrote on Jan 5, 2008 7:00 PM:

" nylodian: If you note my credentials, you could observe that I am qualified to advance in my career into the oil companies, where I would just disappear, and noone in the middle class or lower class would ever hear from me again.

I am not exaggerating to say that my personal values against big business is precisely what kept me out of oil companies for which I am qualified by my scientific knowledge and engineering talent.

I denied myself a career path that was baited by extreme salaries, on account of moral values against big business.

If this does not earn me some respect, it certainly does demonstrate my personal values. "

danielh wrote on Jan 5, 2008 6:52 PM:

" nylodian: I appreciate your asking me to fess-up with my credentials. I have a B.S. Chemical Engineering from UC Davis. Additionally, I have a M.S. Chemical Engineering from University of Rochester.

In my M.S. degree, I had option A, which requires a research project, a thesis, and a defense. I had a board of 5 professors who read my thesis, heard my public defense, and approved my degree.

I am quite qualified to distinguish philosophy and politics from true scientific method. Accordingly, in any scientific claim, I can classify it, and if it truly is science, I can determine if the conclusion is supported by the experiment.

If a subject is science, but lacks a scientific control, which is often the case in medicine, I can at least observe controversies, even if not understanding them completely, as would be the case in medicine or dentistry. In medicine, it is unethical to inform a critically ill patient that they are involved in a scientific experiment, and then treat them as a control or give them placebos, without notification, if they have a terminal illness.

In the case of global warming, which is not science at all, any scientific experiment would need to address a control for comparison. This is difficult, but if it's not discussed, it's not science.

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danielh wrote on Jan 5, 2008 6:41 PM:

" Leonard: You are a master at acting ignorant of facts. You know darn well that my gender is male, and my marriage, happily, is with a woman. I do not appreciate nor will I allow myself to be addressed as either gay or female.

I have never complained, not ever, when you addressed me at an inferior age. It is irritating, but I just consider the source, and I continue communications. You have had more than a clue about my age. You do know that I am at least of age to be a military veteran, and also add enough years to have a graduate degree.

If you want better respect, you might try addressing me as an adult, no matter how much you object to my posts and my letters, and certainly, you will address me as a male gender. "

Ivan Dixon wrote on Jan 5, 2008 1:10 PM:

" Lots of countries have internal security forces. In Italy, they have the Carabinieri. In Spain they have the Polica Nacional. In the US we have the Department of Homeland Security. In Nazi Germany, they had the SS. How these forces behave is what distinguishes them from one another. The Carbinieri are incompetent bumblers. The SS were murderous monsters of incomparable barbarism. "

Brian wrote on Jan 5, 2008 7:53 AM:

" It is the ACLU's intention to smear the Homeland Security Act based on insinuations that it is the American form of the German SS. POPPYCOCK!!! "

Brian wrote on Jan 5, 2008 7:50 AM:

" Though the Homeland Security Act has endangered First and Fourth Amendment rights and weakened more than a dozen privacy laws, the Act's sponsors contend that the post-9/11 climate justifies these intrusions, because, according to one Republican congressman, "The President needs the freedom and flexibility to protect the Homeland."

I seriously doubt we are are at risk
of getting marshall law in this country.
I cannot stress enough the significance of the last sentence in paragraph above.
It is the ACLU's intention to smear the Homeland Security Act based on insinuations that it is the American form of the German SS. POPPYCOCK!!!

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Brian wrote on Jan 5, 2008 7:35 AM:

" Danielh, The formation of the German SS is equivalent to Americas formation of Homeland Security?

Readers Beware! Danielh takes his views very seriously even though Ron Paul would probably be committed to an insane asylum if he were to share this view.
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nylodian wrote on Jan 5, 2008 6:56 AM:

" Daniel: I am asking this with all sincerity and respect: are you able to take a step back and take an unbiased look at the evidence that refutes the conspiracy theories? Can you at least acknowledge that you appear to have a bias that leans towards these theories in the first place? Finally, what scientific degrees or credentials do you hold that make you more of an authority than the other bloggers here? "

Boomer wrote on Jan 5, 2008 5:51 AM:

" danielh: I know you won't beleive this article but the March 2005 cover story of Popular Mechanics debunked the myths about a government conspiracy. popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html? I present these FACTS to the rest of the readers so they can see for themselves how off base you are on this issue. "