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Unfair seizure of coins


Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:38 AM PST

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Feds seize coins and illegal currency featuring Ron Paul.

This was the headline of an AP news story appearing in the News-Sentinel on Nov. 17. FBI agents raided the offices of NORFED which produces coins and paper currency. The coins and paper currency look nothing like the officially minted coins and printed currency and they are not advertised by the company as legal tender.

The company has been in business for 10 years and they have not been targeted by the U.S. government until now. In fact, both the United States Mint and the Federal Reserve have admitted that what the company was doing was perfectly legal.

What is the reason for the raid by the FBI if the company had been operating lawfully for nearly 10 years?

Earlier this year the company began minting two new coins, the 2008 "Peace Dollar" with the words "STOP THE WAR" on the reverse side and the 2008 coin commemorating the presidential campaign of Ron Paul. The Feds just have to stop Representative Ron Paul somehow, since he is the only presidential candidate who is pro-liberty.

Ron Paul refused to support the war with Iraq and has supported constitutional amendments eliminating both the Federal Reserve and the Internal Revenue Service. Our federal government will stop at nothing to eliminate anything which hinders its plan to establish a complete dictatorship. Please google "NORFED" and/or "Liberty Dollar" and check out Ron Paul's Web site at http://www.ronpaul2008.com.

Cliff Shirk
Lodi

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Rob wrote on Dec 3, 2007 6:17 PM:

" The Fed., the Bank of England, the Bank of Canada...etc... some 235 plus countries have fiat money, private, cartels. Back in Plato's day it was suggested very strongly that private enterprize shouldn,t control money, for some obvious reasons the least being gread. It is governments place to mint and support currencies, and build strong infrastructor. Gold was removed app0roximately in 35 world wide Why? "

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John Brown wrote on Dec 2, 2007 8:12 PM:

" You know slick if all he did was build the Military back up pre "CLINTON" Locked down the borders,get rid of the illegals,put in a flat tax and put in a manditory National service, before you go to collage your choice military or national service..OK by me.The last time I checked his web half the crap you put on your post was BS. "

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Anarchoyahudi wrote on Dec 1, 2007 11:25 PM:

" According to Duncan Hunter's website, he supports: A bigger and more intrusive Federal Gov't., more federal involvement in education, increasing the size and power of the Dept. of Energy, a national I.D. card, increased defense spending, more farm price supports, military action against Iran and more federal involvement in about everything. WOW! "

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Hard Truth wrote on Dec 1, 2007 1:46 PM:

" The FED hates competition just as the Ruling RepliNazis do, so those Ron Paul coins were a direct Public Relations attack on their world. You better learn to grovel because the 300 families/10000 people that run the show simply DO NOT CARE about you and your problems. As long as they hold the wealth life is good for all! Unless you locate their Mansions and their estates and 'liberate' their properties from them, don't forget to leave their bodies in the street. "

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John Brown wrote on Dec 1, 2007 11:28 AM:

" wtf,Daniel I trust you can read??? post Nov 30, 2007 12:32 PM: say's all that needs to be said about paul and the truthers,"sick puppys"also I said I saw only 1 on both partys that would get my vote and that was Duncan Hunter...Like I said I don't have much use for Liberal City folks... "

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Daniel wrote on Dec 1, 2007 8:57 AM:

" John Brown: wtf suggested that you find knowledge about a topic before you talk about it. "

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John Brown wrote on Dec 1, 2007 7:49 AM:

" I find it interesting about the Washington post article on the sunshie mine and the Feds.The mine is closed and will reopen in 2008.there was nothing in the news papers here (ie) ncdapress, Cœur d'Alene ID USA. As Coeur d'Alene is not far from Ruby ridge and folks take a dim view of the Feds it would have been front page news, well nothing,nada,zip,zero.... "

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John Brown wrote on Dec 1, 2007 7:31 AM:

" r80ant I will tell you where you can put your unpatriotic (communist)citizens remark!!God,Guts and Guns made this country and they will keep it.I believe in the Code of the West,Honor, a mans word is his bond,you start something you finish it,you don't lie. In a word I hate Political correctness and the fact that we have become a Nanny Nation... That is why I live in Idaho,don't have much use for city folks... "

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r80ant wrote on Nov 30, 2007 4:12 PM:

" Yeah John Brown, maybe you are right. They, the ruling elite, could not stand to have a leader that gives national addresses exposing secret societies and making the public aware of what is otherwise unknown to the majority of Americans. The last thing the evil Illuminasts need is a concious, informed public capable of critical thinking. The last thing we need is another good President with his head blown off. Vote Guiliani (sarcasm)! "

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wtf wrote on Nov 30, 2007 1:39 PM:

" John Brown since it appears there's no dirt on Ron Paul like there is on Ghouliani McRomney, you have to call names. How childish! Your "points" have no basis in reality and absolutely no merit. Why don't you actually try listening to and/or reading what Ron Paul has to say; then again, it may be beyond you since it is fairly apparent your "news" source is FAUX news and this could be the limit of your "brain" power. LOL! "

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Chuck wrote on Nov 30, 2007 1:25 PM:

" Pay attention here... It makes little difference who is at the wheel, the problem is that there are way to many Americans complaining and too few doing anything about anything... Whoever the president has NEVER made a lick of difference... "

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John Brown wrote on Nov 30, 2007 12:32 PM:

" ro80ant,this little gem says a lot about Mr Paul;CONSPIRACY PLANET THE ALTERNATIVE NEWS & HISTORY NETWORK Your Antidote to Media Cartel Propaganda.Ron Paul network!! "

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r80ant wrote on Nov 30, 2007 11:04 AM:

" One more thing John Brown, anyone who believes our government was in on 9/11 is a nut case? I have heard that argument at something called the Nuremburg Trials. In 1933, Hitler set a government building, the Reichstagg, on fire and blamed a foreign enemy. Of course, anyone who questioned the government's official story was automatically considered a nut case, unpatriotic, supporting the enemy, a threat, a suspect, and ultimately a terrorist. Mimicking the Nazis does not help your cause. "

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r80ant wrote on Nov 30, 2007 10:45 AM:

" Then there are folks like John Brown who play the "terror" card to frighten the public against voting for real people and not some fools linked to the International Bankers (Federal Reserve). Richard Pombo played the same card claiming his opponent was not tough enough against the "War on Terror". Give it up John Brown. You and others like you use fear tactics to scare people into voting for your favorite (New World Order) candidates. The real terrorists continue to get into office thanks to unpatriotic (communist)citizens like yourself. "

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r80ant wrote on Nov 30, 2007 10:32 AM:

" My hope is Ron Paul wins, but my fear is we as a people do not deserve such a noble and respectable man to lead us. We will continue to have dogs lead us into the New World Order until we correct ourselves and then God will see to it that we have a leader that suits our condition. Until then, seeing the way the world is heading, expect these war pigs to continue to rigging elections and warping the public's mind with the help of their bought out media. The people deserve who God puts over them. "

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John Brown wrote on Nov 29, 2007 10:01 AM:

" Dennis J. Kucinich Pres. Ron Paul VP. The nightmare before Christmas!!! "

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John Brown wrote on Nov 29, 2007 9:47 AM:

" Most likely to give authenticity a bad name: Ron Paul. "

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Anarchoyahudi wrote on Nov 28, 2007 10:37 PM:

" Repeal the Federal Income Tax and replace it with nothing. Then everyone who works for the Internal Revenue Service will be free to get real jobs. That's just for a starter. "

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John Brown wrote on Nov 28, 2007 12:53 PM:

" Our economy is having a tuff time,sure and why, one,Housing and that is because so many people went for no money down and an arm loan and lost their a** and Home "STUPID" and you still want you big cars and trucks and gas is heading for 4.00 a gallion... Sorry but that is nuts.It's time to clean house in the Congress,Senate an President and not with the same old Crap... Merry Christmas "

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John Brown wrote on Nov 28, 2007 12:41 PM:

" This country needs a person who will protect it from radical Islam and for that Paul hasn't a clue.As for taxes A flat tax, every one pays, Major Companys and down to the lowest wage earner.No deductions.Cut China off an put Americans back to work,And Americans need to learn how to work again and stop whining you don't know just how good you have it... "

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John Brown wrote on Nov 28, 2007 12:32 PM:

" John Brown: Why don't you find out what ideology Ron Paul represents.My,My anyone who belives our goverment was in on 9-11 is a nut case.As a democrat I have no choice in the slime running on the Democratic ticket "None" and for the Republican side little or none.The only man I see has no chance and that is Duncan Hunter... "

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Cliff Shirk wrote on Nov 28, 2007 12:27 AM:

" The 1913 dollar is now worth 4 cents. That means it now cost 25 dollars to buy the same product or service which could be bought in 1913 for a buck. How many of you want to sit back and take it? We don't have to. In the near future, Ron Paul is our best bet. What do you say? "

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oh no wrote on Nov 27, 2007 12:58 PM:

" let me get my tissue out and wipe away the tears because the big bad government took away my fake hippie money "

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Daniel wrote on Nov 27, 2007 8:06 AM:

" John Brown: Why don't you find out what ideology Ron Paul represents before you claim it is about fiction. "

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Daniel wrote on Nov 27, 2007 8:05 AM:

" Golden goose is dead: I agree that there will be consequences for their greed, but financially, they are doing quite well. "

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Daniel wrote on Nov 27, 2007 8:04 AM:

" Chuck: I think the coins were comprised of precious metals worth more than legal tender. "

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Chuck wrote on Nov 26, 2007 4:08 PM:

" Whats the harm? It's not like they are legal tender anyway., It's not like they are really worth anything....WTF? "

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Golden goose is dead wrote on Nov 26, 2007 12:41 PM:

" The Acquistors have gone too far and have ruined the economy. Their greed is killing them and taking us all down. Its now time for another archetype to lead. Prepare for the Laborers and Warriors to resume control(USA in the 30's-50's) (Germany in the mid 20's- 50's). These social cycles are the underlying factors of many government changes. Read Batra or Sarkar. Dr. Ravi Batra predicted this TEN years ago. It looks like China will be the greatest new super power the way our economy is sliding. "

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Golden Geese wrote on Nov 26, 2007 12:40 PM:

" If you don't work with your hands, learn a trade, you will need it when you have to fix/repair something or when you get laid off. Learn to use a shovel, pick, hammer and a screwdriver. These are the skills we should be teaching in school. The BS jobs are over. Our service economy is ready for a spin/dive. According to Sarkars Social cycle theory, I speculate the US will become oriented toward the Warrior or Laborer classes. "

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Golden Goose wrote on Nov 26, 2007 12:36 PM:

" I never said I supported anyone for president. I only say YOU are responsible for YOU over the next ten years. I would NOT trust government or banks. We know whose side they are on---Wall Street and The Bankers. I would leave stock and bond markets alone until they finish boiling. Be very cautious of CD's and Money markets. Build your own Victory garden. "

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ernest cann wrote on Nov 26, 2007 10:08 AM:

" Thank you for your HONEST REPORTING!!! The 'ILLEGAL CURRENCY'RAP by the AP et al, just goes to show, that the media conglomerates will stop at nothing to distort the TRUTH! Thanks again for your HONEST reporting!!! "

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wtf wrote on Nov 26, 2007 9:38 AM:

" The U.S. Dollar on the other hand: http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/US/M "

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wtf wrote on Nov 26, 2007 9:36 AM:

" As was pointed out, our standard of living has declined since 2000; even more so since the 1970s. But a Liberty Dollar bought 8 years ago has increased in value. Gold has gone from $300 an ounce to $800 and Silver from about $5 an ounce to $15. Can't say the same for the U.S. dollar - it barely covers current living expenses. One might get that piddly 1% "cost of living expense" but the cost of living is MUCH higher. "

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Raid was joke 2 wrote on Nov 26, 2007 9:36 AM:

" If I put the chips in a sock under the mattress they are safer than in a bank. I don't have to pay the sock to hold the chips. Socks don't pay interest, but NEITHER DO BANKS. Banks want you to buy CD's that include toxic junk bonds. They want you to buy money markets which hide even more toxic debt they're trying to dump. Names of bonds like the "conservative super-enhanced executive fund" are nothing but JUNK and worthless. Banks keep these off the debit sheets since many banks are in the hole already. "

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The raid was a joke! wrote on Nov 26, 2007 9:33 AM:

" I can go into any Vegas casino and win a jackpot. They pay in tokens. Do the tokens have value. You bet! Does the IRS bust the casinos? No way! If I keep a few chips from a card game, I can always go back and use them again. If I take my chips (money) to a bank they will charge me to watch them. Then they will oblige me to all sorts of "rules" so they can extract value from my chips(money). "

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Interesting #2 wrote on Nov 26, 2007 9:16 AM:

" The problem is, they are in cohoots with he same crooks that Bush is in cohoots with- THE BANKERS. When Bill Clinton was elected, within days he "forgot" his EXTREME radical supporters. He opened the back door to the White House and let the bankers sneak in and run the show. His face was "smiling Bill", but he was in their pocket from Day #1. "

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Interesting wrote on Nov 26, 2007 9:15 AM:

" Its interesting that bankers want us to save, yet won't pay any interest on our deposits(less than 1%), our government wants us to save, yet continualy devalues the dollar so money is worth less. The Euro and Canadian Loonie is worth more than the dollar, OPEC wants to be paid in Euros, maybe we should start buying Euros or Yen? The Democrats are praying for a financial disaster so we can all hold hands and sing peace songs when their candidate is elected. "

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killio wrote on Nov 26, 2007 8:53 AM:

" 99% of the people in this country are too ignorant to understand what this means. They have given up the freedoms that other fought and died for years ago for a false sense of security. This country is willingly going down the path to being a police state, and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Those who have the guns make the rules and look who has the guns.... "

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Kimmer wrote on Nov 26, 2007 8:41 AM:

" Since ancient times, to put an image on gold or silver is powerful. They have to take the power away from Ron Paul. "

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Daniel wrote on Nov 26, 2007 7:57 AM:

" T&C: Who is the "chump"? The answer to your question is already demonstrated in Ron Paul's voting record. "

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Mr. Cash wrote on Nov 26, 2007 7:56 AM:

" I am shocked that this story is not being represented as a theft from Americans by their government.There is absolutely no way these coins could be confused with anything printed by the federal reserve or minted.Anything can be legally used in commerce as long as both parties agree.There is no way that this theft from Liberty Dollar should be condoned. I can't think of anything more aggregious than to burst in with guns drawn and stealing from people. It is what thieves do, not what Americans are supposed to do. "

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Mad-as-Hell and Not-gonna-take-it! wrote on Nov 26, 2007 7:44 AM:

" An outlaw government resorts to outlaw tactics! One wonders how far it will have to go before people are willing to put their lives on the line to restore a lawful government to this land. We are a bunch of neutered slaves. "

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John Brown wrote on Nov 26, 2007 7:41 AM:

" Ron Paul and his Supporters=Cool aid Drinkers, Tinfoil Hatters and Nutroots. "

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Ajax wrote on Nov 26, 2007 5:22 AM:

" Paul would be not only a refreshing change but our best hope "

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Golden goose is in the water wrote on Nov 25, 2007 11:37 PM:

" Where is the underwriting in that? The biggest deadbeats are people who have ONLY debt and NO INCOME...thats underwriting 101. But that won't stop the banks from handing out the plastic. Would you loan a kid who never had a job $10,000 just because he is taking a few classes in college? NO way! I don't care if he is paying 50% interest. Someday he will stop paying and THAT will leave me stuck with the mess. "

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Goose is in a tailspin wrote on Nov 25, 2007 11:36 PM:

" They hope won't get 1099's to the IRS on the depreciated assets that were not paid do to the short sale or Foreclosure. Consumers have nothing to lose but the house and a few points on a FICO score, but millions of homeowners are doing it. All Banks are running scared. They are handing out high limit plastic to anyone who is in college. "

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Goose is a honker from Dakota wrote on Nov 25, 2007 11:36 PM:

" I don't care how "nice" the salesman is. Remember the "nice smiling Realtor" a few years ago? Smiling like a hungry alligator, crocodile or great white chark. Now what happened? Where did the Realtors run? Many comnsumers are waiting for the Congressional Mortgage bailout Bill in this election year. "

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The golden goose is dead wrote on Nov 25, 2007 11:35 PM:

" See what I mean? The housing bubble produced the credit bubble which is supporting the huge plastic bubble. Today, banks (non mortgage banks) are flush with cash from all the billions of pure interest. Tomorrow, they will be hurting when THAT bubble pops. If you have debt, PAY IT OFF even if you have to get a second job. Don't take on any additional debt no new cars, or electronic toys. "

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bamnks killed the golden goose wrote on Nov 25, 2007 11:34 PM:

" At a certain point for each consumer (most are wage earners with relatively fixed wages), a condition will be reached when they can not pay INTEREST OR PRINCIPAL. I know it, the banks know it, but no one is talking about it. Maybe Santa Claus will bring the money? Maybe I will win the lottery? Maybe that old tract house of mine is NOT WORTH $800,000? "

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Banks killed the goose wrote on Nov 25, 2007 11:29 PM:

" But consumers still have the plastic. You can't eat your house or wear your house. So consumers have been late on the mortgage and keep paying the plastic debt---WHILE THEY STILL CAN. In a short time they will be paying INTEREST ONLY ON THESE DEBTS. Then the game is over. Interest on interest compunds very rapidly. When debt ceilings are reached, banks can increase them (they will do that for awhile). "

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Banks have killed the golden goose wrote on Nov 25, 2007 11:27 PM:

" Banks have very lax underwriting standards now that the Bankruptcy law has changed. But the banks made a HUGE mistake. It used to be that the first bill consumers paid at the beginning of the month was the mortgage, and the last bill was the credit card. Now that housing prices are in a tailspin and mortgage payments stay the same or increase, consumers realize that the most they have to lose is the house (THERE IS NO DEFICIENCY JUDGEMENT ON HOUSES IN CALIFORNIA). "

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Big Credit Bubble is here wrote on Nov 25, 2007 11:26 PM:

" The Mint simply prints it based on instructions from the FED and Treasury depts based only on a consumers promise to pay the debt at a FED backed bank. Bankers spent over 58 million dollars lobbying a change in the 2005 Bankruptcy Act. Now its more difficult for a debtor to file Chapter 7. As a result, banks have been throwing money at people knowing they can't go bankrupt. "

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Big credit bubble is here wrote on Nov 25, 2007 11:26 PM:

" Bank fees are typically more than the 0.25% interest. BANKS DON'T CARE about you and your saving deposits UNLESS YOU CLOSE YOUR ACCOUNT. FED backed banks MUST HAVE RESERVES, but it can be money that was deposited from a loan FROM ANOTHER BANK. All money looks the same to the bank. Exactly like a HUGE PONZI SCHEME. If you tried this you would be sent to jail. So your bank deposits are NOT The money that the bank loans!!! Ask any banker! That money comes from, the FED. "

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Read This 3 wrote on Nov 25, 2007 10:52 PM:

" Its really not money--it is someone elses signed promise to pay back a bank loan. This explains why when you visit a FED backed bank they only care about selling you MORE debt in terms of plastic or loans...as high as 56% APR with one major bank. When you bring in cash to deposit, they could care less. Thats why they only pay 0.25% per year interest on a savings account. If they wanted your money, they would give you some respect with decent interest. "

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Read this 2 wrote on Nov 25, 2007 10:51 PM:

" This movie has no spin and just has the facts. I called up my financial planner who has enough credentials to sink a boat. He agreed with the video and thought it was a useful explanation. Its 45 minutes long. To the FED and most bankers, ALL of us are chumps. But they won't tell US that. I never knew that a one dollar Federal Reserve Note (dollar bill) ONLY represents one dollar of DEBT! "

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Please read this! wrote on Nov 25, 2007 10:49 PM:

" Use Google to search for "Money as Debt". This is an excellent FREE internet video that explains in detail what the FED does, how our money system, really works, what the fractional Reserve system is, and what fiat currency is (Federal Reserve notes). It is scary that this information is NOT taught in high school or college. I asked my local Lodi banker to review it and he agreed with everything in it. "

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Mickey wrote on Nov 25, 2007 7:41 PM:

" Barter is anything you want it to be. Not U.S. currency. Break the law, and pay the price. For those that don't know our currency hasn't been based on the value of metal for some time now. They should have stayed with their coins as collectors coins. "

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Ray of hope wrote on Nov 25, 2007 6:26 PM:

" Henry Ford once stated that if the Americans understood how banks made money, there would be a revolution before morning. Norfed Liberties are worth much more than I paid in silver alone since silver is up to about $15.00/oz? It costs 40% more today to sustain the exact same lifestyle that you had in 2000. Our money is trash, the constituion is trashed and our country is bankrupt .Ron Paul is the only hope there is left to return to some semblence of a free republic. So many are waking up, whats wrong with the rest of you? "

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Rayofhope wrote on Nov 25, 2007 6:23 PM:

" In a free society, especially in one where the government is supposed to use gold and silver to make coins, but has jobbed shopped out the work to a private cartel of bankers who create money from thin air and then charge the American people an income tax to pay interest on that debt. "

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ray of hope wrote on Nov 25, 2007 6:22 PM:

" Casino chips say $5.00 $10.00 up to $500.00 So are they illegal? Ithaca hours, Barter bux ect.. It is anyones choice what they want to use for trade. I choose items of value and substance. FRN's have no value they are backed by nothing. I some some of norfeds money. I bought some $10.00 liberty dollars about 8 years ago. They do not claim to be legal tender, but money is anything that you want it to be. "

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T & C wrote on Nov 25, 2007 4:55 PM:

" And just how many chumps are going to believe RonPaul is any less of a conman than his fellow politicians? He needs to do like toady Lieberman and run as Independant or Green. As long as he affiliates himself with the republikkkons, he has even less credentials than he now has, which is next to none. "

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Cleaner44 wrote on Nov 25, 2007 3:28 PM:

" Ron Paul is what America wants, he is the people's choice. He dominates in straw polls, debate polls, fund raising, web traffic and grass roots networking. I have gathered the evidence and created a website. Please visit www.thecaseforronpaul.com and judge for yourself. "

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David Goodman wrote on Nov 25, 2007 2:35 PM:

" Yes... what an obvious act of tyranny that raid was. Thanks for the article. There's a hilarious parody here you might enjoy: http://www.magoodnnews.blogspot.com "

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Mickey wrote on Nov 25, 2007 1:36 PM:

" Before talking find out. I have seen the coin, and it has one dollar on it. You can not mint your own coins, and use them as money. This was their statement: "NORFED claims its Liberty Dollars are inflation free and can restore stability to financial markets by allowing commerce based on a currency that does not fluctuate in value like the U.S. dollar." "

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John A. wrote on Nov 25, 2007 10:35 AM:

" Clearly these actions of seizing precious metal shows the federal government is scared that the people are restless and want smaller and less intrusive government. The federal government, mostly composed of decent law-abiding people, is being run by a few people with the power to police and use police force. Take back our country! Liberty, peace, and freedom through less federal government is the message of Dr. Ron Paul. "

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Wiggly wrote on Nov 25, 2007 8:01 AM:

" Various reports also wrongly claimed customers were suing the company. False, customers were already banding together to sue the US Mint! Ron Paul 2008! "

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Daniel wrote on Nov 24, 2007 9:44 PM:

" This is a huge story. It is more than just govt theft. The federal reserve is a cartel, and they rely upon the police protection of govt to protect their existence. "

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ksdrover wrote on Nov 24, 2007 8:49 PM:

" I am one of the customers that had their money STOLEN by the United States 'government' when they raided this office. As a result of the actions of a government that IS out of control I lost my money and my investment in precious metals. Why is it I can buy a piece of silver stamped with just about everything on it from Mickey Mouse to Santa Claus but if I buy one with STOP THE WAR on it or the face of the first politician to even approach the facts surrounding the Federal Reserve it becomes illegal? "

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Goldy wrote on Nov 24, 2007 7:52 PM:

" The Washington Post also reported that the Sunshine Mine in Idaho was also raided at the same time (this mine is where NorFed got its gold and silver for those coins), the FBI allegedly took all the gold and silver bars stored at the mine. IMO, that is outright theft of provate property by the federal government. They had no legitimate reason for taking gold and silver which was not pressed into coins, even if it somehow could be proven that the coins themselves were illegal (which they could not). "

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Sam wrote on Nov 24, 2007 5:37 PM:

" Ron PAul is our last chance. I hope he makes it. I hope they don't kill him. He's a brave man. "

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Chuck Feney wrote on Nov 24, 2007 1:48 PM:

" George W. Bush and Dick Cheney have a now commemorative coins set coming out next week. Minted from .9999 pure CHICKENSHIT! "

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wtf wrote on Nov 24, 2007 10:00 AM:

" Well said, Cliff! Guess Bush was jealous Ron Paul's face made it to a coin of value and his didn't LOL! Wonder if the FBI will be raiding Chuckie Cheese, Mickey Mouse & all of the other coin sellers; including the one who will put your own face on a coin. ;) Even the LNS has done it's part to marginalize Ron Paul - they don't always print links to articles about him. Chances are, for every ONE they do print, FIVE aren't. "

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