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Gore is trying to make people think


Tuesday, November 6, 2007 6:45 AM PST

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Mr. Gore is not running for president.

He is only trying to make people think a little and raise their awareness of a possible catastrophe that could confront all the living beings on Mother Earth.

If you do your research well, you will find fossil fuels are a major contributor of carbon monoxide to the atmosphere. Awareness and ideology might possibly be the only avenues to protect future generations.

Sir Isaac Newton had a theorem: "For every action there is an opposite reaction." I do not believe Bruce Schweigerdt is a climate scientist. What are his credentials?

I am an environmental biologist and believe I have the training to analyze the data. There is a rational debate going on, and as time passes the human race will face some tough decisions because the window of opportunity to do something is closing fast.

Frank Caruso
Lodi

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Billy Rubin wrote on Nov 18, 2007 6:10 AM:

" The governement has no agenda, so the government is free to have highly-paid scientists say what should be said. Whoever you are, Pippi, I hope you stick around because we need more thinkers like you and me here to fend off the loonie lefties. Hey, did you maybe serve under Admiral Brian in the Navy? He's cool. And he's honest, too! Semper fi, Brian! "

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Billy Rubin wrote on Nov 18, 2007 6:04 AM:

" Right you are, Pippi! I've long said Al Gore is chasing his tail and anybody who chases it with him gets what he or she deserves! Liberal scientists are the LAST ones we need to listen to. We KNOW that this God-given earth of ours cannot be hurt in any way. It's NOT POSSIBLE. Administration scientists (from WASHINGTON D.C., no less!) have told us the TRUTH! "

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historian wrote on Nov 17, 2007 7:30 PM:

" Trying to paint Limbaugh as anti-military is about as absurd as calling John Edwards a friend of all OBGYN's! "

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Pippy Longstocking wrote on Nov 16, 2007 6:02 PM:

" Billy R, You obviously are lacking something? All your rambling attempts to be funny say nothing to the issue being discussed, as typical liberals do. The point is Gore just like this cause is a fake. In ten years the planet will be too cold or wet. We'll go from green to brown if we listen and believe you guys. "

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Pippy Longstocking wrote on Nov 16, 2007 4:01 PM:

" Misleading Historian, my previous post is the transcript, verbatim. Nobody interupted a statement to interject as you spouted. Just like Gore you people cant handle differing views, you twist and delete and alter facts to fit your agenda. Try something new, TRUTH, HONESTY, FACTUAL REPRESENTATION. You might learn something "

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Pippy Longstocking wrote on Nov 16, 2007 3:58 PM:

" RUSH: It's not possible intellectually to follow these people. CALLER: No, it's not. And what's really funny is they never talk to real soldiers. They pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and spout to the media. RUSH: The phony soldiers. CALLER: Phony soldiers. If you talk to any real soldier and they're proud to serve, they want to be over in Iraq, they understand their sacrifice and they're willing to sacrifice for the country. "

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John Brown wrote on Nov 16, 2007 3:26 PM:

" So Leonard you want to debate someone that's rich!!if your going to debate anyone you have to rid your self of Bush Derangement Syndrome!!! you folks are so full of hate you can't think for your self...George Soros and company have you march and shoot their way How's it feel to be a hack for Moveon.org and the daily kos... "

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John Brown wrote on Nov 16, 2007 3:10 PM:

" How the war and Rush got over here blows my mind...What Rush was refering to was Jim Massey,Jesse MacBeth, Micah Ian Wright and Scott Thomas Beauchamps all have told out right lies made false claims and have been busted by the Military and the AP..I dont listen to Rush,I like Dennis Miller my self.All of the above was reported on Military blogs, you know the GRUNTS, the guys actually doing the work... "

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Billy Rubin wrote on Nov 16, 2007 1:07 PM:

" The citizens of this once-great country must be united! They must agree or they must be silenced! "

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Billy Rubin wrote on Nov 16, 2007 1:06 PM:

" Right you are, Pippy Longstocking! Those lefties can't form their own opinions; not like us conservatives. We Republicans have an expansive and strict platform of opinions that we all share with no variation - and if we don't have an opinion on a topic, one will be provided to us by a caring and trustworthy GOP leader or church spokesman! See, there is no reason to allow lefties to form some jumbled-up opinion on their own, or let them get away without an official, sanctioned opinion! "

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Leonard wrote on Nov 16, 2007 11:56 AM:

" Pip: Chuckle.... when you cons start forming your own opinions, you can demonstrate your new found freedom of thought by posting them. Until then, we will just have to make do with your monotonous c&p jobs. "

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Leonard wrote on Nov 16, 2007 11:55 AM:

" Pip: As far as cut and paste goes, if I am talking to Brian, I am interested in hearing Brian's opinions. The opinions of a third party like Medved are irrelevant. If Brian happens to agree with Medved, the least he can do is to put his opinions into his own words. "

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Pippy cont'd wrote on Nov 16, 2007 10:26 AM:

" It is because you lefties are the ones who cant form your own opinions, you live to make everyone equally destitute and dependant not only financially but ideally. Like I said before you state your opinion as fact and if anyone disagrees you shout them down with insults or factless charges. You are no different than what you claim your opposition is. "

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Pippy Longstocking wrote on Nov 16, 2007 10:21 AM:

" Lenny, You are cowardly in dodging the questions. If you are willing to dismiss the "cut and paste comments" tell me why? You are conveniently sidestepping the points. You have previously cited issues puked out from left leaning info blogs and hold them as gospel. Why are we as conservatives not allowed the same benefits? "

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An Honest Historian wrote on Nov 16, 2007 9:28 AM:

" During the September 26, 2007 broadcast of Limbaugh's radio show, he used the term "phony soldiers".A caller said,"They never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and spout to the media." Limbaugh interrupted, "The phony soldiers."The caller continued, "The phony soldiers. If you talk to a real soldier, they are proud to serve. They want to be over in Iraq."In other words, Rush said that anyone who didn't agree with the NeoCon Party line was a "phony soldier"No amount of after the fact back peddling can change that fact. "

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historian wrote on Nov 16, 2007 9:09 AM:

" Eek: You are completely ignorant about Limbaugh. He was referring to some "phony soldiers" who claimed to be in Iraq, who never were! He is the no. 1 listened to program on Armed Forces Radio! "

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I Hate Democrtats wrote on Nov 16, 2007 6:25 AM:

" Send them all to the Camps! "

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Leonard wrote on Nov 15, 2007 8:10 PM:

" As for Eek, I don't see any shouting or spinning in his posts. He simply pointed out that Rush Limbaugh is a drug addict, a fact that even Rush has admitted in court documents. "

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Leonard wrote on Nov 15, 2007 8:08 PM:

" Pippy: I am not sure what you are talking about. Brian, himself, did not make any points. If Medved was posting on this blog, I would debate him but I will not respond to a conservative who is cutting and pasting because he is either incapable of forming his own opinions or is simply too lazy to do so. "

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Pippy Longstocking wrote on Nov 15, 2007 4:49 PM:

" Eek, why the hate? Must you become another bastard stepchild of the left who pukes rhetoric and nothing else? You crazies spout your half baked spin and then just shout alternative views down. The more insulting you become, the closer to the truth I know we are! "

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eek wrote on Nov 15, 2007 1:23 PM:

" Brian: just thought I would call you on it. "

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eek wrote on Nov 15, 2007 1:23 PM:

" In addition, while discussing the "phony soldiers", Rush staed "I am going to challenge the patriotism of people who disagree with him (the President) because the people that disagree with him want to lose." "

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eek wrote on Nov 15, 2007 1:22 PM:

" Brian: Among other ignorant comments made by the drug-addict Limbaugh (who supports locking up drug-addicts in jail and throwing away the key), he said service members who support a US withdrawl from Iraq are "phony soldiers". When one of the "phony soldiers" tried to call Limbaugh out on it, cowardly Rush refused to meet with him to discuss it. "

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Pippy Longstocking wrote on Nov 15, 2007 11:47 AM:

" Lenny, No,No,No. Your post on the 14th answers nothing Brian brought up. It only insults his intelligence. Regardless of the source of his info, since you purport to be a far superior intellectual spokesman for the left, lets hear it, without insults, answers his questions without using moveon.org or moveamerica. Just another hypocrit. "

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Billy Rubin wrote on Nov 14, 2007 5:40 AM:

" And another score that proves Brian is right, there is no price that can be put on our security. NONE! Now that we hear the war has cost 1.5 trillion dollars and the debt will never, ever be paid, we must now double it, quadruple it, because there IS no limit. So what if each American owes 6.75 million dollars? Or if 3,400,000 Americans ultimately die in Iraq - our country is safe! Thanks to George W. Bush! "

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Billy Rubin wrote on Nov 14, 2007 5:35 AM:

" Our super patriot from Arizona is, as always, right! Liberal Hollywood wants nothing more than to see the USA destroyed and will not be happy until the actors and studio heads are walking around in burquas. That absolutely is what they all want. High-five, Brian. "

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Leonard wrote on Nov 14, 2007 5:01 AM:

" Brian: An excellent cut and paste regurgitation of Medved but why don't you get back to us when you are capable of formulating your own opinions instead of simply repeating what you have been told to think? Further demonstrations of your personal intellectual inadequacy are quite unnecessary. "

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Brian wrote on Nov 13, 2007 8:49 PM:

" "This is what many people in the movie industry don't get: When you express hostility to conservatives, many Americans feel that you're expressing hostility to them." "

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Brian wrote on Nov 13, 2007 8:49 PM:

" You can date the recent box-office decline from the end of the summer last year, with the intensification of the presidential campaign," notes conservative film critic and talk-radio host Michael Medved. "It wasn't just Hollywood's hostility toward President Bush; it was the naked, raw partisanship." If even one in 10 Bush voters boycotted Hollywood after hearing the latest Tim Robbins anti-Bush diatribe or seeing yet another big-screen conservative villain (like the Dick Cheney look-alike who nearly destroyed the world in last year's "The Day After Tomorrow"), it would add up to 6 million fewer viewers. "

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Brian wrote on Nov 13, 2007 8:32 PM:

" Leonard, Are you saying that the war in Iraq has cast such a large shadow on the military as a whole that you would give Hollywood a pass to degrade the whole military? You must really hate Bush to stoop so low as agree with Hollywoods position. I wonder how your vet friends feel about this? "

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Brian wrote on Nov 13, 2007 8:26 PM:

" Leonard, Site me a movie that glorifies our troops. Even you are smart enough to realize how liberal Hollywood is. The handful of these people are an exception. Even the less informed individual knows how Hollywood leans to the left. It would be dangerous for a conservative to speak his mind in any given situation around the Hollywood Elites. What planet are you from? "

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Pippy Longstocking wrote on Nov 13, 2007 5:09 PM:

" The author states there is a rational debate going on? What I have seen is the Left Screaming their view and then screaming louder when it is opposed. No objectivity, no debate, just misinformation. The proponents of GWarming cant debate because their backround is mainly conjecture and speculation. Lenny, have your left leaning bretheren just stop farting, problem solved. "

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Leonard wrote on Nov 13, 2007 5:01 PM:

" Ironically, almost all of the elected officials to come out of Hollywood have been Republicans. Sonny Bono, Arnold Schwarzenhegger, Fred Grandy, Ronald Reagan, Fred Thompson, the list goes on and on. Liberal Hollywood? "

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Leonard wrote on Nov 13, 2007 1:21 PM:

" Brian: Hollywood's portrayal of individual soldiers has been, for the most part, positive. Hollywood's portrayal of the Iraq War and the criminally incompetent leadership that precipitated it has been accurate. Bush's War is no WWII. "

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Brian wrote on Nov 13, 2007 8:33 AM:

" Could it be that Hollywood is unhappy seeing all the money going into defense contracts that doesn't makes its way to the ticket booth? This may explain why they hate our military so much. "

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Brian wrote on Nov 13, 2007 8:27 AM:

" It seems to me Hollywood is in a good position to cast a good light on our military. Unlike the countless movies glorifying our military during WWII, Hollywood has chosen to take the road of villaininzing our military lately. The Hollywood elites advocate a loss in Iraq. And so too do they advocate a Democratic president to further their agenda. Hollywood=America Haters "

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Brian wrote on Nov 13, 2007 8:21 AM:

" Leonard, I'll be the first to tell you I told you so when a Democrat gets elected president and he or she takes on the job of dimantling our military not seen since the Clinton era. This will compromise our national security. I will then ask you which party has the animosity. Clinton Era II? I hope not. "

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Pippy Longstocking wrote on Nov 13, 2007 8:14 AM:

" Leornard: As of this date I will now count the number of times you use slurs, insults and desparaging words toward your critics in your posts. I will post them for you to see you cant make a point without them. Focus on the issue Lenny, Gore is a fake and the poster boy for hypocricy! "

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Cogito wrote on Nov 13, 2007 8:00 AM:

" "Caobon offsets" are a joke. I guess it's O.K. to keep up your usual lifestyle of using up the planet if you've got the money to make yourself feel good. It's analogous to stomping puppies to death, then saying, "it's O.K. because I pay someone to breed more puppies". "

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Brian wrote on Nov 13, 2007 7:40 AM:

" Leonard, I have yet to see anyone from the right advocating animosity for our troops. In fact, those on the left are abvocating all the animosity. This is clear to me when I see all the anti-war/military movies coming out of Hollywood. Not one mainstream movie from Hollywood has glorified our trrops since 911. "

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Brian wrote on Nov 13, 2007 7:34 AM:

" The Dems are in a position they never thought they would be 9 months ago which is trying to end a war that has become very successful from a US standpoint.They were totally invested in defeat.They denounced Petreaus as a traitor in the face of early success in the surge.They tried whining about the central government still being a failure as a fall back position.But there's been so much progress in the tribal areas that that has become irrelavant. "

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j lawrence endicott wrote on Nov 12, 2007 7:11 PM:

" The ignorance of most of you bloggers is a perpetual source of befuddlement to me. On this topic there are many specialists for both sides. Gore is the least educated, the least knowledgeable, the least read, the least skilled of all of them. What are you simpletons thinking? Go back to Gobal freezing in 1976, the Y2K scare, the population explosion, underground bomb shelters in the 1950's. There will always be a nitwit to follow. "

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historian wrote on Nov 12, 2007 6:52 PM:

" Excuse me, Ivan. I thought your name was "Arrogance." By the way, monorails at Disneyland do not "revolve." "

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Leonard wrote on Nov 12, 2007 6:39 PM:

" I hate economic downturns. Should I attack the Chairman of the Fed personally because he says that we are about to enter a downturn? "

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Leonard wrote on Nov 12, 2007 6:37 PM:

" Al Gore is a person. Global Warming is a global phenomenon. Attack the messenger if it makes you feel better but the facts remain and nothing you say about Gore is going to make them change. "

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Cogito wrote on Nov 12, 2007 5:10 PM:

" How can someone follow anything Al Gore stands for and not "think" he's an idiot? As far as the military and Gore goes, remember in the 2000 election when he tried to make thousands of military personnel votes not count! He wanted to disenfranchise a group of Americans who sacrifice the most for their country. Because he knew those votes would go overwhelmingly to the Republicans. That should tell you all you need to know about this mans character, or ,more precisely, lack of it! "

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Carbon Footprint wrote on Nov 12, 2007 1:34 PM:

" Al Gore's house uses 20 times the normal home in energy. He drives big SUV's when he travels. He burns more jet fuel than most small airlines. And he ownes a large stake in the company which you and I can buy carbon offsets for the energy we use. WAKE UP PEOPLE...HE'S A FAKE, RIP-OFF, LYING *&%^%$. "

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Ivan Dixon to Skeptic wrote on Nov 12, 2007 1:07 PM:

" My name, by the way, is Ivan. You can either call me Ivan or Mr Dixon. Given the fact that you are a science loving, Round Earth believing, liberal media dupe, I would prefer that you address me as Mr. Dixon. "

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Ivan Dixon to Skeptic wrote on Nov 12, 2007 1:05 PM:

" The sun revolves around the Earth much in the same way that the monorail revolves around Disneyland. Would you suggest that Disneyland is a globe? Obviously, science and the liberal media have rotted your mind. "

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historian wrote on Nov 12, 2007 12:06 PM:

" Way the twist the facts, Leonard. So much for your "objective" analysis. I was in the service for over 26 years. Ask any active serviceman and you'll find 80% would rather have GWB than any "let's chat our way out of hell" and "blame America first" wus on the left. "

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Cogito wrote on Nov 12, 2007 10:46 AM:

" The simple truth is, scientists making a living from grant money is the second oldest profession. Like the first, it requires one to compromise ones integrity for the money. Opportunists like Al Gore use them to fool the fools into giving themselves some cache. The money spent on the pro warming side absolutely dwarfs the money spent on the other. So sell out scientists just follow the money. "

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Leonard wrote on Nov 12, 2007 8:17 AM:

" Brian: Chicken hawks like yourself are great at sending others off to die but you don't want to have anything to do with them when they inconveniently come back alive and they need costly care. These brave men and women are NOT disposable people. They are heroes and they deserve to be treated as such. "

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Leonard wrote on Nov 12, 2007 8:16 AM:

" Brian: The general animosity of the Right towards Vets is well known. The Bush Administration and their allies in Congress have consistently voted against expansion of Vet benefits. The result is nightmares like the Walter Reed Fiasco and now a swelling number of homeless vets as wounded and mentally traumatized heroes are dumped out of the ranks and onto the streets. "

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Skeptic wrote on Nov 12, 2007 8:14 AM:

" Naw. George W. is nothin' compared to Al Gore's interest in Occidental Petroleum. You guys set the belief system. I'll keep making the money. Buy the way, if you guys can tell me what the next eco-fad will be by 2010, I'd like to know now. I want to get in on the ground floor. Thanks. "

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historrian wrote on Nov 12, 2007 8:09 AM:

" Hey, Dixon. Which is it? You say the Earth was flat but the "sun revolved around it." How does the sun "revolve" around a flat Earth? "

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Leonard wrote on Nov 12, 2007 8:05 AM:

" Brian: You yourself have often implied on these blogs that soldiers who do not agree with the Bush Administration are cowardly and unpatriotic. This is a standard talking point for conservatives and a personal favorite of Rush Limbaugh (the leading GOP drug addict and Chicken Hawk). You and your conservative friends are going to have to learn that you can't just make despicable statements like this and then walk away from them. "

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Brian wrote on Nov 12, 2007 6:47 AM:

" eek, your remark about Rush is typical from someone on the left. It's actually those from the left that call our soldiers fighting the war in Iraq cowards and unpatriotic. It would be unrealistic to accuse Rush of doing this so they have to make up something with the hopes that it will be an effective way of distracting those from what has been actually said. It is well known the contempt US troops have for Hillary because of her contempt for them. "

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Brian wrote on Nov 12, 2007 6:34 AM:

" eek, Rush never said US soldiers against the Iraq war are cowards and unpatriotic. You're entitled to have an opinion on Rush. However, I won't let this tripe slip by without calling you on it. "

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Leonard wrote on Nov 12, 2007 6:02 AM:

" Septic: If you have been making money off of oil stocks, the real GW you should be thanking is George W. The deregulation, fat cat corporate welfare and out and out giveaways that the Bush Administration has tithed to Big Oil essentially amounts to a governmental subsidy, all given at a time when the Oil Companies are raping consumers at the pump on a daily basis. "

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Leonard wrote on Nov 12, 2007 5:58 AM:

" If anyone needs a reminder of why the California has opposed offshore drilling for decades, they only need look as far as the dead birds that are being pulled out of the Bay. In the global scheme of things, the reserves off the shores of California are minuscule. At the most, they might power the US for a couple of weeks. Still, some idiots are willing to jeopardize the BILLIONS of dollars that California makes every year on coastal tourism, just to make a couple more bucks for big oil. Idiots.... "

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Real Conservative wrote on Nov 12, 2007 12:27 AM:

" Joe McCarthy was a homosexual and a drunk who set the GOP back twenty years. "

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go eagles wrote on Nov 11, 2007 8:55 PM:

" go eagles "

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Chuck wrote on Nov 11, 2007 8:32 PM:

" To nylodian.. they are NOT the same as soldiers, they are more likened to cab drivers and cashiers... "

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Ivan Dixon to Historian wrote on Nov 11, 2007 4:43 PM:

" And that is the worst part. Today, five hundred years later, even seemingly right minded individuals like yourself believe the Round Earth Lie. All because some pointy headed alchemist wanted to make a name for himself. And just look at the cost!!! Every year thousands of sailors and billions of dollars worth of goods are lost from falling off the edge. I urge you Historian to apply the same acumen you have used on global warming to this issue and to thus reject the Round Earth Lie. "

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r80ant wrote on Nov 11, 2007 8:51 AM:

" Mr.Gore is trying to get the people of America to think? Would someone please tell Al he should set his sights on more attainable goals like dropping a few pounds. "

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Skeptic wrote on Nov 11, 2007 8:46 AM:

" I owe all you GW believers an apology. When I opened my stock portfolio this weekend, I realized I had made a fortune this year in oil stocks -all because do-gooders created a shortage by not allowing U.S. on and off shore drilling. The Chinese are going to do our off shore instead. Thank you, Thank you!! I am now a true believer. "

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historian wrote on Nov 10, 2007 6:32 PM:

" Check your REAL history. The "flat Earth" thing was a myth you were taught in school. They also told you that Joe McCarty was a nut because he said Hollywood was full of commies. He got that one wrong -right? "

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Leonard wrote on Nov 10, 2007 2:15 PM:

" Danny: So, if you reject grant funded science(which constitutes 99.999% of the research done at Universities in the US), what sort of scientific research DO you find acceptable? Panhandling funded research? "

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nylodian wrote on Nov 10, 2007 12:38 PM:

" Chuck: yes, they are doing a job that involves them risking life and limb for others, exactly like - to a lesser degree - SOLDIERS. "

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Daniel wrote on Nov 10, 2007 10:55 AM:

" eek: Realistically, follow the money, but more realistically, follow political power, which brings unlimited supply of money. Grant-funding is politics, not science. It is good that you want to know where the money is going. "

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Ivan Dixon to Historian wrote on Nov 10, 2007 10:23 AM:

" You got that right my friend. Just look at history. The pointy headed scientists types said the world was round but the Skeptics knew it was flat and look... they were right! Then the Al Gores of the Renaissance said that the Earth rotated around the sun but the Skeptics knew that the Sun rotated around the Earth and, low and behold, they were right again! When will these people finally learn that new ideas are always wrong??? "

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historian wrote on Nov 10, 2007 8:22 AM:

" He's the historical score card guys: Whether it's UFO's, global warming, or return of messiah figures - Skeptics: 100%, True Believers: 0. End of discussion. "

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Skeptic wrote on Nov 10, 2007 8:17 AM:

" Hey, EEK. You're missing the boat!Haven't you noticed that many of the evil corporations are now coming out in favor of GW? I'm putting in my application for government funds. I already have my anonymous "peer reviewers" lined up. You need to get on the gravy train too! "

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steward wrote on Nov 10, 2007 7:15 AM:

" I saw this on 20/20, maybe it could be taken into consideration for this debate. 20/20 Stossel-GMAB, it's on "You Tube". The saddest part of this debate is how these children, shown on 20/20 are scared to "die". Just watch the segment if you want, no pressure. "

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Salvation wrote on Nov 9, 2007 7:09 PM:

" Listen to the WISDOM of Michael Savage of the SAVAGE NATION! "

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Droodle to Chuck wrote on Nov 9, 2007 6:30 PM:

" You are my hero! "

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Transplant wrote on Nov 9, 2007 3:52 PM:

" C'mon folks. Please read and think critically about Billy Rubin's comments. Don't they seem a little over the top in their conservative bent? Could it be that he is being tongue-in-cheek? "

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Chuck wrote on Nov 9, 2007 3:36 PM:

" nylodian, just for the record.. Police and firefighters are NOT hero's they are just men and woman doing a job.. Only soldiers are the "real" heros.. "

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nylodian wrote on Nov 9, 2007 2:51 PM:

" Billy R: Rush is a true American HERO? And here I thought the soldiers who risk give their lives for our Freedom were heros. I thought police and firefighters who risk their lives saving others were heros. Thanks for setting me straight. "

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eek wrote on Nov 9, 2007 1:35 PM:

" Claiming grant funded scientists are making global warming up for profits is a kin to the Chicken Hawks, like Rush Limbaugh out there, who have never seen battle, stating our US soldiers who oppose the Iraq war are cowards and unpatriotic. Give me a break. It's really pathetic. "

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eek wrote on Nov 9, 2007 1:32 PM:

" Let's demand a financial audit of grant funded ecologists, biologists, etc. studying climate change in relation to combustion polution and those receiving checks from special interest groups saying global warming is a hoax in order to see whose making the profits. I know which groups I would place my bets on. "

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eek wrote on Nov 9, 2007 1:28 PM:

" Skeptic: are you kidding? Do you know how much special interest groups are paying rogue politicians and researchers to say global warming isn't true? At least government grant recipients are peer-reviewed and published scientific methods and findings for others to analyze and interpret. That's more than can be said than those receiving behind the scenes checks from oil companies. "

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Billy Rubin wrote on Nov 9, 2007 12:43 PM:

" John Brown is oh, so right! Until China stops polluting there is no reason at all for us to stop polluting! George W. Bush must enact tough new laws now that will stop this warming hype nonsense in its tracks. If he doesn't shut this down it's going to have an impact on our national institutions like Wal*Mart and I don't want to pay more for my XMas gifts. "

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Skeptic wrote on Nov 9, 2007 11:26 AM:

" Hey, you guys. Quit fighting these global warming true believers. Don't you realize there is plenty of money to be made by playing this game? The government is handing out grants and tax credits like candy. I'm going to get on that gravy train and I'll be living in Malibu with the stars too! Yep. Global warming is real! "

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Leonard wrote on Nov 9, 2007 11:05 AM:

" JB: So what? Well, if you come from a political culture in which it is normal to simply think what you are told to think instead of forming your own opinions, not much. I only mentioned your cut and paste jobs because they so perfectly illustrate the conservative no-nothing attitude that turns seemingly self aware individuals like yourself into political drones. "

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John Brown wrote on Nov 9, 2007 10:50 AM:

" SO Leonard is that enough for you,if coleman dosen't do it for you try this fellow out, Joe Bastardi, leading expert of hurricanes and long-range forecasting. That was a cut and paste! He has PHd is that good enough for you. He also thinks Gore is a little lite in the Brain department,thats the only place he is lite... "

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John Brown wrote on Nov 9, 2007 10:34 AM:

" I also know if China and India don't change what we do here wont amount to squat.I know that the Vikings grew food crops in greenland.I also know that Scripps Institution has tree ring studies showing that droughts have lasted over 25 years in california.The last one in 1972-73 I know that back in 63-64 Shasta dam was low enough to take 2-3 years to fill that december it spilled over... "

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Billy Rubin wrote on Nov 9, 2007 10:31 AM:

" Daniel, you may not know, but I have been a proud ditto head since Rush was at KFBK in Sacramento. He is a true conservative and I would put his checkbook against your homemade soap checkbook any day. You cannot get as rich as Rush Lindbough by being wishy washy. Rush is a true American hero and only he can tell the truth because he doesn't need more money. "

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John Brown wrote on Nov 9, 2007 10:16 AM:

" John Brown: Do you normally paste your posts word for word from conservative websites like Newsbusters.com So what!! They pointed to ICECAP.Which is not a conservitive site.I know Gore won't debate,no guts!I know 6 times since the late 1800's the press has been hyping Global warming or the coming Ice age. Last ice age forcast 1974,where did it go... "

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Dummy-U wrote on Nov 9, 2007 9:38 AM:

" I invented Iraqi WMDs! "

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Terry wrote on Nov 9, 2007 7:04 AM:

" Other than being a TV weatherman with really bad hair, what are Coleman's scientific credentials? "

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Daniel wrote on Nov 8, 2007 8:45 PM:

" Billy Rubin: I didn't read your material very much, but I couldn't help but notice a red flashing light on your Rush Limbaugh post. Having studied political corruption for 18 years, I can assure you with all my confidence that Rush Limbaugh is WRONG, and he actually does harm to true conservatives. Rush is a neo-conservative. I'm not trying to be offensive, just inform you of the truth about Rush. "

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Daniel wrote on Nov 8, 2007 8:42 PM:

" NSN Lodian: Your arguing with Leonard about GW, is like me arguing with you about fraudulent CIF charges against Franklin. He can give you a belligerent response, and so can you. Think about it. Next time he tells you ROTFLMAO at you, or accuse you of being in the John Birch Society, or in the Red Chinese, you can ask yourself if you are behaving the same way talking to me on the other blog column. "

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Daniel wrote on Nov 8, 2007 8:40 PM:

" NSN Lodian: You must be new to these blogs. Leonard can easily generate 100 blogs in 10 days. No matter how hard you work talk common sense with him about global warming, you will never get through his skull. I have even accused him of being on a payroll to oppose GW deniers. Leonard will always find a way to respond to anything you throw at him. "

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Chuck wrote on Nov 8, 2007 7:27 PM:

" Al Gore... " I invented pants"... "

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Leonard wrote on Nov 8, 2007 7:17 PM:

" Does anyone know what Coleman's educational background is? I have seen some bloggers claiming that he dropped out of college after his freshman year but I can't find anything official. Did he actually get an undergraduate degree? As far as I can see, he is just a slightly better known version of old Stormin Norman from Channel 40. "

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Leonard wrote on Nov 8, 2007 7:10 PM:

" John Brown: Do you normally paste your posts word for word from conservative websites like Newsbusters.com? I wonder, are you actually incapable of individual thought or are you simply to lazy to form your own opinions? "

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John Brown wrote on Nov 8, 2007 6:57 PM:

" Factoid,A link to ICECAP... for your reading pleasure!!! http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/comments_about_global_warming/ "

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John Brown wrote on Nov 8, 2007 4:58 PM:

" Check this out for a grin... If the founder of The Weather Channel spoke out strongly against the manmade global warming myth, might media members notice? We're going to find out the answer to that question soon, for John Coleman wrote an article published at ICECAP Wednesday that should certainly garner attention from press members -- assuming journalism hasn't been completely replaced by propagandist activism, that is. "

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Vito wrote on Nov 8, 2007 1:39 PM:

" During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system "

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AG wrote on Nov 8, 2007 11:41 AM:

" During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. "

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Vito wrote on Nov 8, 2007 11:09 AM:

" What Al Gore ACTUALLY said was that he sponsored the legislation that made the civilian internet possible which is absolutely true. It was Rush Limbaugh (undoubtedly in the midst of a drug induced stupor) who came up with the "invented" claim. "

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Dr Coles wrote on Nov 8, 2007 11:01 AM:

" UK court says Gore is a fraud. August 2007 Update: Man-made Catastrophic Global Warming Not True. Unfortunately, Hansen is a political hack of George Soros. Further, flawed NASA Global Warming data paid for by George Soros. In order to be an intelligent reader you must have a basic knowledge. Please do your own homework; a starting point http://www.InteliOrg.com/ "

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Billy Rubin wrote on Nov 8, 2007 9:09 AM:

" Well I for one do believe Rush Limbough. Success like his amounts to something and you don't get that rich making stuff up. I've never been steered wrong by Rush. Except I did have to cut back on his recommended doseage of Oxycontin. I tried following his advice but found my hearing deteriorating. Everything else he says is true. "

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etc. wrote on Nov 8, 2007 9:03 AM:

" June 24, 1974, Time Magazine article titled, "Another Ice Age", global cooling is to blame. March 26, 2006, Time Magazine article titled, "Be worried, be very worried climate is crashing", global warming is to blame. Huh? "

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I believe wrote on Nov 8, 2007 8:35 AM:

" Al Gore invented the internet! so why wouldn't I believe any other garbage he says? He worships himself and creation...he needs help. "

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nylodian wrote on Nov 8, 2007 7:15 AM:

" Eek: I totally agree with your posts. I can see Lake Ontario from my house, which is at the lowest level any lifetime residents recall. I too get tired of all the trash left on the beach, the pollution dumped in the water, and the impact of the irresponsible boaters and fishers have on the wildlife around here. It's too bad people can't get past the politics. "

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lfmorgan wrote on Nov 8, 2007 5:14 AM:

" and at 83 I am an industrial systems enginneer and scientist who knows Education Beyound One's Intelligence is absolutely rampant in the world and direly threatening our joint continued existence on this naturally dying planet, we are now totally lost until a tiny few of our best can Space Ark to find and build a better world-- to maybe seed the entire universe for a better try at immortality of excellence in science. You & Gore are NOT it! "

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Billy Rubin wrote on Nov 7, 2007 10:40 PM:

" reposting Al gore dribble is all baloney. The world hasn't changed, it feels just as cold today as it felt last year. Global warming would feel nicer in the mornings and no fog. On Fox they said there is no global warming and they had Washington scientists on with graphs to prove it. You can't argue against proof like that. The President is going to have to make a law banning this talk about global warming. What does Pat Robertson or Oral Roberts say about it? They would know. "

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Leonard wrote on Nov 7, 2007 5:09 PM:

" NSN, you may believe whatever Rush Limbaugh tells you to believe but the rest of us prefer to form our own opinions and write our own posts. "

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Leonard wrote on Nov 7, 2007 5:08 PM:

" ROTFLMAO!!! I have no doubt that NSN has mastered the use of the cut and paste function but does anyone here really believe that this knucklehead actually knows what "thermohaline circulation" is? "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 7, 2007 2:48 PM:

" Billy: You OBVIOUSLY did not read what I posted, or did not understand..... I am REBUTTING Al Gore's claims because most of what he says in his movie is INACCURATE at best, and OUTRIGHT LIES at worst. I am in no way advocating his point of view. "

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To NSN lodian wrote on Nov 7, 2007 1:48 PM:

" Raed my post- "Republican for Gore". I will vote for Gore- JUST to watch Hillary eating Tipper baked cookies in the WHITE HOUSE. I want to see Tipper Gore ( A REAL first LADY) serve tea to the ladies and invite Hillary the WOMYN (PC liberals are not allowed to spell it woMAN). Hillary won't know what to do. My suggestion, bake some cookies! LOL ROFL! YES---I am womyn here me SCREAM. Yessss! very nice indeed. Al is so full of hot air nothing is going to happen! "

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Billy Rubin wrote on Nov 7, 2007 1:04 PM:

" NSN Lodian, you are wasting time quoting Al Gore, nobody cares what gore thinks anymore he lost the election. You should be quoting our president George W. Bush who has the full mandate of the people. Only He understands the stability of God's earth and puny man's inability to change it. President Bush must stop this green jabber we are all subjected to on the TV and have His scientists tell us The Truth. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 7, 2007 12:03 AM:

" Frank... analyze the data all you want, then use your common sense to draw your conclusions. See below .... "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 7, 2007 12:01 AM:

" Following are the 35 "Inconvenient UnTruths" of Al Gore's movie... according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) (http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html) "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:59 PM:

" Gore Claim #1: global warming is caused by man... THE TRUTH: Global warming cycles have occured during, and long before, man inhabited the earth. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:58 PM:

" Gore Claim #2: the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide will rise to more than 600 parts per million by volume as soon as 2050 is “not controversial in any way or in dispute by anybody"... THE TRUTH: not one of the half-dozen official projections of growth in CO2 concentration made by the IPCC shows as much as 600 parts per million by 2050. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:57 PM:

" Gore Claim #3b: the film shows spectacular footage of a glacier apparently calving off enormous slabs of ice into the sea. The glacier shown is in Argentina, and is growing (not melting) at such a rapid pace that it dams Lake Argentino. The build up of water pressure eventually bursts the glacier, causing the spectacular calving. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:55 PM:

" Gore Claim #3a: In Gore's movie, there if a scene where the Pied Flycatcher birds (mentioned in Claim #4) are shown feeding their hungry chicks... THE TRUTH: the birds shown are not Pied Flychatchers, but Black Terns. The bird is not carrying a caterpillar in her beak, but a small fish. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:52 PM:

" Gore Claim #4: The peak arrival date for migratory birds 25 years ago was April 25. Chicks hatched on June 3 just as caterpillars were coming out as a food source. Now caterpillars peak two weeks earlier. The chicks tried to catch up with it, but they couldn’t. So they are in trouble.. THE TRUTH: It has been proven time and time again that nature adapts to such changes. The problem will likely be solved when the birds fly another 20 miles north and adjust for the misaligned timing. "Nature finds a way" "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:49 PM:

" Gore Claim #5: A couple of years ago in Europe they had that heat wave that killed 35,000 (implying global warming as the cause)... THE TRUTH: the scientific consensus is that extreme warm anomalies that are more unusual than the 2003 heat wave occur regularly; extreme cold anomalies also occur regularly. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:47 PM:

" Gore Claim #6: Gore describes carbon dioxide as “global warming pollution"... THE TRUTH: CO2 is food for plants and trees. Plants can flourish in concentrations 30 times those of the present day. Well-managed forests in the US are growing at record rates because of the extra carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Half a billion years ago CO2 levels were at 7000 parts per million by volume, about 18 times today’s concentration. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:44 PM:

" Gore Claim #7: West Nile virus spread throughout the US in just two years, implicitly because of global warming... THE TRUTH: The climate in the US ranges from some of the world’s hottest deserts to some of its iciest tundra. West Nile virus flourishes in any climate. Warming of the climate does not affect its incidence or prevalence. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:43 PM:

" Gore Claim #8: global warming is causing outbreaks dengue fever, Lyme disease, West Nile virus, arena virus, avian flu, Ebola virus, and other diseases... THE TRUTH: None of the diseases named by Gore in his film or in the accompanying book, is sensitive to increasing temperature. They are spread not by warmer weather but by rats, chickens, primates, pigs, poor hygiene, ill-maintained air conditioning, or cold weather. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:41 PM:

" Gore Claim #9: because of “global warming”, mosquitoes are climbing to higher altitudes and causing outbreaks of malaria... THE TRUTH: Malaria is not a tropical disease. Mosquitos need no more than 15 degrees Celsius to breed. The largest malaria outbreak of modern times was in Siberia in the 1920s and 1930s, when 13 million were infected, 600,000 died and 30,000 died as far north as Arkhangelsk, on the Arctic Circle. "

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Daniel wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:40 PM:

" Killio: Ditto. "

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Daniel wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:39 PM:

" Billy Rubin: I don't know where you came from, but I hope you stick around. We need you here. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:39 PM:

" Gore Claim #10: the Larsen B ice shelf completely disappeared in 35 days due to global warming... THE TRUTH: there has been extensive ice-shelf break-up throughout the past 10,000 years, the most significant of which likely occured during the "Little Ice Age" of the late 15th century.. long before man-made carbon dioxide was an issue. "

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Daniel wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:39 PM:

" Billy Rubin: George Bush is loyal to the CFR agenda to liquidate the border. Although he never makes any sense when he talks, his policies promote partnership with and membership in a strategy to unify north America economically and legally. Conversely, Ron Paul is demonstrating a campaign platform that represents the Republicans publicly declared platform. He makes reference to the campaign platform of Ronald Reagan, which he promotes as the true Republican platform. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:37 PM:

" Gore Claim #11: half a dozen ice shelves each “larger than Rhode Island” have broken up and vanished from the Antarctic Peninsula recently, implying global warming... THE TRUTH: ice shelves have melted throughout history as studies of seabed sediments have shown. The Antarctic Peninsula accounts for 2% of the continent, in most of which the ice is growing thicker. All the recently-melted shelves, added together, amount to an area less than 1/55th the size of Texas. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:34 PM:

" Gore Claim #12: disturbing changes have been measured under the West Antarctic ice sheet, implying global warming... THE TRUTH: In most of Antarctica, the ice is growing thicker. Mean temperature has actually fallen throughout the past half-century. In some Antarctic glens, environmental damage has been caused by temperature DECREASES of up to 2 degrees Celsius. Antarctic sea-ice spread to a 30-year record extent in late 2007. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:33 PM:

" Gore Claim #13: terrible tragedies are occurring in the southern Sahara because of drought caused by global warming... THE TRUTH: In 2007 there were record rains across the whole of the southern Sahara. In the past 25 years the Sahara has shrunk by some 300,000 square kilometers because of additional rainfall, not drought. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:31 PM:

" Gore Claim #14: Gore states that "the ice has a story to tell, and it is worldwide” He shows several before-and-after pictures of glaciers disappearing... THE TRUTH: glacial melt began in the 1820s, long before humankind could have had any effect, and has continued at a uniform rate since, showing no acceleration since humankind began increasing the quantity of CO2 in the atmosphere. Total ice volumes in three of the last four Ice Ages were lower than they are today. "

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Daniel wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:31 PM:

" Billy Rubin: I support what you are saying about the GW hoax. May I caution you on the overly gleeful endorsement of the Republican party. Politics is not bi-partisan. Political agenda comes out of the Council on Foreign Relations in New York. Mainly, the CFR agenda is to liquidate America's constitution, and its borders. Posturing and jesturing are only campaign strategies. Both Rep and Dem politicians follow the CFR agenda. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:30 PM:

" Gore Claim #15: a Peruvian glacier is less extensive now than it was in the 1940s, implying global warming as the cause... THE TRUTH: Except for the very highest peaks, the normal state of the Peruvian cordilleras has been ice-free throughout most of the past 10,000 years. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:28 PM:

" Gore Claim #16: 40% of the world’s population get their water supply from Himalayan glacial melt waters that are failing because of global warming... THE TRUTH: The water supply comes almost entirely from snow-melt, not from ice-melt. Over the past 40 years there has been no decline in the amount of snow-melt in Eurasia. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:27 PM:

" Gore Claim #17: global warming” is making the Greenland ice sheet unstable... THE TRUTH: Greenland ice grows 2 inches a year, survived each of the previous three interglacial periods each of which was 5 degrees Celsius warmer than the present, survived atmospheric CO2 concentrations of up to 1000 ppmv (compared with today’s 400 ppmv). It last melted 850,000 years ago, before humankind even existed on this planet. "

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Daniel wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:27 PM:

" eek: Brian is liberal. Liberalism is the destruction of American productivity for a fictitious Chicken Little fairy tale. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:25 PM:

" Gore Claim #18: the Arctic has been warming faster than the rest of the planet... THE TRUTH: the Arctic has been cooling over the past 60 years, and is now one degree Celsius cooler than it was in the 1940s. "

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Daniel wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:25 PM:

" Brian (which one?): Not true. You wrote, "I guess we'll have to contact all the scientists throughout the world." The UN spotlight IPCC report had very limited review from the UN's own scientists. I recall an article entitled, "Peer Review? What Peer Review?" I gave a link to it on the other GW article. I was LOL, busting out lAUGHING, ROTF, that the UN couldn't even get its own pseudo-scientists to review their own docuement, even though the UN had these scientists under its control. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:24 PM:

" Gore Claim #19: ice-melt allows the Sun to heat the Arctic Ocean, and a diagram shows the Sun’s rays heating it directly... THE TRUTH: The ocean emits radiant energy at the moment of absorption, and would freeze if there were no atmosphere. It is the atmosphere, not the Sun that keeps the oceans warm. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:23 PM:

" Gore Claim #20: 2004 set an all-time record for tornadoes in the US... THE TRUTH: More tornadoes are being reported because detection system technology has become exponentially better over time. But the number of severe tornadoes has been falling for more than 50 years. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:22 PM:

" Gore Claim #21: implied that flooding in Mumbai is increasing due to global warming... THE TRUTH: Rainfall trends at the two major weather stations in Mumbai show no increase in heavy rainfall over the past 48 years. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:21 PM:

" Gore Claim #22: insurance losses arising from large storms and other extreme-weather events are increasing, by implication because of global warming... THE TRUTH: Insured losses, as a percentage of the population of coastal areas in the path of hurricanes, were lower even in 2005 than they had been in 1925. In 2006, the insurance carrier Lloyds of London posted their biggest-ever profit: £3.6 billion. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:19 PM:

" Gore Claim #23: scientists had been giving warnings that hurricanes will get stronger because of “global warming"... THE TRUTH: Over the past 60 years there has been no change in the strength of hurricanes, even though hydrocarbon use went up six-fold in the same period. Since Katrina, the hurricane season has yet to spawn a storm of similar power. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:18 PM:

" Gore Claim #24: 2004 set a new record for the number of typhoons striking Japan... THE TRUTH: The trend in the number of typhoons, and of tropical cyclones, has fallen throughout the past 50 years. The trend in rainfall from cyclones has also fallen. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:16 PM:

" Gore Claim #25: Hurricane Caterina, the only hurricane ever to strike the coast of Brazil, was caused by “global warming"... REBUTTAL: In 2004, Brazil’s summer sea surface temperatures were cooler than normal, not warmer. But air temperatures were the coldest in 25 years. The air was so much colder than the water that it caused a heat flux from the water to the air similar to that which fuels hurricanes in warm seas. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:15 PM:

" Gore Claim #26: Gore implies that the difference of just 100 parts per million by volume in CO2 concentration between an interglacial temperature maximum and an ice-age temperature minimum causes “the difference between a nice day and having a mile of ice above your head"... REBUTTAL: the IPCC states that 100 ppmv of increased CO2 concentration, from 180 to 280 ppmv, would increase radiant energy flux in the atmosphere by 2.33 watts per square meter, or less than 1.2 degrees Celsius including the effect of temperature feedbacks. At least 10 times less effect than Gore predicts. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:13 PM:

" Gore Claim #27: coral reefs are “bleaching” because of “global warming"... There was some bleaching in 1998, but this was caused by the exceptional El Nino Southern Oscillation that year. Two similarly severe El Ninos over the past 250 years also caused extensive bleaching. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:12 PM:

" Gore Claim #28: a scientific study shows that polar bears are being killed swimming long distances to find ice that has melted away because of global warming... REBUTTAL: The study that Gore actually sighted (by Monnett & Gleason in 2005), mentioned just four dead bears which had died in an exceptional storm with high winds and waves in the Beaufort Sea. The amount of sea ice in the Beaufort Sea has actually increased over the past 30 years. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:09 PM:

" Gore Claim #29: The devastation of New Orleans by Hurricane Katrina was caused by global warming... REBUTTAL: Construction of a major city, below sea level, and failure of the government (including 8 years of Clinton / Gore) to to heed 30 years of warnings by the Corps of Engineers that the levees and dams that kept New Orleans dry could not stand a direct hit by a major hurricane. (you could say Al had a part in CREATING the New Orleans disaster, for which he now blames his political nest egg - global warming) "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:06 PM:

" Gore Claim #30: global warming dried up Lake Chad in Africa... REBUTTAL: Over-extraction of water and changing agricultural patterns dried the lake, which, according to historical writings, was also dry in 8500BC, 5500BC, 1000BC and 100BC.... long before man was creating massive amounts of CO2. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:05 PM:

" Gore Claim #31: global warming has been melting the snow on Mount Kilimanjaro in Africa... REBUTTAL: The melting of the Furtwangler Glacier at the summit of the mountain began 125 years ago (before man invented cars, Al). More of the glacier had melted before Hemingway wrote The Snows of Kilimanjaro in 1936 than has occured since. The temperature at the summit never falls below freezing. Ice melting is caused by long term climate shifts aided by deforestation. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:02 PM:

" Gore Claim #32: in each of the last four interglacial warm periods it was changes in carbon dioxide concentration that caused changes in temperature... REBUTTAL: Changes in temperature preceded changes in CO2 concentration by between 800 and 2800 years, as scientific papers including the paper on which Gore’s film had relied had made clear. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:01 PM:

" Gore Claim #33: global warming may shut down the thermohaline circulation in the oceans, which he calls the “ocean conveyor,” plunging Europe into an ice age... REBUTTAL: Analyses of ocean observations suggest changes in the thermohaline circulation during the last century are likely the result of natural multidecadal climate variability. Since 1980 a strengthening of thermohaline circulation has been observed. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 10:58 PM:

" Gore Claim #34: low-lying inhabited Pacific coral atolls are already being inundated because of anthropogenic global warming, leading to the evacuation of several island populations... REBUTTAL: only atolls where dynamiting of reefs or over-extraction of fresh water by local populations has caused damage. corals can grow at ten times the predicted rate of increase in sea level. It is not by some accident or coincidence that so many atolls normally reach just a few feet above the ocean surface. "

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NSN Lodian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 10:56 PM:

" Gore Claim #35: a sea-level rise of up to 6 m (20 ft) will be caused by melting of either West Antarctica or Greenland... REBUTTAL: The IPCC says sea-level increases up to 7 m (23 ft) above today’s levels have happened naturally in the past climate "

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Leonard wrote on Nov 6, 2007 7:44 PM:

" Daniel: Funny you should mention the Red Chinese given the fact that your position on climate change mirrors that of the Chinese Communist Party. Coincidence? "

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Republican for Gore II wrote on Nov 6, 2007 7:39 PM:

" Oh it would be a JOY to watch Senator "Hillary the Hips" with that screeching cackle of hers in her various dialacts of southern charm, southern plantation, latina, I am womyn, sapppho from the isle of Lesbos, and New Jersey trailer talking, eat one of Tippers WHITE HOUSE home-baked cookies at her first white house tea. I don't think Hillary knows how to act around ladies. LOL ROFL I just ordered Hillarys decorative nutcracker. Great for partys! "

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Republican for Gore wrote on Nov 6, 2007 7:35 PM:

" I don't want to vote for Gore, but it would make me very happy to watch Tipper baking cookies in the White House. Hillary was a shrewd and rude First Lady and treated Tipper like a maid. Oh, would I love to see Tipper baking cookies and offering "humble pie" to the "ample hipped one in the blue teal dress". Hillary has so much "junk in the trunk", you can't tell me she isn't eating cookies and cakes and thick slabs of bacon, and quart jars of mayonnaise and gallons of Ben and Jerrys. "

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eek wrote on Nov 6, 2007 2:37 PM:

" However, I like that I can reduce waste and spend less money by being more efficient. Why does that make me a leftist or a part of some greater liberal-money-making conspiracy? I think I am just trying to be a little bit more responsible. "

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eek wrote on Nov 6, 2007 2:36 PM:

" I do not like Al Gore. But as a surfer I also do not like when I cannot go into the ocean because the water has high poison levels. I do not like going to LA and not being able to take a deep breath without coughing from the smog. I do not like that biodiversity is decreasing and animal species are becoming extinct at an exponential rate. Cont. "

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eek wrote on Nov 6, 2007 2:15 PM:

" To Brian basher: Why is Brian being labeled a liberal for wanting people to be economically and ecologically responsible? I thought republicans were suppose to be the "fiscally responsible" party. Think about it, if you are a business and you exhausted or pollute the necessary resources for your business your are out-of-business. How about actually making an intelligent argument rather than just attempting to call Brian names? "

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Atta Boy wrote on Nov 6, 2007 2:05 PM:

" I think Brian's idea is brilliant.For once he speaks the truth. "

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Atta Boy wrote on Nov 6, 2007 2:02 PM:

" An environmental What?I know one thing. You don't have a clue.Carbon monoxide, that's what one gets when smoking funny cigarretes.Be careful,very careful. "

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Billy Rubin wrote on Nov 6, 2007 1:58 PM:

" Killio gets it. Fear is the liberal game and you’ll never see Republicans use fear as a political tool. As for me, I’ve never felt so secure as I have since we have been alerted to color-coded Terror Level Threats. We must act now if we are to allow our greatest president, George W. Bush, to suspend our constitution as our democratic allies in The War Against Terror in Pakistan have done. Only after our own constitution has been thwarted and all of those silly liberal civil rights have been curtailed will I feel relaxed. "

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killio wrote on Nov 6, 2007 1:32 PM:

" And he is lining his pockets as he does it. Great endorsement, always follow the money. Was it CO or CO2 that was the greenhouse gas? And was warming caused by the gas or was the gas caused by the warming? Important question which the data says goes against Man made global warming. But we'll just ignore that. Fear is much better.... "

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Brian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 1:27 PM:

" To Brian, I guess we'll have to contact all the scientists throughout the world and tell them what they say about global climate change is liberal talking points. Get a grip!! "

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Billy Rubin wrote on Nov 6, 2007 12:48 PM:

" As faithful Republicans, we must fight liberals who wish to destroy our way of life by limiting how much they pollute. We must publicly humiliate those who oppose toxins just because they have heard someone like Al Gore say they are unhealthy. The liberals, with their agenda, want to rip from our grasp our God-given entitlement to throw, burn, or dump anything we want, wherever we want and they must be stopped. God Bless America! See you at the mall! "

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Billy Rubin wrote on Nov 6, 2007 12:47 PM:

" Yes, Daniel is exactly right. Global warming is just another get-rich-quick scheme put forward by liberals looking to make another quick buck off us conservatives and I’m tired of them getting rich at our expense. Government scientists, working under the direction of our president, have said there is no such thing as global warming and I believe them before I’d believe a bunch of fake air-brushed photographs showing dirt where glaciers used to be. "

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to brian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 9:50 AM:

" You make us laugh,,get off your liberal talking points,,every post you claim to be a conservative,,then you go on to spew your silly liberal ideas,,at least have enough class to admit what you are. "

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Bubba Hillwilliam wrote on Nov 6, 2007 8:47 AM:

" Remember, Allgore has less education in Science than I do. "

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Brian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 8:15 AM:

" We have come a long way since then. Yet, the stench I hear from those in denial of global climate change makes me wonder if we really have progressed beyond the dark ages. It's interesting to see so many on the left having enough brains to understand global warming yet none of them have enough brains to understand the nee for national security. As a conservative, the issue of global climate change is where I disagree with their denial of it. "

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Audi 5000 wrote on Nov 6, 2007 8:13 AM:

" Frank, what are your credentials as a climate scientist? You're an environmental biologist! Your kind are the ones are responsible for killing humans by not allowing highway safety projects to be built (i.e. highway 12 widening). Ferry Shrimp, Vernal Pools, Elderberry Beetles, Giant Garter Snakes, Kit Foxes, Swensen's Hawks, migratory birds, varies Trees, etc., are all more important than human lives to you sick people. "

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Brian wrote on Nov 6, 2007 8:11 AM:

" Thank You Frank. It just happens to be Gore is still a politician and he has a lot of influence. The study of global climate change is not a perfect science. We are learning more every day about the effects of global climate change. Much like the other sciences that are still in their infancies, we must not jump to conclusions. Many people in the past were tarred and feathered or burned at the stake for thinking outside the box. cont "

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Daniel wrote on Nov 6, 2007 8:00 AM:

" Other than that, Al Gore is a great guy, worthy of the nobel prize, fighting for the prevention of world disaster. The council on foreign relations chose a good man. "

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Daniel wrote on Nov 6, 2007 7:59 AM:

" I have a hypothesis that while Bill Clinton was opening the White House to Chinese to allow for unlimited free flow of top secret information, Al Gore was assisting a lady, who I believe was named Maria Hsia, in her business of securing green cards for Chinese spies. During the Clinton-Gore years, the chinese stole drawings on how to build a MIRV-ed nuclear warhead, and a neutron bomb. "

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Daniel wrote on Nov 6, 2007 7:55 AM:

" Al Gore is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, and I question the professional integrity of the nobel prize committee. I am not at all impressed with the prize, or Al Gore. "

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