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Some Lodi residents say they won't give candy if the trick-or-treaters don't put in the effort. Others say that there is an age at which children should no longer trick-or-treat. (Brian Feulner/News-Sentinel)

What age too old to trick-or-treat?

Lodi residents sound off on Halloween's 'freeloaders'

By Amanda Dyer
News-Sentinel Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:50 AM PDT

Tonight hundreds of children will hit the streets of Lodi in search of the house with the "good candy."

When they get there, though, some of Lodi's older youth will find themselves out of luck as candy-givers often have their own opinions on whether or not to give out candy to teenagers in jeans, sweatshirts and, maybe, a ski mask.

Some Lodi residents say that when they open the door on Halloween night they expect costumes and won't give up the goods if the trick-or-treaters don't put in the effort.

Others say that there is an age at which children should stop trick-or-treating, whether they're dressed up or not.

Lodi resident Marie Willers, 50, says kids should stop trick-or-treating when they get to junior high.

"It's for the little guys," she said.

Willers does get the occasional middle-schooler on her doorstep on Halloween night, but they don't get any candy from her.

"We're like, 'Come on guys,'" she said.

Sometimes the kids will call her names as they walk away. She doesn't mind too much as long as they stay away from her car, which she makes sure to park in her garage on Halloween night.

For parents:
• Make sure to accompany younger children.
• Know the route your kids are taking.
• Explain the difference between trick and vandalism.
• Inspect all candy and make sure it has not been tampered with.

For children:
• Remain in familiar areas.
• Watch carefully for cars, as there is a good chance they will not see you.
• Cross the street at marked crosswalks, not between parked cars.
• Avoid houses that are dark.
• Never enter a house for treats.
— Lodi Police Department.

Scott St. Clair, also a Lodi resident, said he doesn't mind if older kids come to his door, as long as they dress up.

St. Clair, 49, helped his friend Scott Huggins decorate his house for Halloween this year. The house features a four-foot-long spider that moves up and down Huggins' roof with the help of a garage door opener, and a headless dummy that squirts blood out of its neck.

St. Clair figures if he's going to go to the trouble of decorating his house, then teenagers should at least show that they put in a little effort when they darken its doorstep.

Otherwise, "They don't get no candy here," St. Clair said.

St. Clair feels that Halloween is a dying holiday. He said that when he was younger, kids were still out trick-or-treating until 10 p.m. Now, he said, the night is over at 8 p.m.

"Most teenagers won't (dress up) because they're too cool," he said.

Staci Davis, 24, shares St. Clair's view.

While Davis feels that kids over the age of 12 years old are probably a little old to be trick-or-treating, she'll still offer them a treat as long as they come in costume.

"If they're not dressed up, then no," Davis said.

Lodi High School junior Troy Wailly, however, will be showing up on doorstops wearing a salt shaker costume.

"People love it," Wailly said. "It doesn't matter how old you are. They love the costume."

Nor will fellow Lodi High student Arlenne Roque, who plans to go door-to-door dressed up as a maid, be stopped.

"You're never too old to trick-or-treat," she said.

Contact reporter Amanda Dyer at amandad@lodinews.com.

Reader Feedback

Apparently wrote on Nov 5, 2007 10:15 PM:

" Apparently 16 years, 4 mothns and 11 days is to old to be trick or treating if it means they are going to "find" tear gas and pepper spray and take it to school the next day to spray in a corridor and put 45 people at risk, sending many to the hospital. "

Lodian wrote on Nov 3, 2007 4:21 PM:

" Most people with their little babies go to the home of friends and family on Halloween night. It's fun and cute to visit family/friends when the baby is young and in their cute little costumes. I have to say that is very odd when strangers come to the door and have their baby sitting in a stroller with a candy bucket and ask for candy to be added to the bucket by saying "trick or treat" for the baby. "

to Lodi Living wrote on Nov 2, 2007 1:10 PM:

" You are obviously one of the smart people in Lodi. Well done. Great attitude! "

to ben's "so called" mommy wrote on Nov 2, 2007 1:08 PM:

" I could think of many different ways to spend family time then to go begging for candy from strangers with a little baby. stupid is as stupid does. leave the little baby home when going to the home of strangers. or at least don't get the kid to beg for candy. "

Lodi Living wrote on Nov 2, 2007 9:34 AM:

" We had the most wonderful bunch of kid's that stoped by our house this year & yes there were older ones, i gave them candy anyway, each one of them said thank you, my husband & i enjoyed it. Thank you young people of lodi. "

Mother of 3month old wrote on Nov 1, 2007 2:12 PM:

" And to the person who made the comment about border patrol shame on you! "

Mother of a 3month old wrote on Nov 1, 2007 1:51 PM:

" Its funny how silly people can be.I took my son 3 months along with my older children we all dressed up including myself and husband we had a great time doing this as family so KUDOS to you BensMommy. Its sad how some people dont understand family time anymore and all they think of is themselves. SELFISH..besides I know if it was all about the candy I would just go buy my own and I agree if you dont like it turn the lights off we taught our kids not to go to a door with no lights on. "

lodi resident wrote on Nov 1, 2007 8:33 AM:

" haloween was fun when i was a kid,now that i'm an adult i take my grandson to a couple of neighbors houses to show off his costume.I guess i had forgotten how cool i though it was when people came to the door with candy.Anyways the stores make money so this holiday is here to stay.lets try and enjoy it. "

who are you kidding? wrote on Nov 1, 2007 12:28 AM:

" Ben's Mommy, are you really going out trick-or-treating to be a part of the family, or do you just want the candy for yourself? Your baby can't or shouldn't be eating the candy, so why even ask for it? "

Lodian wrote on Nov 1, 2007 12:13 AM:

" Ben's mommy: Holiday spirit? You seem very excitable regarding this topic. Have you had some issues or problems while trick-or-treating? "

GTZM wrote on Oct 31, 2007 7:12 PM:

" TO A hOSTAGE SITUATION:cAN YOU SAY Paronoid thoughts, oooohhhh!! Someones @ the door!1 "

Surprise for goblins wrote on Oct 31, 2007 6:53 PM:

" This year our family will answer the door dressed like the Border Patrol. I wonder how many will say "trick or treat"? "

Older neighborhood wrote on Oct 31, 2007 6:52 PM:

" I think its odd that there are virtually no children in this neighborhood, but we get hundreds of children and adults who arrive in buses and flatbed trucks to scour the area for treats. Where do they come from? Most don't speak a word of English, and even the adults knock on the door and ask for candy not dressed up and point to the street where kids are standing. Maybe the parents just want to beg for candy? They gawk and snoop and point. It looks like an invasion. "

gtzm wrote on Oct 31, 2007 6:47 PM:

" People get a grip Halloween is for kids, and those that are kids @ heart, give give give. Why must some people see the worst in everything,and try to regulate, live a little, and love thy neighbor, lol. "

Whoa Nellie! wrote on Oct 31, 2007 5:21 PM:

" OMGosh, where do I start? If they put out an effort I'll give the teen candy, the ones dressed normally will get a "dress up next year, but aren't you too old for this?" I too get swamped by the 'van-in' kids near HSS. I'm sooo glad there is no more Haunted House @HSS. I've even dressed up to hand out my candy. I'm ready for 300 kids. Plus I give out full candy bars to our neighbor kids. "

Tokay HS Mom wrote on Oct 31, 2007 5:19 PM:

" My teenage daughter is developmentally disabled and I told her she's too old to go out. She'll help me hand out candy. I think it's awful that teenagers go trick-or-treating. I usually give them one piece of candy. I give the little ones more. "

Bens Mommy wrote on Oct 31, 2007 5:08 PM:

" To whoever wrote the ignorant comment in regards to mine grow up why do you need to come to a newspaper blog site to talk trash? Halloween to me is spending with my family or as you said "My Brats" Thank You for showing us all your lack of Family and Holiday spirit!! "

afgo wrote on Oct 31, 2007 4:41 PM:

" dogbark...arf-arf.. you are funny. Starting those margaritas already? "

Lodian wrote on Oct 31, 2007 3:58 PM:

" dogbark: Enjoy! "

to: Ben's mommy wrote on Oct 31, 2007 3:44 PM:

" So, you'll go to "...every damn door in the area". You sound like the type that would egg the house if they didn't open the door or ran out of candy for you and your brats. How old are you? Leave the poor little baby at home. Bad mommy, bad. "

to "a lodi mom" wrote on Oct 31, 2007 2:49 PM:

" so you feel that kids that either 9a) live out in the boonies and are growing grapes for all the wine lodi boasts about, or (2) live in a neighborhood where its not safe to walk, let alone approach someone's house, ring the bell and hope they do not get shot or grabbed by a kiddie molester - you think these kids should just stay home and be left out of celebrating hallowee. some mom you are. "

dogbark wrote on Oct 31, 2007 2:31 PM:

" If you don't have a costume, here's an old trick. Take a piece of string about 5 inches long. Tie a knot in each end. Tuck one knot behind your ear, then run the string around behind your head and tuck the other knot behind your other ear. Go trick-or-treating. If people are startled when you walk up and say "Wow, that's scary," then, man, you know you are really ugly! "

dogbark wrote on Oct 31, 2007 2:19 PM:

" Lodian, ok it's a deal! I will follow Troy Wailly up to your door. I'll be Jimmy Buffet and he will be my lost shaker of salt. "Wasting away again at Margaritaville..." So get the blender and tequila ready! "

A Lodi Mom wrote on Oct 31, 2007 2:14 PM:

" To hahahah: Thanks for your wisdom...and because of you, I've decided to do just that (don't answer the door) so I don't have to provide candy to a van-ful of kids that are not from our neighborhood. To Bens Mommy: No problem with taking Ben to "every damn door", but do you need candy for him? "

M2CW wrote on Oct 31, 2007 12:20 PM:

" I agree if they've dressed up and put out the effort, you're never too old to go trick or treating! But, BE POLITE and only take ONE candy, it peeves me when some kid reaches in and grabs a handful of candy! "

hahahah wrote on Oct 31, 2007 12:09 PM:

" OK TO EVERYBODY HERE COMPLAINING ABOUT HALLOWEEN,,,THAT VANS WITH FAMILIES IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD,,,AND TEENAGERS THAT ARENT DRESSED UP,,,JUST STOP COMPLAINING!!!,AND JUST DONT OPEN THE DOOR,,,SIMPLE AS THAT!!!!!! "

mee thinks wrote on Oct 31, 2007 11:37 AM:

" i remember going around the block i lived on to get treats. Never went to other neighborhoods. Now my own kids like to go around our neighborhood and with their friends to THEIR neighborhood. I think thats ok. I agree, no costume = no treat and babies do not deserve candy. maybe we should get pacifiers to hand to them! "

Bens Mommy wrote on Oct 31, 2007 11:37 AM:

" To Momof4... Im sorry but if you have 4 children then you remember what it was like the first halloween you had with your children how excited you were to take them out......Its not all about the candy.....Its about family time...My husband and I are taking our 5 month old son, 9 year old daughter and 11 year old son....now my youngest wont stay up the whole time but i will take him to every damn door in the area we are in I am so excited to do this with him for the first time Its about family time!! "

Lodian wrote on Oct 31, 2007 11:37 AM:

" dogbark: I don't mind giving candy to those skateboarders you describe. They are usually very respectful and out having good clean fun. It's the adults that "van in" the extended family of 12 and ask for candy that annoy me. "

OTH wrote on Oct 31, 2007 9:45 AM:

" When we were kids we took a plastic bag. Nowdays they carry pillow cases. Are these the same parents that tomorrow will be telling the world they eat healthy and sugar is bad for you? "

Lodian wrote on Oct 31, 2007 9:16 AM:

" Oh, and the same people will ask for candy for their 6 week old infant that's asleep in the stroller. Ugh! Then they all get back in the van and leave the neighborhood, sometimes with 10-15 to a vehicle. "

Lodian wrote on Oct 31, 2007 9:16 AM:

" I don't mind the dressed up teenagers coming to the door at all. Most are respectful and say thank you and are just out for some Halloween fun. It's the huge families that trick-or-treat that bother me. We get many vans full of families that pull up, park and trick-or-treat through the neighborhood. The mom, dad, uncle, aunt, cousins etc all have their hand out. They don't even say trick-or-treat....they just put their hand out. Now these are the people that bug me the most. "

Jeremy wrote on Oct 31, 2007 8:59 AM:

" Halloween is a great holiday that allows you to become a part of a fantasy, and have some fun. I say if they put in the effort, you are never too old to trick or treat "

momof4 wrote on Oct 31, 2007 8:44 AM:

" How about the parents that bring the infants to your door? Yes they are adorable but you know that candy is not for the baby. Go to a couple of houses that you know to show off your baby, but don't take them door to door. That candy could go to kids that are the right age. "

a hostage situation wrote on Oct 31, 2007 8:37 AM:

" Residents are caugh in a hostage situation. Give the older kids the 'treat' or they will 'trick' you. Unfortunately, the tricks these days are not limited to TP-ing your house. Broken windows and keyed cars can result. Note: If they are dressed as gang-bangers, they probably are and its not a costume. "

emmaG wrote on Oct 31, 2007 8:18 AM:

" Last year I planned for 240 kids--I ran out of candy by 7:30pm. This year I'm planning for 300 kids. I know not all of these kids are from my neighborhood. Where are they coming from? I see parents trailing in SUVs, minivans etc . . .Do they all come to Lodi for candy? "

A Lodi Mom wrote on Oct 31, 2007 8:15 AM:

" I get tired of the kids that are "vanned' in...you know, a van pulls into your neighborhood and 13 kids jump out.... "

Lodi Mom wrote on Oct 31, 2007 8:02 AM:

" I agree that if you are not dressed up in a costume then NO candy. But I give it becasue I am scared they will do something to the house or car. Some kids are just rude and if you say No they act out in very ugly ways. "

Reality wrote on Oct 31, 2007 7:25 AM:

" If you are too cool to dress up for Halloween then you are too old. I plan too take my grandson out tonight at 7 months old and he will be in a cute costume and I will dress up if I take him up to the door. "

dogbark wrote on Oct 31, 2007 7:13 AM:

" don't come to my door with your baggy shirt, hat on backwards and skateboard and say 'I'm a skateboarder' cause you'll get dog..... bark from me. "

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