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Park West homeowner says blame misplaced

By News-Sentinel Staff
Saturday, September 29, 2007 2:33 AM PDT

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A woman whose home in Park West has become the focus of neighborhood concerns said Friday she is enduring a nightmare of illness, the loss of a job, and the possible loss of her home.

Her home on Tejon Street was the subject of a story in Thursday's News-Sentinel. Neighbors, who say the property has been untended for several months, have asked for the city to take action so it does not further depress property values.

One neighbor decided to take matters into his own hands and worked for several hours cutting grass and tidying up the property.

It appears the house reflects wider trends of people losing their homes, which then sit idle and neglected for protracted periods.

The owner, who could not be reached for comment in Thursday's story, contacted the News-Sentinel on Friday.

She asked that her name not to be used because of the sensitive nature of her experience. She said, however, that her home is not yet in foreclosure, as stated in the story, though she has been unable to work out a payment plan with her lender.

"I bought the house when I had an executive-level position. I could easily afford the payment then. But I became ill and was laid off. I am now on Social Security disability. I can't afford the payments anymore. I am still hopeful of working out an agreement with the lender, but so far that has not happened," she said.

She said she struggled to maintain the appearance of the house while it has been on the market, but was unable to pay for continued gardening or other upkeep.

She moved out of the house last spring after it appeared to have been sold. However, that sale fell through, the value has continued to languish, and there appear to be few options.

"I wish the neighbors had been less judgmental and more helpful to me," she said. "When you are out of money, what do you do?"

The owner also pointed out that the real estate representative for her house, Donna Cartwright, is her Realtor, not her broker, as stated in the story.

She said residents and neighbors should blame decreasing property values on a sinking real estate market and inflexible lenders, not on people like her who face substantial and unexpected hardships.

Reader Feedback

To Lodian wrote on Oct 7, 2007 1:31 PM:

" Thats an easy one to answer. The editor either speaks English or Spanish. I will try to say something in Urdu to keep this blog "diverse", and see if that gets by the PC police at the LNS? "

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Lodian wrote on Oct 7, 2007 11:50 AM:

" Was ist wirklich los hier? Wenn Sie in allem anders als Englisch, wie Spanischen, dann bekanntgeben, Sie sollte in allen Sprachen bekanntgeben. Deutscher ist eine Standardsprache in Lodi, also warum Zensor ein Pfosten auf Deutsch und erlaubt einen Pfosten auf spanisch? Danke und Auf Wiedersehen. "

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Lodian wrote on Oct 7, 2007 11:49 AM:

" The post by "To Gov agent 2" on Oct 6, 2007 @ 10:57am is in part written in Spanish. Why will you allow posts/comments that have been written in Spanish and not posts with comments in other languages? "

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Lodian wrote on Oct 6, 2007 8:30 PM:

" In the past when I have posted a comment in another language (German, Italian or Portuguese) I get censored. So, why does a post/comment in Spanish get posted? "

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GovAgent to responder wrote on Oct 6, 2007 6:24 PM:

" Thanks for sharing your thought!After WWII they deported all the illegals when the soldiers came home to keep jobs for Americans. They rounded them up and gave them $200 each, put them on a bus and sent them back to Mexico! We just need to make property owners pay when they rent to illegals! loose property, and prison would scare them enough. Get rid of supply and they will go home! "

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To Gov agent 2 wrote on Oct 6, 2007 10:57 AM:

" Everyday at 4 am we are subjected to the loud music of "Alla en el Rancho grande". We enjoy it when the singer brags about having the "fattest, largest, "most pregnant", and therefore "the best wife". Ahh I love the cultural diversity, where "bigger" is better, "more colors" are better, and "louder" is better. Their old pickup truck makes them "better" because it's bigger, has more colors (spraypaint), and is louder than yours (no muffler)." Bienvenidos! Alla en la ciudad de Lodi, el rancho grande del San Joaquin. YYiii! "

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To Govt Agent wrote on Oct 6, 2007 10:51 AM:

" Thats a great idea. First we need an enforced city law that makes it illegal to sublet your residence turning into into a motel. We have a tract house nearby with 8 cars parked on the lawns and driveway. It looks like a junk yard. The "residents" enjoy visiting in the spaces between the cars so they can talk loudly and drink beer. It's quiet during the weekdays because they are inside sleeping. "

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GovAgent continues wrote on Oct 5, 2007 6:44 PM:

" Not only are illegals hiding in these homes but quality of life for all neighbors has gone down! The City of Lodi is a refuge to illegals, and this is against the law! San Diego has a city that passed a policy that says: no business or homeowners can rent or sell to illegals. If any illegals are caught living on their properties, the owners forfeit the land and buildings, face high fines and prison term! We need to stop the supply (places to hide and sleep) and demand will go down, they will stop comming with nowhere to stay! "

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GovAgent wrote on Oct 5, 2007 6:38 PM:

" Atleast you dont have neighbors who at first buy a house, move in and look like a good mexican family. After one month there are 15 mexican males all carrying big bags, some backpacks, other rucksacks, with all their belongings in them. Next there are 10 to 15 vehicals pulling up every morning including Saturday and Sunday mornings. From about 3:30-4:00am to 6:30am horns are blowing waking up the entire neighborhood! I call the cops everytime it goes on! nothing is done! we need a new policy with this type of behavior! "

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Proud Realtor Two wrote on Oct 4, 2007 10:28 PM:

" Yeah, you really "helped" your customers...into the poor house. By taking listings I make the same income,and I don't need to lie. The people who listed with me are 1200% very happy, all of their houses SOLD. No regrets. Can you say the same? If you have any morality you would be ashamed for being as aggressive as you claim. "

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Proud Realtor wrote on Oct 4, 2007 10:27 PM:

" To realty associate: Not ONE of my listings caused anyone to lose their property. None are on the street begging for food, and not one has had to declare bankruptcy because of MY actions. You on the other hand bragged that you "...were a more aggressive agent to drag in buyers.." Anyone can troll for the poor, naiive and unfortunate and weave stories about how " they aren't making land anymore, and prices can only go up". "Be a millionaire today, with NO money down and stated income loan docs for a $400,000 cracker box." "

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To Proud Realtor wrote on Oct 4, 2007 1:34 PM:

" Your last post proved my point. Thank you for leaving this business. Your work ethic and loyalty to clients is something to behold. I'm sure the day you get your brokers license will not only be celebrated by local real estate professionals, but buyers and sellers as well. Scary to think you're coming back when houses are easier to sell than beans. "

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Proud Realtor wrote on Oct 3, 2007 10:20 PM:

" I just got my brokers license and am waiting to hire you on the next bubble. I am semi-retired and am selling a commodity that is hot hot hot right now,legumes,soy products and of course, heirloom dry beans. "

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S & W 500 wrote on Oct 3, 2007 10:09 PM:

" A neighbor of mine had heart surgery a while back, I mowed his lawn til' he could. I respect "owns" property, but one should take care of it, unless you don't have a clue, and then, you probably do not own said property. To those who blame realtors, "doom on you". Check my Vietnamese translation. One must be responsible, RIFF: Reading Is Fundamental. "

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Lodian wrote on Oct 3, 2007 2:39 PM:

" Th real deal: I doubt you have the great relationship with your neighbors that you think you do. I can tell by your lack of compassion for the woman in this article. "

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To Proud Realtor wrote on Oct 3, 2007 10:29 AM:

" So nice to hear from a successful real estate agent. In the business we refer to people like you as "listers". That's all you do. You become a Realtor in a hot market to just list homes and wait for a more aggressive agent to bring a buyer. In a down market you run. You're a loser and a poor representation of a professional Realtor. Good ridance. "

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Heather wrote on Oct 3, 2007 10:06 AM:

" Thanks Lodi, I still live at home so I didnt really understand what the big deal was. =) "

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Th real deal wrote on Oct 3, 2007 10:01 AM:

" I bet this woman either had a bad relationship or no relationship with her neighbors. My neighbors are so cool this would nebver happen in our neighborhood. "

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To Heather wrote on Oct 3, 2007 9:58 AM:

" It brings down all the close property values if her house looks like a dump. "

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Concerned Citizen wrote on Oct 2, 2007 7:49 PM:

" Although my heart goes out to this woman, I believe we need to look at the global issue here. Regarding real estate, we are facing very difficult times in the Central Valley. Why aren't banks etc. lowering interest rates to try and keep the homeowners in their property? It has to be more costly to foreclose on the property than to accept a lower rate to help the buyer in their time of need. This whole issue just makes me sick! "

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Lodi Mommie wrote on Oct 2, 2007 4:05 PM:

" To Heather, EVERYTHING matters when it comes to appearance when trying to sell a house. I hope the neighbors help out and mow her tiny front lawn for her while she is in need. If I was the Realtor and wanted it to sell I would do it for her, it is not very expensive. It is normal that neighbors want to see other people care for their yards, it is a pride issue and keeps values up. I pray this lady gets help and her health improves, my heart goes out to her. "

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Heather wrote on Oct 2, 2007 3:00 PM:

" I dont understand. why does it matter what a house looks like on the outside. If it is her house why should other people care what it looks like? I really am not trying to cause trouble or anything I just dont understand. If I owned my house and people didnt like the way it looked, my opinion would be too bad for them! Why is this an issue or am I misunderstanding something? "

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Proud Realtor cont wrote on Oct 2, 2007 2:51 PM:

" continuied. Houses are not selling and are still priced too high for the average wage earner. Several of the brokers had contests to see who could get the most listings and who could sell the most properties. Today, Realtors are not interested in taking more listings because there are too many houses already on the market, and it will cause housing prices to drop. We get paid when the listing sells. I am now selling other commodities, and am again successful. We all have to be patient. Times will be better, someday. "

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Proud Realtor wrote on Oct 2, 2007 2:47 PM:

" Some Realtors got very creative encouraging uninterested people to become buyers. But those days are over. Look at it from our point of view. There is a lot of competition for listings and buyers. After years of being in the doldrums (1990-1999), we finally "got our chance" to make a few dollars. My standard of living during the bubble was so high that I can't afford to get listings anymore. "

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Lodian wrote on Oct 2, 2007 12:32 PM:

" Oscar: You're right. My family has had some wonderful family, friends and neighbors help in a time of need. I have no idea what it must be like to be alone, without the support of the people around us. Hopefully this woman can stay in touch and let people know when she is having trouble so they can rally around her and help out. This is, however, hard for some people to do... especially if she's used to being able to fully take care of herself as an independent woman. "

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Lodian wrote on Oct 2, 2007 12:27 PM:

" nylodian: No, I don't blame the neighbors. Sorry if it came across that way. I've just learned, as I've gotten older, that some people really don't have the family, friends and support that I'm used to and it's got to be very difficult. As with this women, if she's all alone, I can't imagine how hard that must be. My heart goes out to her. Like I said, I bet the neighbors, knowing her situation now, are very supportive and willing to help. Yes, it's really too bad this woman was unable to get the news to her neighbors. "

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Oscar wrote on Oct 2, 2007 7:08 AM:

" Bella, that's the Lodi I know. Please understand that these blogs represent a very small number of individuals and do not reflect main stream Lodi. Lodi is still a wonderful place to live and raise a family. I have to take a break from reading these blogs because it is so upsetting to think there are people out there so callous and full of anger. I try to bring a positive spin but usually get shot down. Hang in there. "

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nylodian wrote on Oct 2, 2007 6:50 AM:

" Lodian: I also want to clarify that I do not mean to diminish the seriousness of this woman's situation and health issues by bringing up my own experience. I just can't see blaming neighbors for not knowing her stituation. "

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nylodian wrote on Oct 2, 2007 6:29 AM:

" Hi back Lodian: I survived a near-fatal health crisis where I suddenly couldn't work (or even get up without aid) while preparing to move across the country. I still managaged to "get all my ducks in a row" with help of family and friends. It didn't require much effort at all to notify the neighbors of what was going on. I wish the woman well, but stand by my earlier post. "

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Lodian wrote on Oct 1, 2007 3:47 PM:

" kioolll: Why would you doubt that this woman had an excecutive level position? That seems like a very strange thing to question. It's really beside the point. "

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bella_777 wrote on Oct 1, 2007 2:57 PM:

" Many of you should be ashamed of yourselves. Lodi is such a Christian, family-based town but what I'm reading shows so much hypocrisy! That neighbor that worked on the lawn did so out of anger for the appearance and how it reflected on the neighborhood. He did not get the full story before slandering. If this woman has a serious illness, was laid off, moved out because of a likely sale (right or wrong decision) and now can't afford to pay for both, why can't we ask what we can do to help instead of kick her when she's down? "

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Lodian wrote on Oct 1, 2007 1:24 PM:

" Moved out...last spring?: What's wrong with you? If this woman is fighting an illness that made her lose her job then what makes you think she has the time, strength or ability to go out and mow her lawn or work on the house at all, including getting a renter? Be realistic and think about how things would look for you if you were ill and out of work. "

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Lodian wrote on Oct 1, 2007 1:20 PM:

" Hi nylodian: I have to disagree. I don't know the extent of this woman's illness, but with the loss of her job and home, I'll bet the lawn was the last thing on her mind. When one goes through a life threatening illness the care of the yard is not even on the radar. Living and regaining strength is top priority. Usually neighbors will be aware of such things and help out with yard care, meals, child care etc. Too bad these neighbors were not aware of this woman's condition/situation because I'll bet they would have been happy to help. "

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Disgusted at Lodi! continued... wrote on Oct 1, 2007 1:17 PM:

" To kioolll..what a rude thing to say! She was an executive in Stockton and well established in her field for the past 25+ years.....You obviously missed the whole point of this article. Your level of intelligence is commendable! "

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Disgusted at Lodi! wrote on Oct 1, 2007 1:01 PM:

" I hate to say it, but I'm not shocked by all of the neg. comments directed at this woman..just shows the ignorance in Lodi! I happen to know who she is and how hard she has struggled to maintain her home and care for her children while facing very serious medical problems. I'd like to see any one of you walk a mile in her shoes! Now...any comments? "

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ExcuseMe wrote on Oct 1, 2007 12:40 PM:

" I guarantee you neither the realtor or lender advised this woman to move prior to the buyers loan being approved or escrow closing. She did this all on her own. Now, others are supposed to maintain the property. I don't think so. "

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Lodi Living wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:32 AM:

" Our Community need's to pull together, Thing's are not looking very good. But it is sad when a few people would rather complain about their neighbor's lawn, why not get together and help one another, Let's walk in our faith, Not just talk about our faith. "

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nylodian wrote on Oct 1, 2007 7:19 AM:

" I am sorry for the woman's misfortune. However, she should have informed the neighbors as to what was going on with her and the house. I am sure they would have offered to maintain the yard for her, since it's in their interest as well. "

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Read It wrote on Sep 30, 2007 11:34 PM:

" The woman was ill, that's why she couldn't keep up on her yard. As a community you all should come together and help out rather than putting someone down. Thank you to the neighbors for taking time out of your busy schedule to clean her yard. As for the rest, she said she couldn't work cause she was ill, did you ever think that her illness was so serious that she could not return to work. It does happen ya know, have more consideration. It seems to be we should come together rather than trying to tear each other down. "

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Nita wrote on Sep 30, 2007 9:05 PM:

" what is wrong with everyone? What happen to help our neighbor. When did we put everything above life of our selves and other people. I am sorry for all of us that we have put material items such houses, cars ect above health, family and faith. "

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judy wrote on Sep 30, 2007 4:20 PM:

" In the good old days you use to buy a home to live in and enjoy. In time, if you needed a bigger house and were able to afford the payments, you moved. There wasn't any buying a home to see how much money you could make off of it. Our country is screwed up big time and it all revolves around greed. (I do NOT think this woman was into greed. I do think she has experienced some set backs.) "

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Moved out ...last spring? wrote on Sep 30, 2007 8:25 AM:

" If she moved out of the house last spring, has she tried to rent it out in order to at least meet the payments and upkeep? "

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GovAgent continues wrote on Sep 30, 2007 7:13 AM:

" In the old days people would rally around a neighbor and help build a barn, or help build a house that was burned down. The hardware store would donated the materials, and carpenters their time! What has happened to our society? City of Lodi should do something for these people, like freeze the fees for pg&e, city electricity and water/garbage until they get back on their feet. Especially families with soldiers in Iraq and Afganistan! "

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GovAgent wrote on Sep 30, 2007 7:08 AM:

" My hat goes off to the neighbor who mowed the yard. We need more people to be thoughtful of others. This is a great neighbor! Rather than write a nasty letter to her, or continue to call the police department, he took action! May God Bless him and his family. We need to get out of this isolationist mind set, and start being humans with thoughtfulness of others! "

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Karin W. wrote on Sep 30, 2007 12:11 AM:

" I am disheartened and astonished to read that there exists an overwhelming negative attitude and genuine lack of concern and compassion, in regard to this woman's plight. A stranger illegaly trespasses on private property, altering it without permission, and aggressively slanders the owners reputation, without repercussion. Have we become so desensitized a society, that we can't even recognise and have sympathy for, a person experiencing overwhelming adversity? There but for the grace of God go I. May grace and good fortune protect you. "

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kma wrote on Sep 29, 2007 8:21 PM:

" I can understand why the neighbors thought the house was in foreclosure. The lady hadn't been around for months. I believe the original article said the neighbors had called the realtor. Didn't the realtor relay the info to the owner. I'll bet if she had told them of her problems they would have helped her out. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 29, 2007 8:15 PM:

" Old Money: Wow, you're real sweetheart, aren't ya? Have many friends? I wonder what you will be like when you get an illness that just about breaks you. Will the first thing on your list be to go mow the lawn? I think not. You seem like the type that would flip the bird to anyone that had a problem with your yard. Glad you're not my neighbor. "

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Commonsense wrote on Sep 29, 2007 6:56 PM:

" Gee, I wonder if Joe, Drew and Dale are the same person. Get a life you idiot! No one is responsible for this lady's property but herself. Stop blaming lenders, real estate agents or anybody else. "

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grammyten wrote on Sep 29, 2007 6:48 PM:

" no one is ever happy. the neighbors yard isn't mowed,bushes over grown and weeds everywhere.so someone gets tired of no one taking care of it, and is nice enough to clean it up(for you)just say thank you.and next time he'll spend his day off fishing! "

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moo wrote on Sep 29, 2007 6:22 PM:

" Everybody is one illness away from this same situation. "

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poor poor park west wrote on Sep 29, 2007 5:43 PM:

" I really feel for ya, park west owners. So sorry, you have to endure looking at an overgrown lawn and some weeds. You have had to endure so much. "

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OTH wrote on Sep 29, 2007 4:23 PM:

" Stuff happens and can happen to any one of us at any time. Nobody plans a disability, a job loss or losing your house. She may not be able because of her disability to do yard work. I get the impression she is struggling to make the best out of a bad situation. She is not the only person in these straits right now. Bless you and may things work out the best for you. "

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To Lodian wrote on Sep 29, 2007 4:09 PM:

" If I were living next door to you I would be afraid to come out and mow my OWN lawn. LOL "

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to pathetic wrote on Sep 29, 2007 1:34 PM:

" Great job naming your post!!! "

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hey lodian wrote on Sep 29, 2007 1:33 PM:

" maybe she was once a lodi youth who wasnt aloud to have any fun ,,or learn how to accept responsibilities "

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oh wrote on Sep 29, 2007 1:29 PM:

" How about picking up someone when there down!I think that whole area looks like crap!Your wall is ugly to everyone that goes by!Thanks from us all who don't live there!So live with it like we have to!PS I use to help take care or that vineyard!I don't think you care about that do ya! "

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John Brown wrote on Sep 29, 2007 1:25 PM:

" Well,Well looks like we have a little egg on the old face.One thing for sure a good reporter would have dug a little deeper and found out what was really going on,but that's a good reporter.... This is one of the reasons I don't live in California.Here in Idaho we look out for one another,they don't even care if you are from California... "

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Weezer wrote on Sep 29, 2007 12:43 PM:

" Lodian, I completely agree with you. It shows how little we know of our neighbors these days. "

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Old Money wrote on Sep 29, 2007 12:23 PM:

" The article never mentions if you thanked your neighbors for taking care of YOUR home. With no job, you must have plenty of time to mow your own lawn, weed around your plants,etc? You need to respect your neighbors, your hardship isn't their problem. These are the same people that maybe said "hello" to you when they saw you. I'm sure a deciding factor on your original purchase was because it was in a nice,well kept neighbiorhood. Just a suggestion, maybe YOU can earn some extra money on the side by offering to mow your neighbors lawns? "

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Pathetic wrote on Sep 29, 2007 11:41 AM:

" I cannot believe how unsympathetic you people are. Buy mortgage disability insurance? Please give me a small break. God forbid anyone of you fall on hard times or become ill and unable to work. This poor woman should not have been forced to explain her situation to the whole d#%m town. Lodi Sentinel, can't you print some more newsworthy items? Good luck to you, anonymous woman. "

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Drew continued wrote on Sep 29, 2007 11:17 AM:

" Some people are lucky and "make money" from a house purchase but it is all about timing and LOCATION. Even the best plans can get sullied by having the surrounding neighborhood become less desireable. Renters can always leave. Homeowners are frequently stuck with a house with declining values. A house is a poor investment for home buyers and an excellent investment for everyone else including Realtors, loan companies and the other middlemen. You are paying someone else 6% profit, not receiving 6% profit! You are making them rich "

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Drew wrote on Sep 29, 2007 11:17 AM:

" Struggling Park West homeowner: You should rent not buy when new on the job. It is not a "bad thing" to rent. A house is a poor investment (for homeowners) and should not be relied on for financial security. Home ownership is best for those who are risk takers or for those who can absorb large financial losses during down markets. A mortgage is only a fancy name for rent paid to bank instead of to a landlord. "

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Joe continued wrote on Sep 29, 2007 11:13 AM:

" Some government backed lenders allow up to 50% of your income for PITI + PMI which will turn you into a "mortgage slave" AKA "house poor". Home ownership is best for people who have high income, long history with one employer, low or no debts, large savings, and good retirement planning. Most young people are not in this category. Once you start paying "someone else" first, rather than yourself, you place yourself at risk for financial disaster. "

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Joe wrote on Sep 29, 2007 11:10 AM:

" I hope you have good medical insurance! Our premiums are over $9,000/year. Most financial planners agree that you should always PAY YOURSELF first, and should save at least 10% of your GROSS income for emergencies like uninsured medical problems/co-pays and to help cover the holes left in your retirement accounts. This means that the ratio of mortgage debt to income should not be more than 15-25% of NET(take home) income for most people. "

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Lakesha wrote on Sep 29, 2007 11:03 AM:

" God bless you and we hope you find your way out of these problems. Housing prices are still too high, mortgage companies are going broke and America faces financial problems. I received an email this morning that MY bank was taken over by the FDIC last night! How often does that happen? You aren't alone with worry about money. I am glad my deposits were FDIC insured. My bank was another casualty of the housing bubble- people were not paying their mortgages because the houses were overpriced. "

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Dale 2 wrote on Sep 29, 2007 10:56 AM:

" As long as buyers could make payments for 6 months, everyone was happy. House prices are still in a bubble but were increasing in value instead of decreasing. You could have sold it before foreclosure, and made a profit. With record high foreclosures, low sales, and dropping prices, people who bought during the bubble with less than 20% down have lost all of their equity. Conventional borrowers have also lost equity even with 20% down, if the house was priced too high for the long term. We may be in for a ten year housing down cycle. "

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Dale wrote on Sep 29, 2007 10:43 AM:

" Thanks for explaining your problems. Now that we understand, it will help us deal with it. In the pre-bubble days, you had to be working at substantially the same job, and same or increasing income for several years before banks would give you a loan. Since 2004, you didn't need a job, a downpayment, a Social Security number, drivers license or a good credit score to buy a house. "

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Marsha wrote on Sep 29, 2007 10:38 AM:

" Its sad to read about your problems. We hope you get out of your bad situation. Just because a Realtor or loan officer tells you that you "can" afford a house, doesn't mean that its the "best" decision for you. You alone are responsible for the final choice. Before the housing bubble started in 1999, most lenders would be very careful about originating a conventional mortgage with 20% down when you are new on the job, even if it is at a high salary. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 29, 2007 10:27 AM:

" I'm surprised the neighbors hadn't spoken to this woman/neighbor. Maybe they could have been neighborly and found out what was going on and then offered assistance. Guess it shows how little we know our neighbors these days. "

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ca wrote on Sep 29, 2007 10:04 AM:

" IF IT`S YOUR PLACE, CLEAN IT UP OR GET YOUR FRIENDS TO HELP YOU. YOU WILL FIND OUT IF YOU HAVE ANY. "

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Boo Hoo wrote on Sep 29, 2007 9:15 AM:

" Yet another (almost) former homeowner that is unwilling to accept responsibility. Lady, you took a risk when you didn't purchase mortgage disability insurance. Take your lumps and quit making excuses. "

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T & C wrote on Sep 29, 2007 8:50 AM:

" Sue thecity of Lodi for not enforcing their code laws. There are homes everywhere on the east side that look like firetraps, some with 20 or more people living in them. Have some compassion for this lady. "

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kioolll wrote on Sep 29, 2007 7:30 AM:

" Right, executive level position in Lodi, Riiigghhhtttt.... Could be this is the case, but I highly doubt it...... "

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