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Tourists ask questions at the Napa Visitors Bureau on Thursday. Tourism in downtown Napa has increased steadily in the last 10 years. (Matt Brown/News-Sentinel)

Booming Napa a blueprint for tourism development in Lodi

By Matt Brown
News-Sentinel Staff Writer
Saturday, September 8, 2007 7:17 AM PDT

The visitors bureau here was packed Thursday with more than 25 tourists poring over maps and browsing through Napa-emblazoned Polo shirts, wine glasses and bottle openers.

Visitors from all over the country and beyond lined up to ask questions of helpful volunteers such as Renee Morley.

"We've had a tremendous amount of tourists," said Morley, who has helped Napa visitors find their way for 10 years. "It was a zoo on Labor Day weekend. We had over 1,000 people."

Shirley and Ray Clancy from Portland, Ore., set out on foot to explore the streets of downtown Napa clutching a tourist map highlighting some of the city's two dozen fine dining restaurants and 14 wine tasting rooms.

"It's fun to walk through town," Shirley Clancy said. "There is so much to do within walking distance."

This was hardly the case 10 years ago. Before 1998, Napa was the flood-prone, gritty industrial foot of a world renown wine region. Visitors used to stop in the city long enough to get directions to the chic resorts and wineries farther up the Napa Valley in St. Helena and Yountville.

A major public improvement project beginning in 1998 led to an aggressive push by city officials to attract businesses to downtown. Ten years later, Napa is a booming tourist destination with plans for world class hotels, and the city is reaping the rewards of new sales tax dollars.

Lodi officials have noted the achievements Napa has made and hope that the city of 73,000 just north of the San Francisco Bay can serve as a road map to developing their city's tourist sector. Recent developments in Downtown including plans for a new hotel suggest that Lodi is trying to capitalize on the surrounding area's wine image the same way Napa did 10 years ago.

Flood control leads to tourism

The Napa River provides a scenic backdrop to the city's downtown. But during heavy rains, it becomes a flood hazard. Every winter, downtown business owners would break out the sand bags and brooms in hopes their shops didn't bear the brunt when the river inevitably overflowed its banks.


A construction crew works on a flood protection wall as part of a $300 million flood control project in downtown Napa. The project has encouraged investment in Napa and caused a boom in the tourist sector. (Matt Brown/News-Sentinel)

In 1997, the city passed a half-cent sales tax measure that raised millions of dollars and leveraged millions more in federal money for a massive $300 million flood protection project. Buildings were moved back from the river, the banks were terraced and flood walls were built. City officials say this project was a boon for attracting businesses because investors could open new establishments confident that they wouldn't be inundated.

"That was clearly the project that got things moving," said Craig Smith, head of the Napa Downtown Association. "There wasn't a building in town that didn't triple in value."

As property values soared, Napa was again flooded — this time with investment money. Leading the way was innovative chef Greg Cole, who opened two restaurants in downtown, Celadon and Cole's Chop House, which are highly rated by the international restaurant guide Zagat. At the same time, Copia, a wine, food and art center, opened attracting a host of upscale boutiques, tasting rooms and fine dining restaurants.

Locals have seen the results.

Tourists strolled the red brick-lined streets of downtown Napa on Thursday, popping in and out of pricey shoe stores and jewelry boutiques. At Barbara Rhoda's Napa Valley Traditions gift shop, business is booming.

"In the last 10 years, I have seen more people stopping in Napa," Rhoda said. "They used to just drive up the valley to go to the wineries."

The next phase of downtown Napa's revitalization is hotel construction, said Micah Hinkle, a project coordinator in the Napa Economic Development Department.


Jennifer La Liberte, Napa senior project coordinator, talks about economic development in downtown Napa on Thursday. (Matt Brown/News-Sentinel)

"We've attracted the tourists to town, now we want them to stay here," he said. "There are some big name hotels coming into town."

Besides a 142-room boutique hotel that will open in downtown next year, Napa is gearing up for a 160-room Westin condominium hotel and a Ritz-Carlton resort along the river.

A blueprint for Lodi

A Downtown hotel is exactly what Lodi business and tourism officials have been screaming for since 1998. That year, a city consultant recommended enhancing Downtown with "wine-related outlets, restaurants and a Downtown hotel." Like Napa, Lodi has started to attract fine dining restaurants and wine tasting rooms into the city's core. Now Lodi appears poised for the next phase.

In July, the city partnered with Wine and Roses developer Russ Munson to explore building a Downtown hotel. Munson paid the city $5,000 for first dibs on developing a hotel, most likely on a city-owned parking lot on Church Street.

City officials estimate a new hotel could generate $200,000 annually in transient occupancy tax, which would increase the city's hotel tax revenue by 50 percent. In addition, a hotel would increase property and sales tax and serve as a Downtown anchor, city officials say.

Inn at Town Center
  • 144-suite boutique hotel
  • 2,000 square feet of meeting space
  • 12,000 square feet of retail space
  • Opening spring 2008
The Westin Verasa Napa Residences
  • 160 rooms
  • 3,700 square feet of restaurant/lounge
  • 17,000 square feet of meeting space
  • Opening fall 2008
Ritz-Carlton
  • 126 condo units
  • 200 hotel rooms
  • River access
  • Construction schedule undetermined
Source: City of Napa

A Downtown hotel would help bolster all businesses in the city, Lodi Chamber of Commerce President Pat Patrick said.

"The wine industry is the magnet that pulls tourists into town," Patrick said. "We have to capture them and have them stay here so they aren't just day trippers. We do need more hotel space and we'd love to have it Downtown."

As Lodi's wine-tourism industry grows, the city is already attracting visitors who would normally head to Napa, according to Lodi Conference and Visitor's Bureau Executive Director Nancy Beckman. The draw in Lodi is a more intimate wine tasting experience for a better value, Beckman said.

Lodi does not have the crowds and congestion like Napa, and Lodi visitors can still taste wine poured by the actual winemaker, Beckman said. You won't get that personal touch in Napa.

However, the restaurant-to-tasting room-to-hotel blueprint laid out by Napa is worth following in Lodi, Beckman said.

"The Napa model is a great model for Lodi," she said. "Everyone wants Downtown to be healthy and vibrant. Tourism can do that."

Contact reporter Matt Brown at mattb@lodinews.com.

Reader Feedback

WY wrote on Sep 17, 2007 2:24 PM:

" We have better fruit than Germans too. I bought a mellon and it was yucky. I'm tell'n ya, we got it grow'n on in this valley. :) "

WY wrote on Sep 17, 2007 2:21 PM:

" Chile juice...? Well I really only drink lodi wines. I've experenced german wines.(sweet or sour) I found Lodi wine in Germany. Yummy wine made of Ray Road... lol Three buck jug at the Luquor and Deli. It had a twist cap. But it was all corked up sweet like and getting forty something Marks in Daum Germany. I'm no farmer I just know we have good grapes here "

Caspian wrote on Sep 17, 2007 7:29 AM:

" WY: if Lodi produced grape juice for other wineries, why not Chile. Gallo already imports juices from Chile. I am not a farmer, but have had conversations with them, and that is their plight--imported juices. "

Caspian wrote on Sep 17, 2007 7:26 AM:

" To a Farmer's Wife: You are so true and you do not know how many non-farmers realize the truth of your words. We feel sorrow that city planners and developers see this land as something else--development. Time will be the telling factor when we realize that farmland will be the most cherished land in the United States. "

WY wrote on Sep 16, 2007 12:29 PM:

" Sam.. that's the truth about Woodbridge wine. The zin changed too. "

WY wrote on Sep 16, 2007 12:27 PM:

" I thought so... Our area grapes rule! "

Scott Paulson wrote on Sep 15, 2007 1:18 PM:

" Lodi will never be a napa, hopefully it will NEVER be what YOU call a "wine destination" either... "

napa look alike wrote on Sep 15, 2007 9:05 AM:

" just look at the area of Clements if you want the rolling hills/Mokeulmne River and views like a napa. Winerys should take note of what Napa has and just look east of Lodi "

T. Rimby wrote on Sep 14, 2007 8:17 PM:

" Whatev... "

A farmer's wife wrote on Sep 14, 2007 3:30 PM:

" Our grapes go to wineries not only here in Lodi, but also to wineries in Sonoma and Ceres. Lodi is the winegrape capital of the world for a reason- we have the perfect soil/weather to produce the best possible winegrape. T RIMBY- how dare you take a stab at farmers like that! This is Lodi, and there are lots of farmers... if you dont like it, check out the bay. How could you possibly say grape growers are not farmers?! Get a clue!! "

WY wrote on Sep 13, 2007 11:12 PM:

" Sam... didn't this area produce grapes for othe wineries? Yeah our grapes to other wineries.Not our wineries using other grapes. That's what I mean. "

sam wrote on Sep 13, 2007 3:49 PM:

" Actually Caspian, I personally think it really does matter where the jioce comes from. An example, I used to love Woodbridge Chardonnay. They used mostly local grapes. After they sold to Constellation they have been using a lot of grapes from the Fresno area. I can barely swallow the stuff now. I believe you can really taste where the grapes come from. Ask any winemaker. Better yet ... ask David Lucas from Lucas Winery. He is an expert in that area. "

WY wrote on Sep 12, 2007 8:17 PM:

" Is that Rimby guy being funny? "

WY wrote on Sep 12, 2007 8:16 PM:

" Caspain... The Lodi area use to produce for wineries outside the area. So I would say, no to your question but, I'm not a farmer. "

WY wrote on Sep 12, 2007 3:51 PM:

" There is such a good feel in the air today, even the horses were relaxed today. Not to hot. A nice breeze. Nice weather for a Grape Festival. I'm in the mood for a stomp! I'm going to get my face painted an I want a taco an a beer. Let's party! "

Caspian wrote on Sep 12, 2007 3:48 PM:

" Once the Van Ruttins develope their land, they will just buy grape juice from Chile to produce their wines (which is becoming the cases for many wine-makers). If a wine-maker has the right ingrediences/formula, does it matter where the juice comes from? "

WY wrote on Sep 12, 2007 1:34 PM:

" Mama is ready. I told her my blog name and she is to only tell you. She figured out who you are for me. That Onus lable is the bomb! Their wine IS yummy. I'll see you around real soon. :) "

T.Rimby wrote on Sep 12, 2007 12:38 PM:

" The Farmer reference was towards the grape growers, not "legitimate" crop farmers, please pay attention and stay with the conversation... "

T. Rimby wrote on Sep 12, 2007 12:37 PM:

" Obviously, the uninformed are out in droves today..... "

sam wrote on Sep 12, 2007 9:58 AM:

" WY, small world. The Onus mama and papa our dear friends of ours. I will ask the mama who you are. I have know those Onus boys for decades. Watch their dust... their winery will be a huge success. Their wine is to die for. "

sam wrote on Sep 12, 2007 9:55 AM:

" to TO: I have another business that is based on my talent and passion. It started as a hobby and became a full blown successful career. I love it. It definitely helps when grape prices are terrible. I know a lot of families who have 2 careers and 2 incomes. "

WY wrote on Sep 11, 2007 10:14 PM:

" Sam...Onus is kick'n booty! Their wine is good! I remeber those boys when they where dinky. I know all those people you speak of. West side farmers. I must know you. If you go to Onus mama she can find me. I'll tell her. She has a bottle here and there we can open one and hang. or BYOB. "

Kate wrote on Sep 11, 2007 6:38 PM:

" To Here's An Idea: I would love to buy Mr. Fink's land. How about $10,000 an acre. It is bare land. That is what Ms Hitchcock's paid Berkley Advisor's said the Armstrong land is worth. Heck, Mr. Fink I will even give you $20,000 an acre. That is twice the value Lodi's paid advisors said Armstrong Land is worth. It is only 1/8 of a mile from Ms Hitchcock's green belt. Should have the same value, right? I will pay CASH. "

sam wrote on Sep 11, 2007 6:14 PM:

" T. Rimby, don't talk with your mouth full. "

to sam wrote on Sep 11, 2007 5:40 PM:

" As much as I respect you and your words of wisdom, I have to ask why you have another business to supplement your "farming"? Do you use it for a tax advantage? Most of these boutique wineries are just tax hedges, usually for the wealthy. Those new hummers they bought got them a 25 or 35 thousand tax write off for their "businesses". The Langes lease most of their land and grow the same generic grapes with different names. They're a corporate business, not a "farm" I believe. "

to T. Rimby wrote on Sep 11, 2007 5:12 PM:

" Quit eating. "

T. Rimby wrote on Sep 11, 2007 4:23 PM:

" Farmers are ruining this town... "

sam wrote on Sep 11, 2007 3:59 PM:

" I could go on and on. These local wineries have the younger generation with their college degrees coming back home to join in the family business to make fabulous wines. I think you are making a big mistake referring to these businesses as mere tax shelters. "

sam wrote on Sep 11, 2007 3:58 PM:

" Another favorite is Onus Winery, currently operating out of the family garage. Brad makes a stellar wine. Watch him and his brothers... they will be huge. "

sam wrote on Sep 11, 2007 3:58 PM:

" What about Lange's. They are so successful they employ the entire family too. And Mettler's... another fantastic wine. I cannot forget Ripken's. They did not start as a winery, but they are now amazing. They are another family business success. "

sam wrote on Sep 11, 2007 3:57 PM:

" to TO : look at Phillips Farms. They started as a small farm/ fruitstand. Then opened a restaurant and started dabbling in wine making. They are a huge success as winemakers. Van Rueten's , another success. How about Borra's Winery. Steve started with vineyards and an irrigation company, then added a winery. His wine is a treasure. His entire family works with him to help make it a success. "

Oscar wrote on Sep 11, 2007 3:29 PM:

" Ok, where to begin? Van Ruiten, Lucas, Ripken, Phillips, Berghold, Pierano, Matson, Harmony, Jesse's Grove ...... need I go on? T&C, you're dead wrong on this one. You better move on to the next subject. That hole you're digging is just getting deeper and deeper. The grape growers/wine maker's in this community deserve our support. Better get on that band wagon now! "

to Oscar wrote on Sep 11, 2007 2:20 PM:

" Say what you want, but bottom-line, these "boutique" wineries are nothing but another business ploy for the tax write-off. Just what the hell is a "boutique" winery and what constitutes one? Susie's designation? Do they sell clothes and accessories, too? T & C Please show me one that's making a profit and which family or farm it's connected to. "

Oscar wrote on Sep 11, 2007 1:49 PM:

" Thank you Sam. Therefore these boutique wineries need customers. They are not going to make it with just local support. If they want the community to be involved in events like the Zin Fest then we should support it whole heartedly. T&C's comment that these are just tax write-off's is just irresponsible. I beginning to think you're not as "well connected" as you have pretended to be. "

sam wrote on Sep 11, 2007 1:03 PM:

" A Farmer's Wife, I agree. Lodi winemakers are some of the best around. I LOVE Lodi wines. I have my favorites and also like to try a different Lodi wine a couple times a month. We have a goldmine here in this area with some of our local wines. "

Lodian wrote on Sep 11, 2007 1:02 PM:

" Lodi is on the right track to attracking tourists however, the city counsel needs to enact a dress code for minors. This would greatly increase tourism. "

A farmer's wife wrote on Sep 11, 2007 10:43 AM:

" Oscar you are correct, if growers dont own their land free and clear, they could definitely be in a lot of trouble right now. "

A farmer's wife wrote on Sep 11, 2007 10:43 AM:

" I simply said people dont give Lodi enough credit for the excellent wine we produce here. People love Napa Valley for the scenery and therefore love the wines. Just becuase Lodi isnt as attractive as Napa Valley, doesnt mean our wines dont compare. I agree that Lodi is not a tourist attraction, nor will it be, but I want people to taste our wine and see that Lodi has a LOT of great wines to offer. "

sam wrote on Sep 11, 2007 9:47 AM:

" And to T. Rimby, I do not think the farmers are trying to turn Lodi into a tourist destination. I believe that is the goal of Ms Hitchcock and your CC. I have no desire to be a tourist destination. "

sam wrote on Sep 11, 2007 9:46 AM:

" I am not complaining. I would not change my life style for anything. We love farming and living in our vineyard. "

sam wrote on Sep 11, 2007 9:44 AM:

" I have a neighbor who is letting his merlot crop rot on the vine because he can not get enough to cover the picking charges. Remember he has worked all year, sprayed, pruned, etc. without being paid. He will go even further in debt if he pays to have it picked. "

sam wrote on Sep 11, 2007 9:43 AM:

" Oscar, you are so right. We own all our land and I also run a fulltime business (non-farm related) so we can "afford" to farm. With Gallo and Constellation buying more grapes from Australia and South America, it is hard to find buyers. "

Oscar wrote on Sep 10, 2007 4:53 PM:

" Sam, help me out on this one. Just how wealthy are the grape growers these days? If they didn't own their land free and clear they'd be a world of hurt. Correct? "

Oscar wrote on Sep 10, 2007 4:51 PM:

" You are absolutely wrong about the growers getting into the wine business. Many have done this because the demand and/or payment for their crops have dropped off so dramatically they've gotten into the business out of necessity. Take the time to talk with a few of them. Many of them also have a passion for the wine making. I guarantee the grape growers don't need "write-offs", they're looking for income. "

T. Rimby wrote on Sep 10, 2007 4:46 PM:

" Lodi cannot and should not ever be a "wine destination", that is ludicrous, please do not allow "farmers" to turn our town into a tourist trap..... "

sam wrote on Sep 10, 2007 4:46 PM:

" I am not condemning, it is just a different way of living. Napa Valley has it. Lodi does not. Lodi used to have it. I remember 35 years, Lodi had it then. Lodi has lost that slow, sweet, warm way of life that was a marketable tourist destination. "

sam wrote on Sep 10, 2007 4:45 PM:

" Caveman, I agree. I live in a vineyard, yet I drive to Napa Valley for their bike tours. Napa Valley provides the "feel and ambience" of the country way of life: slow, easy going, and enjoy doing nothing but being and breathing. Lodi seems more like Stockton, "hurry, rush, quick and entertain me" kind of feel. "

Caveman wrote on Sep 10, 2007 1:28 PM:

" I just spent the last 3 days in bicylce touring in Napa. So much of what has been said here about the ambience of Napa vs. Lodi is true. Tourism focused on the wine industry without supporting ventures is like spitting in the wind. Just the fact that I was on a bicycle shows that Napa has something different. Do we see many bike tours of the Lodi grape industry? One, maybe two per year? Any that attract 400 plus riders? I used to think tourism was the way to go, but have now changed my mind. "

T & C wrote on Sep 10, 2007 12:28 PM:

" Oscar, just how many of those "boutique" wineries are simply tax write-offs for their larger operations. I'll bet over half, if not more. They're no more serious about making making more money and paying more taxes than a doctor or lawyer, who usually invest in businesses like these for the tax write-offs, too. Wake up Oscar, you and your "buds" play the same game. "

Al D. wrote on Sep 10, 2007 8:19 AM:

" Obv. Lodi has a bunch of Pessimistic cynical bloggers. If this town is so lame and boring for you then 1 question Why are you still here? "

Caspain wrote on Sep 10, 2007 7:44 AM:

" And by the way, Spanos already owns a winery in the Napa Valley. "

Oscar wrote on Sep 9, 2007 7:52 PM:

" I will put my faith in the local grape growers and wineries to determine if Lodi will be a wine tourist attraction. These guys/gals put their money and livliehoods on the line. How many local boutique wineries do we now have in the area? I suppose all you "experts" know better. Quit complaining and get behind these people. "

Here's an idea.... wrote on Sep 9, 2007 6:51 PM:

" Hey, Kate, why don't you buy Mr. Fink's land or any other farm land close to Lodi, plant some grapes or farm the one's already there and watch the money flow into your bank account. Start a small winery and make even more. Lodi is the next Napa. Yea right. I love when other people have great ideas on how to use someone's land. I am sure if you owned it you would just sell strawberries. "

sam wrote on Sep 9, 2007 6:00 PM:

" Delta Instructor, great post. "

T & C wrote on Sep 9, 2007 5:52 PM:

" Since the real estate market has fallen apart, the good old boys, their puppets and the developers and builders are scraping the bottom to get some cash flow going. Now they've all got money on paper but they're very cash poor. The harebrained schemes are going to start their roller coaster ride here soon, too. I see our prominent motelier is now sponsoring some of those questionable "free dinner" seminars to sell living trust and and equities and fund stocks. Pretty hard up, huh, motel man? I've gotten 3 "invitations"already. "

T & C wrote on Sep 9, 2007 5:40 PM:

" Here I am this week in beautiful Vancouver,BC and enjoying every minute of it. I hope by the time I get back next week, we'll have our new downtown hotel started and we'll attract all those new "touristas" to Lodi to start buying some of those homes available on the market. Does Napa have a Walmart? The silly council can't even make Lodi look like and be financially stable than the real Lodi was. This CC&management team is so far out of touch with reality, it's very funny and also scary to live in once such a nice little town. "

To Delta Instructor wrote on Sep 9, 2007 3:13 PM:

" For once I agree with you. Pretty funny post, too! "

Kate wrote on Sep 9, 2007 11:08 AM:

" I hear the next area of Lodi farmland to be developed is Mr Fink's piece of land on the south-west corner of West Lane and Harney, where the strawberry stand and the driving ranch are. How are more houses going to make us a tourist destination? The quaint strawberry stand is more of a tourist draw than another subdivision. "

OTH wrote on Sep 9, 2007 8:53 AM:

" Well said Sam. A reality check is in order for the Lodi CC. "

Caspian wrote on Sep 9, 2007 4:30 AM:

" If one thinks of the new development slated around Lodi, that in itself takes away from the grape-growing and wine making appeal to the area. Lodi’s new slogan should be “Lodi, a wine drinker’s paradise; however overlook the ripping out of the vines and the development of the area; and pay no attention to the development racing toward us from the south and west—but enjoy yourself.” "

Caspian wrote on Sep 9, 2007 4:30 AM:

" Tourism in Napa is one thing, in Lodi another. The landowners in that region (the Napa Valley) have established themselves as grape growers and wine makers. In Lodi, we have to convince Spanos/Stockton and Grupe that the wine industry is profitable for them. Without their support, tourism in and around Lodi is a moot point. "

Lodi RFD wrote on Sep 9, 2007 1:28 AM:

" OMG Lodi reminds me of placerville 20 years ago. If it weren't for the three sets of stop lights ON HIGHWAY 50. Placerville would have died years ago. We have such tourist spots as watching driveby shootings Fabulous Stockton, which is the capital of Homies of Da Hood an da Hip Hop An hyphy OG morons from da high Kultur Rap rejects. "

average joe wrote on Sep 8, 2007 7:35 PM:

" golly gee,,if only lodi had a fancy motel,,i'd bring the misses and the kids to lodi for our easter break.!! "

Observer wrote on Sep 8, 2007 3:53 PM:

" And not only that, the farming community in Napa is much classier than the Lodi community. These guys have college degrees and the business backgrounds to boot. The bunch around here are poorly educated and it's generational. The smart kids know better than to hang around here and move on to greener pastures. "

You're kidding, right ?? wrote on Sep 8, 2007 3:06 PM:

" I just don't see Lodi as a tourist destination. Not a single full-service hotel (sorry, I need room service) or anything of real interest to see. "

WY wrote on Sep 8, 2007 2:58 PM:

" the old vine didn't die. But, it wasn't well. It's fine now but still, that's the mentallity. which this neighbor's home sits where a vineyard use to grow. :( they surrounded her with homes. "

WY wrote on Sep 8, 2007 2:53 PM:

" At the old house where my husbands family lives, there is a vine that was brought from Italy. My husbands grandfather made wine from this one vine. Spliced and grew more from one vine. It is very special to his family. The new bay area neighbor almost killed it handling the weeds on the old fence line. he killed many plants that were hers doing so. "

WY wrote on Sep 8, 2007 2:45 PM:

" Some wino planner started this, "lets make Lodi, Napa" movement and the charm we pride ourselves on is slipping through our fingers. "

WY wrote on Sep 8, 2007 2:38 PM:

" The vines won't grow through cement.Then what all you planners? I tell ya, Plan on not having anything to draw your tourist. "

WY wrote on Sep 8, 2007 2:37 PM:

" I remeber when lodi had vineyards as far as the eye can see. Lodi tore out the vines around my husbands family homested and now my mothers home is at threat to lose it's country and surrounding vinesyards. ("They paved paradise to ut up a parking lot") My home sits where a vineyard flurished only a decade ago. "

Colorado resident wrote on Sep 8, 2007 2:08 PM:

" Farmer's wife: I spent years living in Lodi and occasionally visit friends there so I know about Wine & Roses (I wouldn't stay there) and there is still absolutely nothing to do in Lodi! The gondola idea on Lodi Lake (Venice theme) is a good idea since it's too polluted to swim in. :) "

to farmers wife wrote on Sep 8, 2007 1:14 PM:

" So that makes us a tourist destination!!???? "

madman wrote on Sep 8, 2007 12:01 PM:

" Drive up the Napa Valley to the north of Napa. Skip Napa all together. Yountville, Oakville, Rutherford, St Helena, Callistoga, all the way to the Sonoma Valley. The area is filled with shops, restaurants, lodging, golf courses, tons of wine tasting, and those luscious rolling hills of vineyards and beautiful scenery. Now that is a tourist destination. "

madman wrote on Sep 8, 2007 12:01 PM:

" JF, right on. The city of Napa is a S--- hole. And it does resemble downtown Lodi. Napa is not a tourist destination. I agree with Sam. Napa Valley is the destination. "

sam wrote on Sep 8, 2007 10:48 AM:

" Give it up, Lodi CC. You do not have it in you to become another Napa Valley. The citizens of Lodi seem to have a different goal. They want malls, more houses, more jobs, a jr college, etc. You cannot have it both ways. "

sam wrote on Sep 8, 2007 10:47 AM:

" In Napa Valley there are vineyards as far as the eyes can see, not just a mile wide strip to try and use as a buffer. Napa Valley sees vineyards as a gift, something to treasure. Lodi sees vineyards as disposable, something to easily pave over or to use as a "divider" between two cities. Attitude is everything. "

sam wrote on Sep 8, 2007 10:47 AM:

" And to the west they are pushing more ticky tacky houses and more Big Box stores. "

sam wrote on Sep 8, 2007 10:46 AM:

" Now they are attempting to destroy vineyards to the east by plopping a poorly planned jr college surrounded by more more strip malls and tacky subdivision in the middle of those beautiful vineyards. "

sam wrote on Sep 8, 2007 10:46 AM:

" Lodi does not own any vineyards, nor does Lodi CC treasure the vineyards surrounding them. They pave over vineyards to their south with tacky subdivisions, strip malls, and Big Box retail stores. The remaining farms south of them are treated with disrespect and distain. "

sam wrote on Sep 8, 2007 10:45 AM:

" Lodi compared to Napa? Napa does not have vineyards. Napa Valley has the vineyards. The ambience of their rolling hills filled with vineyards is what draws me to visit them. I stay away from the city of Napa and love the restaraunts. lodges and gift shops that exist in the Napa Valley. "

Delta Instructor wrote on Sep 8, 2007 10:37 AM:

" Can we go to Lodi Lake and pretend we are in Venice Italy too? Napa has beautiful hills surrounding the valley. We have Stockton and Galt. "

farmers wife wrote on Sep 8, 2007 10:32 AM:

" colorado resident- what do you mean theres no place to stay?! Wine and Roses Hotel is right behind the Wine & Visitor Center! "

farmers wife wrote on Sep 8, 2007 10:31 AM:

" ijioo and colorado resident- You obviously dont know that Lodi offers the finest winegrapes in California, with the most fertile soil and best weather conditions. Napa has been overrated for years, with wineries owned by bay area investors who just want the title of "winemakers". Although Napa does offer some great wines, Lodi far surpasses in taste and quality. People enjoy Napa for scenery- its rolling hills and elaborate wineries. If WINE itself were your passion, you'd come to Lodi, regardless of whether or not there's a hotel downtown. If TOURISM is your passion, then sure, go to Napa. "

JF wrote on Sep 8, 2007 10:17 AM:

" Did Jeff Hood write this for you? Lodi, a tourist destination? WTF? Does anybody really believe "tourists will flock to visit our diverse landscape? C'mon, Lodi is a Lunar plane compared to Napa Wine Country, Downtown Napa is a S--- hole, our downtown is just like it now, Hows Biz? I rest my case. But lets build a super Wal Mart for the tourists, That will help. LOL! "

Dias wrote on Sep 8, 2007 9:40 AM:

" Along the lines of IJIOO's thesis. Giving Munsen the right to control the downtown hotel market for next to nothing was not a smart move. First, a downtown hotel will certainly impact Wine & Roses (no incentive there), second, the hospitality sector is "hot" right now but investor money is drying up fast due to Wall Street woes. By putting Munsen as a gatekeeper, he will ensure nothing will happen for the next six months and by then we would be in recession; so "good bye" hotel idea. "

T & C wrote on Sep 8, 2007 9:01 AM:

" Concentrate on bettering the city of Lodi and please don't bring another one of your good old boy $500,000 advisor-planner from the Bay area. We know their your friends and stack the deck just for you silly council puppets. "

T & C wrote on Sep 8, 2007 8:58 AM:

" The Wine&Roses couldn't even make it as a wine destination, only an overpriced motel. Again, Lodi is Lodi, not Napa. Quit wasting our tax dollars on those visitors' centers that're just wine directories and their high-salaried totem pole execs and get the chamber to work on bringing businesses here to Lodi, not importing jobs and especially county wines and wineries to countries like Costa Rica. "

to ijioo wrote on Sep 8, 2007 8:32 AM:

" Thank you very much! You are exactly right! "

Colorado resident... wrote on Sep 8, 2007 8:11 AM:

" In addition to no place to stay in Lodi, there is nothing to do. Wine tasting? You stay in Napa to do winery tours. "

No place to stay in Lodi wrote on Sep 8, 2007 8:05 AM:

" I've had occasion to visit Lodi but there is no place nice to stay there! We have to drive in from the Bay Area and drive back in order to have a nice hotel room. Even a Hampton Inn would help. "

ijioo wrote on Sep 8, 2007 7:18 AM:

" Repeat after me. Lodi was not, is not and will never be NAPA. This misguided dream of turning Lodi into napa is going to cost this city millions, in addition to what is already spent. Get some worthwhile jobs and stop chasing the tourist dollars, it is a waste of time and money. "

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