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(Marc Lutz/News-Sentinel)

No big box limits planned in Lodi; Supercenter vote to come this fall

By Chris Nichols
News-Sentinel Staff Writer
Friday, August 17, 2007 6:31 AM PDT

While city leaders in Stockton, Galt and Elk Grove have moved this summer to limit the size of future big box stores, their counterparts in Lodi have no plans to do the same.

Instead, the city will likely decide next month whether to allow a new 226,000 square-foot Wal-Mart Supercenter at the corner of Kettleman Lane and Lower Sacramento Road — across from the existing Wal-Mart.

In considering the project, city leaders say they're following the will of the public. Lodi voters in November 2004 shot down a proposal to curb the size of retail stores, by a 57 percent to 42 percent margin.

"We had a vote ... Am I supposed to second guess the citizenry?" said Mayor Bob Johnson, noting he would "absolutely not" support size limits on future big box stores.

The City Council, including Johnson, approved an earlier version of the Supercenter plans in 2005. But a San Joaquin County Superior Court judge overturned that approval, citing the need for more study of the project's effects.

Critics of the Supercenter plans have remained quiet during the past few months, waiting for Wal-Mart consultants to complete the new reports. Those will address the Supercenter's effect on Lodi's economy, agriculture and its draw on the city's electric utility.

Aaron Rios, Wal-Mart's Central Valley spokesman, could not be reached for comment.

Local residents respond
"I think we should have a Supercenter here. When I visited one in Florida, everything was under one roof."
Mary Morgan
retired, Lodi
 
"I think it's a good idea. We've been going to Stockton (and its Supercenter) the last couple nights. Everything would be in one store ... and hopefully cheaper."
David Garcia
carpenter, Woodbridge
 
"What I've seen of these Supercenters (in other towns) ... everything else died around it. I'm not sure that would happen here ... I'd like to have a more convenient place to shop, but Stockton is not that far away."
Kristy Amrine
homemaker, Galt
 
"I think it'd be a negative. I think we have enough stores. I think it would push the little stores out."
Marla Parsons
business owner, Lodi
 
"(It would be) closer and more variety ... it'd bring more jobs."
Henry Perez
Galt
 
"It's something I support — we need the tax dollars. If you were going to fight Wal-Mart, you should have done it 10 years ago before the other one went in."
Jack Wixon
retired, Lodi
 
"I think it's a good thing because they can turn the old Wal-Mart into something teenagers can use, like a bowling alley."
Katie Nightengale
cosmetology student, Lodi
 


Betsy Fiske, a Lodi homemaker who has actively opposed the Supercenter, said the Stockton

City Council's recent big box ban was "encouraging."

Passed on Tuesday, the decision blocks businesses larger than 100,000 square-feet and containing full-size grocery stores from being built.

"I just wonder why Lodi feels the need to go against the grain," said Fiske, a member of Lodi First, a group critical of the Supercenter plans.

City Councilwoman JoAnne Mounce, who supported the Supercenter plans in 2005, said those opposed to the project need to look at the city's "bigger picture."

"Our commercial development is vital," she said. "Our residential stock is fat. If we don't grow in this matter, we're going to have some tough times."

She noted that she would listen to a discussion on big box store limits if it was brought to the city. But as far as supporting an ordinance on that, "it depends on how well it's written."

Mounce noted that she would support higher-paying businesses than Wal-Mart, if they were to come to town.

"Where are they?" she asked. "If Lodi can entice them, oh my gosh, that'd be awesome. And I'd go to apply to get one."

The big box ordinances passed by Stockton and Elk Grove, and considered by Galt, follow similar moves by cities in the Bay Area in recent years. From Concord to Antioch to Brentwood, leaders have either rejected new Supercenters or passed bans limiting future ones.

Stockton's move was especially significant, said a former member of the now-defunct Small City Preservation Committee.

"I think it's really historic that the Stockton City Council has passed the ban because they were really the city that looked at, and allowed, any kind of development," said Robin Knowlton, owner of the Knowlton Gallery in Downtown Lodi. "I hope that it gives the city of Lodi leaders a little courage to say 'no' to the Supercenter stores."

The city expects to receive Wal-Mart's supplemental reports next week. Staffers will then review them and make them public within a few weeks, said Randy Hatch, Lodi's chief planner.

From there, the Lodi Planning Commission will likely hold a public hearing on the studies. The City Council then would hold its own hearing and make a final vote, he said.

The city has recommended Wal-Mart pay a "downtown impact fee" to offset the losses Downtown businesses could face if the Supercenter opens. At $4.50 per square foot, the fee could generate more than $1 million and be used for an array of programs, from new business loans to employee training.

Wal-Mart could also be required to compensate for the loss of agricultural land. City planners have suggested a "one for one ag easement" plan, in which Wal-Mart would preserve an equal number of acres of farmland as it eliminates, Hatch said.

Contact reporter Chris Nichols at chrisn@lodinews.com.

Reader Feedback

Why? wrote on Aug 25, 2007 10:14 PM:

" To Chuck - well, I don't shop there, for the most part, although I've gone to Sheri's and the theater once in awhile. Still, there's nothing downtown has that would be available at Wal-Mart. "

Just the Facts wrote on Aug 25, 2007 7:38 PM:

" T&C, would you cite specifically which homes on the east side will be receiving these funds and who the owners are? Just looking for the facts, not supposition. "

Chuck wrote on Aug 24, 2007 6:48 PM:

" To: Why... High-End?? Have you even been down town??? Trendy? yes.. Over priced?? for sure.. High end?? I think not "

T& C wrote on Aug 24, 2007 5:37 PM:

" Lodi business person, you're right. First, the CC gets Gillespie, Douchette and the developers to ante up over $1 million to fix up "certain" houses on the east side as mitigation to approve their projects. Of course, those are the dumps owned by the CC and good old boys themselves and now they want Wallyworld to pay downtown for bankrupting them and closing their businesses. Good job greedy CC. We all now know who you pander to and that your own enrichment is your only goal. "

T & C wrote on Aug 24, 2007 3:13 PM:

" Those suffering downtown businesses, such as the Rosewood and Lodi Beer and the franchises all need any subsidies they can get. Why do you think they're doing so well to begin with? "

Lodi Businessperson wrote on Aug 24, 2007 1:49 PM:

" I agree with "Why". What kind of compensation will you be giving businesses in the Lakewood Mall? How about the Vineyard or K-Mart Shopping Centers? This is ridiculous that some businesses in town will receive special compensation if the Super Walmart is built. Shouldn't we all be compensated. I don't think so. I'll be happy to stand behind my reputation and service any time. "

Irony wrote on Aug 24, 2007 10:30 AM:

" The irony of this past post regarding the Planning Commissioner dating the developer's attorney is that the Planning Commissioner is one of the most anti-Walmart Commissioner's on the Commission. He has made it as difficult as possible for Walmart to come to town. Must make for some great pillow talk. "

architect +attorney wrote on Aug 23, 2007 9:51 PM:

" I wonder which planning commisioner shouldn't be able to vote on the wal mart deal? Hint: its the one whose dating the developer's attorney.... "

Why? wrote on Aug 23, 2007 9:03 PM:

" Why a "downtown impact fee"? What does downtown have that Wal-Mart has and will take away? High-end cafes and restaurants? High-end clothing and houseware stores? Specialized health foods? Art galleries? A theater? You can't find any of that at Wal-Mart. What about the merchants in other parts of Lodi? Can the Kettleman Lane stores and restaurants charge downtown an impact fee? "

To: Brian wrote on Aug 22, 2007 8:19 PM:

" Hey like I said mind your own business. Lucky for us you left Lodi, now let us decide for ourselves whether we want a Wal-Mart. At least now when I read your hundreds of posts I'll know you dont even live here and disregard them. "

Lodi Voter wrote on Aug 22, 2007 1:41 PM:

" Why is this still an issue in this community. We don't need "forums" or any further discussions. No one needs to "second guess" or speculate any further. Either respect the wishes of the voting public or be prepared to face the electorate yourselves. Maybe sooner than you might expect. "

WM Shopper wrote on Aug 21, 2007 3:37 PM:

" But T&C, you admitted in an earlier post on this blog (8/17-7:59 AM) that you purchase two of your medications at Lodi's Walmart. What is it? "

Chuck wrote on Aug 21, 2007 2:11 PM:

" Don't kid your self, Walmart contributes far more than the locals do to this city... "

T & C wrote on Aug 21, 2007 11:15 AM:

" I don't condemn anyone for shopping at Walmart, that's their choice. I just prefer not to myself because I am a firm believer in supporting my own local business people here in Lodi , with the exception of the good old boys. If I need one of their products or services, I go to Stockton. That's where my financial portfolio is and where I shop is my choice. I'm fortunately far from poor and don't have to watch my pennies, that's why I'd rather see many local businesses provide my services and goods. "

WM Shopper wrote on Aug 21, 2007 7:49 AM:

" Hey T&C, no response to Oscar's comment about your shopping at Walmart for your medications but it's not ok for anyone else to shop there? What a hypocrite! "

Brian wrote on Aug 21, 2007 7:44 AM:

" Hey To;Brian, It's not up to you how I view or what I write on. I happen to know a lot about Lodi. Since I did live there for many years. Are you one of those who wishes they would roll up the sidewalks at night in Lodi and put up barb wire to keep out the unpleasantries? Go jump in the lake. "

Caveman wrote on Aug 20, 2007 11:33 AM:

" Mayor Bob, you've second guessed the citizenry before and will do it again! If we must have a SWM, then make sure they pay all the fees and make darn sure the design of the building is suitable for sub-dividing, not like the current WM. If this store closes in 5-10 years who will fill it. "

Lodian wrote on Aug 20, 2007 7:45 AM:

" Doo Dah Homies & Riff-Raff: "Small towns...small minds"??? I fear that's exactly what the giant Wal-Mart will bring to Lodi. "

got sumpin2say wrote on Aug 19, 2007 9:17 PM:

" Re: the proposed "downtown impact fee" (to offset the losses downtown businesses should face) that could raise a million dollars: Wonder which fancy out-of-town consultant will get huge fees to tell us how to use that money? With so many smart brains on the council, certainly they, themselves, could figure out a "program" to waste it away. It's doubtful any downtown businesses would lose anything to Wal Mart - the superstore will not be selling "junktiques" or recycled clothing. People who shop at the few good stores downtown won't be going to Wal Mart. "

To; Brian wrote on Aug 19, 2007 10:00 AM:

" If you live in Phoenix, why do you care. Mind your own business. "

T & C wrote on Aug 19, 2007 9:03 AM:

" Isn't the land the Superwally is building on owned by either Geweke or ex-mayor Randy Snyder? If that's the case, you can consider it a done deal, guaranteed. The original agreement was that Walmart have its own building leased before moving across the street. Now, council says they can just demolish it if they want. WHAT? Pusue this city attorney and Ms. Mounce, you work for us Lodians, not Walmart. Or do you? "

Walmart okay BUT wrote on Aug 19, 2007 1:24 AM:

" WE DON"T WANT THE LOW-LIFE gun toting pants around the knees, do-rag wearing hoodies from Stockton. GO BACK TO HOMIETOWN. "

To Reply to blogger wrote on Aug 19, 2007 1:20 AM:

" You forgot ONE IMPORTANT STATISTIC. STOCKTON-LODI is the AUTO THEFT capital of the US. We also have a big problems with illegal aliens driving without licenses, registration and no insurance. Isn't that special? We have so many low life, rapper-homies that there are even rap recordings about the hoods of stock-town. "

Steven wrote on Aug 18, 2007 7:45 PM:

" esayjay, are you aware that without "deplorable" conditions you refer to, there are people who would not have a job at all.... please clean up your own backyard, you "moral compass" is not needed... "

Chuck wrote on Aug 18, 2007 7:41 PM:

" Hopefully the public will get what they want... a supercenter! An overwhelming majority are in favor of this wonderful project... "

T & C wrote on Aug 18, 2007 4:35 PM:

" Hey, what's going on city council? The Stockton Record reports that you're having one-on-one meetings with Walmart representatives and lobbyists. Is that true and are you keeping notes on your PUBLIC-OWNED computers for all to see? Looks like all but JoAnne are really licking their lips. Why don't they have the courage to meet at the weekly CC meetings where the public can attend and express their opinion and ask very needed questions, especially what they're going to do with the old building and businesses they're going to leave stranded and bankrupt. "

Just the Facts wrote on Aug 18, 2007 9:44 AM:

" Just made a phone call to confirm that no local resident owns any property where Walmart currently resides nor where the proposed site sits. It's some company in the Bay Area. The only local who owns property on that corner is Geweke and his site is almost full. Just the facts! "

Doo Dah Homies & Riff-Raff wrote on Aug 18, 2007 8:52 AM:

" Well, Maybe Lodi can arrange to have checkpoints going in-and-out of town to make sure the "doo dah homies & riff-raff" don't cross the boundary to shop at the new Wal-Mart! Small towns...small minds. "

Brian wrote on Aug 18, 2007 8:14 AM:

" They keep on building giant retail strip malls here in Phoenix even though there are many others that have lost their anchor stores. If you want to see what Lodi could turn into just make a visit to Phoenix. So far, Lodi has been pretty careful in their planning. I'm not against the supercenter. Let's just be careful. "

Get Over It esayjay.... wrote on Aug 18, 2007 6:59 AM:

" Reality of sweat shops in China, asia and Mexico is a fact but this is reality, not your lil utopia viewpoint! Millions of stores in America buy the same products Wal-Mart does, but you don't whine about them because you shop there and pay more! Change happens thru change. I cannot change China...can you? "

To T & C... wrote on Aug 18, 2007 6:51 AM:

" They have the choice of re-renting the building...(not likely), sub-dividing the building into smaller shop space, like a (mini-Mall, to tearing it down so more retail space the same size as others near it can be rented! "

This Loyal Wal-Mart Shopper Says.... wrote on Aug 18, 2007 6:49 AM:

" I am a disabled vet and Wal-Mart improves my quality of life on my monthly income! BUT.... When the NEW wal-Mart Supercenter comes to Lodi, SURPRISE.... I will still buy my food at Food 4 Less, or Safeway when a sale is on! I am happy where I buy food! Everyone else will do the same. If they love using PLASTIC to shop at high priced groceries they will still do it. No grocer employee was guaranteed $20.00 an hour for life. Lower your pricers to compete! "

My Apologies To Readers Who... wrote on Aug 18, 2007 6:42 AM:

" read "Does Walmart deserve to grow here?"'s comments! Wal-Mart is a very clean store. Spills will happen in any store, that is common sense. But they clean their spills like any other store does! There are those who will ALWAYS whine about Wal-Mart, but guess what? Every major store gets products from China, Mexico, and other third world countries! Get over it! Don't ya just have to smile when people who HATE wal-Mart say they shop there? "

It's A No Brainer! wrote on Aug 18, 2007 6:38 AM:

" If you do not like to shop at Target...don't go there! The same is true of Wal-Mart! Those who hate Wal-Mart and arer HAPPYING paying more $$$$ for the same product elsewhere, please pay more! I see only helpful associates, smiles, good quality, low prices, happy customers, "Exchange, exchange or credit if a customer is unhappy! America is built on free enterprise! LEAVE WAL-MART ALONE! "

keep lodi safe wrote on Aug 18, 2007 1:28 AM:

" I do not want a super walmart in lodi...i've been to the super walmart in stockton and it's scary...the store attracts ghetto thugs who burglarize the cars in the parking lot...keep stockton people in stockton and let them destroy THEIR town...is more tax money for the city really worth the hardships that this will cause...I don't know about you but there is no price tag on my quality of life and safety "

to To Katie wrote on Aug 17, 2007 11:41 PM:

" Maybe we can make the old Wal-Mart building a place where people like you can go and b!tch all day about all the teenagers. Or maybe we could send all the teenagers to your house. Ya, that's it! Where do you live, deary? "

Roger I. wrote on Aug 17, 2007 10:16 PM:

" Is the Supercenter on Hammer Lane closing? If not, then most of the "riff-raff" that some are concerned about will continue to shop there. Yes, we may get some "spill-over", but is that enough to stop the WSC? Regardless, I won't be shopping there as I don't support the Walmart here in town. My concern is what will happen to Food 4 Less, S-MART and Safeway? Will the potential loss of tax revenue from these and possibly other smaller stores still make the WSC beneficial? Does someone have an answer or even considering this? "

Sam wrote on Aug 17, 2007 9:47 PM:

" Oscar, I am sorry. Costco is going in on the corner of 99 frontage and Harney. My bad. I did hear that Home Depot "may" be interested in that area too. "

T & C wrote on Aug 17, 2007 9:03 PM:

" Your CC is going to let Walmart demolish their old building so they can generate that profit for one of your wealthy Lodi families, who're running out of time before Walmart cancel their deal with them and decides to build elsewhere. Your lovely CC will do anything to bail out these good old boys. "

T & C wrote on Aug 17, 2007 8:59 PM:

" Why don't you start with your own corrupt little town and replace the entire city council and management duds? They lie to further enrich themselves and the good old boys "buddies" in the guise of new walmart stores and higher utility rates and taxes and never show you where that money actually goes. Your city council controls all of the "get out of jail free" cards. "

Oscar wrote on Aug 17, 2007 8:07 PM:

" Sam, you are correct about Home Depot. However, they were first interested in the Walmart location but couldn't wait any longer to find out when they would be able to move in. When the Blue Shield property became a possibility, they jumped on it. There is no way the intersection of Lower Sac and Kettleman is not attractive to retail businesses. "

ReplyToBlogger wrote on Aug 17, 2007 7:09 PM:

" Blogger, what changed Stockton's mind was that last week all national media reported Stockton as the Foreclosure Capital of the US. Having already #2 rankings in the nation for crime, Stockton thought that one more supercenter that it currently has will make it the Nation's Supercenter Capital. Apparently all of the above categories of excellence broke the camel's back. "

Ivan Dixon wrote on Aug 17, 2007 6:54 PM:

" What I love about Walmart is all the stuff they throw in for free. When I buy baby toys at Walmart, they throw in lead paint for free. When I buy pet food at Walmart, they throw in the rat poison for free. When I buy my Chinese made clothes, they throw in the blood stains from the real, authentic political prisoners/slave laborers for free. What more could a bargain seeking American want? "

moo wrote on Aug 17, 2007 6:44 PM:

" I bet a Trader Joes would fit just fine in that empty space! "

Commonsense wrote on Aug 17, 2007 5:52 PM:

" What's all this hand wringing about? The majority of citizens voted to approve a Super Wal Mart. Build it and move on. Stop all of the whining. "

GovAgent wrote on Aug 17, 2007 5:14 PM:

" Super Walmart needs to be in Lodi! People are driving to stockton to shop there. Lodi needs the tax. The lodi small business owners will not be effected if they give good service and products. Besides opening a business that competes with corporations is not wise. Just like starbucks, people will go to them no matter where they are, they are faithful customers. "

sam wrote on Aug 17, 2007 4:52 PM:

" Oscar, Home Depot is going in on the corner of Harney and 99 frontage. They are not interested in the old Walmart. "

To Katie wrote on Aug 17, 2007 4:28 PM:

" A bowling alley for the spoiled brats? Thats jiust what we need, more "high class" activities. Why not add a few more cigarette stores and tatoo joints. Maybe we can spiff up the area with another Goodwill, Salvation Army and another homeless park, like Blakely. "

I agree wrote on Aug 17, 2007 4:25 PM:

" Walmart Supercenter in itself isn't pure evil its all the "Doo daH" homies who will be attracted to buy their "Do rags" and hair gel in Lodi. Keep these vermin out. Do your crimes in Stockton hoods - we don't want that trash here. "

esayjay wrote on Aug 17, 2007 3:34 PM:

" " I have been to several Super Walmarts while traveling in Colorado, Utah, Wyoming, they are beautiful and conveniet stores. My concern is that the current Lodi Walmart is such a filty disorganized store that we would have a Super Filthy Store in Lodi. For a business that wants to grow within our town, they do nothing to prove that they will keep things nice. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE FILTHY AND MORALLY CORRUPT CONDITIONS WHERE MOST OF WALMARTS GOODS ARE MADE? "

blogger wrote on Aug 17, 2007 3:32 PM:

" I have a question. What happened in Stockton to make the Stockton City Council change their mind about Wal-Mart. I hope some one answers this question before the City Council goes too far--if they haven't gone too far all ready. "

esayjay wrote on Aug 17, 2007 3:32 PM:

" Big box superstore in Lodi? Yeah sure why not, we don't have enough stores selling cheap, and unsafe chinese goods in our stores now. Why not bring inmore of this stuff built on the backs of sweatshop and nearly slave labor. Why not do more business with a country controlled by a regine that has little regard for human rights, imprisons people for believing in the wrong religion, dictates what people will learn and think, forces population control on young couples. Yeah, Lodi could use more of that. "

Dias wrote on Aug 17, 2007 3:26 PM:

" I think Lodi has smarter politicians than Stockton. We also discovered this week that Stockton has a deep envy in becoming sophisticated and trendy as Lodi is. The reason for the superstore ban was image improvement. It could have backfired; most think of Stockton as less than a bright bulb now. "

Washington wrote on Aug 17, 2007 3:09 PM:

" Stockton's mistake could be an opportunity for Lodi. According to the reports the Hammer Lane store produces $865/sf of annual sales.This means $198,950,000 worth of sales from a 230,000 sf superstore. Lodi will collect $1,989,500 of sales tax revenue each year (1% of sales). Stockton's feable example was an old Kmart at $120,000 would produce $650,000 converted to a lifestyle (a mere $500,000 more). It's Lodi's turn to laugh all the way to the bank. "

Oscar wrote on Aug 17, 2007 1:52 PM:

" And T&C, I'm also disappointed that you are purchasing medications from Walmart. I get mine from a locally owned pharmacy. What's the deal? If you're going to talk the talk you'd better be willing to walk the walk. "

reality wrote on Aug 17, 2007 1:51 PM:

" t/c you ought to double up on your meds. what better "public forum" can yo get than the ballot box. the naysayers lost - get over it and build SWM "

Oscar wrote on Aug 17, 2007 1:49 PM:

" You are correct T&C, the City is requiring the developer to have a tenant for the current location before approving the new store. My understanding is that they have had several potential tenants interested but then walk away because they can't tell them when the building will be available. One of them was Home Depot. As long as this matter sits in the courts and the stalling tactics continue, the current location cannot be leased. "

I wrote on Aug 17, 2007 12:23 PM:

" Great...now we get all the ghetto trash from Stockton who will come into Lodi and shop. See the store get dirty and go downhill from there....! "

oooph wrote on Aug 17, 2007 11:58 AM:

" ALL FOR IT: First, turn off the CAPS! Second, try having a bigger picture view. Just because you don't have much money (assuming that's why you shop at Wal-Mart) doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to see that a super Wal-Mart isn't good for our city. Spend a couple bucks more and keep more pooeple employed, building occupied and your self respect. Remember, you already have a Wal-Mart so enjoy it. Grocery shop at Food-4-Less. Same prices you’ll get at Wal-Mart. If you like the super Wal-Mart, drive 10 miles to the Stockton store. Lodi is better off without. "

ALL FOR IT wrote on Aug 17, 2007 10:25 AM:

" I AM ALL FOR IT. I HAVE BEEN TO SEVERAL IN OTHER STATES AND LOVE IT. IT IS ONLY THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO MONEY WORRIES OR BUSINESS OF THEIR OWN WHO DONT WANT IT HERE. WELL TO ALL THE BUSINESS OWNERS OF OTHER STORES "LOWER YOUR PRICES THEN". THEN MAYBE YOU WILL HAVE A CHANCE. "

oooph wrote on Aug 17, 2007 8:47 AM:

" So let’s see. Galt, home of the flea market, will likely stiff arm Wal-Mart & Stockton, the city that never meet a development they didn't like, are shunning Wal-Mart but Lodi says bring it on. Amazing! I thought I lived in an enlightened community. Oh well. Safeway & Smart, nice knowing you. I am sure your empty hulks (along with the current Wal-Mart) will be a big asset to Lodi. Railey's, you may have a chance since you don't really compete on lowest price anyway so good luck! "

Patricia wrote on Aug 17, 2007 8:27 AM:

" I didn't want it. But since we're stuck with it, I'm glad it's going on the west side. -- I see from reading the record that Stockton is smart enough to ban any future Supercenters. Good for them. "

T & C wrote on Aug 17, 2007 7:59 AM:

" By the way, CC, if this is what the "people" want, then let us vote on it at a public forum! Show us once that you REALLY want what we do. Have you been in that filthy superWally in Stockton? I went once shortly after opening and that's why I only go to Lodi Walmart for 2 of my medications. Most of their "major" products that're so cheap are made in childrens' sweatshops around the world. About half their employees also receive some type of welfare or public aid. These are the jobs you want? Where's BC/BS? "

Taxpayer & Citizen wrote on Aug 17, 2007 7:52 AM:

" It's like the whole economy here in Lodi is at a standstill except for the LEUD money and the absurd rates the townspeople are paying for their utilities here and the insurance money coming in. The homes are becoming available faster than they can be sold and the good old boys need a new source of income and the owner of the land for Walmart has to make something happen to show some profit for himself and the feeding chain below him. Cars and homes aren't selling, but land to cheap wage corporations is. That's just Lodi. "

T & C wrote on Aug 17, 2007 7:47 AM:

" I thought Walmart wasn't going to be allowed to move until it could find another tenant for its existing store? Wasn't that the original agreement CC? What are you going to do when they move across the street and that entire corner they're on now implodes and goes belly up? You know it's inevitable. Study other cities in the same situation and you'll see their old sites just sitting with weeds growing and the whole area depressed. Put your brain before your money once and use it! "

Mark wrote on Aug 17, 2007 7:43 AM:

" Lodi IS Wal-Mart. "

Wow wrote on Aug 17, 2007 7:28 AM:

" Ok, here we go again. Same old and tired arguments. This matter should be a done deal. We all know it's a grocer's union issue. Local businesses have survived for over ten years with Walmart in town. Downtown has improved quite nicely. Let's get on with it. The City should be embracing the Supercenter, not try to squeeze them for every penny. Treat them like every other business. No more, no less. "

Does Walmart deserve to grow here? wrote on Aug 17, 2007 7:12 AM:

" and for those of you that are going to excuse them because it is an old store or because they are saving costs because they are building a new store - the Lodi Walmart has never been clean and organized past the first year of opening. I have been in Walmarts much older in other parts of the country and they are better cared for than Lodi was in the beginning. "

Does Walmart deserve to grow here? wrote on Aug 17, 2007 7:08 AM:

" I have been to several Super Walmarts while traveling in Colorado, Utah, Wyoming, they are beautiful and conveniet stores. My concern is that the current Lodi Walmart is such a filty disorganized store that we would have a Super Filthy Store in Lodi. For a business that wants to grow within our town, they do nothing to prove that they will keep things nice. "

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