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Lodi scores low on race acceptance

Survey: Residents feel city is not tolerant of diversity

By Matt Brown
News-Sentinel Staff Writer
Wednesday, August 1, 2007 7:09 AM PDT

Lodi residents feel the city is not open toward people of a diverse background, according to a citywide survey that asked participants to rank diversity acceptance among other city characteristics such as job opportunities, air quality and the city's overall image.

Lodi gave diversity acceptance a score of 36 on a scale where 100 is excellent. The city's image received a 57.

Other findings included strong support for a greenbelt between Lodi and Stockton and a feeling that the city was growing too fast.

The results were part of the National Citizen Survey, which was conducted in May. Questionnaires were mailed out to 1,200 Lodi households and nearly 340 responded, giving the survey a statistical margin of error of 3 to 5 percent.

Cities can compare results to 500 other jurisdictions in the Colorado-based National Research Center's data base, company President Tom Miller told the City Council during its shirtsleeve session on Tuesday.

Independently, the results can be used as a report card of how the residents view their city.

Not all of the 500 cities in the database used the question on race and diversity, but of the 120 cities that did, Lodi ranked last.

Vice Mayor JoAnne Mounce said she thought Lodi had a good sense of community. She said the city's low ranking in acceptance of diversity reflects the separation of the east and west sides.

"The Eastside is culturally diverse," she said. "We need to enhance it instead of segregating it."

The survey asked participants to rate each of the following characteristics as they relate to Lodi.
How do you rate Lodi as a place to live? 65 out of 100
How do you rate Lodi as a place to work? 48 out of 100
Openness and acceptance of the community toward people of diverse backgrounds. 36 out of 100
Job opportunities. 30 out of 100
Access to affordable housing. 25 out of 100
Ease of bus travel in Lodi. 55 out of 100
Safety in your neighborhood during the day. 82 out of 100
Safety in Lodi's parks during the day. 77 out of 100
Safety in Lodi's parks after dark. 38 out of 100
Services to low income people. 35 out of 100
Source: The National Citizen Survey.

Results on the Web
To read the full results of Lodi's citizen survey, see our Web site:

Report of Results (PDF, 632KB)
Report of Norms (PDF, 235KB)

A local group known as the Breakthrough Project has been working on improving race relations in Lodi for nearly a decade.

Group member Art Raab said he thought the ongoing debate on illegal immigration was probably behind such a low ranking on diversity.

He added that while residents giving Lodi such a low score is disheartening, it also shows that people are aware it's a problem.

"There's two sides of that coin," he said. "There's recognition that there's much more to be done."

Raab said it's more disturbing when people won't admit that racial intolerance exists.

Councilman Larry Hansen said the city's lack of acceptance of diversity could partly be explained by the recent FBI investigation of a suspected terrorist cell in the Pakistani community.

But he said surveys like this are useful.

"Clearly there is more work to be done," he said. "If you're not willing to hear the answers, don't ask the questions. We're clearly willing to hear the answers."

Citizens also said Lodi is growing too fast. Residents overwhelmingly support an agricultural greenbelt between the city and Stockton to retain Lodi's small town appeal.

Other findings included that residents feel unsafe in Lodi's parks after dark, and that jobs, affordable housing and recreational opportunities are not abundant. Drugs are also considered a major problem by half of the population.

Lodi is, however, easy to get around by car, bus and bike.

Almost 70 percent of residents said population growth was too fast. Another 85 percent said they either strongly support or somewhat support a greenbelt between Lodi and Stockton.

Councilwoman Susan Hitchcock sought to seize on what the survey showed was public support for a greenbelt.

"It clearly says there is support for a community separator," she said. "We have to have the backbone to implement policy to make that happen."

Only 28 percent of respondents said they feel safe in Lodi's parks after dark, which ranks Lodi 109th out of 136 cities that answered this question. A full 86 percent of residents feel safe during the day in their own neighborhoods and Downtown, which is about average compared with other cities.

On the same 100-point scale, job opportunities received a 30 and recreational opportunities a 41. Access to affordable housing scored 25, access to affordable child care 31 and access to affordable health care 37.

Mayor Bob Johnson was perplexed that residents wanted slower growth but more economic stimulation, two contradictory values in his mind.

"Creating jobs in Lodi equates to growth," he said. "Which is it? You can't have it both ways, folks."

The one area Lodi scored well in was mobility. Residents rated ease of travel by car, bike, foot and bus above other cities, although only 24 percent of residents have ridden a bus in the last year.

Citizens' top priorities are stimulating economic development, creating jobs and creating affordable housing. Low on residents' wish lists are building an aquatic center and an indoor sports center. Residents slightly support a quarter-cent sales tax increase to fund police and fire services.

Council members said the survey, which cost $10,000, is a useful tool in helping shape policy decisions.

"It opens the discussion on a number of things," Councilman Phil Katzakian said. "That's a really good thing."

Katzakian said he was surprised to learn of the staggering support for a greenbelt, and he wanted to know why people feel unsafe in parks at night.

City Manager Blair King said he would like the city to repeat the survey every two years to measure progress. He said there was room for improvement.

"We want to look at our core services and try to improve those," he said.

Contact reporter Matt Brown at mattb@lodinews.com.

Reader Feedback

Lodian wrote on Aug 10, 2007 11:18 AM:

" continued...Politics, spending, city salaries and real-estate deals are hurting the Lodi that once was such a nice place to live. The lack of concern and respect for the youth in Lodi is also ruining the family atmosphere here. Lodi was once a family community. Where has that gone? What do the city fathers want Lodi to become? Do they care? Most are going to be retirees soon. Is that their focus? Come on Lodi, care about the future of this town. You retirees may be headed off to Florida soon, but what legacy are you leaving Lodians? "

Lodian wrote on Aug 10, 2007 11:14 AM:

" Love Lodi: I have hope too, but not much faith that Lodi will be anywhere near what it once was only a few years ago. I see the way things are going, the lack of doing what is best for Lodi and the citizens etc. There seems to be so much more focus on money and what monies can be brought into the city without as much concern over the impact as it used to be. Very disappointing. continued... "

Unification not diversification wrote on Aug 10, 2007 7:03 AM:

" These illegal Mexicans along with their patronizing friends and relatives are playing the poor innocent victim race card crap! It is not about race, it is about illegal invaders that are leaching from hard working American citizens. It is about America's future not about racial bigotry. And our corrupt government has betrayed all Americans by continuing to allow this catastrophic invasion. "

GovAgent to Roger I wrote on Aug 10, 2007 5:21 AM:

" Roger, you must be a liberal, your statement; they will fund SS is crap! there is more aid going out. Why do you fight the stats? is the FBI and INS telling us the truth? Hell no, you really need to double or triple the numbers, your right about there is error in stats, but they dont want to alarm the people! "

GovAgent to Roger I wrote on Aug 10, 2007 5:18 AM:

" The point is illegals are artificially stimulating the enconomy. Housing, Medical, and all other areas are affected. Who pays for it Roger? The middle class! and we are tired of it! All we want Roger, is for the US Government to do its job! Stop funding Mexico by the billions and destroying our country. This goes for democracts as well as Republicans. There is going to be a revolution, it is on the horizon. "

GovAgent to Roger I wrote on Aug 10, 2007 5:13 AM:

" Nice way tp water down facts. before WWI there was a big push and the country deported illegals by the bus load back to mexico. When the war started there was a need for labor and they brought them back. Since WWII they never sent them back, some have become citizens the right way. So Roger you are telling me that all the drugs, gangs, and crimes committed by both legal and illegal mexicans should not be published? It is a fact. "

Love Lodi wrote on Aug 9, 2007 8:46 AM:

" Lodian: I agree that it has changed since back then. I am in my late 30's and went to school my whole life in Lodi even though I was in N. Stockton, so I have seen a lot of change over my life too. But all in all I still think Lodi is a great place (considering what else is close by)..hopefully the City will get ahold of the problems and crime and tackle them if we complain enough! "

Roger I. wrote on Aug 9, 2007 8:29 AM:

" As more U.S. counties become more diverse, and there are plenty of legal Hispanics pushing these numbers, then what will some of you do? Let's help secure our future as Hispanics will be funding Social Security and so many of its benefits when we grow old. However, SS benefits will suffer as too many Hispanics do not have professional jobs/incomes to support the pending drought. Something to think about before we post something negative or racist about this group. "

Roger I. wrote on Aug 9, 2007 8:26 AM:

" Statistics mean nothing since the source usually "skews" numbers in their favor/beliefs. Michael Savage, now there is an unbiased, open-minded source. If anyone is upset over banks, telephone companies, and any other "corporate American" business forcing you to press "1" or "2" to speak English, then take it to the companies. I find it hard to believe that newly arrived immigrants with a 6th grade level of education are making this happen. NO! The companies are doing it to cash in on money, illegal or not. Capitalisim at it's best, or worst... "

Lodian wrote on Aug 8, 2007 1:20 PM:

" Love Lodi: I agree that Lodi is safer than Stockton, but being long time resident I can tell you that Lodi is changing and changing fast. It seems to me that the last maybe 5 to 10 years has seen a lot more change...and not all for the good. For us older Lodians it is a sad thing to watch happen. I loved growing up here, but my children don't have it as good as I did back in the day. I guess that's going to happen when a town/city starts getting this big. "

DEEDEE wrote on Aug 6, 2007 1:20 PM:

" Reading the name of the blogger will give you a hint as to who that "local" contractor just might be that uses many illegals both over and under the table! Copy "

Love Lodi wrote on Aug 6, 2007 1:07 PM:

" I am happy to live in Lodi where it is for the most part safer than the surrounding cities and has some good public schools. I was born and raised in North Stockton and will never go back due to the crime and crappy neighborhoods, and yes, some of that IS DUE to MINORITIES and just plain LOW CLASS people in general! Does that mean I am racist? We chose Lodi for the fact it is better than Stockton to live in..if that makes us racist oh well, I guess we are against the "trashy, criminal" race! "

GovAgent wrote on Aug 6, 2007 5:28 AM:

" There are banks here in Lodi knowingly cashing checks of illegals. I personally know a teller who was given the same ID with SS number three times within a 5 minute period. They went to the bank manager and said it was for sure the same ID different person. The bank manager said no questions, just cash the checks because the construction company is one of the biggest accounts! these were illegals "

T & C wrote on Aug 5, 2007 7:38 AM:

" To oldLodi Families are sad, you say you're from a mixed race family, then you sign your name white Lodian. That says it all about you.Are you ashamed of what or who you are? I'm one of those old Lodians and I'm very, very happy and love this city, not the younger generation from the eastside of Hispanic descent, who've torn this little cowtown apart. I,m also very proud of my heritage and who I am, and the sooner my fight with Lodi's corrupt circle ends, my job will be done, to serve the people, even you, white Lodian! "

Lodian wrote on Aug 5, 2007 12:20 AM:

" On the illegal issue... aren't the republicans just as responsible as the democrats for not doing enough to take care of the illegal population? If GovAgent's figures are correct, and they are staggering, then I'd say both parties are responsible. "

Lodian wrote on Aug 5, 2007 12:19 AM:

" GovAgent: WOW! Those figures are staggering! "

Lodian wrote on Aug 5, 2007 12:15 AM:

" WY: I'm with you. It's funny how some people think they are totally white. How the heck do they really know? They don't. "

GovAgent clears up white racist crap! wrote on Aug 4, 2007 5:57 PM:

" I am white, my wife is Mexican, so my 2 daughters are 1/2 and 1/2. My wifes grandparents came to the US as seasonal workers, got visas and then became US citizens the legal way. They worked for GM manufacturing vehicals and worked for the Union Pacific Rail Road. It is an honor to have inlaws who came here, worked hard without social services, and has given back 110% to the US! nice to see you WY! "

WY wrote on Aug 4, 2007 3:11 PM:

" In my family of first cousins there are Veitnamese, American-African, American Mexican,Philipino and Redneck heartlanders. It's a riot at our family reunions. The colors are all smugged together and we Laugh and tell stories and eat pot luck and have fun. The buffet is to die for. "

Seriously! wrote on Aug 4, 2007 8:25 AM:

" Who Cares?, Liberty Tree, GovAgent; that about says it all. And if things don't change soon, those who call us crazy and bigoted, are going to wake up one day and remember all we've said. If you want to be welcomed here, do the right thing "legally," And support yourselves. AND if you're a true "peace loving" person, step foreward and let your voice be heard to stop terrorist activity. "

WY wrote on Aug 3, 2007 11:11 PM:

" GovAgent... Wow! that kinda pisses you off when you're having a time getting the PG&E bill paid. Or when you have to pay your HMO, or wait in the DMV line. I want free cheese and milk! Hi there. I wrote you back, but it didn't get in the blog. How's the river? I'm ready to float. "

OldLodiansAreSad wrote on Aug 3, 2007 9:59 PM:

" There's a clear line between the born and raised Older Lodians and the newer, younger population of Lodians. For the Older Lodians, stay at home! We, the majority, the younger mixed ethnicity population are here to stay. So, unless you can open your mind, I don't want to see you. I am not going anywhere, neither is my mixed-race family, & neither are all of the other Non-PRO-White's in Lodi. I have pride for Lodi either way & will do my part to implement change in the way you older Lodians have so ignorantly set certain standards. From: WHITE Lodian "

hmmmm wrote on Aug 3, 2007 8:26 PM:

" Cut and pasted from the Lodi Profile section of he survey: Twenty-six percent of Lodi residents reported that they are Spanish, Hispanic or Latino and 76% said they are White or Caucasian. "

GovAgent to Brian wrote on Aug 3, 2007 8:00 PM:

" Yes you are right, that is where I got my sources. Michael Savage has a great website with research for us people too busy with family and job. Thanks for the response Brian! "

Brian wrote on Aug 3, 2007 5:17 PM:

" GovAgent, those are great statistics. I read them on Michaelsavage.com facts don't lie. Now the Dems want to give $25 mil to La Raza. Since when does one race have priority ove another let alone a slush fund? And this isn't racism let alone prejudice? "

Brian wrote on Aug 3, 2007 7:34 AM:

" Let's all take a trip to Saudi Arabia and see what kind of intolerance we can find there. We have your everday arrests of people of Christian faith carrying a bible. Let's see what else we can find. People being put in prison and convicted without a fair trial. Now let's come back to Lodi and make some comparisons. "

GovAgent to lodiperson wrote on Aug 3, 2007 6:43 AM:

" Read the postings I put here straight from the 2006 (First Quarter) INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants. And it is about race 100%. Our Government and President Bush, ex Pres Clinton are doing this on the backs of the middle class who make up 60% of the population. 10% are the rich, and 30% are the poor who for the most part the illegals! I might be off on percentages but they are close. "

GovAgent con8 wrote on Aug 3, 2007 6:37 AM:

" However, NONE of this will matter IF our borders are not secured OR Pres. Bush succeeds in abolishing them (via his SPP, NAU, NAFTA Hwy), and illegal alien murders, drug smugglers and terrorists continue to be welcomed into our country. The reason I write this is because our community and the valley is growing fast with illegals, not people from other parts of the country. We need to protect the green belt and that would not even be an issue if deportation of illegals were in enforced! "

GovAgent con7 wrote on Aug 3, 2007 6:28 AM:

" Also, between 2000 and 2005, the number of young (16 to 34) native-born men employed declined by 1.7 million - at the same time, the number of new male immigrant workers increased by 1.9 million. [Do you still believe the gov't employment rate stats?] ACTION: Please share this data with elected officials, particularly those who spew the PCBS about all the "contributions of illegal aliens to our society" AND "our economy would collapse without them"! "

GovAgent con6 wrote on Aug 3, 2007 6:26 AM:

" The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average illegal alien is $55,000 cost to the American taxpayer in a 5-year span. You personally pay $11,000 every year to illegal aliens. JOBS (per Center for Immigration Studies - September 2006): Between 2000 and 2005, 4.1 million immigrant workers arrived in the U.S., accounting for 86% of the net inrease in the total number of employed persons (16 & older), the highest share ever recorded in the U.S. Of the 4.1 million, between 1.4 and 2.7 million are estimated to be illegal aliens. "

GovAgent con5 wrote on Aug 3, 2007 6:24 AM:

" TAXES 62 % of all "undocumented immigrants" in the U.S. are working for cash and not paying taxes, predominantly illegal aliens are working without a green card The cost of immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 (last known calculation by Professor Donald Huddle, Rice University) was a NET (after subtracting taxes immigrants pay), $70 Billion per year. [What are the 2006 costs?] "

GovAgent con4 wrote on Aug 3, 2007 6:23 AM:

" SCHOOLS 34% of Arizona students in grades 1-12 are illegal aliens and 24% plus are non-English speaking 39% plus of California students in grades 1-12 are illegal aliens and 42% plus are non-English speaking. Los Angeles County, 5.1 million people speak English - 3.9 million speak Spanish SOCIAL SERVICES 43% of all Food Stamps issued are to illegal aliens 41% of all Unemployment Checks in the United States are to illegal aliens 58% of all Welfare payments are issued to illegal aliens Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking crops but 41% are on welfare "

GovAgent con3 wrote on Aug 3, 2007 6:17 AM:

" BIRTHS 380,000 Plus "ANCHOR BABIES" were born in the U.S. in 2005 to ILLEGAL ALIEN PARENTS, making 380,000 babies automatically U.S. Citizens 97.2% of all costs incurred from those births were paid for by American taxpayers. 66% OF all births in California are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid by taxpayers HOUSING 300,000 plus illegal aliens in Los Angeles Country are living in garages Nearly 60 % of all occupants of HUD properties in the United States are illegal aliens. "

GovAgent con3 wrote on Aug 3, 2007 6:14 AM:

" 47 % of cited / stopped Drivers in California have NO License, NO Insurance, and NO Registration for the vehicle of that 47%, over 92% were ILLEGAL ALIENS 63% of cited/stopped Drivers in Arizona have NO License, NO Insurance, and NO Registration for the vehicle of that 63 %, over 97 % are ILLEGAL ALIENS "

GovAgent con2 wrote on Aug 3, 2007 6:12 AM:

" 53 % Plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpertrated by ILLEGAL ALIENS 50 % Plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are ILLEGAL ALIENS 71 % Plus of all apprehended Cars stolden in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, and California were stolden by ILLEGAL ALIENS or "Transport Coyotes " "

GovAgent continue wrote on Aug 3, 2007 6:10 AM:

" 24.9 % OF ALL INMATES in California detention centers are Mexican Nationals here ILLEGALLY 40.1 % of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican Nationals here ILLEGALLY 29 % (630,000) Convicted ILLEGAL ALIENS felons fill our state and federal prisons at the cost of $1.5 Billion Annually "

GovAgent says check this out! wrote on Aug 3, 2007 6:09 AM:

" 2006 (First Quarter) INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants CRIME 95 % of Warrants in LOS ANGELES are for ILLEGAL ALIENS 83 % of Warrants for MURDER in Phoenix Arizona are FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS 86 % of Warrants for MURDER in Albuquerque New Mexico are for ILLEGAL ALIENS 75 % of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles, Phoenix, Albuquerque are ILLEGAL ALIENS "

To who cares wrote on Aug 2, 2007 11:49 PM:

" BRAVO Usted es muy bien. Please add the mobile vehicular blight of boomers and lowriders. I don't think our campesino friends want to look like memin with his boomer. "

Aunt Bernice wrote on Aug 2, 2007 8:17 PM:

" There is a very simple solution to the greenbelt. Require any new development to include a greenbelt on the outside perimeter of their plan. When the next development comes along, they create a new greenbelt and the old one can be developed. When you run out of room, stop, i.e. between Lodi & Stockton. "

Aunt Bernice wrote on Aug 2, 2007 8:14 PM:

" Interesting results about citizens believing that Lodi is growing too fast. That's what many posters here say with a few naysayers claiming we are in the minority. Wrong again! "

Aunt Bernice wrote on Aug 2, 2007 8:12 PM:

" Too bad the City can't get out of the mind-set that it is their job to create jobs. Wrong! Cities, Lodi included, were incorporated to provide services such as better law enforcement, water & electric, paved streets, NOT JOBS! Growth does not equate to providing jobs. "

Goobacks are here wrote on Aug 2, 2007 4:05 PM:

" The Goobacks from the future are coming and we will have NO diversity when that happens. We will all eat Gotillas and drive lowrider space ships. "

Diversity does not exist wrote on Aug 2, 2007 4:03 PM:

" The word "Diversity" was jargon in the field of population genetics. A few wannabe biologists grabbed this word because it sounded "scientific" and "objective" and started using it. The pseudoscience "ecology" is a politically correct obsession used by liberals to "prove" their socialist goals. The proletariat now use this co-opted word which has not been defined in this context. The former Nazi psychologist Dr Joseph Goebbels wrote about this in his 1928 book "Knowledge and Propaganda". He would be proud of liberals who are using the strategies that he developed to kill millions. "

i live in lodi wrote on Aug 2, 2007 12:11 PM:

" hahahah lodi is geting bigger and no one can stop it ...I love it i cant wait till lodi turns into stockton snd gslt turns into lodi "

lodiperson wrote on Aug 2, 2007 12:09 PM:

" To: 'Who Cares', You are correct. It is not about race. It is about being a responsible citizen. "

lodi's race problem wrote on Aug 2, 2007 5:22 AM:

" Well everyone should listen to Avenue Q's song "Everyone's A Little Bit Racist". Funny song :) . "

Sac Reader wrote on Aug 2, 2007 2:00 AM:

" Racism and intolerance in Lodi? No.... can't be! "

ONceLodiResidence wrote on Aug 2, 2007 12:10 AM:

" Lodi is not yet ready for a change...of any kind.. "

Lodian wrote on Aug 1, 2007 11:30 PM:

" proud ethnic majority: Well said! This has been proven over and over again. Surveys always have an agenda. It's not hard to get the answers you want. I can go out tomorrow and prove more men prefer brunettes, that doesn't mean it's true, but I can prove it nonetheless. LOL! "

Liberty Tree wrote on Aug 1, 2007 10:57 PM:

" The problem isn't all of Eastside, it is those that are still patriots of their home countries because they refuse to assimilate and are possibly illegal. Americans of Lodi should take all of Lodi Back. If American culture is not good enough for them, they can go back where they came from. "

Roger 1 wrote on Aug 1, 2007 10:07 PM:

" A supplementary question to the low diversity acceptance question should have stated, "How ignorant are Lodians to diversity, race and culture?" The answer would have been interesting, albeit much higher online since so many that respond seem to be "ignorant" per the many negative, racist and hate-filled remarks posted on many articles. "

To Sam wrote on Aug 1, 2007 9:16 PM:

" I think we all know the answer to your question........next to none! That's why Hitchcocks pet project will go down in flames. You couldn't raise enough money in taxes to pay the land owners. "

Who Cares? wrote on Aug 1, 2007 9:14 PM:

" I would bet the majority of Lodi citizens don't care if you are black, Hispanic, Asian, East Indian, etc. They want to know; Are you maintaining your property or does your house look like a dump? Are you a law abiding citizen or are you a gang member dealing drugs? Are you working, or do you and your friends hang around all day doing nothing? If your culture suggests any of this is OK, I don't want you in my neighborhood. It's not racism, it's commonsense. "

A Reader wrote on Aug 1, 2007 8:13 PM:

" Tolerating the thugs moving to Stockton from Oakland isn't a Lodi thing. Lodi historically has a higher standard of law and order than Stockton. Lodi's not compatible with some people hanging around. Educated, Law Abiding people do fine in Lodi. Thugs of any color get to meet the Lodi City Jail and the Lodi Judges. And they don't have Jails and Judges like this in Oakland. So it is a culture clash. Just a misunderstanding about who's town this is, and who's town this isn't. I have not heard any complaints from people who matter. "

HeyKatzakian... wrote on Aug 1, 2007 8:07 PM:

" You're a fly on the wall, remember... why are you commenting? "

Seriously! wrote on Aug 1, 2007 7:29 PM:

" MP? Me whitewash? Are you kidding me? Absolutely not! I feel discriminated against by the segregational tones. I am probably in the same economical staus as some of our esteemed "westerners." I resent that because I live in a moderate middle class home between Kettleman and Harney, that I'm automatically considered to be in the crime ridden trouble spots. "

Rufus Washington wrote on Aug 1, 2007 7:27 PM:

" We know the survey is crap. What we need is facts. What is our real crime rate compared to other towns, what is our housing comparisons, our health care, our child care. Diversity ?? Can anyone describe incidents of racial hostility ? I didn't think so. People look at me, I look at them. I get served just fine anywhere I go. I think this survey was a waste of time and money. "

Attn: City Council wrote on Aug 1, 2007 7:21 PM:

" Survey was a big mistake for all the reasons bloggers are posting. Save the $ 10,000 next time and use it for good. This was a farce. PS: Lodi News Senile....explain how the sample went from 1200 to 300 and never investigated, nor did the company track. That would be news. If my 8th grade math is correct, $33.00 per respondent for simple computer scanning, we all got very screwed.---- "

Bob is confused and perplexed II wrote on Aug 1, 2007 7:08 PM:

" Instead of the average Lodi job paying a few percent above minimum wage, its possible to attract real jobs and real job growth. That is not incompatible with controlling the number of people/residences (growth limits). FIRST, you have to stop the "good ol boyz" way of doing things. Reconsider your selection of neighbor "bean people" and hire those who are educated skilled and knowledgeable. Remove the "good ol bean guys" and hire professionals. Lodi is the laughing stock of California. Its great for laughs but after awhile its time to get serious. . "

Bob is confused and perplexed wrote on Aug 1, 2007 7:04 PM:

" Quoting Bob "Creating jobs in Lodi equates to growth," he said. "Which is it? You can't have it both ways, folks." Talk about confused. YES YOU CAN..of course you can. We have Lodi "good ol boyz" who derive and maintain their power by paying lousy benefits and encouraging nepotism. When the pinnacle of success is a job such as "bean manager" what do you expect? Bob, you have a very myopic view of the world (go look up the word). You need glasses or some life experiences outside of Lodi? "

Whitebread wrote on Aug 1, 2007 7:00 PM:

" Diversity is overrated. "

Major Ben Johnson wrote on Aug 1, 2007 6:13 PM:

" We dont accept "diversity" ?? If that question means I don't like hundreds of illegals from all over the world, increasing crime from stockton minorities, and head chopping murderous muslims, then the answer is correct. I do not approve of such diversity. The city council is barfing political correctness and ignorance. Where is all the race hate? On the east side Pounce Mounce !!!! "

sam wrote on Aug 1, 2007 4:07 PM:

" to LodiHomeOwner and Glen, i was curious to see that statistic too. How many people who say they want a greenbelt want to pay for it? "

LodiHomeOwner wrote on Aug 1, 2007 3:56 PM:

" To To LodiHomeOwner and Glenn: Thanks, that is what I am concerned about. Do we want a greenbelt enough to pay for it? Where is that that stat??? "

Wow wrote on Aug 1, 2007 3:19 PM:

" And City Informer, how in the world do you conclude the "upper echelon" were the only ones to receive the survey? Pull your head out! You think way too much of yourself. "

Wow wrote on Aug 1, 2007 3:16 PM:

" 364 people out of 62,000 respond and it's considered a "legitimate" survey? You've got to be kidding. I get a real kick out of the response "Lodi is growing too fast". Lodi's the slowest growing community in San Joaquin County (>.01%) and probably the entire State. These surveys are a waste of everybody's time and the City's money. It's not even close! "

mp wrote on Aug 1, 2007 12:52 PM:

" Seriously! : Oh, I get it, if we stop talking about it, the seperation between east and west will go away. You must live in a box or work at the chamber. Why are you trying to whitewash this issue? "

Seriously! wrote on Aug 1, 2007 12:44 PM:

" YO! Mayor Johnson! It was poorly written and that's why the "growth" question and the "economic stimulation," were answered according to how they read. Not the answer you wanted? And the way the CC sucked up to the vendors at the last meeting was a disgrace. How in heck did we inconvenience them by demanding that they be regulated like other merchants? "

Seriously wrote on Aug 1, 2007 12:41 PM:

" cityinformer? I think you are full of hot air. I live in southeast Lodi. Am I considered "a Lodian upper echelon"? I think not from the tone of overall Lodi. I received one of those surveys. "

to Lodi Homeowner wrote on Aug 1, 2007 12:05 PM:

" If I remember right one question asked about a parcel tax and another asked about a sales tax increase for the greenbelt and the money could be used for other things such as schools and other things not related to a greenbelt. As a property owner I would have no problem with a parcel tax to be dedicated soley for a greenbelt. I will not vote a tax to be used for anything else. We pay taxes for schools now. "

No Secret wrote on Aug 1, 2007 11:45 AM:

" Other cities, nearby and not know Lodi is full of racism, just ask them (just don't let them know you're from Lodi) Lodi has that reputation well established. "

Metric Time System wrote on Aug 1, 2007 11:42 AM:

" City Manager Blair King wants this survey repeated every 2 years to measure progress. What progress is he going to measure, the progress of a certain group's feelings? What will he do with the measurements? What's the point? Is Lodi overflowing with revenue (our tax money)that Mr. King can direct City funds to "Man On The Street" questions? "

Low on race acceptance wrote on Aug 1, 2007 11:38 AM:

" Low on race acceptance, the article is not about crime acceptance, if you are linking crime with race, guess what you might be a racist, welcome to "low on race acceptance" Lodi! Disqualify the numbers/truth all you want. At least accept it. "

cityInformer wrote on Aug 1, 2007 11:23 AM:

" I was one who received one of those surveys, my position allowed me to get myself on that list. It was just simply a survey as to whether you were a Lodian upper echelon or not. Those questions were pegged for the people with higher than average incomes to make the city look good in their own eyes. The city of Lodi is one of the most hidden racist town in northern California. Just open your eyes and you can't miss it. "

anotheropinion wrote on Aug 1, 2007 11:11 AM:

" I am in no way against diversity, but Lodi just values good citizens. I do agree diversity is good, but look at Stockton for example, who welcomes all people, bad or good. Thier crime rate is three times or more higher than that of Lodi per capita. I dont know if it is all because of race, but I would think at least part of it is. "

William Cawley wrote on Aug 1, 2007 10:30 AM:

" As one who spent 7 years in "opinion research", I agree that most polls like this are structured for a pre-determined outcome. In fact, because of the style of questions and methods, answers are automatic. The fact the pollsters did not track down all 1200 is a symptom that this was extremely sloppy. Accurate random surveys require as near to 100% of those randomly selected are included. "

Salvador Ibanez wrote on Aug 1, 2007 10:26 AM:

" Surveys like this are particularly useless since people's answers reflect more of what they have "heard" than actual facts. Who thinks their town has lots of affordable housing, plenty of jobs, cheap child care, lots of medical care??? Hence such surveys are phoney. You bloggers mentioning that these have a pre-determined outcome are quite correct. "

Longtime Lodi wrote on Aug 1, 2007 9:55 AM:

" Personally, I'm proud of Lodi's homogeneous environment! That is one of the City's few redeeming features. If Lodi was more integrated, I'd certainly be looking for a place to live where I can be around my own culture and people. "

glenn wrote on Aug 1, 2007 9:44 AM:

" Lodihomwowner, I am curious about that too. How many Lodians said they were willing to pay for a greenbelt? That question was on my survey. "

Interesting wrote on Aug 1, 2007 9:25 AM:

" Do not believe everything you read. Questions can be confusing to participants and biased to the audience. "

G wrote on Aug 1, 2007 9:00 AM:

" Big shock. Racism has been Lodi's worst kept secret for decades. "

proud ethnic majority wrote on Aug 1, 2007 8:35 AM:

" I come from a diverse background and I have no experienced any problems in Lodi. In fact I have many friends that are not the same race as I. The lesson to learn from this survey is that you can't trust any survey. The problem is that most surveys are created with a specific outcome in mind. You can create the questions or only ask a certain type of person, with the goal of obtaining the result you want. Surveys like this foster hatred towards each other and do nothing to bring the community together. "

Griot wrote on Aug 1, 2007 8:22 AM:

" Hummmm. This isn't good... "

GovAgent wrote on Aug 1, 2007 8:20 AM:

" I bet every response came from the eastside of lodi. This city has more illegals than the whole state of Texas, and welcomes them with open arms. Renting to illegals, and THE BANKS ARE CASHING CHECKS FROM ILLEGALS USING THE SAME SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER. My friend worked at a lodi bank and went to the manager and said these three people are using the same SS number, the manager said cash the checks and dont ask questions, because this construction company is a big client! "

Seriously wrote on Aug 1, 2007 8:08 AM:

" Political correctness and "improving" neighborhoods are not going to solve problems if the baseline problems of crime and illegals are not stopped. Period. Wake up! We ALL know what the problems are. You think the west is so special? It's just a matter of time, before you see the same "blight." Wake up!!! "

Seriously cont. wrote on Aug 1, 2007 8:05 AM:

" Try talking to some north, south, and nice central parts of Lodi, and see how they feel. Your trouble spots are in between. And lumping those of us in the south east, some central, and north east with them is not going to get you votes! "

MO wrote on Aug 1, 2007 8:00 AM:

" Low acceptance of diversity or lowered standards? "

Seriously! wrote on Aug 1, 2007 7:59 AM:

" Joanne Mounce, maybe you and CC members need to stop saying such stupid things like "separation of east and west," keeping it foremost in the residents mind. Why is everyone afraid of the truth? It's crime rate over all of Lodi, and illegal entry here that are out prolems! "

No Surprise wrote on Aug 1, 2007 7:46 AM:

" This information can't surprise anyone. All you have to do is read the posts on these blogs and you know how prejudice Lodian's can be. "

Carnitas wrote on Aug 1, 2007 7:25 AM:

" Is this a suprise to anyone? "

ikl wrote on Aug 1, 2007 7:19 AM:

" Like many other surveys, this is meaningless. Simple questions that people answer with a yes or no do not transfer to the conclusions being drawn in the article. I would think that the article should have focused on the fact that less than half of the people surveyed though Lodi was a good place to work or that less than a third though there were job opportunities in lodi. Fix the economic and the rest takes care of itself. Someday the govt will figure that out.... "

Stephen P. wrote on Aug 1, 2007 7:19 AM:

" Why are people in the parks at night??? The parks are closed at dusk! You shouldn't be there. I feel safe I have been in parks with my kids and girl friend. We do make sure where gone by dark. "

LodiHomeOwner wrote on Aug 1, 2007 7:10 AM:

" If I remember correctly, in the survey after the question of "wanting a grrenbelt" there was another question asking if Lodians are willing to "pay for" a greenbelt. I am curious how many said that they were willing to pay for it. Sure, I want a jacquar, but is it just a Christmas fantasy or is it a want I am willing to pay for? "

lifetime resident wrote on Aug 1, 2007 7:00 AM:

" anyone that has lived in Lodi for a long time or all there life knows that Lodi has a problem with meshing the different races that live here. this will never change. having East and West Lodi plays a big part. The east has nothing to offer the west side, so people living in the west side dont even want to drive thru the east side because they feel unsafe. "

Dawes wrote on Aug 1, 2007 6:53 AM:

" Where is the survey link so we can see how the questions were worded. I sense a Cultural Marxist/Deconstructionist worded survey. Art Raab is closer to the answer, as it has more to do with "culture" than "race". Larry Hansen is using a PC answer, and shows he is out of touch. "

Max Stanfield wrote on Aug 1, 2007 6:51 AM:

" There is nothing especially meaningful about "diversity", "tolerance" or "multiculturalism" otherwise countries that have endured these changes would not be in such a mess. If "diversity" and "tolerance" mean accepting things that are inherently and permanently destructive, then I am against them. "

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