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A cross made of PVC pipe, along with flowers and these photographs, remain at the scene of a fatal collision that killed three people Wednesday on Atkins Road. (Brian Feulner/News-Sentinel)

Woman killed in accident was 25

Her name left on memorial at scene of Clements crash

By Layla Bohm
News-Sentinel Staff Writer
Monday, August 6, 2007 11:59 AM PDT

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Two-and-a-half years ago, Crystal Marie Scott cried as she spoke on behalf of her boyfriend, relating how sorry he was for drinking and then getting into a fatal accident.

She made no excuses for Charles Gillit when she contacted a newspaper reporter in October 2004, instead saying that he felt sorry for the elderly victim's family.

On Wednesday, Scott herself was killed in a collision that California Highway Patrol investigators say was triggered by alcohol and excessive speed.

The 25-year-old woman has not formally been identified by the San Joaquin County Coroner's Office, but Scott's name, date of birth and photos are featured on a memorial at the Clements crash scene.

"Sissy, mom loves you so very much," read a hand-written note that rested between photos and a cross Friday. A dozen large pink roses stood in a vase near a white cross, in stark contrast to the blackened grass field along Atkins Road.

Scott was driving north on Brandt Road at 6 p.m. Wednesday when, according to California Highway Patrol investigators, an oncoming Chevrolet El Camino swerved and then over-corrected, crashing into her Volvo.

The Volvo burst into flames, starting a large grass fire that kept firefighters at the scene for three hours.

All three people involved in the collision were pronounced dead at the scene. Scott, who appeared to be wearing her seat belt, died in her burning car, the CHP said.

The driver of the other car, Brandon Baker, 29, of Lodi, and his passenger, Jeremiah Davis, 22, of Lockeford, were thrown from the vehicle.

Alcohol, excessive speed and unsafe turning — when Baker apparently over-corrected — caused the crash, said CHP spokesman Officer Adrian Quintero. Baker's exact blood-alcohol content level is pending toxicology tests, though investigators have classified the crash as alcohol-related, Quintero said.

California's legal driving limit is 0.08 percent, below the 0.11 percent in Gillit's blood when he drove through a Lockeford alley Oct. 11, 2004, and crashed into a 73-year-old woman as she drove home from Bible study.

Gillit, then 25, had previous convictions for driving under the influence and reckless driving involving alcohol.



Charles Gillit




Prosecutors charged him with murder, and he ultimately pleaded guilty to vehicular manslaughter and drunken driving. Gillit is serving a 14-year sentence in state prison.

Baker had three driving-related San Joaquin County criminal convictions, including reckless driving, evading police and reckless driving involving alcohol, and was on probation in two of those cases.

No local driving, alcohol or drug convictions could be found for Scott.

Coroner's officials have not released her body to a funeral home until her identity is confirmed through dental records.

Services for Davis have not been announced publicly, but Baker's family plans to hold a service today, on what would have been his 30th birthday.

Sue McCracken, the mother of Baker's fiancee, said she and other family members have spent the last few days sharing stories about his sense of humor and commitment to his family.

"Brandon needs to be remembered as a person with a genuine heart," she said. "It was an accident. You can't blame anyone for this."

She said Baker treated her daughter like the center of his world.

"He was a loving person. He brought out the best in everyone," she said.

News-Sentinel City Editor Andrew Adams contributed to this report.

Contact reporter Layla Bohm at layla@lodinews.com.

<em>This story was updated at 12:05 p.m. Aug. 6, 2007, to delete a reference to Crystal Scott's past that was unrelated to her driving ability.</em>

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meme, Crystal,s grandmother wrote on Aug 13, 2007 11:48 PM:

" My dear baby girl Meme & PaPa love you so very much. Today the DNA came and you were formally identified. You Mom is having a hard time. Your brother, Cody is holding down the fort. He is such a wonderful brother to Dylan. Love you like crazy baby girl, Always in my heart MeMe "

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To Meme wrote on Aug 11, 2007 9:18 AM:

" Victim impact group is a wonderful organization. I hope they help you. "

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oh geez wrote on Aug 11, 2007 9:17 AM:

" Lodian is one of bakers x's? Get real you idiot. Do you really think it requires a scorned x girlfriend to take a strong position against drunken driving? what an immature and ridiculous thing to say. Comments like that from bakers friends and family make it painfully obvious you guys really don't understand the magnitude of bakers crime. You all sound like your brains stopped maturing when you started drinking your beer. That hta they say happens and it makes sense. "

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meme, Crystal,s grandmother wrote on Aug 9, 2007 11:47 PM:

" My dear Wee, Tonight I'm going through pictures to make some memorial boards for you. All your family try to keep busy and do things to honor your sweet life. God I still can't or don't want to belive what happened. Meme called a lady at Victim Impact Group an I am going to try and speak about you story. Wee, love you like crazy baby girl, Always in my heart Meme "

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Lodian wrote on Aug 8, 2007 1:07 PM:

" I agree with Brian. I think it is unacceptable to allow these imposter posts where the poster says inappropriate things as he/she is posing as another poster, using their handle. This is especially disrespectful on a board regarding an article and situation such as this. Any news on that log-in system you told us about last year? "

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Brian wrote on Aug 8, 2007 8:08 AM:

" What's with all the comments with no names. LNS, you're not doing your job. Let's show some respect for the family of the deceased and require names on this blogg and all the rest of the bloggs as well. "

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Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2007 6:36 PM:

" Totally: Honey I was in college when Baker was born and married when he was a toddler. Stop being disrespectful. Are you a friend of the family? Is this how you respect your friend, by saying he'd like that kind of talk? Did he have ex-girlfriends that opposed his drinking or something? Seems like a really weird post to me. Grow up and see the horror in all of this. You're acting like an immature child. "

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Totally wrote on Aug 7, 2007 4:38 PM:

" Totally makes sense now. Lodian IS one of Baker's ex's. He's gotta love this. "

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Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2007 11:51 AM:

" Annoyed: You have every right NOT to read my posts or these boards. Feel free to go elsewhere. "

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Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2007 11:49 AM:

" To Lodian....cont: You think about me waaaay too much. "

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Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2007 11:23 AM:

" Annoyed: I stand squarely behind ever single word I say, so stop posting your garbage. "

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Annoyed wrote on Aug 6, 2007 8:28 PM:

" To "Lodian:" Stop blaming others for your ignorant posting. People are sick of hearing from you. "

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Lodian wrote on Aug 6, 2007 2:29 PM:

" to "tolodian: Did you enjoy posting those five comments to a post that was created by YOU? Stop this crap. YOU are the one disrespecting the families. "

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Lodian wrote on Aug 6, 2007 2:28 PM:

" to "tolodian": Stop posting comments as if they were coming from me just so you can bash me on these boards. Have some integrity for God sake. I did not post the 6:44pm post. "

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Lodian wrote on Aug 6, 2007 2:25 PM:

" Lodian (Aug 4, 2007 6:44 PM): Why are you using my handle to post here? Geez, here we go again. "

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To Lodian wrote on Aug 6, 2007 9:20 AM:

" I like your idea but it would kill the bar industry. Our CC in Lodi would have a fit. I personally think people shouldnt be allowed to drink outside of their homes. I cant believe we still serve alcohol in public knowing there are so many people that abuse it and innocents end up being killed. Its crazy! "

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To Lodian....cont wrote on Aug 5, 2007 10:01 PM:

" It just seems like you go to bed everynight and think of something else to say to put down all those associated with Brandon, I just noticed your daily blogs and constant arguments. There are alot of other problems going on in this world too, maybe you should be checking after your family and friends to make sure they aren't doing anything that you can be prosecuted for, and stop blasting and judging, you are no one to judge. "

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To Lodian...cont wrote on Aug 5, 2007 10:00 PM:

" Obviously, you know this because you have a need to get the last word in on every story on this website and dont care what people say. I feel that these people were expressing their concern for all involved and even Brandon's family. You took it above and beyond to chasitize a dead man and his family. Its ridiculous. Your words on blaming his family and friends is outrageous! We know your viewpoint now leave it alone. "

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To Lodian wrote on Aug 5, 2007 9:57 PM:

" I feel you are completely out of line blasting Brandon's family and friends and stating that "they should be prosecuted." First, Brandon was not an alcoholic, secondly, no one has control over anyones actions once they are behind the wheel or are an adult. They can express their concern but a person is going to do what they want to do and no one will tell them otherwise. I feel you need to get that through your head. "

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Lodian wrote on Aug 5, 2007 4:09 PM:

" T & C: I know that bars are not the only place people get drunk, but maybe the bars could have some sort of breathalyzer at the exit door. If the person doesn't pass the test, they don't leave with their keys. We've got to do something. Drunks still drive and nothing is changing. People are still being killed by these idiots. "

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Meme, Christal's Grandmother wrote on Aug 5, 2007 1:55 PM:

" To T&C posting Aug. 5 *:06 am What you said is so very true about bars and wanting a bigger profit margin. If I lived there I would be picketing the front of the establishment. To let someone get boozed up and walk out the door and get in their car is so wrong. Thank you for family support. Crystal, Love you like crazy baby girl, Always in my heart Meme "

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T & C wrote on Aug 5, 2007 8:06 AM:

" One very important being missed over and over again is the person or persons serving that drunk driver drink after drink, always more than they can handle, and allowing them to leave that premises in an inebriated condition too drunk to drive. Just to get that extra buck for a tip and to add a little more to the bottom line profit. It's time these people behind the bars are REALLY held responsible for serving someone who's already had too much. Many bars would be shuttered, if that were the case. "

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T & C wrote on Aug 5, 2007 8:00 AM:

" Tammy L., you said it better than all the rest, you are so right on. No one deserves to die at such a young and energetic time in their life, and by a drunk and irresponsible driver. Bless you, and my best wishes and condolences to her family, friends and loved ones. May she Rest In Peace! "

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Meme, Christal's Grandmother wrote on Aug 4, 2007 7:00 PM:

" Ask the Scott/Carson to understand alcoholism. We still keep waiting for our beautiful daughter, granddaughter, sister & friend to come through the door. Brandon not only killed Crystal, JD, but also a part of each member of her family. Crystal is STILL in cornor's office awaiting DNA testing for the could not do it through dental records. Yes ask our daughter Tammy to understand alcoholism and give him a break, Our baby is gone. Love you like crazy baby girl, Meme "

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Lodian wrote on Aug 4, 2007 6:44 PM:

" to" Hey Pete": I would love to see Baker's family and friends make a public apology for Brandon killing Crystal. They could have stopped him. It was their laziness, enabling, and ignorance that allowed him to kill Crystal. They are as guilty as he was. They should be prosecuted. "

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Lodian wrote on Aug 4, 2007 12:54 PM:

" To "Hey Pete": Very well said. I agree 100%! "

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Hey Pete continued wrote on Aug 4, 2007 8:53 AM:

" Go to an alonon meeting if you want to "be understanding" don't sit back and wait until another person is killed and then start posting to the surviving family members of the victim in hopes that your going to make someone understand the plight of the alcoholic. Nobody gives a rats ass about alcoholics and its tasteless to talk about it here. Brandon killed crystal. end of story. "

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Hey Pete continued wrote on Aug 4, 2007 8:50 AM:

" I'm sick and tired of our society excusing the actions or end results of these peoples behavior because they have labled them an "alcoholic." Do you think it makes one bit of difference to the deceased here that the person who hit and killed her was an alcohlic? Who cares? Do you think her family feels betetr knowing Brandon was an alcoholic? No, they don't. So Save it! "

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Hey Pete continued wrote on Aug 4, 2007 8:48 AM:

" I'm sick and tired of our society excusing the actions or end results of these peoples behavior because they have labled them an "alcoholic." "

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Hey Pete wrote on Aug 4, 2007 8:46 AM:

" This isn't about alcoholism anyway, its about when drunk driving results in murder. Just because soemone is an alcoholic doesnt mean its acceptable for them to drink and drive and kill. I dont give a rats ass about your brother or brandon baker. I have never met a friend or family member of an alcoholic who wasn't an enabler. They bail these drunks out, buy them cars, pay for defense attornies, give them a couch to crash on and then stand back and act amazed they still drink and carry on the way they do. "

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Tammy L. wrote on Aug 4, 2007 1:59 AM:

" Don't let your alligator mouth over run your tadpole ass! For those of you that are talking smack on Crystal, keep to yourself, and this talk about karma killing her, you should be ashamed of yourself! Quit talking out your neck or maybe karma will get you. "

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Pete wrote on Aug 3, 2007 12:19 PM:

" To to Pete, alcoholism is rough, but I am an innocent driver also. So are my family members. I personally hate drunk drivers. I have lost too many friends to them. "

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To Pete wrote on Aug 3, 2007 7:12 AM:

" Alcoholism is rough.Innocent drivers are helpless, yet we still have to drive to work. "

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Lodian wrote on Aug 2, 2007 11:36 PM:

" Pete: You obviously have a healthy grasp on the situation with your brother. I don't think anyone here is telling Baker's family not to mourn and remember the man they loved. What I can't stand is the blind dismissal that this was an innocent accident. Brandon's driving history is clear, speed and drinking was something he enjoyed. He ended innocent lives this time around. Yes, this family should mourn, not be on a message-board defending reckless behavior. The good in Baker doesn't dismiss what he has done. Minimizing the slaughter of innocent lives shouldn't be tolerated. "

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to Pete wrote on Aug 2, 2007 9:42 PM:

" It sounds like we live in similar worlds. I, too, have a brother who is an alcoholic and has been for years. Our family has also lived through crashes, dui's, etc. However, many people on this blog are comparing apples to oranges. Alcoholism is not the issue in this case. Drunk driving is. I am not convinced that there is a cure for alcoholism. But, deaths resulting from drinking and driving are preventable. "

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Baker a good driver? wrote on Aug 2, 2007 9:13 PM:

" Baker was a good driver? Yeah right. How many times did he get in accidents? How many lives did he take, being such a good driver? Sounds like an A+ driver........yeah right "

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Pam T. wrote on Aug 2, 2007 7:12 PM:

" To Pete: I understand your frustration. I, too, live with alcoholism in my family. My point was that unless you have made an attempt, whether successful or not, you are as much a party to the problem as the problem itself. Also, I had to question whether Mr. Abbas was weighing in on a subject that he himself is guilty of. I did not take your words personally. "

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Pete wrote on Aug 2, 2007 7:05 PM:

" Pam, please do NOT think i was attacking you personally. Definitely the NOT was the wrong word to omit. Sorry. "

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Pete wrote on Aug 2, 2007 5:46 PM:

" and Pam, I think my frustration should be directed more to Lodian. I apologize if I sound angry. Please do think I was attacking you personally. Alcoholism is rough. Family members are helpless, yet we still love our sick brother. "

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Pete wrote on Aug 2, 2007 5:43 PM:

" May God Bless Crystal. Meme, know that she is "sky diving and flying" in heaven. May she rest in peace and soar with the angels. "

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Pete wrote on Aug 2, 2007 5:42 PM:

" Give the family and friends of Baker a break and let them mourn his death. Do they know him? Yes. Do they need your finger in their face at this time. No They know he killed 2 innocent people. Give it a rest. They were powerless over his actions. "

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Pete wrote on Aug 2, 2007 5:41 PM:

" How dare to judge the family members. Family members of drunks live with the guilt that they are powerless when they attempt to help. Is my brother a good guy? He is amazing. When he is sober he gives of himself to friends, family, and strangers. He is loving, generous, full of fun, and very caring. He is an awesome guy. When he drinks, he is not himself. "

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Pete wrote on Aug 2, 2007 5:41 PM:

" He is 55. We , as a family, have tried to help him. He is "above help" so he says. What do expect me to do? He lives a few states away. I pray he never kills any one, but he will, hopefully it is just himself. You may be shocked to know that you have little control over some elses addiction. "

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Pete wrote on Aug 2, 2007 5:40 PM:

" Pam, I have a brother who is an alcoholic. He has had 4 DUI's, done 6 plus years of prison, he has been an AA leader and counselor for 15 years, and swears he will never drink again. But he will, he always does. His last DUI was 3 years ago and he just got out of prison. "

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The Truth cont. wrote on Aug 2, 2007 5:30 PM:

" Ask yourself some hard facts: why are you demonizing this young man who is dead? Why are you believing everything you read in the paper? Mr. Baker did like to drive fast but was an excellent driver. He often drove at Kingdon Drag and was well-known to be a very capable driver. Also know that these young people were all good friends and would be sad to know that any of them are being so villified. "

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The Truth wrote on Aug 2, 2007 5:24 PM:

" To "Be Careful" and all the "Rush to Judgements:" You are right! Mr. Baker, for the record, was never convicted of a DUI, in fact it was a wet and reckless and only because it resulted in an accident. What caused the accident? A distraction alongside the road. It is not against the law to drink and drive--only to be above the legal limit. Mr. Baker was not even close to the limit at that time. I would certainly hate for these people to be on my jury if something happened! "

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Pam T. wrote on Aug 2, 2007 4:09 PM:

" Mr. Abbas: A large part of the problem is the people who stand back watching the drunk drivers drive away without doing anything to stop them. So, you have been at the bar and seen people drinking...have you ever suggested to them it's not be a good idea to get behind a wheel? And how many times have you had a few at the OC and then driven home? Anyone who thinks Crystal "deserved" what happened to her is wrong. What goes around comes around, Mr. Abbas. Are you ready for the karma coming your way??? "

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Be Careful... wrote on Aug 2, 2007 3:49 PM:

" I have been reading these comments for days and just cannot believe how gullible people really are. Very scary that these same people might serve on a jury someday and could hold someone's fate in their hands. How quick we are to judge before we even have any facts or even correct ones. "

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everyone please listen wrote on Aug 2, 2007 2:44 PM:

" in your association with others, put yourself in their place. enter into their feelings, their difficulties, their dissapointments,their joys, and their sorrows.identify yourself with them, and then do to themas, were you to exchange places with them, you would wish them to deal with you. "

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Lodian wrote on Aug 2, 2007 1:05 PM:

" Mr Abbas: How do you know about Crystal's comings and goings at this bar? Are you a frequent patron? And if what you say is true, what did you do about it? You sound like a loser trying to discredit the innocent victim. Are you a family member of Baker perhaps? How twisted are you people? "

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Meme, Christal's Grandmother wrote on Aug 2, 2007 12:07 PM:

" Your coment Mr Abbas was stupid. Crystal wasn't much of a drinker, in fact I never seen her drink. I am sure she had went to the Old Corner, but frequently, I doubt it. The only reason i am on this discussion site is to defend my granddaughter and answer stupid and uninformed folks like you. God forbid this never happens to a loveone of yours. Thanks to those who see the clear pic. and respond to these idiots. Wee Meme loves you like crazy always in my heart meme "

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To: Mr. Abass wrote on Aug 2, 2007 12:00 PM:

" You can't even spell "karma" correctly so maybe you need to stop talking trash and take a basic English course. "

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OMG People... Learn to spell... wrote on Aug 2, 2007 11:21 AM:

" It's Karma... And Karma had nothing to do with this poor INNOCENT girl's death. It was the carelessness of a repeated drunk & wild driver. "

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to mr. abba wrote on Aug 2, 2007 9:35 AM:

" shame on you. she wasnt the one drunk and driving who killed two people. carma carma carma is right. remember that when it is you since you seem to frequent bars and drive also. "

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fact is wrote on Aug 2, 2007 9:26 AM:

" Crystal was not the one drinking. She is not here to defend herself so why bash her now. Carma is a horrible thing but this she did not deserve NO ONE does. Fact is a young lady was killed and two others died "

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Mr Abbas... wrote on Aug 2, 2007 8:51 AM:

" Too bad YOU weren't in the area that day instead of Chrystal. "

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er nurse wrote on Aug 2, 2007 12:04 AM:

" mr abbas i think your a real a** **** who cares about her past she is gone and was struck by a drunk driver. that dosent change anything when you have children they all falt at times im sure your not perfect but i hope you never have to feel the way crystals family is feeling because no matter how rotten your past is you can change. and you should never have to bury you child first. carma will get you for your comments grow up..... "

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To Mr. Abbas wrote on Aug 1, 2007 11:05 PM:

" Okay, so the moral of the story is don't minimize drunk driving. I agree with that. It would be nearly impossible to prove Crystal was driving drunk, though, unless the CHP interviewed people to determine what she had done in her last hours. They will do this with Brandon. It's pretty standard in accident reconstruction. If it turns out Brandon was drunk, I hope the excuses stop. "

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meme, Crystal's Grandma wrote on Aug 1, 2007 10:17 PM:

" My granddaughter lived with us for many years. She had a winning smile and big blue eyes and med. blond hair. She was about 5ft. 3". Her new passion was sky diving and I held my breath when she went, I never watched, but now I wished I had. The pic. she sent PaPa & I showed how happy, excited and the biggest smile was on her face. Love you like crazy Baby Girl. Always in my heart, MeMe "

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Lodi Mom wrote on Aug 1, 2007 7:56 PM:

" Mr. Abbas - So because you say you saw Crystal get behind the wheel after being at the bar (of course you can't say if she was drunk or not) it was carma that caused her to then be murdered by a convicted drunk driver. So in your mind, everyone who has gotten behind the wheel after drinking deserves to then be killed? I am thinking that because you saw her at the bar you have never gotten behind the wheel after drinking? Be careful - Carma, carma, carma "

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Sad Commentary wrote on Aug 1, 2007 7:25 PM:

" It seems that bad things keep happening to those who hang out in the Old Corner Saloon. Cindy Vanderheiden, and now these folks. None of these people deserved to die. But hanging around with crappy people, doing crappy things invites tragedy. "

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Poor Crystal!! wrote on Aug 1, 2007 7:06 PM:

" There is no body, this poor innocent girl burned to death! All her family has left is teeth! "

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Mr. Abbas wrote on Aug 1, 2007 2:34 PM:

" It is a well known fact that Crystal could often times be found at the same bar that Brandon Baker would visit. And I myself have witnessed her get behind the wheel of her car and drive after drinking. Does this matter? I am sure her family will say it does not matter. Carma, carma, carma, carma. "

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Is there going to be an actual funeral.. wrote on Aug 1, 2007 2:09 PM:

" when the body is released? Please let us know. God Bless Chrystal's family & friends. "

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meme, Crystal,s grandmother wrote on Jul 31, 2007 6:13 PM:

" to OK LNS STOP THE CENSORSHIP:Her legal name is Chrystal Marie Carson-Scott. She took her mom's maiden name & her fathers. We had a memorial service that her boyfriend, Aaron put together. word of mouth over 150 people came. Crystal, Love you like crazy & Always in my heart Love Meme "

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meme, Crystal,s grandmother wrote on Jul 31, 2007 6:05 PM:

" I wish to say how grateful the family of crystal is for 98% of you made positive coments. Thank you for the support and to Damm, the booze sounds like it has pickled your brain at the Old Corner! "

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meme, Crystal's grandmother wrote on Jul 31, 2007 5:51 PM:

" Chrystal had no children and don't think she could have them. That is why baby brother, Dylan was so important to her. Please pray for my daughter, Tamra Scott and Cody & Dylan. Hope today later on her body will be identified. The family needs her ashes home. I never much called her Crystal. It was Wee, Weezer or Weezer Beezer. MeMe loves you like crazy baby girl, Always in my heart Meme "

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DAMM wrote on Jul 31, 2007 5:41 PM:

" Get a life people! It is a sad set of circumstances for both families.Just because he was a drunk doesn't mean his family should grieve less. He was important to someone. Too bad he did not think about that SOMEONE before he carelessly drove while intoxicated. I feel for the innocent victims and families on both sides. As for him, he had it coming when he drove intoxicated. It really is too bad people don't learn from others' mistakes. "

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mistake? wrote on Jul 31, 2007 4:52 PM:

" For those of you saying Baker made a mistake...I beg to differ. His first alcohol offense was maybe a mistake. But, to not learn from that is now negligent. It is no mistake to drink and drive. It is an INTENTIONAL act. Nothing can now bring the victims back and for that Baker's families and friends should be taking a hard look at themselves and asking what they could have done? "

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What child? wrote on Jul 31, 2007 4:25 PM:

" From what I understand that picture is of her brother not her child. "

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Lodian wrote on Jul 31, 2007 2:59 PM:

" Kathy Carson: Please share more about your granddaughter and what a good person she was. Personally, I would much rather be hearing about her than her murderer. Do you think there will be a fund set up for her child? If so, please let us know. So sorry for your loss. It's horrific for a parent to lose her child this way (in any way), but it is excruciating for a grandparent to bury a grandchild. My prayers are with you and your family at this unbelievably heartbreaking time. "

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Everyone...cont wrote on Jul 31, 2007 2:58 PM:

" Everyone wants to know why they are not focused on, well it begins here!! I want to see positive things on their lives! This is why our world is so negative, we bring it on ourselves. All we can do is learn from others mistakes and not repeat them or trash others for grieving a lost one too. May God be will ALL families during this terrible time. "

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Everyone...cont wrote on Jul 31, 2007 2:58 PM:

" We have learned from this tragic accident. I personally attended Brandons funeral and it wasn't a bunch of drunk hillbillies, I dont consider myself that. I did not drink, but I did drive many people home that night, and so did alot of other people. There was mourning going on, people all mourn differently. We all get your point on Brandon, but lets move on and mourn Crystal and JD too. "

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Everyone wrote on Jul 31, 2007 2:57 PM:

" Seeing this has only dissappointed me more. It is sad what has happened and that all this arguing/fingerpointing and assumptions are taking place. However, there are one or two people on here that are making ignorant comments that are justifying the comments on Brandon Baker, you people doing this were not his real friends. However, not all Brandon's friend, especially his close ones, would want to be bragging or even drinking and driving. "

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OK LNS STOP THE CENCORSHIP... wrote on Jul 31, 2007 2:37 PM:

" This is in no way disrespectful. How do you have a funeral for a person when they have yet to be id'd and the body is not released yet? "

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mary wrote on Jul 31, 2007 2:09 PM:

" does crystal have a sister named amber "

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Would like to help..... wrote on Jul 31, 2007 12:58 PM:

" For Kathy Carson: How many kids? Male or female? Who will be caring for child/ren? "

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To: Kathy Carson wrote on Jul 31, 2007 12:27 PM:

" I wish that someone who knew crystal would write up an article about her and the wonderful person she was. It seems so sad to hear all the negativity, and argueing back and forth, and still not know anything about this young woman! May crystal rest in peace, and her family and friends remember her as an angel. "

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To "Bunch of Hillbillies" wrote on Jul 31, 2007 12:04 PM:

" Where do you get off? You know nothing about the people that knew Brandon or the people he hung out with. Everyone did not do donuts or drink, so get your stories straight! I am so sick of hearing about how everyone associated with Brandon is a drunk. I live a good life, free of drinking and driving and Brandon was still my friend. You people need to move on and stop this nonsense. I hope no one you know makes a mistake, because you then open yourself up to a bunch of bored vultures on lodinews.com "

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Deb wrote on Jul 31, 2007 11:30 AM:

" The ones that knew Crystal and Brandon and Charlie also know that they also shared the same life style. This is just a sad and tragic accident. I don't think Crystal or Brandon would want to know that you all are bashing each other over bad choices. God bless both the families. "

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Happy Days wrote on Jul 31, 2007 11:10 AM:

" I won't often say I'm disgusted by this paper, but the LNS is WAY out of line in this article. The drunken idiot caused her to die far too young. Her past is irrelevent to this incident. She had every right to live and this punk, through his own selfishness, cut that life short. Too bad he didn't live for prison & guilt. "

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TO DAMM wrote on Jul 31, 2007 9:39 AM:

" MAYBE SOMETHING A DRUNK DRIVER WILL CAUSE SOMETHING WITH A LOVED ONE OF YOURS. WILL YOU FEEL DIFFERENT THEN? JUST WHAT I THOUGHT. CARMEN MISTER, CARMA "

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to damm wrote on Jul 31, 2007 9:18 AM:

" you and your buddies keep proving our point,,,,there are a lot of clueless people out there,,,,,Please everyone else,,be careful,,, "

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Lodian wrote on Jul 31, 2007 8:41 AM:

" DAMM: Talk about disrespectful comments... that had to be the worst! "

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BUNCH OF HILLBILLIES wrote on Jul 31, 2007 8:16 AM:

" What a bunch of hillbillies to drink, drive and do donuts at the funeral of this fool who took the life of an innocent woman. What a strange way and a clear indicator what type of people Brandon Baker spent his time around and was influenced by. Maybe all of you should have your licenses yanked and be forced to wear alcohol monitoring braclets. How do you explain the fact that even after the death of an innocent woman you people are still carrying on like laws and rules and common sense dont matter????????????? "

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To in clements wrote on Jul 31, 2007 8:04 AM:

" Yes you are right he does deserve a right up, a decent one. Not the vicious job done on the others. I don't know any of the parties involved but no one at a time when the families are grieving deserves to have their life layed open to the public. It serves no purpose other the reporter writing "the news" does not have sufficient skills as a reporter and must rely on trash as a filler. "

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Kathy Carson-Crystal Marie Carson's Grandmother wrote on Jul 30, 2007 11:26 PM:

" Crystal was a loving giving person She did have a few charges, but numerous NO! as Ummm wrote on Jul 29 that "we lost a drunk and a low-rent con artist. You are SICK! You did not know my granddaughter. She would have given any thing she had to anyone in need. She was heading on the right path and doing wonderfully. Why didn't Brandon's family intervene when they knew he still drank. Maybe my baby still wouldn't be laying in the cornor's office in a black bag waiting for dental records to confirm her identity. "

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to ms. bohm wrote on Jul 30, 2007 8:49 PM:

" why post an article and show a picture of crystals x? this is weird all the way around. what are you getting at? did you ever think how this garbage might affect crystals family and friends? does blood run through your veins? you owe crystal and her family an apology. just because you are a member of a media outlet it doesnt mean you are exempt from decency, does it? This is Lodi. Too small of a town for you to carry on the way you did in this garbage story. "

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DAMM wrote on Jul 30, 2007 8:06 PM:

" I belong to a group named Drunks.Against.Mad.Mothers and I cant figure out what all the fuss is about.He made a mistake. Not one of us is perfect. The OC will miss you bro! "

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Lodi Mom wrote on Jul 30, 2007 7:40 PM:

" Even if the volvo would have not burst into flames, it would have not made any difference due to the fact that Crystal died on impact. An impact that was a result of a repeat drunk driver. Families of all three that died are grieving, but Brandon's family needs to acknowledge the horrible choice that resulted in the murder of two innocent people and hopefully everyone's family and friends will learn from this and not let it happen again. "

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Still Waiting? wrote on Jul 30, 2007 7:30 PM:

" Why did the LNS NOT print an apology in this mornings paper about this cruel article? I am sure that the LNS has read these posts and had plenty of time to do a nice write up on this poor VICTIM. This is just appalling! There was all kinds of positive press coverage about the drunk driver that killed this girl, why isn't there a POSITIVE article on her? What is the matter with you people at the LNS? "

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Shameful wrote on Jul 30, 2007 5:17 PM:

" That these three people lost their lives because one individual that obviously had a problem got behind the wheel under the influence. "

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onlooker wrote on Jul 30, 2007 4:58 PM:

" Nice, I see that my opnion is not considered acceptable. What I said is true and will come out soon enough, to bad you will only allow lies and hear say to surface on this feedback area. Thank you LNS "

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To To WWJD wrote on Jul 30, 2007 3:26 PM:

" Yes, they have a right to mourn, but does mourning mean drinking, speeding and doing donuts? "

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disapponted wrote on Jul 30, 2007 1:04 PM:

" It is hard to believe that people are saying it may be the Volvo car that was the problem, give me a break. If any car were hit head on at a high rate of speed it may explode. You must also be the same people that drink and drive. "

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in clements wrote on Jul 30, 2007 12:54 PM:

" I think we need to remember that there is also the life of a very nice young man, JD that was taken from his family. He certainly didn't ask to have his life ended either. I didn't see any write-up on him...isn't he important? My heart-felt sadness goes out to all of the families...a person acted with no reguard to others and took two people with him. It is a loss that I pray I will never have to go through, to live longer than your children is more than a parent should have to endure. "

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To "to wwjd" wrote on Jul 30, 2007 12:14 PM:

" You said there was a "caterer" at the celebration. Obviosuly you were there to nit pick and again be a hyprocrite. What were you doing there? Obiviously you know nothing about the family or their friends, and would know that the caterer is actually the Baker Familys long time friend for over 30 years, they do have a catering business, but needed all their supplies to cook for everyone their that lost someone. The accident was horrible but we have every right to mourn too! "

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why? wrote on Jul 30, 2007 11:38 AM:

" I grew up near the Bakers, and let me tell you they all had a "need for speed." It is unfortunate that they still have not learned their lesson in this tragedy, on the night of the memorial service/celebration attendees went out sppeding down the road, doing spinouts and donuts, please wake up. "

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Resident wrote on Jul 30, 2007 11:27 AM:

" Why is the ex's picture posted? That should be her picture! I agree, her background should not have been posted. But I think LNS was just comparing the 2..I think a simple "there were no driving records" would have worked better. I feel sorry for all 3 families. A death is a death. Yes, Brandon is at fault, but that doesnt mean his family is hurting any less then Crystal's, or JD's. "

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Apology is needed wrote on Jul 30, 2007 10:15 AM:

" What were you thinking Ms. Bohm?! An innocent young woman was killed by a drunk driver and you try to tarnish her reputation and create a negative memory of her. People should remember her as THE victim, but instead you refocus the article on the warm memories of the drunk driver and try to diminish his little "accident." I think this article is disrespectful to the deceased (Ms. Scott) and her family and friends, and you and the News Sentinel owe them an apology. "

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amazed! wrote on Jul 30, 2007 10:09 AM:

" the county needs to investigate where he drank and whom served him after it was apparent he was intoxicated. both owner and bartender liable seperately and severally, look out "the OC". Families get attorneys now! asking for food for this persons memorial! dispicable! that family ought to look in mirror! THERE IS NO REASON TO CELLABRATE ANYTHING! "

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Praying for crystals family wrote on Jul 30, 2007 9:46 AM:

" I just want crystals family to know that we are praying for you!! May god bless your family, and just know that she is watching over you! "

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Family wrote on Jul 30, 2007 9:29 AM:

" Why do you refuse to print anything from Crystals family? A service is being held this morning for her though she has not been officially identifed.And why has no one mentioned the other innocent victim of Bakers so called 'accident?' "

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ArleneTurner wrote on Jul 30, 2007 9:20 AM:

" I was a friend of Bakers and people in my Family knew Crystal. They were both good people. Im truely sorry for Crystals family and her little brother. i Have a little brother and he would be hurt if anything happen to me. Iam truely sorry. I just cant find the words, nothing will ever make it better !!!! "

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To Just Wondering... wrote on Jul 30, 2007 9:07 AM:

" It will be in there as long as his family paid for it. Look at the bottom and there will be the dates it will appear. "

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To all you Baker fans.... wrote on Jul 30, 2007 8:57 AM:

" I agree that he was a selfish, drunken, idiotic ass... he never learned from his mistakes, and now look where it got him? I agree, he never grew up. I wonder why everyone was always "talking crap on him"? because he deserved it. So, stick up for him all you want if it helps you sleep at night, but the truth is, this was all his fault... a lot of us saw it coming, why didn't YOU? If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the PROBLEM. "

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Just wondering wrote on Jul 30, 2007 7:16 AM:

" If Bakers funeral was 2 days ago, why is he still in the obituaries? "

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And I concur with all of the bloggers wrote on Jul 30, 2007 12:35 AM:

" re: the salacious gossip re: Crystal's past. It's so unbelievable to me that this reporter would jump around the "facts" of the story and leave out the most important fact to this reader anyway, and that is how old the beautiful little girl that is left behind without a mother is. No mention of that. Just dirt and gossip. The most important and very sad part of this story is the fact that a little girl will never get to see her mommy again. That's a tragedy and it breaks my heart. "

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Please hear me loss of respect wrote on Jul 30, 2007 12:26 AM:

" The greatest thing you could do for Brandon's memory is to plead with those you know, "DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE!" Period! End of discussion. Don't put another family through this kind of hellish pain. Don't let another little girl grow up without her mommy. Don't let another mother, father, loved one bury their precious daughter or son due to drinking and driving. Think before getting into the car. USE the wisdom that God says to get and just don't do it. "

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final thought to "loss of respect: wrote on Jul 30, 2007 12:24 AM:

" It's so hard to see the real picture when engulfed with grief. Yes, you lost a friend, a loved one in the most horrific of ways. But the thing is, Brandon's unwise choices caused the carnage. Think about it. An innocent mother of a beautiful little girl was horrifically burned to death! A little girl is without her mother. That's the real tragedy here. A little girl will never feel her mother's arms around her or feel her tender kisses. "

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again to Loss of Respect wrote on Jul 30, 2007 12:22 AM:

" It was never God's plan for Brandon to kill two people and himself. When we make unwise choices, God ceases to be a part of the equation. God says to "seek wisdom". Where was the wisdom in driving drunk? Wisdom flew out the window and poor judgement sat in its place. Perfect and mistakes have nothing whatsoever to do with what Brandon did. Lack of wisdom and lack of respect for life is what characterizes what Brandon did. "

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To Loss of Respect wrote on Jul 30, 2007 12:19 AM:

" You wrote: "God has a plan for us all, and not one of us is PERFECT and we ALL make MISTAKES... " I would like to say, yes, God does have a plan for us all. However, we can circumvent his plans for us by making very unwise choices. It was never, and I repeat, never God's plan for Brandon to get drunk and get behind the wheel of his car and drive with reckless abandon resulting in the death of an innocent woman, his friend, and himself. "

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what f'ing car wrote on Jul 29, 2007 10:00 PM:

" wouldnt have problems when smashed into by a drunk??????? Now you're trying to blame it on the victims car? "

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To Bakers Family & Friends wrote on Jul 29, 2007 9:20 PM:

" How dare you place a cross for Baker next to Crystals! She was innocent in this murder! He was selfish killed a innocent girl, and caused all this pain not only to Crystals family and friends but to yourselves also! Crystals cross is there to remember a victim! I dont blame her family and friends for moving it down the road, they should have taken it down completely! Baker didnt respect the safety of others! I wont show respect to that cross, I will just be remembered everytime I see it how he killed a great girl! "

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Let this be about Crystal wrote on Jul 29, 2007 8:43 PM:

" Crystals funeral is Monday July 30, 2007 at the new church on Turner and 99 in lodi. It starts at Noon! I hope everyone can make it because her family needs all the support they can get right now! They dont want to hear anyone standing up for Baker and they just want this funeral to be 100% about Crystal like it should be! She was a great girl and will be missed by many! She was killed and deserves the respect of us all! "

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Why arent more people there for Crystals family! wrote on Jul 29, 2007 8:38 PM:

" Crystals family is in hell right now! Everyone is too busy standing up for Brandon to see how bad her little brother is taking this. He was friends with Baker but dont you think he is tired of hearing about what a wonderful person the guy that killed his sister was! In case you all have not figured it out she was 100% innocent! The only part of her body that her family has is her teeth! Stop standing up for Baker, it is not going to change what he did or bring him back! "

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to wwjd wrote on Jul 29, 2007 8:35 PM:

" yep you should have seen everyone drinking and having fun not one person had a tear there was even a cater to the party..yes people young and old drinking and driving where was the chp then? i don't think they learned anything "

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Ummm wrote on Jul 29, 2007 8:07 PM:

" What kind of "beautiful," "sweet," young woman has numerous fraud and theft convictions? I mean....it's stupid article...but please. We lost a drunk speedster and a low-rent con artist. Cry more. "

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Grandma & Grandpa wrote on Jul 29, 2007 7:48 PM:

" J.D. was the apple of his family's eye, as all the 3 victims were to their family's. At this time the bad remarks made against the driver is not hurting him, it is hurting the ones that are left. Now it is time for mourning your loved one. They are in God's hands now. Let us get through this time, so we can begin to heal. now it is time for mourning "

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Heartless wrote on Jul 29, 2007 7:02 PM:

" Regardless of this woman's life or past, she was the victim & died a horrible death. Her child is left motherless & all the writer can focus on is pulling out her dirty laundry! Unbelievable! Lodi prides itself on having a top notch and proper community - they should take a careful look at those representing our community. How about a little compassion & focusing energy on making sure her child is OK? Can we say fundraiser? Save the character defamation for those who truly deserve it. Can we produce an article that does her a little justice? "

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Have you no shame? wrote on Jul 29, 2007 6:55 PM:

" LNS, how could you do such a terrible thing as to pick apart a woman who burned to death in a car wreck, that wasn't her fault? Pretty low blow - seriously. How could you deny the victim, as well as her family, the decency of a well written article that maybe picked out a couple of nice things about her life? Do you even have a soul? "

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DMF wrote on Jul 29, 2007 6:36 PM:

" The family of Baker says "You can't blame anyone for this"? OMG!!! He was drinking AND speeding! Talk about denial! "

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Irrate wrote on Jul 29, 2007 6:10 PM:

" The fact that "...no local driving, alcohol or drug convictions could be found for Scott, though she was on probation for a number of theft and forgery cases" has nothing to do with this story. I'm not sure it is even sensationalism based. Was the reporter fishing forfacts to make the story longer? "

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Volvo fires wrote on Jul 29, 2007 5:48 PM:

" Google "volvo fires" and you'll be surprised at what comes up. Lots of personal stories. Seems this particular car has some problems! "

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Sue Harris wrote on Jul 29, 2007 4:40 PM:

" JUST PLAIN WRONG! Layla Bohm how dare you bring Crystal's past into a situation that she was an innocent party to. Who cares about her ex-boyfriend, she got over him why can't you? You just flat crossed the line! You should be forced to write a bio on your past, have it checked for truth and bring in all old relationships too, slam in on the front page and then be fired. Crystal cannot even defend herself. Now you have to live with it. Enjoy! "

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Pam T. wrote on Jul 29, 2007 3:31 PM:

" To LNS: Reporting the criminal background of a VICTIM is as absurd as reporting that someone died wearing pink socks! If you couldn't have found more appropriate info on Crystal, perhaps sticking to her name only would have been prudent and certainly more respectful to her family. Sometimes, LESS IS MORE !!! Shame on you LNS!!! "

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Another Lodi Mom wrote on Jul 29, 2007 3:21 PM:

" I hope the LNS follows up on this story when tox results are in. The media dropped the story of the accident I was in and I had to get the reports myself. The CHP was certain about who caused the accident I was in from day one, though, and they were certain alcohol was involved from evidence at the scene. I doubt much will change with this story when the final results come in, and I hope this tragedy is a good lesson to all about safe driving. "

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To John Bisnar wrote on Jul 29, 2007 3:07 PM:

" You may be onto something. I recall reading in the Sacramento Bee about an accident last year involving a nineties-model Volvo that also burst into flames, caused a grass fire and burned the occupants to death. It happened on Highway 16 between Sacramento and Ione. "

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Karen F. wrote on Jul 29, 2007 1:19 PM:

" I personally can't believe the insensitivity of this artical of such a tragic accident to a young woman, Cyrstal Scott When did belittling a person's character become acceptable, as if to say what? Her death didn't really matter because she wasn't featured on Better Homes and Gardens last week?" Is it so uncommon to use common sense? My heart goes out to all that loved Crystal, especially her mother. God Bless. "

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John Bisnar wrote on Jul 29, 2007 12:14 PM:

" "The Volvo burst into flames...". This is a red flag that the family of Crystal Marie Scott may be well advised to look into from an auto defect point of view. I strongly suggest that the family seek a consultation with a very experienced California auto defect law firm, ASAP. Evidence is crucial in any type of lawsuit. The burned out Volvo may be extremely important evidence. I suggest securing and protecting it until it can be inspected by experts for the Crystal's family. "

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Lodian wrote on Jul 29, 2007 11:45 AM:

" Saddened: Yes indeed. I too hope I will never be in the position where someone I know/love has died after driving drunk, reckless and killed others. That would definitely be a horrible nightmare! I certainly would not be on a message board posting to people, that have good points about drunk and/or reckless driving that kills, unless of course it was to plead with them to NOT drink and drive. "

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to ANOTHER VIEW wrote on Jul 29, 2007 11:41 AM:

" That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read. KUDOS to LNS for digging up the past of a woman that was hit head on and burst into flames and burned to death in her car. KUDOS???? What is wrong with you??? If you are referring to the report on Brandons past record then that post belongs on his blog, not Crystals. "

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Lodian wrote on Jul 29, 2007 11:36 AM:

" Another View: Well, I was with ya until you said "...wears tattoos and likes rap music". You went over the top into crazy territory. "

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To "to wwjd wrote on Jul 29, 2007 10:25 AM:

" It saddens me what has happened, but there are many loop holes going on with this accident, no skidmarks, no marks of overcorrecting. You don't beleive me, go check it out, since you all are so engulfed and opinionated with this story. I hope nothing happens like this to your family or friend, because you will all be total hypocrites. "

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TO "to wwjd" wrote on Jul 29, 2007 10:25 AM:

" Are you a spy? Shame on you for coming to his celebration of life and watching to see how his family and friends act. I myself did not drink, but made sure people were leaving with designated drivers. Get a life, and stop this bashing of a dead man. All you people on here need to get off this story and appreciate what you have. "

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Bandon's enablers.... wrote on Jul 29, 2007 9:38 AM:

" All of Brandon's enablers (friends, relatives, drinking-buddies) need to take a look at the part they played in this tragedy -- and try to keep the next one from happening. Had a few -- or all -- of you told him in no uncertain terms you will NOT associate with someone who drinks and drives, perhaps three people would be alive and breathing this morning. "

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I'll bet Baker didn't expect... wrote on Jul 29, 2007 9:37 AM:

" to spend his 30th birthday being buried now did he? "

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Old Corner Saloon... wrote on Jul 29, 2007 9:22 AM:

" The Old Corner Saloon should probably be shaking in their boots by now. I'm sure the ambulance-chasers have contacted the victims' families -- and the lawsuit is written up, ready to file. Hope they purchased a very large liability policy.... "

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dogbark at LNS wrote on Jul 29, 2007 9:19 AM:

" This story seems to be a patchwork quilt culled from post-it notes. The only thing missing is the service records of the police officers at the scene and what their favorite watering hole is. "

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Another view wrote on Jul 29, 2007 8:51 AM:

" One crime should be a warning. Thats why we have three strikes and your out. Its unfortunate that three people were killed. Criminal history IS AN INDICATOR of character. 80 % of criminals re-offend. I say KUDOS to the LNS for telling it like it is. If I learn that someone is a dirtbag, or a criminal, or a druggie, or an alcoholic, or wears tattoos, likes rap music, or hang out with any of these types, I am out of there. Its MY CHOICE. These people are accidents waiting to happen. "

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continued wrote on Jul 29, 2007 12:20 AM:

" I am just amazed but if you read the article , it jumps from everything from her past, her boyfriends past, to comments from Brandons future mother in law about him. There is really nothing said of any substance about Crystal, but some dirty laundry they dug up on her past, and information on her past bf, and then we jump to comments from friends of Brandon. This is beyond bad taste and bad journalism. "

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Can someone explain wrote on Jul 29, 2007 12:15 AM:

" to me... First of all we all agree what was written on Crystal's article is beyond disgraceful. But explain to me why even in an article that was supposed to be meant to tell us who she was, ENDS IN COMMENTS FROM BRANDONS FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF WHAT A GREAT GUY HE WAS. This should have been about her, not about him. He had more than his piece in the paper, and LNS had to end Crystals in captions about the driver in the other car. C'MON LAYLA! "

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imho wrote on Jul 28, 2007 11:58 PM:

" Not only does LNS owe an apology to Crystals family, but I think they owe all of us an accurate article of who she was, what her name is , a respectful article so people can appreciate who this beautiful young woman was. A face, a name, some history on who she was and what her life was about , instead of exploiting the ugly things they did. If they cant show the respect, someone that knew her should write something for her. "

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TO WWJD wrote on Jul 28, 2007 11:32 PM:

" BINGO, YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD! HIS CELEBRATION OF LIFE WAS A DRUNKEN BRAWL WITH HUNDREDS OF YOUNG ADULTS THAT DRANK AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT AND DROVE OUTTA THERE! SHAMEFUL THAT NO ONE LEARNED A THING FROM THIS TRAGEDY AND I ONLY PRAY THAT HISTORY DOESNT REPEAT ITSELF WITH ALL THE DRUNK DRIVERS! "

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well wrote on Jul 28, 2007 10:52 PM:

" lets see: Did you move to another town? "

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Brianna wrote on Jul 28, 2007 9:52 PM:

" Baker was a good man, he had a great heart, people talked crap on him everyday, and he never stopped smiling. He would have never hurt that girl on purpose. Baker was like my older brother, and for those of you who think that we are all going to celebrate his life by drinking a driving, I think not. You people are ignorant for not letting his spirit rest. I loved him.Leave him alone. "

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Saddened wrote on Jul 28, 2007 9:21 PM:

" Lets see...LNS should be very careful in what they report but they never hurt anyone as deep as the bloggers on here do. I was so hurt by some of you that even blogged on this page. I hope none of you ever find yourself in a horrible situation that people abuse you in this forum. "

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continued wrote on Jul 28, 2007 8:19 PM:

" layla, you have no heart. This womans past has nothing to do with her death. You're a troll who sits around waiting for horrible things to happen to people so you have something to report on. You have no class. you owe crystal scotts family an apology. "

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to layla wrote on Jul 28, 2007 8:15 PM:

" I just lost all respect for you. this story is trash. this VICTIMS background has nothing to do with her death. People like yourself are the exact reason more victims dont come forward and crimes go unreported to authorities. you, the news media, the justice system and defense attornies, just to name a few, drag the VICTIMS name through the mud. What if this drunk driving death happened to a member of your family who had a past? "

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candy wrote on Jul 28, 2007 6:59 PM:

" This goes out to crystals family.... Forget everything you have read people are ignorant, all my heart felt sympathy goes out to you. Crystal was a beautiful girl im so very sorry all my love candy "

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Colleen Riggs wrote on Jul 28, 2007 6:45 PM:

" I think that is really sad that in this journalist felt she needed to include the information about Crystals probation. I also wonder how Bakers fiance's family could sit there and say that this wasnt Bakers fault. I feel for Bakers family and friends and their loss because its their fault he made a really bad decision. Its also not fair that he chose to drink and drive and take the life of someone and that that person away from their family. Baker a made selfish decision that night and now both families have to pay for it. "

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Re: The Old Corner Saloon wrote on Jul 28, 2007 6:21 PM:

" This place was such a big part of Brandon's life it was even mentioned in his obit. Too bad that fact is celebrated instead of regretted. "

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wow wrote on Jul 28, 2007 5:39 PM:

" Let this be do not drag this in the mad if Brandon would of made it he would not of been able to live with hinself.So let this go and don"t drag their names into the mud thank you. "

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To Layla wrote on Jul 28, 2007 5:38 PM:

" I am shocked at this article. Can you explain to your readers what you could have possibly been thinking when you wrote this about the victim? How did you think that would make her mother feel? you have some explaining to do. "

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Lodi Mom wrote on Jul 28, 2007 5:15 PM:

" Forget about being fair to Brandon's family. Did forgery ever murder two people? LNS should be ashamed and stop stooping lower than dirt to get what they may consider a story. The focus should be one the alcoholic crime that resulted in the murders and what to do to educate to try avoid these situations, not horrible news articles. Since when has the LNS become a tabloid?? Written for sensationalism. "

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lets see wrote on Jul 28, 2007 4:51 PM:

" if this goes to print in the blogs...I myself was a person destroyed by LNS one sided , sensationalism and many untrue statements that they dug into. I was sensationalized to the point my family had to move from the area and my son had to change schools, many things were 100% untrue. I stood with onlookers in horror as Crystals car burned with her in it, what they have done to her memory of her life lived is despicable. "

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PitBullLawyer wrote on Jul 28, 2007 4:04 PM:

" LNS, you should be ashamed, and Ms. Bohm, your "reporting" style would better serve Star Magazine or other publication of that ilk. I can't fathom how Ms. Scott's past relationship or petty crimes contribute anything newsworthy to this article. Poor taste, and poorly done. "

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Lodian wrote on Jul 28, 2007 3:42 PM:

" Wow, an innocent woman gets killed by a drunk reckless driver and her past gets plastered in the newspaper? There is something seriously wrong with this. Tacky, inappropriate, disrespectful, unnecessary and just plain wrong are words that come to mind. Raise the bar. "

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Notsurprised wrote on Jul 28, 2007 3:29 PM:

" Its not a shock that three people are dead alcohol was involved and brandon baker was the cause he was always reckless in school and just had not grown up so dont make excuses or place sympathy on his door step he killed innocent people because of carlessness and stupidity thats all that needs to be said. "

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Dont Want to believe! wrote on Jul 28, 2007 3:26 PM:

" Unfortunatly I was friends with both Crystal and Baker, and know that both families are having a hard time dealing with this. I am so sorry to the families involved, I dont want to believe that something like this actually happened and I really dont want to read any dirt the LNS can dig up on Crystal, she was a wonderful person and both her and her family deserve respect! Let us grieve the daughter, sister, and friend she was too us all! "

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Just a thought... wrote on Jul 28, 2007 3:24 PM:

" I am a journalist from a completely unrelated publication/community. From experience, it is possible that the quote from McCracken came prior to the CHP reporting alcohol involved. 1)On the CBS report Wed. they said alcohol was not a factor 2)McCracken was interviewed in that report. This could be a case of a poorly written story or bad journalism. I'd like to see what his blood alcohol level actually was. Finally, drunk driving is a matter my family and I take very seriously, so don't think it the possibility here doesn't bother me. My prayers are with all families involved. "

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What is LNS thinking? wrote on Jul 28, 2007 2:44 PM:

" I agree that LNS should put a front page apology to this woman's family. Looking up dirt on her was WRONG! She had done nothing wrong but get in the way of a drunk driver. If this had been a rape would the LNS had an article about the victims past affairs??? NO WAY! That would be tacky, well, LNS, this article and the blurb about her being on probabtion was just as TACKY! "

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As Per A Clements Witness wrote on Jul 28, 2007 2:38 PM:

" I saw Brandons' car at the "Old Corner Saloon" (the bar in Clements) on my way out of town to Burson. When I came back I noticed the smoke but didn't put the 2 together until yesterday. The Old Corner Saloon should be as liable for letting him get in the car drunk after he had been there drinking. The LNS had no reason to add this "juicy" tidbit about this woman's past, that was just wrong. "

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One more thing wrote on Jul 28, 2007 2:35 PM:

" The article says Crystal made no excuses for her boyfriend's behavior. Some of Brandon's enablers who post on these blogs could learn a thing or two from her. "

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disappointed wrote on Jul 28, 2007 2:23 PM:

" To the last comment made by "to reader" you have to be kidding about fairness to Brandon's family. Putting past news about Ms Scotts life is not fair. She, as I said before was the victim, not Brandon. I am sorry that he is gone, but............... "

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WHAT A BUNCH OF BS wrote on Jul 28, 2007 2:11 PM:

" Brandon doesnt deserve fairness right now. He killed a girl because of his alcoholism. Some things are just so bad they don't deserve fairness. And ANYONE who tries to defend this horrific chain of events that led to an innocent womans death is a POS theirself. "

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WWJD wrote on Jul 28, 2007 1:46 PM:

" Will Brandons friends "celibrate his life" with booze then drive home ? I'm betting on that one. "

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To Reader wrote on Jul 28, 2007 1:43 PM:

" I think the paper was trying to be fair to Brandon's family and friends. They've all been complaining that "everyone has skeletons in their closet", so here are Crystal's skeletons. It appears they don't include drunk or unsafe driving, though, and she was obviously very much against it. May she rest in peace. "

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LNS SUCKS wrote on Jul 28, 2007 1:33 PM:

" LNS SHOULD ISSUE AN APOLOGY ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS PIECE OF CRAP PAPER TO CRYSTAL SCOTTS FAMILY AND FRIENDS. YOU PEOPLE AT LNS SUCK! "

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LNS Non-Subscriber wrote on Jul 28, 2007 1:31 PM:

" SHAME ON YOU LNS! What does being on probation for theft and forgery have to do with being an innocent victim and being burned alive? "

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No Blame? wrote on Jul 28, 2007 1:20 PM:

" Drinking + driving + speeding adds up to disaster. How sad for those that died and the families and loved ones that they left behind. God bless you. "

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Loss Of Respect wrote on Jul 28, 2007 1:19 PM:

" I grew up with all involved and am both disappointed in "a poor choice made" and greatly saddened for the loss of them all. I will say that LNS has a nack for printing BS and also "one sided" stories. God has a plan for us all, and not one of us is PERFECT and we ALL make MISTAKES... "

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Emma wrote on Jul 28, 2007 1:11 PM:

" Ms Bohm and LNS...why would you include the victim's past in your story?...What purpose does it serve?...It's not news and she wasn't a public figure...I didn't know her, but her memory doesn't deserve that...How about you Ms. Bohm?...What's in your past?...An F in journalism, perhaps?...We need to know. "

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Reader wrote on Jul 28, 2007 11:48 AM:

" "No local driving, alcohol or drug convictions could be found for Scott, though she was on probation for a number of theft and forgery cases." Why are you looking for "dirt" on the woman? She was drinving down the road, minding her own business and her life was taken away. A boyfriend is in prison for doing things similar to Mr. Baker but her association to Mr. Gillit makes it sound like "What goes around, comes around." These three deaths are tragic. She is a victim. "

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to disappointed wrote on Jul 28, 2007 11:35 AM:

" I have tried to agree with you on your comment but apparently lns doesnt want to post my opinion agreeing with you 100% "

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Accident? wrote on Jul 28, 2007 11:27 AM:

" "It was an accident. You can't blame anyone for this." Choosing to drink and drive is no accident, it's an accident waiting to happen, and now 3 people are dead because of that choice. Given Mr. Baker's driving record, it was only a matter of time. I feel for the families and friends of the victims. "

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Again, I am sooo sorry for your loss wrote on Jul 28, 2007 11:02 AM:

" Both family's have a tremendous amount of grief and sorrow to work through and my heart does go out to you all. But, please don't minimize what Brandon did by calling it an accident. An accident occurs when literally no fault can be found by either party's involved. But when a person knowingly gets behind a wheel after having been drinking, then drives at a high rate of speed, it's almost certain disaster will follow. And that's no accident. From the bottom of my heart, I will pray for your families. "

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I seriously hope and pray wrote on Jul 28, 2007 11:00 AM:

" that this deadly accident will cause at least one person to think twice before getting behind the wheel of a car after having been drinking. Just don't do it. Lay down your pride and your stupidity for one second and ask somebody for a ride home. Don't have any friends? Then call a taxi. If you have the money to drink, you certainly have money to pay for a taxi ride home. Everybody wins that way. "

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I am very sorry for both family's loss wrote on Jul 28, 2007 10:58 AM:

" however, what Brandon did was not an accident. Since he had been drinking, he made a conscious choice to get behind the wheel of a potentially deadly weapon. Sadly, the car was the deadly weapon. Even if Brandon hadn't been drinking, just speeding alone has the potential for disaster. People speed way too much out on our streets. Mix that w/alcohol and the results are three people dead. "

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also wrote on Jul 28, 2007 10:33 AM:

" maybe the impact of this tragic event would have been better delivered to put a picture of Crystal's totally charred vehicle in the paper instead of her ex boyfriend. If nothing else a first hand view of what witness's saw and maybe her life lost could save someone elses daughter or loved one, believe me it would make everyone stop and think hard, if they could have seen her car. "

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to disappointed wrote on Jul 28, 2007 10:28 AM:

" I couldnt agree more with you. That was tasteless on behalf of LNS, and also dont really see why the picture and focus on her former boyfriend was incorporated in her article either. She was a beautiful young person, seeing her grief stricken father placing flowers at her memorial and having to helplessly watch her car explode in flames first hand would surely warrant more respect than was given in her article. "

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Why wrote on Jul 28, 2007 10:16 AM:

" They tell us about her crimes in an attempt to shed light on the type of person she was. KARMA! "

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You can't blame anyone? wrote on Jul 28, 2007 10:10 AM:

" BS. BS. Anyone who drinks and gets behind the wheel is responsible for his/her actions. BS. I'm sorry for your loss of a future son-in-law. And the loss of your moral sanity. "

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Ms. Mccraken... wrote on Jul 28, 2007 10:09 AM:

" I'm sorry but you are out of your mind. There is someone to blame and that would be Brandon Baker. Had he been driving correctly and not drunk these people would be alive today. You can take your comments elsewhere, no one is buying it!!! "

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sad wrote on Jul 28, 2007 9:59 AM:

" so what does her past have to do with her death? was her life less meaningful because she had a trobled pass? was it pay back for what her boyfriend did? I cannot see the difference between news reporting and gossip here. to her family Im so sorry for your loss and to have this story printed added insult to injury..shame on LNS "

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feeling for the families wrote on Jul 28, 2007 9:58 AM:

" I was very saddened that this young womans past had to be mentioned - was that necessary ? The phrase irresponsible journalism comes to mind - would the article have read the same if she were your daughter, sister or friend ? "

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sam wrote on Jul 28, 2007 9:41 AM:

" to disappointed, I thought the same thing. My prayers go out to Crystal's family and friends. What a tragic way to die. "

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Angry in Clemments! wrote on Jul 28, 2007 9:40 AM:

" If we could all feel some consolation in this horrific accident that some minds and hearts had been changed when it comes to drinking and speeding it might begin to make sense. But to read the blogs from Brandon's friends it is to say the least maybe the biggest trajedy. These are senseless,stupid, ignorant,and selfish individuals who will continue to put inocent people at risk everytime they think they are bigger than life, and think they have the right to drink and drive! Angry this horrific accident happened, and angry at condoning drinking and driving!!! "

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i agree wrote on Jul 28, 2007 9:10 AM:

" with you disappointed, I think that was in poor taste. Also if you saw the memorial, she was a beautiful girl, and I would have liked to see her picture in the paper instead of an old boyfriend of hers, who really had nothing to do with this incident. Who cares about him or her past history. She should have more respect given to her as she died a horrible death. The fire was so fast we couldnt pull her from the car. "

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To Disappointed wrote on Jul 28, 2007 8:39 AM:

" No kidding, LNS coul dhabe left that out. While theft and forgery are offensive, THEY DONT KILL! "

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I cant belive wrote on Jul 28, 2007 8:30 AM:

" the fiance's mother said this "was an accident....you cant blame anyone for this". WHAT????? excessive speed, alcohol....come on. THats not an accident! I'm sorry for the victims families, but it was NOT AN ACCIDENT! "

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from woodbridge wrote on Jul 28, 2007 8:15 AM:

" alcohol or no alcohol he was driving irresponsible" and that is it "

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Cindy wrote on Jul 28, 2007 8:15 AM:

" "It was an accident. You can't blame anyone for this." ARE YOU CRAZY? THE MAN WAS DRUNK -- DELIBERATELY! Looks like Baker was surrounded by enablers -- which might help explain why he was still drunk and driving at the age of 29! "

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WWJD wrote on Jul 28, 2007 8:08 AM:

" I agree disappointed. There was no need for that information. "

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disappointed wrote on Jul 28, 2007 7:50 AM:

" I am disappointed that the paper felt it necessary to say that the woman, Ms Scott, involved in the accident had a record for forgery and was on probation. She was the victim in this accident, not the cause. "

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