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Scott McClarrinon talks about the area around his KB Home on Thursday morning. McClarrinon estimates 60 of the 80 homes in his subdivision are now either for sale, in foreclosure or for rent. (Jennifer M. Howell/News-Sentinel)

Lodi homeowners find dream neighborhood not so charming

By Chris Nichols
News-Sentinel Staff Writer
Updated: Saturday, June 30, 2007 5:38 AM PDT

Scott McClarrinon says he was duped.

The 31-year-old Galt native thought he was buying into a dream when he and his wife purchased their home at The Villas of Lodi in November 2005.

He imagined he would raise his family in the two-story stone and stucco home at 455 Tuscolana Way. His home is tucked among 80 residences at the tastefully designed subdivision, complete with stately light posts and cobblestone courts.

Many of the homes even overlook a block of vineyards near Harney and Cherokee lanes.

Yet as soon as McClarrinon moved in, his dream and his neighborhood began to crumble.

The homes that had been snatched up so quickly at the peak of the housing boom sat empty for months at a time, with their owners nowhere to be found.

Green lawns turned to brown, left unkempt in the hot spring and summer months.

Tall weeds began to sprout in place of neatly landscaped front gardens.

"For sale" signs popped up throughout the neighborhood, replaced later by "for rent" signs.

Pigeons began to roost on top of abandoned homes, leaving a mess below.


(Marc Lutz/News-Sentinel)

McClarrinon's vision of a vibrant community of homeowners — as promised by builder KB Home — vanished.

"There's just not a lot of homeowners here," he said this week, noting that his neighbors now consist of renters, from a trio of exotic dancers next door to a group of five young men nearby who throw loud parties late into the night.

"It's just not what we envisioned," he said of the community.

A shattered dream

McClarrinon and a few of his neighbors acknowledge that they bought their homes at the worst time possible. (Home prices have slumped since 2005).

But they also contend that KB Home misled them about what kind of community they were moving into — a now blighted neighborhood they say threatens to drag their home values even further down.

They say the home-building giant promised to not sell to out-of-town investors — people who likely would not live in the homes or take close care of them.

Reached for comment this week, a KB Home spokesman said his company can't always control who moves into one of their communities.

The company did have buyers sign an agreement requiring them to occupy their homes for at least the first year, said spokesman Craig LeMessurier.

"It's our policy to not sell to investors," LeMessurier said. "But we can't always guarantee that that's not going to happen."

He noted the company can't strictly enforce the one-year occupancy rule either.

"Obviously there are certain circumstances where a buyer may have to move (before the one year is up) — he gets a job — and we take that into account," LeMessurier said.


Darin Parvin talks about The Villas neighborhood while walking with neighbor Scott McClarrinon near 99 and Harney Lane on Thursday morning. Since the pair bought their own houses from KB Home, the area has deteriorated. (Jennifer M. Howell/News-Sentinel)

He noted that the company's legal department does go after owners who sell within a year and who do not have "hardships" or extenuating circumstances.

"We say it's our policy, but at the same time we can't guarantee it," he added.

The Villas are not the only community in the region that has seen out-of-town investors buy and then abandon homes, due to the sluggish market. "For sale" signs dot many Lodi and Stockton neighborhoods. And foreclosure rates in San Joaquin County are the highest in the nation, according to RealtyTrac, which publishes a nationwide list of foreclosed properties.

As of this week, there were 1,952 homes in foreclosure in the county, according to Web site.

McClarrinon's inquiries to the city of Lodi about KB's sales practices — and about how to address matters like sprinklers that spouted water straight up in the air for weeks, or others that had been permanently shut off — were met with some help.

Joseph Wood, the city's top code enforcement officer, said he contacted KB about the lack of upkeep at the subdivision. That led to some improvements, including some landscaping work paid for by KB, LeMessurier said.

Even so, residents say many of the problems persist.

The experience has frustrated McClarrinon along with neighbors Christine and Darin Parvin to no end.

The three feel stuck in the neighborhood, unable to make a return on their homes because of the slumping market, but also because any potential buyer would be turned off by the blighted homes that surround them.

"I'm so mad. I'm just mad," McClarrinon said, standing next to his dining room table covered with stacks of e-mail copies and letters he's written to KB Home, the city of Lodi and print-outs on the region's housing market.

The slumping housing market has led to a record number of foreclosures statewide. San Joaquin county, with a rate of 49 percent, ranks No. 1 in the nation for its metropolitan foreclosure rate, pushed largely by foreclosures in Stockton. The rate is determined by the number of foreclosures versus the number of homes purchased. Other counties with a higher number of houses have more foreclosures but could still have a lower foreclosure rate.
• 39,448, statewide
• 6,034, Los Angeles County
• 4,950, Sacramento County
• 1,952, San Joaquin County
• 1,448, Stanislaus County
• 523, Merced County
Source: RealtyTrac and http://www.foreclosure.com.

"My property value has dumped ... I've got the worst of both worlds," he said.

McClarrinon bought his home for $364,000, and the Parvins bought theirs for about $350,000, they said. And while sale prices in the city have hovered around $350,000, both couples feel they'd take a significant loss if they sold now.

McClarrinon, a clean shaven man with short brown hair and an intense stare, is now separated from his wife, at least partly because of the ordeal at The Villas.

He said he wants to leave the city, his neighborhood and shattered dream behind.

"I want to say I really like Lodi," he said, standing at the end of Tuscolana Way, where he estimated more than half the homes are for sale, in foreclosure or being rented. "(But) there's no charm out here."

Symptoms of a slumping market

Housing experts and city leaders are mixed on what has caused the dramatic changes at The Villas.

Some, like Wood, say the slumping housing market will lead to more abandoned homes and blight, especially in newer neighborhoods like McClarrinon's.

"It's an issue that is really going to take off," he said, noting his Stockton neighborhood has seen signs of the same problem. "It already has increased ... and will progressively get worse because of the way the market is."

Wood said he's even mowed his neighbor's lawn. The home has been largely abandoned by its owners, he said.

Subprime mortgages and sinking home values have been blamed for the inventory of homes either foreclosed upon and abandoned or up for sale.

Still, not everyone feels the market and its many foreclosures will affect the rest of Lodi the way it has The Villas.

There aren't as many new homes in the city as surrounding communities. And Lodi has something other cities don't always have, some said.

"Lodi has a lot of pride in ownership," said Paul Mertz, a longtime Lodi real estate broker. "Neighbors will pitch in to take care of an eyesore."

That's the solution favored by City Manager Blair King.

He noted that most of the problems at The Villas were civil matters and not necessarily city matters.

The city does have fire, health and safety ordinances. But having brown patches of lawn or clumps of weeds doesn't trigger city enforcement, he said.

"We don't require that everyone maintain a green lawn," he added. "And I don't think the public wants us to ensure everyone has a green lawn."

Because KB never established a homeowners association at The Villas, enforcing the subdivision's codes, covenants and restrictions (which address issues like landscaping and lighting) will be nearly impossible, Mertz noted.

Not the Lodi they expected

Some conditions at The Villas have gotten so bad that Scott McClarrinon has taken to manually turning on his neighbors' sprinkler systems to water burned-up lawns.

He and neighbors Christine and Darin Parvin say they have little choice but to take matters into their own hands, literally.

The Parvins said they never expected a Lodi community to turn out the way it has. They say many of the renters that have moved into The Villas show little or no desire to maintain the lawns, yards and quiet of the neighborhood.

They, like McClarrinon, feel misled by KB Home and are ready to leave Lodi.

"In Lodi, you expect a community to serve the small town feel," Christine Parvin said. "But after you move in here, you find out the neighborhood is 80 percent Bay Area investors."

Homeowners aren't the only ones concerned.

Mandy Joachim said she's been hit by three burglaries since she moved in, two to her car and one to her garage. She's rented her home on Cortofino Lane just down the street from McClarrinon and the Parvins for a year and a half, and worries more crime could come to the neighborhood.

"I think a lot of it has to do with the empty houses," she said, standing in front of her home this week. "Most of the homeowners aren't here and don't talk to one another."

Reader Feedback

lodi-citizen wrote on Jul 13, 2007 6:09 PM:

" TO OWNER-you were NEVER a renter, NEVER? Did you move straight from Mom & Dad's house to a house you bought? Were you a 'Renter' like the ones you are accusing of being of lower social stature, or somehow inferior to owners? Do your adult children rent? If so, are they of this lower caliber than you as an 'Owner'? "

Realtor Not wrote on Jul 13, 2007 4:29 PM:

" What does this article have to do with Realtor's? Here is some schmuck, going through a divorce and blaming others for his problems. This has nothing to do with poor construction, bad lenders, realtors, or anybody else. This is a case of bad timing in a terrible market, nothing more. But, there are those that love to blame everbody else for their problems. Stop whining. "

realtor wannabe wrote on Jul 13, 2007 4:28 PM:

" Yesterday I couldn't even spell realtor, and now today I are won. LOL "

T & C wrote on Jul 13, 2007 4:27 PM:

" Great agent, those attorneys you have access to are the same people that will, for about $2000, take care of and prepare and inspect all the necessary paperwork to sell your own home. We used one when selling our house in NYcity and saved $45,600 in realtor and other needless fees that come along with them. Most people don't realize that and any seller that at least doesn't pursue this method is giving his profits away. "

Great Agent Stays wrote on Jul 13, 2007 12:13 PM:

" In response to the question regarding hiring a Realtor to find me a home… Yes I did hire a Realtor when I purchased my first home and that is what lead me into Real Estate I found a passion in it and also found my calling in my career. But to hire one now is just plane silly because NOW I am one,,,loll "

To Great Agent continued wrote on Jul 12, 2007 8:04 PM:

" You NEVER see anyone in the house, and the car never moves. The lights always turn on and off at exactly the same time. No newspapers outside no signs of human activity just bare walls and a table lamp that turns on at regular intervals. Is this what really happens? Someday I think I'll knock on their door to see what happens? "

To Great Agent wrote on Jul 12, 2007 8:03 PM:

" Did you ever work for a builder directly? I have a few questions. I have noticed that sometimes builders will build a spec house or two and put in phoney curtains or drapes with a table lamp on timer. They will also park a late model car in the driveway. They do this to shill prospective buyers into thinking that people are already buying. You can see on of these prepped houses off of 8 mile road. "

Beazer and Lenmar are no better wrote on Jul 12, 2007 7:58 PM:

" Lenmar, Pulte, KB, Beazer, Ryland, make production houses. There is minimal quality control and most make "back end profits" by pressuring buyers to use their financing company. I was looking at local Stockton tract and was told they wouldn't talk to me without a credit application from them? My answer? Call my bank, they know everything you will need to know. They really wanted my detailed personal info sio they could give me a high pressure sales job if I backed out of the deal. "

To Owner wrote on Jul 12, 2007 7:05 PM:

" I agree - I have owned rentals before and am renting now. We are in a Real estate price bubble and I am saving my cash. The CRASH is just around the corner and I predict a price drop of 42%. "Buy low and sell high". Buy back when prices drop back to normal. If you are a homeowner and have a conventional loan before 1998-99 and have no HELOCS or deeds of trust, NOW is the time to sell and take your profit. Every week you wait, you lose money. "

To Realtor wrote on Jul 12, 2007 6:47 PM:

" I agree, but the person who can get hurt the most is the BUYER. The seller doen't care and the realtors care until escrow closes and checks cut to the brokers. I believe in having my eyes WIDE OPEN - I will be stuck with mortgage, taxes, and the untold secrets about the house, neighborhood and schools. I have been burned before ( I used Realtors)and will do anything to avoid that mess again (poor construction, bad schools, "spotty" issues- Real estate jargon for unstated issues with neighbors. "

To Great Agent wrote on Jul 12, 2007 6:41 PM:

" Would you hire a Realtor to help find YOU a house? probably not. I use the MLS and recirds First American Title property profiles,county tax records, zillow.com,realty.com, radarforeclosure.com and the latest DVD rom databases from Dataquick and Realtytrac. The seller must complete and SIGN my own questionnaire and buried in the fine print is a request and approval for full consumer credit reports with FICO. WHY? Its important to know about your prospective seller. Are they honest? financially sound? responsible? trustworthy? Did they lie to me about the REAL history or condition of the house? "

Realtor wrote on Jul 12, 2007 1:42 PM:

" As an agent I know that you must be picky and hire a Realtor not just an agent. There are MANY disclosure forms, lengthy contracts and the average person cannot properly sell their own home and protect themselves from getting sued. Leave it to the agents and negotiate the commission! You are in control and don't blame agents if you don't read your paperwork either. There are bad agents but many good ones. "

Owner wrote on Jul 12, 2007 1:06 PM:

" Trailer trash renters and illegals, "Please go back to the trailer park, and save the homes for people that take pride in them!" Also, it's called a SINGLE FAMILY HOME! Not MULTI FAMILY! Renters, the majority of you are trash and need to get a clue! Clean up your act or leave! "

Owner wrote on Jul 12, 2007 1:01 PM:

" It is sad that Lodi has become the renter's market. In most cases, when you have renters as neighbors they too don't give a rat's but about their grass or overgrown weeds. It seems like when you call the city, they do nothing about it! I'm sorry, but sending a stupid letter to the owner does nothing! "

A Great Agent Stays wrote on Jul 12, 2007 10:34 AM:

" Hire a Realtor, the belong to the National Realtors Assoc. And we have access to Attorney’s that are up and current with all the California Law if unusual questions should arise. Education is always on going with Great Agents. "

Great Agent Stays wrote on Jul 12, 2007 10:31 AM:

" Purchasing the Legal Real Estate forms without knowledge of the current Real Estate Law is tricky business. These forms are changing in verbiage on a monthly basis. Also, you may feel 6% is a lot of money however what the average Client does not know is the a Realtor pays for advertising, insurances, MLS dues, and current schooling. Each home has costs that are not seen by the average Client. "

To Experienced Client wrote on Jul 11, 2007 8:01 PM:

" I'm sorry you got sued. I to buy and sell on my own without RE agents. Realtors can't answer legal questions so in those situations $200 for an hour with a real estate attorney is usually all it takes. I buy the forms that the realtors use from the local realty board for about $50. Over half of the documents are written to keep the realtor out of trouble. My fastest purchase took only three days. Cash deal - we did our own work and saved a bundle - 6% is a lot of money! "

Experienced Client wrote on Jul 11, 2007 8:11 AM:

" I had to learn the hard way that it's better to work with an agent than try to do it yourself. We sold a home by ourselves and didn't completely understand everything (thought the title companies did all the work), well, we got sued and ended up having to buy back our own house. Got a seasoned agent for the resale, listened to her and she sold it quickly. "

TO GREAT AGENT wrote on Jul 10, 2007 2:35 PM:

" You are so right. I had a distrust of real estate agents. Wanted to sell a home in a good neighborhood and had my price all set. The agent had done a comparison packet and explained to me exactly why it would not get that price. Lowered the price realistically and sold the home in a short time. Their is a home a block away from me that was overpriced and has been on the market almost a year. "

Great Agents Stay wrote on Jul 10, 2007 11:33 AM:

" As Realtor’s our jobs to the Clients is to only suggest what is in the best interest of the Client and inform that Client what is happening in the Real Estate market at that time. Most of the time that Client will attach a price point to their home that is what they value their home to be. Then guess what happens then? When that home sits on the market for 6 months the Clients blame the Agent. Great Agents will stay in the game. Those are the Agents Clients should trust. "

PJ (cont3) wrote on Jul 9, 2007 8:39 AM:

" To add insult to injury, she was based out of Elk Grove, and NOW she has a nice McMansion in Granite Bay, where she is now based out of. Glad to know I helped her (along with countless others she ripped off) become a millionaire. "

PJ (cont) wrote on Jul 9, 2007 8:37 AM:

" And the client was completely trusting? Well that happened to me, I'm in a crappy neg am loan when I should have had a fixed rate, which is what I was told. Too much to get into. MY FAULT for trusting someone would be on the up and up. "

PJ wrote on Jul 9, 2007 8:36 AM:

" to mortgage girl - what do you think about a broker that charged her client a $22,000 fee, tacked on all different kinds of prepayment penalties - most were unheard of, LIED and used stated income when the client had docuemtned income (cont) "

To Steward wrote on Jul 8, 2007 1:16 PM:

" I agree-- thats why most of us don't trust Realtors. When they start talking "wonderful this, wonderful that...I say, PUT IT IN WRITING. That stops them because they know they WILL NEVER write what they promise, they might get sued. "

Steward wrote on Jul 8, 2007 8:55 AM:

" Lodi Realtor(4)nailed it, when things start to go bad people blame everyone but themselves. I have worked with realtors for years and have the final say in any dealings that affect me. If you have been around you know who the good realtors are, most can be trusted, their reputation is on the line in every transaction. "

FK wrote on Jul 7, 2007 9:16 PM:

" UPDATE on last message about new web site.. Forgot to give you the address. KBHomeWarning.com "

To Mortgage Girl wrote on Jul 7, 2007 5:44 PM:

" I would guess you're not the most successful in your office and predict you will be unemployed very soon. I would guess your fees go up and down with home prices, just like real estate fees. Your knowledge of how real estate commissions work is shocklingly naive. You say you work on commission, how much do you pay for advertising, E&O Insurance, rent, printing, cards, etc.? "

KB Homes suck wrote on Jul 6, 2007 10:40 PM:

" I feel bad for the homeowners but I just wanted to mention that everyone needs to stay away from ANY KB Home! We bought our first new home in 1996 when they were still "Kaufman & Broad" -had nothing but problems, crooked walls and rotting window sills-took 5 years to get the warranty work done...& that neighborhood also went downhill fast! They are a terrible builder, hmm, wonder why they changed their name! "

To Sour wrote on Jul 6, 2007 10:36 PM:

" I am not worried about the "low fee" companies. They serve an obvious need and until recently an untapped client base. Just as I may prefer an economy car while my sister may prefer a fully loaded Mercedes, each buyer or seller has different needs and wants that may be served better by one brokerage over another. I fully expect that each of my clients would have a wide variety of agents and options to choose from.-Mortgage Girl "

To sour wrote on Jul 6, 2007 10:28 PM:

" If you or others think selling real estate is such an easy, over paid occupation, why not join me in making the big bucks? It's so simple you would'nt believe it. I don't know why everybody doesn't do this. It's like taking candy from a baby. Living on commission only income is a cake walk. Come on folks, let's all work together. How could anyone be foolish enough not to be in this profession? "

Mortgage Girl pt 4 wrote on Jul 6, 2007 10:24 PM:

" I take the responsibility of representing my client's best interest very seriously and even encourage clients that choose to utilize my competitors' services to contact me with any questions. I feel that as a professional it is my responsibility to make sure that my clients fully understand the home buying and mortgage process. If my client finishes their transaction and feels uncomfortable or has unanswered questions, I have failed. "

Mortgage Girl pt 3 wrote on Jul 6, 2007 10:23 PM:

" And finally, yes fees in the real estate and mortgage industry are percentage based. As for why- I have no problem saying I don't know. What I do know is that since this is the accepted practice, it is easier for a potential client to compare my services and charges to that of my competitors if I use the same satndard of fees as they do- in this case % (apples to apples). As I stated in my earlier post, my fees have always been negotiable. "

to sour wrote on Jul 6, 2007 10:21 PM:

" Low fee realtor's have been around for 20 years. Not a single one has succeeded for any length of time. They charge a reduced commission for no service. You get MLS & a 1 line newspaper ad. If I'm wrong, name one successful company in this area. If I bring you a rare buyer in a down market, I make less money. If I bring you a buyer whey you make a huge profit, we both make more money. So? "

Mortgage Girl pt 2 wrote on Jul 6, 2007 10:14 PM:

" 2. As a mortgage professional I do not charge title and escrow fees. I charge a % of the loan amount based on the amount of work needed to get the loan done and a flat fee required by the broker. If a client prefers a flat fee instead of a %, that can be negotiated as well. Title and escrow fees are charged by the title company. 3. I do work for comission. "

Mortgage Girl pt 1 wrote on Jul 6, 2007 10:11 PM:

" I will try to address all comments/questions directed towards me, and I apologize in advance if I miss any. 1. I did not compare myself to a doctor. I was merely pointing out the fact that I consider myself a professional in my field(as I am sure many of you here do) and I find it frustrating that so many who do not work in the industry seem to think that they are experts and understand all that goes into being a real estate agent or loan officer. "

WY wrote on Jul 6, 2007 4:55 PM:

" Oh the models are all sweet, makes you dream and all. Then the real deal comes to play. They got their money. You wanna see WY Twirl...? Send me over some FB boys to BS me about why it is the way it is. All nicey nice goes away with me. I could hog the blog with all the crap I've had to and will be dealing with this yucky company! And everyone in my neighborhood has the same issues. "

WY wrote on Jul 6, 2007 4:51 PM:

" WE paid extra to have an alarm system and the window jacked that all up. So when we leave it's for sure that the police will be looking in when it's windy. They poured my walkways to high so there is no air getting in the walls where the weep sweep is. That could cause toxic mold. That had to be poured 3 times. OMG! 3 times! It's endless! Thay don't give a shcitz. "

WY wrote on Jul 6, 2007 4:46 PM:

" About KB homes... OMG I have all those issues! I'm working on the cabnets right now. My tie is breaking because they didn't set it right. most all my windows have been replaced and they still don't have that right after 6 years.every door in my houes, you can see through when they're closed from the gap.They suck at service. Not the best people to do business with. "

sour wrote on Jul 6, 2007 1:01 PM:

" Realtors are necessary evils. People hire you because they're too busy with life, not because they are lazy or dumb. Now you know how people REALLY feel about you! Those low fee companies have got you guys worried. Isn't that why your industry lobbyists are trying to push them out of the market? Mortgage girl, you work commission? The fact you get the same % for a $200K house as a 1 million $ house will never make sense. Your "fees" should be based on your job quality, not the amount of the loan or price of the house. "

to to don't forget wrote on Jul 6, 2007 12:52 PM:

" This market still has deals. How is the honest buyer going to get them? If you are a broker and you see a "gimme" you can/will buy it or for the info become 1/2 owner before it hits the sheets. Do you pay or have YOU ever heard of a realtor paying "bird dog" fees for a referral for a low priced new listing? Its legal and shouldn't be since the property will never hit the multiple listing service. Brokers and their buddies snag them up very quickly for their own quick flip or development. "

T & C Three wrote on Jul 6, 2007 11:58 AM:

" I wouldn't understand the inspection deficiency here in Lodi with two neighbors having had inspectors to inspect additions and remodels and they were very meticulate and pointed out the problems to remedy them before they'd sign. Were these new homes for the overpriced tracts inspected as thoroughly? It looks like some of those inspections were done at lunch at Wine & Roses. "

To Lodi Realtor wrote on Jul 6, 2007 11:57 AM:

" We got out of this market when it started getting wobbly in April 2005. If you own a house now you better intend to live there another ten years to get any decent appreciation. I recommend selling now to cash out your equity. If you aggressively sell today with a 20% mark off (don't be greedy), you will get a fast no hassle sale and you can let the new owner figure out how long to wait before selling. I say GET OUT now and grab your appreciated profits. "

T & C Two wrote on Jul 6, 2007 11:52 AM:

" What a difference a little personal gift makes. My company always made sure we always had gratuities when needed even to buy a couple cases for a favor from another craft. How do you think these gigantic corporations and contractors get their special favors and impromptu inspections and temporary permits. I played that same game for 25 years and it's so much worse here in Lodi with our CC being owned by them. Just how did all these houses pass inpection with such shoddy construction? "

To Dont forget again II wrote on Jul 6, 2007 11:50 AM:

" I can name three. Last year, I was on my way for an appt to the Realtor, they sold (CHEAPLY) the property to another family friend of the Realtor (within about 10 minutes). CASH deal no mortgage, the owner (Another realtor) needed FAST bucks within DAYS -they were too leveraged and just got a DEED of Trust. They saw other deals and needed more cash. MTG loans are not fast enough! The county recorder shows the home was sold 11 months later with a 100K profit. This owner was also HELOC'd and had to sell FAST. "

T & C One wrote on Jul 6, 2007 11:47 AM:

" As a foreman on the large Frito-Lay project in Bakersfield in 1992, I had sub-contractor who was doing the digging and compacting for the 10" underground fire line and 2 diesel fire pump rooms with two 300,000 gallon water storage tanks and the inspector was slowing him up every day with soil compaction tests. After two weeks, my subcontractor found a solution by leaving a case of Budweiser with a $100 bill stuffed in the top and put it on the floorboard of his Twining Co. work vehicle. "

To Don't forget AGAIN wrote on Jul 6, 2007 11:40 AM:

" I have their name rank an serial number. So what, this "insider trading". I've called the DRE, they say "that's the way RE brokers are". This broker was from SAN JOSE, not local I said that in my response. I went to the LODI Board of Realty and they shrugged their shoulders, and said it was legal.."you want to do it? get a brokers license." "

Taxpayer & Citizen wrote on Jul 6, 2007 11:37 AM:

" I installed fire protection systems for 29 years and am now retired and worked with not only building inspectors, but the local Fire Marshall on every project whether it was one day or 2 1/2 years. They're accountable unlike many building inspectors who work with KB, Frontier and these other large builders and usually wine and dine them on their large projects to accelerate the inspection process. Don't think it doesn't happen here with the same builders and developers that've worked together for several years. Many socialize with one another and are good friends. GOOD OLD BOYS "

Taxpayer & Citizen wrote on Jul 6, 2007 11:29 AM:

" Thishonor system works great and if you try to cheat on a pressure test or cut corners and the owner who buys or occupies the building can go back to the FD and if you stepped on that inspectors' toes or cheated him, he'd have your job. There was no second chance. You paid for it when your reputation asa cheater was established and next job your company had, they'd spend 8 hours on 1 hour inspection and use a microscope and everything that wasn't done by the RedBook and code, they'd make you correct and then reschedule another inspection. "

Taxpayer & Citizen wrote on Jul 6, 2007 11:22 AM:

" In the midst of this scandal, let's not forget the inspection process, either. Inspectors will come and the "builder" will have one home done that's as close as they can get to pass and the inspector will sign off his sheet that will include not only that home but many others, not even looking at them. The practice still goes on today. It's called the "honor system" and I've used it myself for over 20 with the Fire Marshal's in several states. "

Lodi Realtor (pt 4) wrote on Jul 6, 2007 7:58 AM:

" You people are all crying about how MY industry screwed you over, when in FACT you screwed YOURSELF and want to blame someone else for it. It's absolutely pathetic. I'm sure if the agents were still out there selling your over-infalted, under quality homes for you, we'd still be worth our weight in gold. But then, if you were SMART to begin with, you wouldn't be stuck where you are with foreclosures looming over your head. "

Lodi Realtor (pt 3) wrote on Jul 6, 2007 7:54 AM:

" Longtime agents (like myself) would get fired only to be replaced by companies who showed up overnight with bargain basement commissions (you get what you pay for). New agents with zero experience were popping up all over and dropping their commissions down to next to nothing to get the listings and SELLERS didn't seem to care that they had NO EXPERIENCE! "

Lodi Realtor (pt 2) wrote on Jul 6, 2007 7:51 AM:

" Buyers would consisitenly LIE to their lenders to get 100% financing on a NEG-AM loan. Sellers would FLUFF up their homes and flip them overnight using inferior products, but expecting superior returns. "

Lodi Realtor (pt 1) wrote on Jul 6, 2007 7:49 AM:

" Since my profession seems to be getting slammed here, I have one more thing to say. The MOST unscrupulous BUYERS and SELLERS I have EVER had to deal with were over the past few years. People bought houses thinking they were buying an ATM machine and not a home. "

IMO wrote on Jul 6, 2007 6:38 AM:

" sometimes it's not what you say, but how you say it. i believe kb won't fix anything just like i believe kb had anything to do with this guys marital problems. realtors have been over compensated for their "work" for years now. they won't give up the goods without a fight. similarly to the states' perdium issues. "

Bryan wrote on Jul 6, 2007 12:15 AM:

" It is true that there are those in the real estate industry that are unethical and their fiduciary committment maybe lacking or non existent. Once again, however, where is the personal responsibility of individuals today. Today's society needs someone else to blame or a scapegoat, rather than taking personal responsibility for their choices. Accountability seems to be vanishing in America due to politically correct pandering! "

To Don't Forget wrote on Jul 5, 2007 10:13 PM:

" Ok. One more time. Name one local Realtor that competed with you on a purchase of a home. Name one Realtor that got a better deal than you. If you have a house to sell, do you care if a Realtor paid your price? Do you think seller's call agents and say, I am going to list my home at a ridiculously low price, would you like to buy it before anybody else can? Give me a break. "

To Mortgage Girl wrote on Jul 5, 2007 10:03 PM:

" I didn't ask you about your junk fees. I asked about reducing your title and escrow fees. We know the answer is no. Stop biting the hand that feeds you. By the time an agent splits with their broker, pays E&O ins., advertising, etc. they certainly aren't making a killing. A homeowner can always go FSBO if it's that easy. Obviously, you have never worked for commission only. "

To to realtor wrote on Jul 5, 2007 9:54 PM:

" How about this deal. Over the next 5 years, if you house goes down in value I will refund your 6%. If it goes up, you pay me another 6%. Sound fair to you? "

Industry wrote on Jul 5, 2007 8:48 PM:

" The whole mortgage, title, realtor business is a joke. Filled with kick-backs and shady deals like the one "To Don't Forget" is referring to. Spare us the Lodi realtors are noble retoric! Didn't LNS report on a Lodi real estate broker involved in some shady deal re the Delta site? To "mortgage girl pt 3"...you didn't just compare yourself to a doctor did you? This Tom Dick and Harry thinks you're barely a step above a used car salesman! I know doctors, you are no doctor! "

WASHINGTON wrote on Jul 5, 2007 7:17 PM:

" To tired of it, is right. This is a major financial crisis in the making and to signal out a small project and a builder, sounds like sour grapes to me. "

To Freedom Fighter pt2 wrote on Jul 5, 2007 4:33 PM:

" While consumer reports researches products, one of the best way to research a loan officer or Realtor is to visit the Department Of Real Estate website at www.dre.ca.gov under the consumer tab, you can view the record of any licensed agent in the state, including when they were licensed, where their licenses is hung and if there was any disciplinary action taken against them. Also, ask your family and friends for referrals, if they are happy with the service of a real estate agent/loan officer/builder they would be happy to pass the name along. -Mortgage Girl "

To Freedom Fighter pt1: wrote on Jul 5, 2007 4:29 PM:

" What a horrible generalizing comment. While I admit that there are unscrupulous Real Estate agents, mortgage officers and builers out there (see my comments below) that is the exception, not the rule. Please remember that as a consumer (no matter how large or small your purchase) it is your responsibility to research your product/service proior to purchase. If you are uncomfortable in any way, voice your concern and if it is not addressed take your business elsewhere. "

Freedom Fighter wrote on Jul 5, 2007 1:36 PM:

" These REIC members are all crooks! Real estate agents, builders and mtg brokers! "

To Lodi Realtor wrote on Jul 5, 2007 1:29 PM:

" Local Lodi Realtor statement made to me TODAY! 7/5/07 "Lodi is a nice place to live, the prices can only go up from here!" Now you want to talk about honest realtors? How about agreeing to buy back my house and return my 6% if the property drops in value over the next trwo years! I'll buy TODAY if you agree to that. If you say it---put it in writing, or you are not telling the truth. "

To Don't forget wrote on Jul 5, 2007 1:00 PM:

" Okay, if you are so honorable then tell me why you think that brokers should compete with their own customers for the same houses? Agree that inside trading by brokers and their reps should be made a felony? Do you have another way to keep brokers honest? "

To Tired of it wrote on Jul 5, 2007 12:57 PM:

" This is the largest housing bust in the US since the great depression. Over 60 of the largest mortgage companies are bankrupt. Bear Sterns is losing Billions to mortgage fraud and the FBI, FTC and state police agencies are busy going after corrupt builders, realtors and mortgage companies- Now you want to pretend everything is okay? "

To Longtime Realtor wrote on Jul 5, 2007 12:52 PM:

" I AGREE- We also need to require at least a minimum of a BA degree to keep out the "bums" and "wannabes" and require stricter ethical standards by the CDE. We need to increase the Broker and Agent license fees AND use this to fund a new CDE investigations staff with police powers (arrest authority handcuffs and guns) to go after crooked real estate salesman/brokers. What do you think about that? "

To Don't Forget wrote on Jul 5, 2007 12:46 PM:

" I hired a "Buyers Agent" and provided my requirements (street,block), we met four times. Five weeks later he told that "nothing" was available on this street. I ran a Tax records search and found a new transaction. This Realtors name was recently recorded on a property I specified! I confronted him and he told me he was legally able to buy any property regardless who did the research. He bragged he paid NO MONEY down and got 50% interest by just "knowing" about the property (never listed). He had his roomate pay the down and closing fees. "

To Don't Forget wrote on Jul 5, 2007 12:19 PM:

" The Realtor livces in San Jose (at least thats the story she gave me) and she "helped" her children buy the homes to help them out. Only problem with that story is whe was trying to sell one to me, that had never been occipied since constructed. The other houses for her "sons" have already been flipped. She thought I was naiive for "not understanding " how the game works. Do you want the APN's? Look it up yourself, you have the access. "

About KB wrote on Jul 5, 2007 11:20 AM:

" You want to know how good KB's Customer service is? Call Merci Heu of Shinnick Ryan Law in Stockton. She is the para-legal for a class action lawsuit against KB in "The Vineyards" development where there have been many problems including defective windows, poor cabinet work, concrete slab cracking, etc. KB never fixed anything at my home other than to patch cracks. Every other claim they "denied" for one reason or another. I now have windows that I can't see out of because they have mold / mildew between the panes. "

Mortgage Girl wrote on Jul 5, 2007 11:05 AM:

" In regards to the question posed to me regarding the reduction of title and escrow fees- Title and escrow fees are determined by the Title company, not the Realtor. If an agent has a good relationship with a title company, they may be able to negotiate a discount but the only fee that a Real Estate agent has total control over is their commission. Title/escrow, hazzard ins, appraisal fees and other inspection fees are all set by those providing the service. "

IMO wrote on Jul 5, 2007 7:00 AM:

" interesting that some stories take on a life of thier own. who'da thunk this story woulda? not me. but i can see how and why. who caught the dateline report on the online realtors. how they work for thier clients and the C21's of America want to stomp out the online realtors. realtors...regardless of the builder, seller, it's the buyer that chooses when and where they choose to buy. location, location, location. this place is RIGHT off the freeway off and on ramps. when i saw them building there, my first thought was easy rob and run action. "

brown lawns rule wrote on Jul 5, 2007 1:02 AM:

" Thanks for spraying the weed killer on other people's lawns. The valley doesn't get enough toxic pesticides and chemicals already from the farmers. We need more to improve our neighborhoods. "

Tired of it... wrote on Jul 4, 2007 11:10 PM:

" Don't you people have anything else better to do??? "

Charles Wilford wrote on Jul 4, 2007 9:56 PM:

" I am quite worried about the future of this fine city after reading the comments of the obviously uninformed realtors and wanna-be realtors that have posted here.. I just hope that this does not represent a majority of knowledge.... "

Longtime Realtor wrote on Jul 4, 2007 5:49 PM:

" People who have been in this business will tell you this has been a long time coming. Prices are ridiculous and overpriced. I can guarantee you it's not the fault of the Realtor. Seller's think there's gold on their property. Any suggestion of a price reduction is met with disdain. "

Longtime Realtor wrote on Jul 4, 2007 5:46 PM:

" "Real" realtors love it when we have times like this. We get the short term agents out of the business. Realtors have been trying to get the State to make licensing more realistic. It's way too easy to obtain a real estate license. Unfortunately we can't convince the State to accept that fact. "

To Don't Forget wrote on Jul 4, 2007 5:08 PM:

" That is a bald face lie! To think a Broker gets first oppportunity to purchase is laughable. First shot at what? Are you suggesting there are all of these stupid seller's that are listing way below the market and the broker is buying? Give me a break. And you say "all of the fsbo's are Realtor owned?" You're an idiot. Who are these broker's big mouth? Give us the names. "

to lodi citizen wrote on Jul 4, 2007 4:45 PM:

" 9% please. "

Don't forget this fact! wrote on Jul 4, 2007 12:28 PM:

" When a seller tries to sell their house through a Realtor, Listing Brokers get first shot at the deal. Any properties that are junk or a bad deal goes to the multiple. Joe buyer never gets to see the deals, only the leftover junk. Realtors represent themselves FIRST! If they don't like this perception they can change the law and make this insider trading a felony. The day they do this is the day I trust Realtors. It will never happen. The five KB "fsbo" Villa proprties I looked at were all owned by a Realtor. "

arrowhead wrote on Jul 4, 2007 11:44 AM:

" exotic dancers? cool "

To Mortgage Girl wrote on Jul 4, 2007 11:01 AM:

" Question. Do you reduce your typical escrow and title fee's 50% during these tough times? In most cases a Realtors cost of doing business goes up, while their income goes down in a slow market. Being an astute mtg girl, I'm sure you know how exceptionaly hard it is to generate a sale in this market. Then the fun begins trying to get the loan approved, property to appraise, etc. We all suffer in a slow market. "

lodi-citizen wrote on Jul 4, 2007 8:47 AM:

" Unlike the LNS, I did some research. There are 4 non owner occupied homes in this project, 2 of which that have mailing addresses within the same subdivision. That's a little over 9% of the project. The subdivision north of it has 15 out of 80 non owner, or almost 20%. I'm no fan of KB Homes, but it would seem they succeeded in reduing the # of investor sales. LNS, do some actual research next time-fact based articles are much more interesting to read-we'll get our fiction from novels... "

What will the Realtors do now? wrote on Jul 4, 2007 12:42 AM:

" What will these people do- keep screaming to buy now? and hang on to property that loses value every month until it hits bottom? "

to WELCOME wrote on Jul 3, 2007 9:06 PM:

" Move. "

Taxpayer & Citizen wrote on Jul 3, 2007 8:21 PM:

" Hopefully this lull in real estate will bring some relief to the overly high prices of homes and afford the younger generation to invest. It will also weed out many of the incapable and incompetent realtors, and especially bogus lenders. I'd trust my business to a local older established Lodi company any time rather than the Coldwell/Bankers and Century 21. They work on volume quantity and quality of agents and loan people are only secondary, with too many agents, many unqualified to conduct RE transactions. "

Taxpayer & Citizen wrote on Jul 3, 2007 8:09 PM:

" Mortgage Girl, you and I know during the boom, realtors' licenses were literally given to anyone that wanted them. Realtors are a dime a dozen and gems, honest ones like yourself, are hard to come by. I still see an ad in the local papers from a realtor that's hiring, but you don't need a license because they'll get you one. I believe they're right here in Lodi.There's a new realty company coming this way that charges only 3% and has already made a big impact in the Bay Area. "

Curious? wrote on Jul 3, 2007 6:53 PM:

" To: Mortgage girl....Please list the Realtors you work with that are willing to list homes for 2.5%. I can't find one? "

Oscar wrote on Jul 3, 2007 6:04 PM:

" Thanks Mortgage Girl....very well said. "

Lodi Realtor wrote on Jul 3, 2007 5:38 PM:

" The folks than ran out there and got their licenses in the last few years have almost all gone home now and back to their day jobs because they can not make it. They don't have the client base, and most of them don't have a clue what they were doing anyway. I am still servicing clients from pre-boom era because my clients KNOW that I care. "

Lodi Realtor wrote on Jul 3, 2007 5:36 PM:

" Look for realtors who have been in business in good and bad times! I have been in this business for several years because I NEVER compromised my intergrity. I can honestly tell you that as for myself and several of my co agents, we were DISGUSTED to see prices soar as high as they did. "

S & W 500 wrote on Jul 3, 2007 4:58 PM:

" Don't blame the realtor, blame the homeowners, and the developer who mis-made promises. Did you know you can find out who owns the home by going to City Hall, and "pulling their file" based on their address. My house was built in the late 30's. My neighborhood is great, aside from one home in which turds reside. Mommys' boy rents it, and turd Jr deals dope and operates a pawn shop out of the garage. I keep my eyes open 24-7. "

Mortgage Girl pt3 wrote on Jul 3, 2007 4:31 PM:

" So the high prices you are seeing are due to the fact that some schmuck wanted to make a quick buck in the real estate game and now owes more than the house is worth. It amazes me that every Tom, Dick and Harry out there seems to be an expert in real estate and lending, but they would never think to tell their Doctor how to do his or her job. "

Mortgage Girl pt 2 wrote on Jul 3, 2007 4:29 PM:

" To all those out there (and there are many) that believe that it is greedy Realtors that are keeping the prices high and placing the buyers and/or sellers between a rock and a hard spot: Yes realtors would love to get a 6% commission on a sale, but in this market 2.5 to 3% is more likely. Also the Realtor does not get paid until the home sells, most realtors would like a little something compared to a lot of nothing. "

Mortgage Girl wrote on Jul 3, 2007 4:27 PM:

" Thanks T&C, I appreciate the compliment. I can not stress enough- especially now with home prices droping- that it is up to the buyer to do their homework. "

WELCOME wrote on Jul 3, 2007 3:58 PM:

" TO: ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS WE DID BUY IN AN "ESTABLISHED" NEIGHBORHOOD - OUR HOME WAS BUILT IN 1959! WHAT HAPPENS IS, AGAIN: WHEN THE ORIGINAL OWNERS MOVE, IT'S A CRAP SHOOT AS TO WHAT YOU GET NEXT. MOST OF MY NEIGHBORS DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH, DON'T OWN GARDEN EQUIPMENT, AND COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE UPKEEP OF THEIR HOME. I THINK WE NEED SOME ENFORCEABLE CODES AND THE MANPOWER TO ENFORCE THEM! I PICK UP GARBAGE, MOW OTHER PEOPLE'S LAWNS, SPRAY WEEDKILLER AROUND THE BLOCK, AND LOAN OUT OUR LAWNMOWER. WHAT MORE CAN BE DONE???? "

Taxpayer & Citizen wrote on Jul 3, 2007 2:58 PM:

" Mortgage girl, it's nice to see someone in realestate that's interesting and honest. You would be my realtor anytime after I interviewed 3 others. Buyers don't realize that they have a choice and can get a cooperative realtor merely by asking. Interestingly. some of those who wanted the lowest loan payments possible were those who thought they could make a quick kill in 2or3 years and a large profit. Those are some of the homes in foreclosure now.Consult a realestate attorney before you sign that contract, no matter what is explained to you without THEM signing an agreement. "

Taxpayer & Citizen wrote on Jul 3, 2007 2:17 PM:

" Wait'll you see these 3new developments. I don't think any offer sidewalks at all, only"biking and walking paths". Every inch of space is utilized for building space and not for resident's use. The city doesn't want the responsibility of sidewalk maintenance when these projects are built, so they don't even require them anymore. In our older neighborhoods we have trees, sidewalks, large unrestricted backyards, detached garages, citrus, nicely manicured front yards, and moost importantly, neighbors that're friendly, close knit and caring. "

Dias wrote on Jul 3, 2007 1:23 PM:

" Ajax, between your views on Wal Mart and KB Home, are you a short guy? Ajax was a tall hero and you are an attorney? "

to: What's Up wrote on Jul 3, 2007 1:06 PM:

" I drove through there yesterday. I think it looks like crap. To each his own. "

Mortgage Girl pt. 3 wrote on Jul 3, 2007 12:48 PM:

" While I admit that there are unscrupulous loan agents and realtors out there, they are the exception not the rule. Housing prices are driven by what the Buyer is willing to pay- not what anyone else may say it is worth. And if you dont believe that- well I have a great deal on some ocean front property in Arizona. "

Mortgage Girl pt. 2 wrote on Jul 3, 2007 12:47 PM:

" Yet I can't count the number of people that think that buying a house is a sure way to make a quick 10k+. I have come accross many clients that want the lowest payment possible (or the lowest interest rate) not caring that the rate will go up in a few years and that they will not be able to afford the house anymore. They will jump from lender to lender for an 1/8 better rate. News flash- if that little of a difference is that important, you cant afford the house! "

Mortgage Girl wrote on Jul 3, 2007 12:46 PM:

" Mr. McClarrion and anyone else who bought during the housing boom using sub-prime financing and is now facing the possibility of losing their home did not do their homework. A home is one of the largest purchases someone makes during their lifetime. Finding a reputable lender that will clearly explain the risks and benefits of a loan program and thouroghly researching a builder (if buying new construction) should be common sense. "

Caspian wrote on Jul 3, 2007 12:01 PM:

" A newer development/neighborhood considered blighted—amazing, not really. This proves it is not the older neighborhoods that suffer from blight. As with every generation of homebuyers and creative capitalists, the results are forthcoming in time. The new generation of homebuyers and financial strategists will indicate the direction of Lodi—as is the point that history provides. You would have to know the owners of the company to understand the issues better (Lodi boys). "