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The Sikh banner waves over the Sikh Temple on Tuesday afternoon in Lodi. (Jennifer M. Howell/News-Sentinel)

Some irked that banner at Lodi's Sikh Temple doesn't include American flag

By Ross Farrow
News-Sentinel Staff Writer
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:40 AM PDT

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The new Sikh Temple in south Lodi has a 60-foot-high canary-yellow banner with the faith's emblem, but some Lodi residents wonder why there isn't an American flag to go with it.

"It's almost a slap in the face as an American and as veterans," said Lodi resident Robin Sarisky. "You're an American first; then everything else falls under that."

Sikh temple leaders say that they don't mean to offend anyone. In fact, the banner isn't really a flag, according to two Lodi Sikh board members, Nirmal Samra and John Takhar.

It's a symbol of their religion, not India, the country where a majority of Sikhs were born.

"That's what American people should understand. It's not a flag," Samra said. "It's like a cross in the Christian church."

The universal Sikh symbol is a glyph (called a Khanda) composed of a central, straight-edged sword, symbolizing truth, surrounded by two curved swords representing temporal power and authority, according to about.com.

Sikh members are confused if some people are offended by their banner. They maintain the banner at the temple doesn't show preference to their native country. It's symbolizes their religion.


Nirmal Samra, vice president of the Sikh temple, points to the place where he says there are plans in the coming months to place a 60-foot staff flying the American Flag with landscaping at West Lane and Armstrong Road. (Jennifer M. Howell/News-Sentinel)

"It sure looks like a flag, and they have it on a great big colorful flag pole," Sarisky said. "They can call it whatever they want."

Although Sikhs haven't been linked to terrorism, Sarisky said that Sikhs should make a greater effort to embrace American ideals and display the American flag.

Takhar said temple leaders will soon erect an American flag at the corner of the temple property at the northeast corner of Armstrong Road and West Lane.

"We're very pro-America," Takhar said.

Gerry Sarisky, the husband of Robin Sarisky, and another Lodi resident, Dennis Regan, wrote letters to the News-Sentinel this year to express their disappointment that an American flag isn't also displayed at the Sikh temple.

Protocol concerning the use of the American flag is that it must be higher than a state flag or the flag of any other symbol.

"It's a brand new temple," Gerry Sarisky said. "I'm sure they could have had a contractor construct a pole one foot higher (for an American flag). It is a way to show people in good faith that they are Americans."

Bill Pfeiffle, ex-commander of Lockeford Veterans of Foreign Wars, said he doesn't see a problem with flying a church banner without an American flag.

All about the Sikh banner

The Sikh banner is a saffron-colored triangular-shaped cloth, usually reinforced in the middle with Sikh insignia in blue.
It is usually mounted on a long, steel pole (which is also covered with saffron-colored cloth) headed with a Khanda.
The Sikh banner is often seen near the entrance to the Gurdwara, or temple, standing firmly on the platform, overlooking the whole building.
Source: SearchSikhism.com.

"There are many ways you can approach these topics," Pfeiffle said.

An assistant professor of history and religious study at University of California, Davis, said he sees no problem with hanging a religious banner without an American flag.

"It's not like they're hanging the Indian flag there," said professor Baki Tezcan. "The Sikhs cannot represent a nation. It is an unfortunate controversy, as far as I can tell."

But Robin Sarisky notes that St. Peter Lutheran School, where her daughter attends, has the American flag flying above the Christian flag. The Christian flag is white and blue with a red cross. The white represents purity and faith, and blue represents faithfulness, truth and sincerity, said former St. Peter Principal Peter Woodward, who is now a deacon. Red is the color of sacrifice.

One reason the banner is about 60 feet high, Takhar said, is so that Sikhs driving through San Joaquin County can see the symbol from Highway 99 or Interstate 5. The banner would let out-of-town Sikhs know where the temple is located in case they want to visit, Takhar said.

Contact reporter Ross Farrow at rossf@lodinews.com.

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Lee wrote on Jun 12, 2007 1:55 PM:

" Leonard, that Great Blog comment was to YOU. "

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Lee wrote on Jun 12, 2007 11:36 AM:

" Hate: I have reread these blogs. I am a white, American male and do not feel like I am being called a villian. "

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Lee wrote on Jun 12, 2007 11:31 AM:

" That Lee 11:02 pm was not me (I am asleep by 10 and rarely on the computer after 5 pm) BUT great response. "

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Leonard wrote on Jun 12, 2007 10:10 AM:

" Lee: Hate and his bunch would never let me in the club. I have too many of my original teeth and not enough tattoos. "

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Lee wrote on Jun 11, 2007 11:02 PM:

" Leonard, If ya can't beat 'em join 'em. "

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Ho Hum wrote on Jun 11, 2007 8:18 AM:

" Webmaster what happened to the discusion board? "

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Leonard wrote on Jun 11, 2007 6:58 AM:

" Lee: You can't talk reason to white supremacists like Hate and expect them to listen. They will just burn a cross on your lawn. "

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lshark44 wrote on Jun 9, 2007 11:45 PM:

" I can't believe this story was even run in print...it shows how backward thinking some people in this city are, and how poor a paper this is for giving them a bully pulpit for their xenophobic, discriminatory views. There is absolutely nothing wrong with not flying an American flag. The beauty of this country is its lack of such restrictions and requirements. Amazing how many forget what this country was founded upon...freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of expression... "

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Ihateourcorruptgovt. wrote on Jun 9, 2007 4:57 AM:

" Lee, My comment pertains not so much to the article but more about the blogs which are posted regarding the article. It is clear that so many keep highlighting Americas freedoms while they abuse those same freedoms to vilify and demonize America, it's founding fathers and Judeao Christian heritage. Read the posts and it is clear that America, the white man and Christianity are the villians in the blogs. "

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to valley native wrote on Jun 8, 2007 8:56 PM:

" what do you mean lodi is racist, white is the minority now check the census report this year. from the tracks east its little mexico and the middle easterners. next time your at a stop light look around and spot the white person (good luck) "

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wellwell wrote on Jun 8, 2007 8:24 PM:

" Hate were you looking in a mirror when you made your 11:29 a.m. post? "

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jesus wrote on Jun 8, 2007 7:31 PM:

" sarisky typical old americans who have no life but to bug innocent people "

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Lee wrote on Jun 8, 2007 4:22 PM:

" To Hate: How is this Sikh Temple "destroying" Amercia? I have never seen them promote "badness, perversion, immorality, socialism, anti-Americanism." They are hard working, freedom-loving Americans. "

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Ihateourcorruptgovt wrote on Jun 8, 2007 11:29 AM:

" Leonard: Read the post! It supports you and all those who hate the white man, America and God. Why so angry. What a pitiful egocentric human being you are. Gee, maybe the hypocricy and guilt are getting to you. But I doubt that. Narcists rarely feel guilt as their ultra ego won't allow that. "

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Leonard wrote on Jun 8, 2007 7:04 AM:

" Hate: So what are you saying? Are you arguing that the Constitution should only be for people who look and think like you do? You are a disgrace and an embarrassment to our nation. "

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Lodina wrote on Jun 8, 2007 12:56 AM:

" And the imposter continues just as I thought in now using "Lodina". See, WY, told ya it wouldn't work changing my handle. "

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Ihateourcorruptgovt wrote on Jun 7, 2007 4:06 PM:

" And let's keep exhaulting all that is against righteousness, our fellowman and God. And let's keep justifying it in the name of FREEDOM! "

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Ihateourcorruptgovt. wrote on Jun 7, 2007 3:52 PM:

" Yes, let us continue to diversify. Forget about "United we Stand and divided we fall." Let's accept all forms of government that hates America, lets accept and promote all religions that hate America's Judeao Christian heritage. Let promote and celebrate every form of badness, perversion, immorality, socialism, anti-Americanism and let's keep hating God, America and the evil white man. Yeah, let's continue to vilify and destroy America! "

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Lodina wrote on Jun 7, 2007 12:22 PM:

" I'm with you WY. "

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WY wrote on Jun 7, 2007 8:13 AM:

" Thank you Audi 5000, for your wonderful post at Ash. What a boob that character is. I really love to see people hit the nail on the head. awesome aim. HaHa Moosehead, Audi beaned ya! lol (I don't care what ya say, that was funny!) "

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WY wrote on Jun 6, 2007 7:38 AM:

" ironic, I thought our American Heros are protecting our freedom of religion, much along with the speech thingy. The pretties Flag in town is out at West Gate. It never fails to fly. Most people fly our flag incorrect. I saw a lawn service man dragging one behind his trailer. It was black and torn on it's edges from dragging in the street, as he drove around town all patriotic and all. Puke! "

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Sarisky (Sorryski) wrote on Jun 6, 2007 1:59 AM:

" ignorance is bless, I tell ya. No research, just preaches "

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people!! wrote on Jun 5, 2007 9:43 PM:

" People of lodi are the worst!!! they live in a one colored box and if you aint white you are wrong..sad sad:(!!! "

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Ken Dacus wrote on Jun 5, 2007 7:09 PM:

" How interesting the comments about a banner in front of a places of worship in the country that calls itself "the home of the free and the brave". Maybe the Sikh Temple should also have a flag pool for each state in the Union. "

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sam wrote on Jun 5, 2007 6:25 PM:

" REM, great blog anyway... and I loved Audi 5000's interpretation. "

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REM wrote on Jun 5, 2007 3:57 PM:

" To sam, dogbark and whoever caught me with egg on my face, I apologize. I apparently misspelled (ironic) on my word processor and ended up picking the wrong word. Anyway, I learned a new word (erotic). Thank you for pointing it out to me. "

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dogbark at REM 3:30pm wrote on Jun 5, 2007 1:48 PM:

" To quote from The Princess Bride "I don't think that word means what you think it means." Were you perhaps trying for 'ironic' or do you have a thing about flags? "

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Metric Time System wrote on Jun 5, 2007 11:58 AM:

" Dog, so what was G-Dub's mistake? Have you read what the man wrote about the founding of this country and what he thought the qualifications to be the US president should be? Political correctness doesn't define right and wrong. "

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dogbark at Geo Washington's pickle wrote on Jun 5, 2007 9:54 AM:

" The sketch Geo Washington made for the first US Flag had 6 point stars (Star of David) wouldn't that have put us in a pickle nowadays? The true story of Betsy Ross (she didn't make the first flag) was that she showed how ONE snip on folded cloth makes a 5 point star. No tracing and cutting. So see even Geo W. could make mistakes when it comes to flags. "

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Audi 5000 wrote on Jun 5, 2007 7:31 AM:

" To Sam: please don't correct REM, I think his post was accurate. "

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Audi 5000 wrote on Jun 5, 2007 7:29 AM:

" To Ash: because you are America Jr., you do have a lot more things to worry about. Like how the U.S. is going to protect you in times of trouble. If we weren't your neighbors, you'd be overrun by others a long time ago. Your land is only good for tundra and ice farms, and offering refuge to cowards and criminals from other countries. "

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sam wrote on Jun 4, 2007 5:08 PM:

" AJS, thanks for your service. AND I agree with your blog. "

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sam wrote on Jun 4, 2007 5:06 PM:

" REM, great blog and I agree with you.. But I think you mean IRONIC. (erotic means arousing or satisfying sexual desire) "

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sam wrote on Jun 4, 2007 5:00 PM:

" Happy Days, Great post. "

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AJS wrote on Jun 4, 2007 3:30 PM:

" I fought six years for this country to ensure that we're free to live in a non-totalitarian society. One where the flag is not our religion. Unfortunately, the freedom I defended also includes the freedom for Sarisky to make an idiot of himself in public. Shame on you for helping, News-Sentinel! More compassionate to let him wallow in it, without exposing his ignorance to the public. "

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REM wrote on Jun 4, 2007 3:30 PM:

" It is erotic that 95% of your patriotic flag wavers who flies the USA flag daily basis are violating The Flag Code of The United States -- Public Law 94-344, July 7, 1976. Meaning, you have no room to talk. You should look up the code, study it and follow it. If you are a Christian, first in order is: God, family and then your country. REM "

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firstfrenchempire1812 wrote on Jun 4, 2007 3:14 PM:

" What, how stupid. Sikhs are good peace loving people who unlike Muslims, prefer to live with people instead of destroying the "infidels" "

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Minnay Dhillon wrote on Jun 4, 2007 3:12 PM:

" A former Lodian, & a Sikh-American(that's right born and raised in the Ctrl Valley) I feel I need to justify my Religion. Seperation of church and state-does it really exist? Would the Gentleman who is "irked" view Sikhs any different if Old Glory was present at Lodi Sikh Temple? Could he eradicate the racial remarks/intolerance I experienced growing up? The Star Spangled Banner, means just as much to me as it does to him, the fact that the Flag is not flying at my place of worship does not make me any less of an American!! "

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dogbark at christian flag wrote on Jun 4, 2007 1:18 PM:

" the so called 'christian flag' actually developed out of a sunday school project. it was half a generation before anybody decided to fly the flag desing by the tykes. Hmmm. What uniform should you be in when you salute it and how do you salute it? "

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Happy Days wrote on Jun 4, 2007 12:16 PM:

" This proves that Lodidiots are alive, well, and thriving among us. Lodi: we're not as backwards as Arkansas, but we're catching up! "

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Ash wrote on Jun 3, 2007 3:41 PM:

" Thank God, I don't live in America. It's only the American flag, an American flag should never run higher than a religious flag of God. That's why I cannot stand America. I think I'm Canadian because ppl here worry about more important things than flying the Canadian flag. "

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param wrote on Jun 3, 2007 9:40 AM:

" oh yeah and another great website on Sikhism is www.projectnaad.com. If you have any questions on Sikhi please use the contact section on the website. "

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param UK wrote on Jun 3, 2007 2:19 AM:

" for information on Sikhism please visit: www.sikhnet.com "

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dogbark wrote on Jun 3, 2007 12:03 AM:

" After driving around and keeping a weather eye open for flags being flown in Lodi and Stockton, I have discovered the one thing Americans place higher than their flag. Brass balls. Yes sir, right there at the top of the pole. I suppose it may be a lightning rod. I haven't driving by the Sarisky's yet, but I assume they've got a lot of brass. "

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JM wrote on Jun 2, 2007 6:45 PM:

" Dear All; They are confused..feel all of us have done a great job of helping them understand the difference better between a religion and country. I would call upon Gurudwara committe to invite them, teach about Sikhs. Most important explain them how fortunate it is to have a gurudwara in Lodi, NJ, USA as it associates with our first Guru; Guru Nanak Dev Ji Sahib had lived most of his life at Sultanpur Lodi in Punjab, India. Dear Sarisky's and Regen; Remember God (WAHEGURU) comes first regardless. Even Baghdad has Gurudwara. "

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S&W 500 wrote on Jun 2, 2007 6:39 PM:

" solution: Rather than piss & moan about their banner, let's ban together & keep our eyes open for terrorists. Regardless of skin tone, ban together to report theft, drug use,and dirtbags to the local PD in OUR neighborhoods. The Sikh's seem to agree with quality values. So God Bless Them & their Temple. Let's go after the bad guys, OF ANY RACE! Time to CLEAN UP & CLEAR OUT AMERICA, so we can leave our homes to work, and not have to worry about them being broken into!! "

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Land of The Free wrote on Jun 2, 2007 6:28 PM:

" Well it seems that the majority agree. This was a stupid, ignorant article! "

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one guy wrote on Jun 2, 2007 5:50 PM:

" and then we ask why ppl around the world hate americans...its ppl like Sarisky who give birth to hate and terrorism...i dunno which god they trust in perhaps guns, oil and drugs ?? "

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Preethi wrote on Jun 2, 2007 11:31 AM:

" America is made up of different beliefs,religions, and different people thats what makes America. Isnt that what america stands for. "

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harry singh wrote on Jun 2, 2007 10:47 AM:

" That is only a religious symbol, not representing any country. "

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Jugjet Singh, Malaysia wrote on Jun 2, 2007 4:24 AM:

" UNO: The Sarisky's must start every morning by saying America Bless God. DOS: Terrorists do not errect flag-poles to pin-point their HQ. They lie low and mingle with locals, before causing untold misery. TRES: I urge Sikh's around the globe to pray tonight for God to implant some sense in the vacuum between the Sarisky's ears. "

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Jasjit S Dhanoa Continued. wrote on Jun 2, 2007 3:59 AM:

" Many churches dont fly flags, and there is no requirement to fly the flag at a house of worship. To a Sikh the Nishan Sahib is a symbol of peace and prosperity. The American flag is a symbol of America, i fly it at my house but find no need to fly it at a Gurudwara. In India you will not find an Indian flag at any Gurudwara. This is America, seperation of state and church. "

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Jasjit S Dhanoa wrote on Jun 2, 2007 3:59 AM:

" Im from Fresno, CA. I have a 40 foot flag pole flying the American Flag. I am a Sikh and i wear a turban, raised in California. One of my best friends is a Sikh in the Marines and is going to Iraq in a few months. The Sikh Nishan Sahib or flag as you ignorant folk like to call it, flys to provide a sense of security to by passers and as a marking point of a Sikh Gurudwara (House of God). "

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BobisurUncle wrote on Jun 2, 2007 1:08 AM:

" So much for the land of the free. It is not a national flag but a symbol of refuge for those in need. A sign that all are welcomed here. "

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American wrote on Jun 1, 2007 10:58 PM:

" Some people are just plain stupid. The Sikh's are good peaceful people. Leave them alone. "

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kuldeep wrote on Jun 1, 2007 9:56 PM:

" The Americans need to know that it represents a religious place, a gurdwara. It does not represent a country. The American flag represents a country. there is difference between a Sikh gurdwara and a country. it does not represent india. "

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Harj UK wrote on Jun 1, 2007 7:55 PM:

" everyone came to america from abroad at one time or another, therefore all of americas citizens are from immigrants.. its not a national flag,, and for all of those that think sikhs are expressing their love for india by raising this flag you are greatly mistaken... no race has suffered more under the indian government that the sikhs. im sure all american sikhs are proud of what they are... AMERICAN "

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Steve Rouse wrote on Jun 1, 2007 6:21 PM:

" If it's "American" to complain about temples who display religious symbols without the presence of an American flag, why isn't anyone upset about the many temples around Lodi which top their buildings with symbols of political torture (the Roman cross used to crucify political dissidents)? Ignorance is no excuse for intolerance or racism. "

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P Pannu wrote on Jun 1, 2007 5:59 PM:

" This "flag" is called Nishan Sahib, it denotes the highest authority over the universe and symbolizes god. It is a sign of temporal and spiritual power, and supersedes all other powers including America. American flag if placed at the site cannot be higher than this, that also can be considered as disrespect to America. Why don't we all grow up and be a livable place for all mankind without any prejudice/bias, and with full religious freedom. Before posting comments please learn about Sikhs and their contribution to man kind, and to what we really stand for. "

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Candian Sikh wrote on Jun 1, 2007 2:08 PM:

" As a Sikh, I don't see any problem with flying a American flag at the Gurudwara (temple). In fact i support it. However, i urge people to learn what Sikhism is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism The Khanda (not a spider) is a Sikh religious symbol is NOT a flag. http://www.sikh-studies.co.uk/khanda.htm Sikhs are tolerant and faithful people. Sikh are born warriors by nature. Sikh have fought along the British in both World Wars. http://www.firstworldwar.com/features/lionsofthegreatwar.htm Sikhs are not a threat to America. In fact they are the best thing to happen to Lodi. Be proud to call them your friends. "

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To: LNS Staff wrote on Jun 1, 2007 1:40 PM:

" Maybe LNS should have done their research before they came up with the title for this article. LNS, what does the American flag have to do with the flag that represents one's religion? So are the majority of Lodians also irked with the Mormon church, Muslim Mosque, and other churches too? This was an ignorant, not well thought out, written article. "

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Hari Singh Khalsa wrote on Jun 1, 2007 1:04 PM:

" When I read the title I was expecting the comments to agree with the Sariskys. Often times articles with prejudicial undertones against Sikhs are met with prejudicial comments. Here it is not the case. These comments make Lodi look like a place I'd like to visit (especially now that they have a Gurdwara). Lodi appears to be a place where the intolerant are a minority. Thank you for representing the values of the America I know and love in your comments. "

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kler oakley wrote on Jun 1, 2007 10:41 AM:

" need to learn other religion that black spider natiev lodian is symbol of religion like cross in the church and you dont even know the difference between sikh and the people got caught in lodi . open your vision look around your self .when you guy see some minority you guys always ask where you from if we where flag on our head would you stop saying that no but we never ask a white guy where you from because in america every body is immigrant . RESPECT AND BE RESPECTED . "

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Harjyot Singh, Canada wrote on Jun 1, 2007 9:18 AM:

" With the words "they can call it what they like" and insisting "it's a flag" already shows the mindset. The Sariskys have already made up their mind. And so have I, about them. I'm sure the Sariskys would have found another reason to complain if an American flag had been placed there already. Now that one is going up, they insist it must be higher. The Nishan Sahib is not a flag, it's a symbol. The Sarsikys can call it what they want. "

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Sir Edmond Haverhill wrote on Jun 1, 2007 7:38 AM:

" to: harj.Canada. I wouldn't hold Canada up as a good example of anything. Bad choice. "

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Ujjal Goraya wrote on Jun 1, 2007 7:26 AM:

" Storm in a tea cup but then again "while in Rome do as the Romans Do" why not flutter an American flag next to the Nishan Sahib,if it makes lots of people happy. "

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Harinder wrote on Jun 1, 2007 5:05 AM:

" I thought that in America Religion and politics were kept seperate. Also My impression of enduring symbol of USA is " statue of liberty " Has USA changed ? "

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Jay wrote on Jun 1, 2007 3:26 AM:

" The Sikh flag is placed outside every Sikh Temple and is supported by a pole of timber or metal. You may notice the Sikh symbol, and the Khanda on it. It is placed high up as a sign for all Sikhs and indeed all people that they nare welcome in this building. There is nothing wrong with it. Vancouver British Columbia Canada "

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Andy from UK wrote on Jun 1, 2007 2:20 AM:

" Sikhism: one of the main recognised religious symbols worldwide is the Nishan Sahib(yellow flagpole)which signifies the building as a Sikh place of worship. It is more a kin with resembling a lighthouse when seen from afar indicating a place of shelter, workship, sustenous freely. The Gurdwara (temple) is a charitable organisation giving monies to causes all over. I live in the UK where we have a massive history and dont expect to salute the Union Jack every five minutes or have it shoved down our throat. The UK is strong in its heritage. Get educated mate start travelling outside USA. "

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UKboy wrote on Jun 1, 2007 2:04 AM:

" Sikhism: the temple is represented by a Nishan Sahib(yellow flagpole)all over the world which is more a kin with a lighthouse icon indicating to worshippers that they can seek wisdom, shelter, sustenous freely. The Gurdwara (temple) is a charitable organisation which donates monies to many non Sikh causes around they world even Christian! I am British and represent a massive history and we have no complex with other religions worshipping freely and do not fear that any flag will supersede the Union Jack because its not on show and saluted every five minutes. Get educated mate. "

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Prabhu Singh wrote on May 31, 2007 10:27 PM:

" This article is filled with biased information about Sikhs and so is about.com Sikhs are very peaceful people and have sacrificed their lives time and again for the protection of others. "

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Prabhu Singh wrote on May 31, 2007 10:26 PM:

" As an American I'm very offended at the remarks of some of the people in Lodi. I'm a Sikh of western descent, and I have a lineage going back to the Mayflower. Still compared to the Native Americans I live amongst (in New Mexico) my family are immigrants as well. They don't ask me to fly their flag or go back to Europe. Why is it that Americans who are neither white nor black (such as most Sikhs of Indian descent, or Asians in general) are always assumed to be from somewhere else? "

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PROUD2BSIKH wrote on May 31, 2007 10:07 PM:

" The flag that is displayed is a RELIGOUS flag!!!!! What do the Sarkisky's and Regan not understand? Just because we Sikhs choose to believe in our religion, and they don't we shouldn't be penalized and hated. Grow up people!!!! And please do good with your time, I'm sure America can use your help in your time being better spent! Maybe spend some time going to the library and reading up on other cultures, as well as where you came from, because I highly doubt that your ancestors were born in America. "

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Sam wrote on May 31, 2007 10:00 PM:

" One Sikh family delivered $50,000 dollars new jackets to shelters in your county where was Tv station and your news paper ,Was that un American Tell that to those churches and shalters there were people in tears when they saw new clothes delivered by some one who was not from same religion "

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PROUD2BSIKH wrote on May 31, 2007 9:58 PM:

" (con't) because I can think of about 100 other things that they can do with their time. Such as organize a food drive for the hungry, collect money/packages to send to our troops over seas, collect and donate money to a local foster home, and the list can go on and on. And, last erect a flagpole in front of their yard displaying the American flag. Personally I don't think that the Gurdwara(Sikh Temple) should erect the American flag. There is no need. "

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John wrote on May 31, 2007 9:57 PM:

" I wounder, in india they deiscriminate christains burning churchs,killing 1000s of missionaries.. but here they think jus to keep a country flag where they got better life .. "

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PROUD2BSIKH wrote on May 31, 2007 9:55 PM:

" These ignorant people who are ranting about a religious symbol need to get an education. First off America does NOT belong to "white" people. If you call stealing to me moral maybe so. This country was forcefully stolen from other groups of people. Which if stealing is okay then we all should be allowed to do it w/out consequences. Gerry and Robin Sarisky and Dennis Regan must have something better to do with their time rather than worry about this. "

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Jack Sparrow wrote on May 31, 2007 9:00 PM:

" The last I knew we have a fredom of religon here in this country,So whats the beef... Jim Fox I don't respond to TROLLS most of the time but for you I will...The next time you want to torch a flag wrap your self in it first... "

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Amy wrote on May 31, 2007 8:39 PM:

" I just wanted to say that I was very proud to read all of the comments that have been posted in favor of tolerance in our community. This city may have more than it's share of bigots; but as long as good people with open minds continue to speak up, I think we might all still have a chance! "

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ra wrote on May 31, 2007 7:45 PM:

" I find the Sikhs to be grateful to live in peace in the United States and very patriotic. I took notice of the American flags on the residence in their compound long before their temple was constructed. Do NOT confuse these folks with extremist muslims. In fact muslims have terrorized Sikhs as much if not more than those of other faiths. Check the newswires about muslim hate crimes against Sikhs in this country. Leave these folks alone! "

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Jominder Malaysia wrote on May 31, 2007 7:34 PM:

" cont... We belong to the one single race , THE HUMAN RACE ' in our Holy Guru Granth Sahib Ji ( The holy scriptures of the SIKHS )Guru Ji says " the color of our blood is red it is only the color of our skin that misleads " May the Sarisky's find peace and love from their Sikh neighbours and May the Good Lord Bless them in all their endeavours, AMEN to the SARISKYS and love to all the good people of LODI "

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Jominder from Malaysia wrote on May 31, 2007 7:26 PM:

" AMERICAN MADE wrote " We always say "God Bless America", we always ask for God's Blessing but then why do we want Old Glory above the Symbol of God? " Very apt, we Sikhs are loving people.Our tenth Guru, Guru Gobind Singh has enshrined that " MY SIKH WILL RISE TO THE OCCASION " Sikhs will rise to any occasion when the need arises and they are always loyal to their adopted country that they call home " I can assure that they are more loyal to USA than India . "

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rani wrote on May 31, 2007 7:14 PM:

" Our holy book has written contributions included in it from many faiths, one of the things it also includes is the need to respect all religions and never see one as better or worse than your own. Rant over. "

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rani wrote on May 31, 2007 7:13 PM:

" The Sikh Temple or Gurudwara is a community facility, which encourages all communities to visit whatever their faith/belief systems. For those who may not know, Sikhism is based on the basic yet fundamental precept of community service. The model upon which all gurudwaras are based demands that Sikhs foster community spirit, defend those who are unable to defend themselves and the sharing of what you have. This includes the community kitchen (langar) which is open to all people to sit and share a meal with other people.Sikhs also donate a tenth of their annual income to charitable causes. "

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rani wrote on May 31, 2007 7:11 PM:

" As a seasoned traveller, when I am abroad (I am a British born Sikh and proud)in the US, Asia, Europe that 'scary' flag is the one thing I look for, as to me it represents my faith and temporary home/sanctuary. If I see that I feel a sense of community and belonging. One of the biggest issues here in the UK around terrorist activities is that dissaffected people are targetted into terror 'cells' and then become engaged in the atrocities that have occurred since 9/11. "

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rani wrote on May 31, 2007 7:10 PM:

" lets not be stupid here, the rantings that I have read here and elsewhere, have racist undertones, 9/11 was a catalyst and perhaps it gave the far-right a chance to up the ante and increase their membership base. I dont know which is worst the racists that are upfront or those who hide behind lame ideas such as the one above. oh and the person who sees spiders when he looks at the sikh flag and thinks it scary..grow up, get a life and get some spectacles! "

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rani wrote on May 31, 2007 7:07 PM:

" it never fails to amaze me that a seemingly educated group of people can only see beyond their own faith and reasoning and seem completely unable to grasp that people of other faiths/nationalities can readily and willingly accept the country that they live in as their own, but still have the freedom and right to exercise their right to express their faith.. does the american constitutionit not contain freedom of expression in there somewhere..Or does the version Sarisky subscribe to include the caveat 'but only if you fly the flag of America first..' "

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harj.Canada wrote on May 31, 2007 7:01 PM:

" I beleive that sarisky's need to see the world with open eyes. In canada everyone respect the sikh's. No comments on the sikh flag from the multi-cultural citizens of canada. "

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a Mayflower descendant wrote on May 31, 2007 6:41 PM:

" I've learned about many different religions over the years, and the Sikh religion is probably the closest of all to the ideals of the Founding Fathers. They have practiced values from the founding of their religion that are the highest ideals of the USA, which our government has practiced far less consistently. So, Sikhs are a good thing for America, and we all should welcome them. And... we are FIRST children of the Creator who endowed in us certain inalienable rights, as mentioned in the Declaration of Independence before there was a USA. "

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GS Mangat wrote on May 31, 2007 5:55 PM:

" To Mr. Samra Don't let ignorant person like Sarisky to run your affairs. Leave the religious symbol fly high or unless Sarisky can make every place of worship in Lodi to fly an American flags. "

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stradlater wrote on May 31, 2007 5:32 PM:

" How many of Lodi's innumerable churches fly the American flag outside their building? I bet you couldn't count them on one hand. And I'm willing to bet that NONE of them fly the flag on their steeple. And yet the Sariskys expect the Sikhs to basically do just that, and "make a greater effort to embrace American ideals and display the American flag." "

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sam wrote on May 31, 2007 4:36 PM:

" AUDI 5000, I know you were kidding, but slow down. My nephew was killed by a SUV speeding down West Lane... running the light at Armstrong. And a few years later my daughter was in a serious accident at the same intersection... another speeder on West Lane running the light. The Sikhs are great neighbors. Slow down and enjoy the view. "

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leonard wrote on May 31, 2007 3:24 PM:

" Ah.... I see the compensator is here. "

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GrapeNut wrote on May 31, 2007 2:53 PM:

" Quote: "Sarisky said that Sikhs should make a greater effort to embrace American ideals and display the American flag." I could go on for hours about the ignorance in that one statement. CW is right, this was a non-story. Is the LNS that hard up for local material? "

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Audi 5000 wrote on May 31, 2007 1:49 PM:

" I suggest those who are offended should drive a little faster past Sikhville so you don't prolong your agony. I'm usually clocking 80+ mph past there in my HUGE SUV, sweet ride I must say! "

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Salvador Ibanez wrote on May 31, 2007 9:21 AM:

" If something is made of cloth and flapping from a flag pole, it is a flag, whether a religious flag, or a white rag of surrender. So the only question is what is the correct protocol in the United States when any flag is being flown. Come back with the correct answer and you could have avoided all these rantings for and against. "

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Jessie Bains wrote on May 31, 2007 9:02 AM:

" wow, America has truly become a Christian police state. "

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Patriot wrote on May 31, 2007 8:53 AM:

" Who is more Patriotic? A. One who flies a flag B. One who fights for his country in another land C. One who pays taxes. Answer: None or All of the above. Its just different expressions of patriotism. Sikhs might not have a flag in their place of worship but they can express their individual patriotism any way they like. No one can tell another how to do so. You can fly a flag but still compromise our nations integrity by misrepresenting its values and undermining the constitution like those Sariskys. "

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valleynative wrote on May 31, 2007 8:44 AM:

" i guess this is why they say racist people are ignorant. did they not go to school? the sikhs have been here longer than most of the other groups of people who have come here, including my own ancestors. does anyone else remember how the germans were first treated in the 1700's or the irish in the 1800's? if we are going to require them to fly an american flag, then every "christian" church better do the same. i'm sure these idiots probably think they are christian, but don't follow the basic principles "

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OTH wrote on May 31, 2007 8:16 AM:

" SAM.......It's either the water or maybe the train horns! "

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Outraged wrote on May 31, 2007 8:03 AM:

" TO "GOOD GRIEF": Sarcasm from Greek σαρκασμός (sarkasmos), 'mockery, sarcasm' is sneering, jesting, or mocking at a person, situation or thing. It is strongly associated with irony, with some definitions classifying it as a type of verbal irony intended to insult or wound[1] — stating the opposite of the intended meaning, ect. Sorry to offend you, "Good Grief". It's called sarcasm. Get a clue. And the "Heil Sarisky" comment, they sound like intolerant narrow-minded Nazi's, I just wanted to greet them in their native tongue. "

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Leonard wrote on May 31, 2007 6:47 AM:

" I have contacted Ross Farrow and Marty Weybret by email and urged them to print a retraction. I urge others to do likewise. Their addresses are: rossf@lodinews.com and martw@lodinews.com We owe it to our neighbors to try to make Lodi a better place for everyone to enjoy the Freedoms of our Nation. "

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Peace wrote on May 31, 2007 6:45 AM:

" Come on now everybody is entitled to their opinion, BIGONS and leave it at that. "

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Leonard wrote on May 31, 2007 6:45 AM:

" This article has a definite agenda. The discussion here is far from academic given the many acts of violence that have been committed against Sikhs since 9/11 by racist idiots too stupid to even accurately target their hate crimes. One incident, which occurred in the Bay Area involved a Molotov Cocktail which was thrown through a Sikh man's front window. The bomb (which fortunately did not detonate) hit his toddler son on the head and put him in the hospital. "

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Pete UK wrote on May 31, 2007 2:53 AM:

" Sorry Amy, my mistake. Native Lodian is the arachnophobe. "

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Pete UK wrote on May 31, 2007 2:35 AM:

" Amy must have seen some odd-looking spiders. The article clearly explained what the symbol represents. "

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Parle wrote on May 31, 2007 2:03 AM:

" Ignorance, this article is riddled with it. The "flag " is not the symbol of a nation or claim to a land, it is a symbol of the Sikh faith. A point to note, the first doctor on the ground on 9/11 WTC attacks was a Sikh. Sikhs are part of America and have been since the 1700's. I'm glad to see people speaking out about this. "

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Wondering: wrote on May 31, 2007 12:56 AM:

" Does the government help subsidize the cost for building these types of institutions? If so, then let them pay for their own churches completely and the government can use THAT money to get the homeless off MY street! "

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chiller wrote on May 31, 2007 12:54 AM:

" We cannot change people's biases. if they want to see something in some way they will find hundred reasons to do so. did someone say the symbol looks like a Spider? well in that case the christian cross seems like a pair of scissors too? save your imagination for better purposes than to feed your biases. Also in America you dont have to prove your patriotism because a a neighbor like Sarisky wants you to. What if i accuse Sarisky of harrassing American citizen neighbours and hence being unamerican herself/himself? God Bless America and give better sense to Sariskys. "

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Red Horse wrote on May 30, 2007 11:50 PM:

" Remember when the British took over India? They forced them to put up the British flag, in their own country of India. If the Sikhs are forced to put up the flag, it only proves Sarisky was able to exercise some power over them. It doesn't change who they already are, or whatever punjabi and american things they believe in. Sarisky,which sounds Polish or Russian, could put up a Punjabi flag under his U.S. flag as an act of tolerence, understanding, and acceptance. "

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drew wrote on May 30, 2007 10:39 PM:

" hey gerry im an american and proud of it i even have old glory tattooed on my leg does that make me more american no im not a sikh but before you get the news and yourself involved in something do your freakin homework and learn about the religion before knockin it trust me i know alot of sikhs most of them from india and they are proud to call americia home THINK BEFORE YOU ACT this just makes you look prejudice "

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Pam wrote on May 30, 2007 10:39 PM:

" I was so disgusted by this news story, that I had to comment. What an bunch of ignoramuses ...reporters included. Why would channel 13 even give this air time?! Since when are churches, or ANY private buildings in this country, required to post the American flag? And then to give the whole story credence by showing that the "dangerous heathens" showed respect after all, by preparing to put a BIG U.S. flag up. Where the hell IS this, Nazi Germany? This sure explains Iraq. Ignorant and irresponsible reporting that feeds and justifies ignorant irresponsible behaviors. "

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disgusted wrote on May 30, 2007 10:32 PM:

" Outraged & Native Lodian- wow. get some education! The Sikhs are are a VERY tolerant religion & have no associations with anything related to terrorism. The Khanda (not a spider) repersents truth & loyalty to God. HOW UN-AMERICAN. My stomach is churning, but not because I see a potential threat from those of different creeds, but because of the stupidity of the people that share the same creed as I. "

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Kulhwch wrote on May 30, 2007 10:23 PM:

" I saw the Sariskys on television, on channel 13 just a few minutes ago, and as soon as they opened their mouths all I could thing was "fascists." To demand that others have to do as they do, on their own property, is a clearly unamerican as far as I can see. Tolerance and freedom are what we're about here, the Sariskys and other fascists of their ilk want to bully their beliefs off on others. How sad that some people wear such hatred under such a thin plating of patriotism. "

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CW wrote on May 30, 2007 10:18 PM:

" Sarisky rushed to judgement before fiding out what the flag stood for and LNS ran with a NON Story. "

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dogbark wrote on May 30, 2007 8:05 PM:

" I am not sure these Sikhs understand how and where to build a temple. Shouldn't they have found some prime public access land, such as the north shore of the Mokelumne and built there, then put up a bunch of keep-out no-trespassing no-river-access signs? Isn't that stewardship of the land? If anybody questioned they could say "oh we would love to continue to allow the public to access the river, but our lawyers and insurance agents say we can't." Or maybe build alongside 99 freeway, then the trees mysteriously die so passing autos see the magnificence of the temple? "

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82 Alliance wrote on May 30, 2007 7:58 PM:

" LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

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S&W 500 wrote on May 30, 2007 7:37 PM:

" Unless I am getting senile, it was a rectangular flag several months ago. Regardless, OUR Country, The U.S.A. is turning into a cesspool of immigrants who take advantage of us. The Sikh's state they are law abiding & anti-terrorist! That is great, hopefully they are tax paying as well. I trust them a lot more than I do muslims! Pay you own dues, or get outta my country: regardless of race!!!!! Yes, even if you are white!!!! "

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mark wrote on May 30, 2007 7:26 PM:

" If you come her for freedom you should fly an american flag. If you love your country so much and want to fly its flag go back!! "

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sam wrote on May 30, 2007 6:25 PM:

" Now we are afraid of reigious symbols? It must be the water. "

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valleynative wrote on May 30, 2007 5:11 PM:

" whenever i tell someone from out of lodi, that i'm from lodi, they always shake their head. lodi is known for being a kkk, hate everyone but whites kind of town. the fact that the lodi news gives people like the sarisky's a platform for their ignorance, it just reiterates the stereotypes of lodi. i know not everyone is racist in this town, but people have to make a stand and make sure that the local "news" is held accountable. "

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Peace and Goodwill To All wrote on May 30, 2007 3:55 PM:

" This article smacks of racism and religious intolerance. It's not a national flag so who cares?! besides it's their own property. why do we think we have the right to tell everyone else what to believe in - let them practise their faith - surely we have some freedoms in this country. "

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Weezer wrote on May 30, 2007 3:36 PM:

" For all we know, there's an American Sikh in Iraq right now that's fighting FOR the US. "

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dogbark wrote on May 30, 2007 3:26 PM:

" Canuck has a good point. The Sikhs have a long history of military service to the governments of the countries in which they live. Also what is one thing you can do at a Sikh Temple that you can't do at a Morman Temple or many other Christian churches? As a non-member you can go inside and join in prayer. Sikhs by tradition are very tolerant of all other religions. "

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Amy wrote on May 30, 2007 2:57 PM:

" "A flag that has a large black symbol resembling a black spider does not sit well with me." wow... I truley feel sad, how can you reason with people who say and BELIEVE things like this? "

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Lee Glizett wrote on May 30, 2007 2:32 PM:

" I just took a drive through my neighborhood and found 4 Christian churches without any American flags flying. In fact, I did not see any church at all that does fly an American flag. A church with a school on the same property did have an American flag flying from the monument with the name of the school. We have a constitutional separation of church & state. "Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's." No national flag is customary at a place of worship. "

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Jeff wrote on May 30, 2007 2:11 PM:

" To Good Grief, re:Outraged. It's called sarcasm. Look it up. "

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Canuck wrote on May 30, 2007 1:39 PM:

" cont... If you actually read the definition on the about.com, it is not like the one in the article at all. The writer did a nice job of twisting the words around just enough to give off the impression that the Sikh symbol stands for power, authority and intolerance. If you want to drag your own name through the mud by doing things like this, that you’re prerogative, keep sites that have no affiliation with your organization out of it. Stop misquoting credible websites please. Here the link on about.com, you be the judge: http://altreligion.about.com/library/glossary/bldefkhanda.htm?terms=khanda "

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Canuck wrote on May 30, 2007 1:38 PM:

" I would just like to express my disappointment in the definition of 'Khanda' as stated in this article. While reading the article, it was clear to me that the writer was trying to portray his negative personal feelings about this holy symbol. I urge intelligent readers to re-read his definition. It is obvious that he is trying to portray the Sikh religion as violent/intolerant. What makes it worse is that he ends it with “,according to about.com”. "

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dogbark wrote on May 30, 2007 1:33 PM:

" "In our church we have the U.S. flag and the Christian flag in full view every single service, along with the Cross" I tried to look up which of these three any of the three of the Christian Trinity would have requested. Dang if I didn't find this: ''Render unto Casar that which is Casar's, and render unto the Lord that which is the Lord. '' I haven't been to Church in ages, but maybe I'll go visit when they hold the excommunication hearings for Robin saying "..an American first, everything falls under that.." "

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American Made wrote on May 30, 2007 1:26 PM:

" The Sikh "flag" serves the purpose of leading Sikhs to the Temple (it identifies that this a Sikh Temple), like the Christian Cross on the front of a Church. It simply is a sign the shows that this is a house of God. Shouldn't the Symbol of God be higher than a country's flag? We always say "God Bless America", we always ask for God's Blessing but then why do we want Old Glory above the Symbol of God? "

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Beezy wrote on May 30, 2007 1:04 PM:

" I say if it's not on your property don't worry about it. If it is take it down. Everyone needs to stop trying to act like they run the world and can tell everybody what to do. You need to focus more on your life and your own families. Do you know where your kids are at? "

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sad sarisky wrote on May 30, 2007 12:20 PM:

" "It sure looks like a flag, and they have it on a great big colorful flag pole," Sarisky said. "They can call it whatever they want." THIS THE PROBLEM WHY ASK IF YOU DONT BELIEVE WHAT THEY ARE TELLING YOU. DO THE RESEARCH I CANT BELIEVE LODI NEWS TO MAKE THEIS A ARTICLE. go talk to the meth addicts on the street make that a article, on why they break in businesses 100 plus busi. amonth not all reported "

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to Native Lodian wrote on May 30, 2007 12:16 PM:

" You sad ignorant typical lodian. These are not muslims they dont believe in same ideals. They are puting up there cross. There sign of there faith. I dont see why they have to proof there american. There in america. You want to show pride then respect others. "

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Drudge wrote on May 30, 2007 11:24 AM:

" Seems to me that it's their property, and they can fly whatever they want. Should we be surprised at the ignorance of some people? Nah, it's Lodi. I expect it. "

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F.D.A.M. wrote on May 30, 2007 10:37 AM:

" Just in case you do not know. Per the flag code The only place a a US flag is required to be flown is at federal institutions,including public schools. It does not require a private citizen to fly only the US flag. If you want to call the Sikhs' religous banner a flag then do so, however you have no law or code that supports you position. Put your energy into something useful! "

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Good Grief! wrote on May 30, 2007 10:37 AM:

" In our church we have the U.S. flag and the Christian flag in full view every single service, along with the Cross. To Outraged: You are so deceived. Your god may be the government and money, but both will fail you. And I would highly suspect that you are a "skinhead" with Aryan Nation beliefs, or a white supremicist if you use the word "heil" in a statement. God have mercy on your soul. "

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Scary wrote on May 30, 2007 10:09 AM:

" Ajax said it beautifully. Listen to yourselves. How un-American are these statements. I am absolutely ASHAMED to say my daughter attends the same school as the Sarisky's. Please keep the school out of it. "

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Leonard wrote on May 30, 2007 10:09 AM:

" I wonder what other racist sentiments the LNS will see fit to run articles on. "

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Leonard wrote on May 30, 2007 10:08 AM:

" Ajax; Very well put. I share your sentiment. I know a number of Sikhs, some who are newcomers to America and some whose families have enjoyed American citizenship for generations and, in my experience, they are a very patriotic people. One of my Sikh friends brother had to spend two years in physical therapy after he was wounded when his unit got hit by a roadside bomb in Iraq. "

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Tolerance wrote on May 30, 2007 10:07 AM:

" Give it a break already. One of the things that makes this country strong is our belief in religious freedom. This is a church we're talking about not a government office. I agree with Bill Pfeiffle (a fellow vet), this isn't a problem. I believe the Sariskys' energy is much better spent looking into real issues that confront us. The Sikh temple nor the lack of an American Flag on their property does not make the top 100 challenges of our city. Be disappointed or make your case for something that really matters. "

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Question wrote on May 30, 2007 10:03 AM:

" How many churches in Lodi fly the American flag? "

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Joe Silva, Sr. wrote on May 30, 2007 9:59 AM:

" What kind of person takes the time to get ticked off about something like this? I have yet to understand how unhappy people try to make others unhappy. It's ok to be bitter and full of hate all by yourself comrade. Leave the rest of us alone! "

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Whoa Nellie! wrote on May 30, 2007 9:56 AM:

" WEEZER, you are correct! All wars are fought over three things: religion, land, and water. This is why NorCal needs to break off from SoCal and stop shipping all of our liquid gold to LA & the OC!! Water is life! "

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WTF wrote on May 30, 2007 9:55 AM:

" So it is a banner pole.... Could you imagine how many flags would have to be flown on all the banner poles that car dealerships and home builders use for ADVERTISING. You people complaining should focus this energy on the horrid displays of the American flag in your own neighborhoods and ast the local businesses. "

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Jim Fox wrote on May 30, 2007 9:23 AM:

" I have burned American flags, and I will do it again this summer. Our founders fought for two years without a national flag, because they were fighting for something more important than a symbol. In fact their first flag was the Queen Anne flag desecrated (in the British view) by white stripes painted across it. Our founders would be appalled by comments such as those made by the Sariskys. Note: Mr. Fox's article 'Finding a Flag' was chosen as the 9-11 remembrance article for the S J Business Journal. He teaches flag retirement ettiquette to youth flag teams. "

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Native Lodian wrote on May 30, 2007 8:58 AM:

" You know when you have that gut feeling that wont go away, well that is what i have and its not a good feeling. A flag that has a large black symbol resembling a black spider does not sit well with me. I think home land security needs to keep their eyes open. Remember we have terrorists in Lodi. Its not right. Mark my words something will happen and no one will have listened "

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Knuckleheads wrote on May 30, 2007 8:47 AM:

" I agree with Amy and Lodiyng! You people are ignorant! People that have different religious beliefs and that are African American, American, Asian, Hispanic, and others are fighting for this country and dying every day for our freedom. So who cares what flag they are flying at a church. I just thank god every day for my freedom and also thank the soldiers who are putting their lives on the line for the RED WHITE and BLUE. "

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Weezer wrote on May 30, 2007 8:18 AM:

" It's no wonder that all wars have religious undertones because there's lack of tolerance on one or both sides. So sad. "

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Ajax wrote on May 30, 2007 8:14 AM:

" This constant need for loyalty tests and proof of loyalty is contrary to the ideals of America. Especially, when the assertion is that dark-skinned people don't have the rights to profess thier faith without some sort of US flag waiving to quell those very few people that are threatened. I'm an Army vet. My wife is a Army vet and none of that makes my opinion on this matter more important but please understand that it does seem ironic that the assertion of service to secure freedom now is insulted without political homage. "

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lodiyng wrote on May 30, 2007 7:57 AM:

" probably that guy who fisrt complained about the "flag" should have found out what it actually meant first then going off and complaining about it....people are bickering about the smallest things....I just love lodi!! "

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show your american pride, if you have any wrote on May 30, 2007 7:46 AM:

" all the public sees is a brand new church flying a foreign flag in a spot that use to sell firewood to this community for many years. perhaps it would not be a bad idea for them to erect another, higher flagpole and fly Old Glory, giving proper respect to this country that has enabled them to live free, thrive and build this temple. judging from the look of that place, i'm sure they can afford it. "

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Outraged (cont) wrote on May 30, 2007 7:41 AM:

" We need to send a message to these foreigners. Only then will they recognize that the way they worship is bad because only "American" customs are pure and holy. Heil Sarisky "

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Outraged wrote on May 30, 2007 7:41 AM:

" I'm with Gerry Sarisky and Robin Sarisky. I am also against organized religion of any sort. I feel that they should tear down all the crosses, bell towers, and spires at all the other churches too. It is absolutely ridiculous to see that there is no American flag there. People need to learn that religion is not about peace and worship but about patriotism the realization that money and the U.S. Government is our one true god. Lodi has gotten way too tolerant. "

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Amy wrote on May 30, 2007 7:30 AM:

" Lodi is so livable and lovable, that any time a "group" (which has been a part of this community since the early 1900's) does something that ignorant citizens (i.e. The Sarisky's) perceive to be alien from what they believe in they are attacked. "It's not like they're hanging the Indian flag there," said professor Tezcan. "The Sikhs aren't representing a nation. It is an unfortunate controversy, as far as I can tell." "

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