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Delta pays $533,000 to consultant

College's expenditures toward acquiring land getting mixed reactions

By Chris Nichols
News-Sentinel Staff Writer
Updated: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 6:58 AM PDT

San Joaquin Delta College has paid nearly $533,000 to a Pasadena-based consultant to help the college acquire land for future satellite campuses in Lodi, Galt and the foothills.

More than $423,000 alone has been paid to David Rodriguez and his firm, Public Private Ventures, Inc., for work securing the Victor Road site just east of Lodi, according to documents obtained by the News-Sentinel.

The size and terms of Rodriguez' contracts with Delta — including a $19,500 expense account for his work in Lodi — have caused some to question whether the college overpaid for the consultant's services.

"I don't think we're getting a heck of a lot of bang for our buck," said Delta Trustee Ted Simas, who represents Manteca and has been outspoken about the college's handling of its $250 million bond.

Those funds were approved in March 2004 by voters in the San Joaquin district.

Critics have questioned the performance of PPV, wondering whether the firm got the best price for the Lodi campus site.

Some have asked whether Delta could have paid less for a local firm, one that was more familiar with the valley and its real estate market.

Others, however, have defended the college and its consultant. They maintain that acquiring land for a future campus is a complex process — one that demands the hiring of outside experts, no matter the cost.

Rodriguez and Lodi's land deal

David Rodriguez has served as lead consultant for Delta's land deals for the past two years. His firm was hired in July 2005.

Rodriguez holds a master of business administration degree in real estate finance and is one of several principals at PPV — which is currently working to gain land for 10 new community college campuses throughout the state.

His contracts with Delta show he could earn a up to $605,000 for his work in Lodi, Galt and the foothills. He's also eligible to collect up to $30,250 in travel, printing and postage expenses.

Rodriguez did not respond to several calls for comment on this story over the past week.

He has, however, been the key figure in acquiring a controversial 119-acre parcel for Lodi's future campus, off Victor Road.

As recently as last summer, Rodriguez told the Delta board of trustees that the college would need only $1 million to acquire the Lodi site, according to Simas.

Under such a deal, a private developer would cover all additional purchase costs, plus pay for the needed road, water and sewer improvements.

A developer never emerged, and the college now expects to pay approximately $15 million to buy the land and build the off-site improvements.

"That's one reason I'm not real thrilled," said Simas, who has strongly opposed building a campus at the Victor Road site from the beginning.

Simas is not the only one disappointed in Delta's recent land deals and PPV's assistance.

Given that Delta has yet to build a single new classroom with its bond money, many have begun to question the college and the performance of its consultants.

Delta plans to bring a set of portable classrooms to the Lodi site by 2010.

"The college has spent a lot of money on consultants. I think it's been a big concern," said Karen Munro, who lives near the proposed Lodi campus and ran unsuccessfully for a seat on Delta's board of trustees last fall.

"People in Stockton and Lodi have commented about how much they paid for the (Victor Road) land and why would someone from Los Angeles be asked to come up and give advice on where and how much they should spend on land."

Biography of David Rodriguez, principal at Public Private Ventures, Inc.
• Lead consultant in charge of acquiring land for San Joaquin Delta College's new campuses in Lodi, Galt and the foothills.
• Holds an MBA in Real Estate Finance and Urban Land Economics from the University of Southern California.
• Has a Bachelor of Science in Architecture from New York Institute of Technology.
• Licensed Real Estate Broker, State of California.
• Consultant for San Joaquin, Gavilan and Palomar community college districts.

Numerous residents who live near the Victor Road site have opposed Delta's plans, citing concerns that a college will draw further development and pave over the area's rich farmland.

Opposition from one property owner in particular — Jerry Ferdun — has prevented the college from securing a 4-acre property right in the middle of the campus site.

For several months, Delta President Raul Rodriguez, who is not related to David Rodriguez, maintained the college had an option to buy the Ferdun property through a third party.

David Rodriguez even wrote the college a memo stating the third party had "secured" the option.

But this spring Ferdun vehemently denied that he's ever agreed to sell his land to the college or any other party. As it stands now, the college does not have any right to the 4-acre parcel — essentially an island in the middle of the campus — despite an earlier $1.4 million offer to buy it.

Defending expensive expertise

Despite the criticisms, Delta College administrators have defended their decision to hire David Rodriguez and PPV.

The firm has secured a purchase agreement for the Lodi land, as well as for sites in Galt and Valley Springs — though the latter may be dropped due to cost overruns at Delta's Mountain House campus, where Rodriguez has not worked.

Construction estimates at Mountain House, northwest of Tracy, have skyrocketed to $95 million, more than $30 million higher than initially thought.

Without hesitation, Andy Dunn, Delta's vice president of business services, said PPV has done a good job.

"I'm pleased with their performance," Dunn said.

Not having the 4-acre Ferdun property at the Lodi site is "not a consequential difference," he said, noting the college will plan the campus around Ferdun's land.

Dunn said the cost of the Lodi campus site may have been higher than some nearby. But that's because it's been earmarked by the city of Lodi for annexation, he said.

Such land is more valuable because it will receive city services like police and fire and water and sewer.

Dunn said the college scrutinized the purchase agreement for the Lodi land and, in the end, decided "it was in the best interest of the college to go ahead."

He said the college considered very closely the fact that PPV is not a local company, and realized the firm would need to make contacts and learn the area.

"But, this firm has worked — and successfully, I might add — with a number of community college districts around the state," Dunn said. "They came well recommended."

A Southern California critic

Listed on PPV's Web site is David Rodriguez' experience with Palomar Community College District, along with several other groups, though not Delta College.

Nancy Chadwick, a Palomar College trustee, said Rodriguez' work at her college is incomplete, at best.

The consultant has secured land for one of Palomar's two future campuses. But Chadwick said Rodriguez still hasn't come up with a suitable site for the other — in Poway, a San Diego suburb — despite several years of work.

"I've been very disappointed," she said. "They haven't come up with anything. We've had so many false starts. We keep reducing our requirements (for the Poway site)."

Chadwick said Rodriguez has suggested sites that were later found to be too close to or include conservation districts or wetlands or simply weren't suitable.

"I thought we had been given less than all the information (about the land)," she said.

Michele Nelson, another Palomar trustee, confirmed the college has contracted with Rodriguez for several years and had trouble securing the Poway site. She declined, however, to comment about his performance.

More than just surveying land

Lodi Mayor Bob Johnson, a strong supporter of the Lodi campus plans, said hiring an expert like Rodriguez to work for the college was a good move.

He and others noted that such work includes more than just surveying the local real estate market. Negotiating with property owners, drawing up contracts, and working with a bevy of state and local government agencies to make sure the site meets environmental clearances are also part of the job.

"There are people who specialize in different types of (land) acquisitions," Johnson said. "I don't know that you would necessarily call up 'Sally Jones' who sells single family houses and ask her to (acquire the Delta campus site)."

Johnson said he couldn't comment about whether Rodriguez' contract was a fair one or not.

"I'm going to assume that the Delta board of trustees thought that the price was reasonable," he said.

If David Rodriguez was simply locating sites for the college but nothing else, then his compensation might be a bit high, said one area assistant real estate professor.

"He's doing the work of a real estate developer," said Thomas Davidoff, who teaches at the Haas School of Business at the University of California at Berkeley. "Maybe they could have done better. But (PPV's compensation) doesn't rub me terribly wrong."

"I would think someone local could have done it. But I've heard of worse graft on a deal than someone in Southern California getting $400,000," Davidoff added.

Spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on a consultant made Laura Perry take notice. The trustee for the Gavilan Joint Community College District in Gilroy — which also employs Rodriguez — said she initially was skeptical of the move.

She noted, however, she doesn't think the college could have secured its Coyote Valley or Hollister campus sites without PPV.

"In general, I just don't like the idea of consultants," said Perry, a family law attorney based in Morgan Hill, noting she'd rather have the college's staff do the work if possible. "But so much of it is just out of our area of expertise."

Perry said she did not know Rodriguez' exact contract with Gavilan, but noted that the college paid for him and several trustees to fly to the Midwest to tour housing projects at Michigan State University and the University of Notre Dame.

She said the trip, and resulting help in designing housing projects for Gavilan, was well worth the money.

Too soon to judge

Not everyone on the Delta board of trustees feels Rodriguez should be evaluated just yet.

Trustee Greg McCreary, who represents Tracy and has opposed acquiring the Lodi site, said only time will tell if Delta got a good deal on the land.

Many more studies must be done on the acreage before anything can be built there. A comprehensive environmental review must be conducted — a process than can last more than a year, and add many extra expenses to building a campus.

"If we give someone $400,000 and they don't come up with anything, then we paid way too much," McCreary said last week.

If, on the other hand, the Victor Road site eventually becomes the bucolic campus, complete with a viticulture center and amphitheater in view of the rolling Mokelumne River, then Rodriguez will be worth "every dime" the college paid him, McCreary said.

Contact reporter Chris Nichols at chrisn@lodinews.com.

Reader Feedback

Simi wrote on Jun 5, 2007 8:54 PM:

" Seemee; guardian of justice, which comic book are you from. paranoid of what? just enjoying some sport blogging. isn't what this page is mostly about. Sometimes thinking one person is another, that thought does run wild with many bloggers, mostly true at times, but as we then learn we can be wrong. "

Simi wrote on Jun 5, 2007 8:43 PM:

" Lodian, Yeap, didn't get a dime on anything, just hoping Delta comes my way and buys my land, (being outside of the 10 mile rule). the only dime I had was what I dropped on a few people here. "

Lodian wrote on Jun 5, 2007 7:50 PM:

" Okay Simi, if you are upset and all I'll give you a binky! "

jf wrote on Jun 5, 2007 4:39 PM:

" Unveiling? Master Plan? 7500 STUDENTS? I also predict Jimmy Hoffa will present the plan. http://www.lodi.gov/clerk/aaPDFimages/06-06-07%20K-01.pdf "

Lodian wrote on Jun 5, 2007 1:50 PM:

" simi: Are you upset because you didn't make any money on anything? :-) "

nocomprende wrote on Jun 5, 2007 12:38 PM:

" what is and where is raleighs? "

oh wrote on Jun 5, 2007 11:16 AM:

" Simi-The project stinks nomatter what you have to say!And I hope these people that abused there positions.Will be tared and feathered!Along with there corrupt friends that take advantage of the public trust and wellbeing!So stick it! "

Simi wrote on Jun 5, 2007 7:35 AM:

" Shoot I would be pissed on missing out on the deal by Raleighs. 300K+ "

lol wrote on Jun 4, 2007 10:14 PM:

" maybe simi is pissed because he missed out on all the big bucks in the delta deal. lol! "

Airstream wrote on Jun 4, 2007 6:21 PM:

" I am not "verified it" or seemee or any other blog nickname. I am Airstream. You know, like the trailers which I thought was a fitting name for the new trailer park campus simi and the other Paranoid ratpack members would like our community to accept for our hard earned tax dollars. "

Simi wrote on Jun 4, 2007 3:28 PM:

" Verified it a.K.a (also Known as) Airstream, So your Associate Press cat chasing thing I'm dismissing as a off the subject comment directed at "I don't know" but its out there in la la land. which this blog will be when it gets archived in a day or so. "

Simi wrote on Jun 4, 2007 3:21 PM:

" You're asking Sod buster this,that is one aspect I haven't seen. But getting back to the facts, and I would think Verified it is airstream, Obv. this blog is on a side track, but Jf has his facts, I have mine, they are opposite. So only time will show which are true and false. As per the article, the consultant did his job. Have you tried to hire a consultant for anything lately? they are not free nor cheap. "

seemee wrote on Jun 4, 2007 3:00 PM:

" I'm not, JF, I am the guardian of justice. The paranoia grows cancerous. "

verified-it wrote on Jun 4, 2007 10:50 AM:

" simi, et al, how can so many different "handles" spell attorney...attOURney and attOURIES. do you all eat out of the same trough? put on on your sod buster hat and show us the jf sales agreement you offered to show a few days ago. also if there was no option and jf land is overpriced, why did dp make the motion to accept the option. now that is a fact. please answer. also, would you pay $423k to a supposed expert who doesn't know an option?? please answer! "

Simi wrote on Jun 4, 2007 6:21 AM:

" Airstream Read your own blog and then answer your questions. See, you're asking me for names, For what? if you actually had facts backing up one of your bogus claims you would have names and timelines, but as you wrote in your blogs, don't rely on gossip. get off your butt and go research it. Internet blogs are for comments/opinions, So Medusa, think about it. "

Simi wrote on Jun 3, 2007 9:25 PM:

" airstream, mistaken JF for you, so Sorry Jf, So Airstream, why do you need to change your name for a blog (seemee). my point has been, every anti delta person screams, distrust, lies, doc's that are coming, and nothing has. I would have thought the New Papers would have gotten them, the grand jury and What NOTHING. So facts are facts Saying I'm relying on gossip. Facts are not gossip. So keep chasing your tail and your obsession with this cat thing. "

Simi wrote on Jun 3, 2007 9:10 PM:

" Airstream, I like the quote earlier when they ref'd you as airhead, I'm AP? what? Assoc. Press? Cats? 32 Earth to idiot. Lay of your medication. I guess it was sunday and you're talking in tongue, I would guess you're not JF, because there's no ramalamdadingdong to it. Atleast JF keeps to his points. "

To Simi wrote on Jun 3, 2007 4:32 PM:

" I will pray for you Simi. You really need some professional help. Seek it, anger management at the very least. You are a time bomb. Hate and anger get you nowhere!! "

Observer wrote on Jun 3, 2007 3:56 PM:

" Hate to say I told you so, but this has degenerated into how may cats someone owns. Anyone with an interest in a campus in Lodi, must be shaking their heads. I suspect that would include Council Members and or Delta Trustee's. Not very stimulating or useful conversation. Someone has done an artful job or drawing JF into making foolish comments. "

Jf wrote on Jun 3, 2007 11:26 AM:

" Like I said earlier Simi, your a sad commentary to what is wrong with this city and this plan. You are a lathargic transgressing local media hack, you spew what you are fed and told to say not what truth or research of documents show. Drop the handle and step up. You insult me with petty names, it seems obvious in regards to "wussy's" it takes one to know one. "

To Simi from jf wrote on Jun 3, 2007 11:18 AM:

" All these personal attacks simi. Cant respond to the issue, only calling names and plenty of Psycho Babbling, Do yourself a favor, bring that booster chair Tuesday, put it beside you so we know who you are, I'll hop up in it and we could chat? How about it? "

Airstream wrote on Jun 3, 2007 10:11 AM:

" And by the way seemee it's cats (all 32 of them). Did you know that by SJ County ordinance you are only allowed three. Looks like somebody is breaking the law in that area too! "

Airstream wrote on Jun 3, 2007 10:09 AM:

" Your McCaughna blog gave you away AP! As is always the case you resort to gossip and name calling. Runs in the family. Honest dialogue is part of the democratic process but deceitful ommissions, brown act, FPPC, and Political Reform violations are another. I heard that the wheelbarrow was almost empty by the time the "silent partner" was paid. "

Simi wrote on Jun 3, 2007 9:04 AM:

" 1 call name, always the same for me, obv not you. but implying I'm full of cr-p, that would be JF. "

Simi wrote on Jun 3, 2007 8:39 AM:

" Jf you should change your name to "short shady". We'll have a booster seat waiting for you Tuesday Night. See you there. Will the real JF please stand up. OH! your are. I'm sorry. JUST remember the truth is a hard thing for you to hide. Let the Facts fly. "

seemee wrote on Jun 2, 2007 6:41 PM:

" looks like someone is getting very, very paranoid or overmedicated. Another you use your real name and quit all your gossipy, threatening blogs, you're nothing but full of crap. Why don't you give some names if you know so much? How many different names do you use? Speak up simi, cat got your tongue? "

Simi wrote on Jun 2, 2007 3:49 PM:

" Airstream, You're my saving "GRACE",=) great motivation to drop some good blogs. but I can't figure your cat fetish out. Cat has your tongue? Maybe you're Medusa with 32 tongues? or just names. "

Simi wrote on Jun 2, 2007 3:34 PM:

" Verified it: you're nuts, 1st I stick to my call all the time unlike, You. keep guessing on me, I'm the lone gun man with you in my sights, operating solo, alone. NO co-pilot, or your wife typing in tandum. comprende? I'm laughing, thinking I'm Dp. Shoot with his Wheelbarrow of $$ he could pay someone to do this (according to theLNS).....mmmmmmmm. No, I am not getting paid to do this, its my new recreation, Sport Blogging. Batter UP! "

Simi wrote on Jun 2, 2007 3:21 PM:

" Snitch, did you know, that when you turn someone in for tax fraud, that you'll be audited with in the next 2 years. Where I am lost on this blogg now is, Where's the tax fraud? Where's it realated to the article? Where are you going? "

Simi wrote on Jun 2, 2007 2:11 PM:

" Jf remember this, The Truth never lies, How ever you want to paint it, the underlying truth will always surface, like the sun rising each morning, sadly the sun is fading the picture you've tried to paint. "

Simi wrote on Jun 2, 2007 11:39 AM:

" JF, see the cat never has my tongue, it's just child's play, when you're playing with a wussy.......... Cat. "

Simi wrote on Jun 2, 2007 10:31 AM:

" JF n Company, Is it going to be a "law and order presentation at the next CC meeting. Dumb, Dumb. I can see it, "here's my piece of scribble, they're hinding stuff, and you the members of the council are on the take also. You're all out to get me". E I E I O. Again, When everyone is out to get you, from the neighbor's dog to the whole world, it is called denial of reality, and borders on Paranioa. "

Simi wrote on Jun 2, 2007 10:21 AM:

" JF, since it has been to easy to push your button, We'll here's a big push. If you have issues with agreements, contracts, "that the inked dried" and the "rat Pack" is hiding in the back room with bribes and secret deals. GET An ATTourney, and take care of your legal business, as professionals do in court. NOt some blog. Here's the fact, if all you say has happened, then facts don't lie and tons of attournies would be knocking on your door. Too bad all you hear is silence. "

to JF wrote on Jun 2, 2007 8:26 AM:

" Are you sure that isn't that 7 in the morning shirtsleeve meeting that the Lodi CC uses for their own purpose because they know that no one can make a meeting that early? It's usually just a shirtsleeve or "secret" Brown Act meeting and issues are never covered in the towns National Enquirer so only the chosen few are informed. "

JF wrote on Jun 1, 2007 8:54 PM:

" CHECK OUT THIS LINK,http://www.lodi.gov/clerk/aaPDFimages/06-06-07%20K-01.pdf Lodi CC meeting this coming Tuesday night! Now it is up to 7500 students and 400 jobs! Come to Papa Big Boy! To the rest of you trustees and thieves, come on down, your the next contestant on "The Lie is Right"! "

T & C wrote on Jun 1, 2007 3:39 PM:

" I'd sure tend to believe JF's blogs here any day rather than someone or a group with anonymous blog names and accusations who're posting on here refuting everything JF has to say. They sound more like the crooks themselves that know or are related to the accused parties. Same parties preaching how great Lodi CC and management is. Maybe it's some of them! While us taxpayers are getting robbed blind by elite Lodians, realtors, developers and builders. "

oh wrote on Jun 1, 2007 10:28 AM:

" Don't let them off the hook (JF)!I think there was some behind the curtain-shady deals going on!These people need to be exposed for there abuse of there position!Tared and Feather!And the people that are influencing there decisions need to pay BIG TIME!Consultants and developers all getting Fat from these DONKEYS!It needs to STOP! "

Airstream wrote on Jun 1, 2007 10:27 AM:

" What's the matter Simi,Sodbuster,Observer Cats (all 32 of them) got your tongue? "

oh wrote on Jun 1, 2007 10:00 AM:

" I got a question!Do these consualtants have to guaranty any of there work?Do they get paid no matter what happens?How do we know if they are not on the take-(Back Room Deals)?Because I haven't see any good advise come from any of the ones around here! "

Airstream wrote on May 31, 2007 6:15 PM:

" Bought the Handel property for 20K and selling it for 250k. 29% capital gains between state and fed should net the respective governments millions. And that is only one of the parcels. BooHoo to those that greedily moved the chess peices forward on this backroom deal. "

To Belt Buster from JF wrote on May 31, 2007 5:12 PM:

" I am waiting to review your documents. You big phony! I'd also like to know who has all this money? Oh for the rest of you, the mystery developer is Capital Avenue Development from West Sacramento, check the web! "

snitch wrote on May 31, 2007 5:07 PM:

" airstream, believe me, there will be no escaping capital gains. there will be no eligible "donation" deduction. although these items are in the recitals, there must be condemation attempt by the public institution. there was absolutely NONE. the parties that signed and/or drafted these agreements are parties to federal tax fraud. irs form number:3949 A, has been filled out and sent. we recieved acknowledgement last friday of case assignment. good luck to the ill-advised! "

Airstream wrote on May 31, 2007 2:34 PM:

" And while I am on the subject did the word abstain not become part of the english language until dp graduated from Stockton College. By his actions he does not have this word in his tool belt and certainly does not know how to use it. "

Airstream wrote on May 31, 2007 2:19 PM:

" I have only heard JF (AirJer) over the years talking to Gary Radnich on Sportstalk. Have never met the guy although I knew his dad. As to the posts trying to prop up the "challanged one" I too beleive they come from the same family. I personally know there is one last and most damning bit of evidence that will be his undoing. Is the suspence killing you dp? "

Lodian wrote on May 31, 2007 1:53 PM:

" Wondering: More than one person posts in 24 hours time. He11, there are even a couple that post as "Lodian" in a day, so there is surely more than one person here! LOL! "

verified-it wrote on May 31, 2007 1:43 PM:

" no i'm not jf. to wondering, why aren't you wondering why sod buster doesn't post jf's sale agreement? obviously he is all mouth. it is also obvious to a 3rd grader even, that wondering, sod buster, observer and simi are from one family. so mr/mrs dp, you should try and clean up the grammer & spelling under at least one of those handles. the ones the banker daughter writes at least don't sound cave-person. sod buster, post the jf sales agreement..ahh ha ha ha, oink-oink! "

Wondering wrote on May 31, 2007 12:47 PM:

" Anybody notice over the past 24 hours, 7 of the last 11 posts are from the same person (JF, Airstream, "to sodbuster")? Must enjoy talking to himself. "

Airstream wrote on May 31, 2007 12:31 PM:

" Make Vien and Nies pay the commission on the sale of their overly inflated ag. land. Why should the taxpayers suffer the bill? The sellers blog about their 200K per acre land and what a bargain Delta is getting when in reality the true cost is hovering around 350K. Then they gift the difference between land under contract at 200K and land after entitilements at 350K and avoid capital gains taxes. So they rob Delta of our tax dollars and then don't pay the feds their share. Nice deal for Lodians Huh? "

to sod buster wrote on May 31, 2007 10:53 AM:

" still waiting for you to post the the sale agreement for jf's house. are you all talk and bs? only dp, serna, and the consultant know who specifically have money involved, or i would call them. the sales agreement refer to "the developer" but gives no names. great contract for delta, who puts up $2mil now, sellers/developer put up $000000. damn that consultant drives a hard bargain! so show us all jf's sales agreement, as you offered earlier or fade away. "

sod buster wrote on May 31, 2007 9:04 AM:

" All you people that are replying to Jerry's bleeding heart should not get caught up in all of his BS....Why don't you call the sources that have money involved to get the answers instead of JF that has nothing invested. "

WY wrote on May 31, 2007 7:25 AM:

" When i grow up I wanna be a consultant. The bookoo money is in consulting. I mean Lodi need one of these types for every brain fart it has! Yahoo for consulting in Lodi. "

really? wrote on May 30, 2007 3:59 PM:

" is it really true the used trailers are coming from mustang ranch? well it is very symbolic, since lodi is getting screwed big time. can we get that pretty blue water in the out houses? now this is right up ol' sod buster's alley! "

Lodian wrote on May 30, 2007 1:24 PM:

" GO Airstream! "

Airstream wrote on May 30, 2007 11:48 AM:

" And let Vien and Nies pay the 533K for the consultant. The bond was to build campuses not line the pockets of the above mentioned landowners. "

Aistream wrote on May 30, 2007 11:44 AM:

" If the sellers are to pay the commission on a real estate sale then what in the HE-DOUBLE TOOTHPICKS are the taxpayers footing the bill for? 16 million dollars times 6% (standard real estate commission) is 960K. Let Vien and Nies pay the bill and leave the rest of us and our money alone! "

Airstream wrote on May 30, 2007 10:37 AM:

" Somebody please loan the trustees a calculator to get a better handle on the true cost of Lodi's campus. Land aquisition 16 million, Used trailers 7 million, infrastructure 7 million, commissions, eir,ag. mitigation, consultants 4 million. Delts should subcontract with LUSD at least they can build schools with bond money and have something to show the taxpayers. "

JF wrote on May 30, 2007 9:10 AM:

" to sodbusted, Yes Id like to see the document! Please post it for us all to see. Every page, every line, every word. "

To Sod Buster wrote on May 30, 2007 8:21 AM:

" You really do ride the short bus don't you. The document you speak of was broken by the college just like all the other promises they have lied about. They strung JF around just like all the other tax payers promising things they knew they were not going to produce. Can't wait to see what promise is broken next. "

Airstream wrote on May 30, 2007 8:14 AM:

" It would be better to scrap the Victor Road site or offer the sellers the opportunity to pay for all the infrastructure in exchange for the Delta dollars. There is no reason why the City of Lodi should spend a penny on running services to these sites. Other developers including Reynolds Ranch have paid the freight why not the landowners on Victor Rd. "

sod buster wrote on May 29, 2007 7:50 PM:

" Jerry made a deal on the sale of his home...quit lying or would you like to see the document??? that you aggreed to. "

to verified-it wrote on May 29, 2007 7:10 PM:

" You can blow all the smoke you want about Options. One glaring fact stands out....You blew your agreement and no one is trying to take your land, force you off your land or even wants your land. Little tough to swallow isn't it. Bye Jerry. "

To Observer from JF wrote on May 29, 2007 7:04 PM:

" I take offense to your charge of name calling and hateful speak. You need to look back a little and see how people address me. I put the actual documents in front of you, I give you quotes and the facts and then you insult me and claim Im "hateful"? WTF? At this point this is a no win for me either way it goes. "

to: to verified-it wrote on May 29, 2007 4:57 PM:

" it's quite obvious you don't want to answer legitiimate questions. i now firmly believe you don't understand what an option is....forget it. for such a huge man you dance alot. how come you made the motion to obtain the ferdun option??? do you understand that question? i know you won't answer, but do you think the ink on that motion sheet are going to disappear? constant denial and guilt will eventually lead to insanity! where you the banjo player in deliverance? "

to verified it wrote on May 29, 2007 3:10 PM:

" What are you all worked up about? Trustees don't want your overpriced 4 acres and aren't spending bond money to pay for it. It's just like you bought it back for $1.4 mil. You are a real financial wizzard. It's all yours. You should be happy, right? Oh, just one more question. How many acres do you own? Have you verified-it?????? "

verified-it (cont) wrote on May 29, 2007 1:26 PM:

" in conclusion, observer, i stayed civil with you, which all of us should be. you too can go pickup the sales agreement at vp dunn's office. i gave you verifiable-pure facts. i respectfully request, should you choose to respond to me, please don't "dance" around the facts". don't you think for $400 thousand the consultant should know what an assignable real estate option is? "

Lodian2 wrote on May 29, 2007 1:24 PM:

" The rambling diatribes come from needing to respond to Simi and Observer's caustic comments. "

verified-it (cont) wrote on May 29, 2007 1:14 PM:

" sooo dp wanted this "overpriced" house bad enough to make the motion. delta consultant blew it big time, as the option he told the trustees exsisted, never exsisted!!! therefore sir, it wasn't delta's wise decision to "drop" jf's 4 acres, they got dupped! of course dp and the spending three will never admit a mistake, so it's all jf's fault, not the high priced consultant and unatentive business challenged delta administration and trustees! "

Not Observant wrote on May 29, 2007 1:13 PM:

" I read all of the comments refrenced by The "Observer" and find nothing offensive. Do some not have aright to an opinion? It really appears just the opposite with the name calling eminating from your "camp". "

verified-it wrote on May 29, 2007 1:04 PM:

" observer: dec. 5, 2006: motion by trustee parises, seconded, trustee rivera, carried by 5-2 vote, rivera, burke, serna, bugarin and parises in favor, mccreary and simas opposed, trustees of SJDCCD approved and authorized sup/pres rodriguez to execute a purchase and sale agreement and joint escrow instructions with the OPTION OWNERS for the district's purchase of 4 acres. (jf's property). OPTION OWNERS are nhon/lisa vien. the full agreement will be available for public in the office of andy dunn, the vp for business services. "

Airstream wrote on May 29, 2007 12:55 PM:

" Lodi is yet to produce a new general plan and the current one has no provision for moving much beyond the current easterly boundary. The lands to the east are ag. 40 and should be valued accordingly. Too bad for the pie in the sky landowners trying to feed of my tax dollars. If you don't like the new price structure don't sell. Delta should move on to the next site and more reasonable sellers. "

Observer wrote on May 29, 2007 11:25 AM:

" Unfortunately, the lack of civility and rational thought shown by "JF", "Airstream" and "sick & tired", have turned this blog into something that resembles the Jerry Springer Show. Instead of reading well-defined points, we get rambling diatribes. "

Observer wrote on May 29, 2007 11:16 AM:

" Airstream...Based on your analysis, Delta made a wise decision in dropping JF's overpriced house. Obviously you read this paper and have seen the map showing Lodi's General Plan Revision. It includes your area. If not Delta, it will definitely be warehouse/industrial in short order. Just look down the road to the new ADM project. You are not paying attention. "

Observer wrote on May 29, 2007 10:58 AM:

" I apologize JF. I thought they were one in the same. I still find it rather amazing that 3 people could espouse the same uninformed, uneducated, selfserving, hateful information. "

Lodian wrote on May 29, 2007 9:19 AM:

" JF: You've got that right! There are many behind you. "

JF wrote on May 28, 2007 4:33 PM:

" to Observer, You are not very smart to think I need multiple handles to make my point. Shockingly for you, there actually exist people who agree with me and can see right thru this fraudulent and corruptly constructed mess. "

oh wrote on May 28, 2007 3:04 PM:

" What a big waste of public money!You public servents all make me sick to my stomach!I hope you had a nice memorial day knowing you rob from the people around you!Why don't you let the illeagls take your jobs from you?Maybe you people will wise up?If that happens! "

oh wrote on May 28, 2007 2:51 PM:

" LNS only post the comments they want!What is up with them?Maybe they need to hire these consultants on how to run a good paper? "

Sick and Tired wrote on May 28, 2007 1:45 PM:

" To to sick & tired....$7.5 mil sounds a heck of a lot better than $15 mil for puchase only to house "portables"! That's not including all the overbudgeting this board allows! When all is said and done, this site will cost well over $7.5 mil. Let's try to save the tax payer some money. Try again, buddy. It does makes sense to save money and land, but of course you wouldn't get rich off that. Would you? "

Airstream wrote on May 28, 2007 1:42 PM:

" It is currently AG zoned property in the county. The city would not even dream of going east in the next twenty years if it were not for what was represented as a full service college campus. I still maintain that they need to exit the current sales arrangement and place a slightly better than ag. value on theuplands. Discount the bottom land or lot line adjust one parcel to incorporate the others and leave the bottom land to the bottom feeders. "

Observer wrote on May 28, 2007 9:32 AM:

" Well, it's fairly obvious that "sick & tired", "Airstream" and JF are the same person. If "Simi" stopped baiting him, he would have no one to communicate with. Rational thinking and intelligent exchange have degenerated into placing Delta in empty buildings somewhere in Lodi. I'm sure he's joking, but we're down to that foolish level of discussion. "

To Airstream wrote on May 27, 2007 8:01 PM:

" O.K. I'll say this real slow. Site will not, I repeat, will not be ag ground. It will be annexed into city, zoned properly with city services, infrastructure,etc. What $60K for flood plain? Show us one piece of ground, meeting basic requirements for $200K or less per acre.This would include the 10 mi. minimum distance. Please don't use Reynolds Ranch $350K per ac. site. "

to sick & tired wrote on May 27, 2007 7:52 PM:

" What about State Mandatory Retrofit requirements? Would cost at least $7.5 mil for a building they would rent! No expansion room. That sound like a good idea to you? A fical and logistical nightmare. "

Airstream wrote on May 27, 2007 6:38 PM:

" If this site is to be a future campus then so be it. Rodriguez can dump the sales contracts with the two landowners and renegoiate a price more in keeping with ag. land values. Both landowners paid a fraction of the Delta offer within the last few years and if they are not willing to accept a reasonable offer move onto one of the other suggested sites. Who in their right mind pays 60K per acre for land in the floodplain anyway? "

Sick and Tired wrote on May 27, 2007 4:15 PM:

" Regarding the JF situation. Delta never offered to buy his property. They only said they would buy the property due to an existing option for Vien to purchase Ferdun property, which never existed. Now, instead of admitting defeat, they dig their heels in and defiantly keep going with the project in spite of overbudgeting. I suggest every person call the Governor and file a formal complaint for a complete investigation. I also suggest every person call the D.A. and get his office involved. Come on, Lodi, get off your butts and make some noise! "

Sick and Tired wrote on May 27, 2007 4:09 PM:

" I'll say it again...Why not set the campus up in some of the abandoned buildings in Lodi (such as Blue Shield). No need to annex, no need to bring in utilities, no need for land specs!!!!! Oh yes, that's too easy and it wouldn't line the corrupt individual's pockets. Right? It makes perfect sense to save $$$$ since Delta's board keeps crying on project overcosts. Putting a satelite campus in Lodi is good, but be realistic. "

To Airstream wrote on May 27, 2007 12:44 PM:

" The Air is Streaming in one ear and out the other with no interference. Where would you locate the campus? Must be in city limits, with services, zoning, infrastructure, entitlements, convenient location, ample parking, room for expansion, 10+ miles away from Stockton campus and all for less than $200K per acre. Where is this ideal site? Airhead, is there anybody home? "

Simi wrote on May 27, 2007 10:01 AM:

" Airstream. you need infrastructure ie water sewer etc, that site can tie into the city's system. JUST buy ag ground somewhere, As per Vic Goeghring its too valuable. As per Rodriguez findings, there were 5 possible sites for lodi, with in the parameters needed. This site of the 5 was picked, on a Vote 6 to 1, McCeary was the No. So the so called "rat pack" was nearly the whole board. "

Airstream wrote on May 27, 2007 6:12 AM:

" Dump the current sales contract with the two landowners on Victor Road. Make Rodriguez renegoiate a fair price for ag. land because that is all it is. When the entitlemnets are in place give the two landowners a small fee and thank them for helping establish Delta in Lodi. Name two buildings after them if it is their desire. "

LodiNative wrote on May 26, 2007 4:10 PM:

" Is someone suggesting JF is being forced off his land? Excuse me, but he tried to sell it! Because of his big mouth, no one wants it now. JF has no farm land. He even turned old family land into a junk yard. Don't believe me? Go look at junk pile he's so passionate about now. Even fenced in his junk. "

Simi wrote on May 26, 2007 1:03 PM:

" So the root of the complaints for the some of the residence of the /near the Victor site is Money. One can sell their property on the westside of Lodi for 300K +/ac, and oppose building on valuable Ag Ground east of town. As to the Article, every ney sayer could do a better job, with no qualifications, should have submitted it in the initial phases, but then you'd be taking the heat. "

to simi wrote on May 26, 2007 11:46 AM:

" Some people value their family, farm, home and tradition more than they do the 200K. The 200K is nothing when looking at the value of this land and a person's home. You obviously would sell your mother for a few bucks. "

Simi wrote on May 26, 2007 7:56 AM:

" Where's the huge loss of others? getting 200 k per acre is not too shabby. "

to to observer wrote on May 25, 2007 10:29 PM:

" You see it as high strung? I see it as being passionate about your home and farmland. People don't like to be forced off their land. In the old days he could have fored the shot gun at anyone coming onto the property. Too bad he can't do that now. Are you so closed minded that you don't see that? "

oh wrote on May 25, 2007 7:41 PM:

" To-To JF-I 2nd that!Stay on it JF!These people care nothing but for there own gain!Ask any long time res. of Lodi!I see it your way.GOOD LUCK! "

TO JF wrote on May 25, 2007 2:13 PM:

" We are all behind you on this, JF! You know who your friends and supporters are and this one person means nothing. No worries, pal. We've got your back. Your points are well stated and make all the sense in the world to the normal people of Lodi. This does not include the people that are greedy and stand to gain through the huge loss of others, their land and by sneaking by the people of Lodi. They will be stopped. It's happening as we speak. "

Simi wrote on May 25, 2007 2:01 PM:

" Jf, no worries here, just pleasure watching the wheels turn. The future campus however it is in the begining will be a start of something that will benefit Lodi, Wine industry and future students. "

Lodian2 wrote on May 25, 2007 1:39 PM:

" I asked this question on the "6.5 million' article blog and I'll ask here too. Is the 6.5 million just for the modular buildings? What is the land acquisition cost? Who is paying for the annexation, the EIR, infrastructure, changes to Hwy 99? I'm sure that the consultant fees is different than the actual commission made in the land sale. So how much is the Lodi campus actually costing Delta? "

To Observer wrote on May 25, 2007 12:35 PM:

" You are absolutely correct. This has degenerated into a platform for JF and Simi to snipe at each other. It would appear Simi has succeeded in sending JF over the edge. Pretty high strung folks. "

Simi Baby wrote on May 25, 2007 8:25 AM:

" Calm down boy!! We can hear your heart beating through the blog. You are way to obvious in who and what you have to gain from this deal. If you are so right, shut up, sit back, and don't worry! "

To Simi wrote on May 24, 2007 8:55 PM:

" Why do you continue to bait JF? He swallows the hook every time. We understand what he's about. His credibility is long gone. So, let's start discussing something other than modular buildings, personalities, how much money people make, etc. Let's talk about how we can make this a better place for generations to come. "

SIMI Lamma ding dong wrote on May 24, 2007 11:49 AM:

" More Simi, Ok, Ofcourse the CC would swallow this and annex, Lets see, a broke and mismanaging group of politicians with an infusion of millions in tax revenue for nothing out of pocket? DUH! DISTRUST SIMI, Im just starting! Lets talk how and who arranged to get the properties? Do you really want to go there now SIMI Baby? Lets talk about the oversight committe for Delta, where are they? SIMI, You are local media Hack, and not a very good one! Grasp Truth Babe! "

to Simi boyee cont'd wrote on May 24, 2007 11:44 AM:

" MORE DISTRUST? OK, They dont talk about the aquisition cost of Lodi in the 6.5M set aside so add that 12 Million. MORE DISTRUST, OK. They tell me they will use eminant domain if I dont bail out, now they say they dont need it, whatever. EVERYTHING THE TRUSTEES ARE DOING IS STEERED BY THE DEVELOPERS, It is not and never has been about the campus, it is about $$$$$ "

To Simiboy wrote on May 24, 2007 11:39 AM:

" Cont'd SOooooo, DISTRUSTEES, Absolutely, To save face they stick out their hand again to the state, BAMMO! 30 million more bond money to do what the original 250 M was supposed to cover. STILL NOT ENOUGH. More Distrust! Then they re-group, downsize scope from original sales pitch, Temporaries EVERYWHERE and down to 6.5 million set aside! "

JF wrote on May 24, 2007 11:37 AM:

" Simi, Baby, sweetheart, Ok, hold on, Here is how it works spinner boy. Measure L was for existing infrastructure improvements