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Global warming has not been scientifically proven


Wednesday, March 28, 2007 6:57 AM PDT

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What business does the City of Lodi Electric Utility have in showing Al Gore's propaganda film, "An Inconvenient Truth" on global warming? This is a gross abuse of the public trust at a time when the electric utility is suffering and raising everyone's utility rates. Is the utility blaming global warming for its mismanagement?

Will we next be treated (at our expense) to a documentary on how Al Gore invented the Internet? The idea that human activity somehow affects global climate change has little to do with science. It is all about control. It is about having the government regulate, limit and control every aspect of your life, while the Al Gores of this world live in luxury.

Little do we hear any reporting about the well-respected, honest scientists who oppose the global warming fanaticism, nor are we reminded that just 30 years ago many of these same individuals were beating drums and sounding alarms about entering a global ice age.

A petition project (http://www.oism.org) was organized to demonstrate that a vast number of scientists disagree that human activity is causing global climate change. More than 17,100 basic and applied American scientists, two-thirds with advanced degrees, have signed the petition.

They include 2,660 physicians, geophysicists, climatologists, meteorologists, oceanographers and environmental scientists, who are especially well-qualified to evaluate the effects of carbon dioxide on the Earth's atmosphere and climate.

The petition reads, "We urge the United State's government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology and damage the health and welfare of mankind.

There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and anima environments of the Earth."

Jim Hicks
Lodi

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Daniel wrote on Apr 10, 2007 10:55 PM:

" Imposter Birchman: Twisted circular logic. Not even a nice try. "

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Birchman wrote on Apr 10, 2007 7:44 PM:

" I wonder what happened to Mr Hutchens? "

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Birchman wrote on Apr 9, 2007 1:42 PM:

" If everything the Bolsheviks say is a lie and if the Bolsheviks say that Global Warming is a hoax, does it not follow that it is a lie to say that Global Warming is a hoax? This is all just simple logic, is it not? "

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Birchman wrote on Apr 9, 2007 12:02 PM:

" I am not asking whether you support the American Bolshevik Party, I am asking whether you agree with them that global warming is a hoax. Do you? "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 9, 2007 11:33 AM:

" Birchman: I don't support the American Bolshevik Party for anything. From where are you getting your information that the Bolsheviks oppose global warming politics. The Karl Marx advises the necessity of telling lies to world people in order to gain control. I consider that fair advance warning, so it would be wise not to believe any reference that comes out of someone that is Bolshevik. "

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Birchman wrote on Apr 8, 2007 7:02 PM:

" I have always supported the American Constitution. I have never had any of my posts deleted by the Lodi News Sentinel. "

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Birchman wrote on Apr 8, 2007 7:01 PM:

" Daniel, I have never asked you whether you were a "member" of the American Bolshevik Party. What I did ask you was whether you agree with the American Bolshevik Party that Global Warming is a hoax. If you can't understand the difference between these two questions, I can explain it to you. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 8, 2007 1:31 PM:

" Jennifer Phillips: If the "Birchman" would like to make a public display that he supports the American constitution, I would be happy to respond. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 8, 2007 1:29 PM:

" Jennifer Phillips: Sorry for so many answers to your questions. Both myself, and the John Birch Society are very much American, and very much respectful for the US Consitution, in its original form with the first 10 amendments. In my google searches, I noticed a letter I wrote on the North American Union pops up, and it has been cut-and-paste (with proper reference to the LNS). This is about when the "Ghost of John Birch" appeared. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 8, 2007 12:05 PM:

" Jennifer Phillips: Thank you for responding, and I would be happy to answer any other questions. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 8, 2007 12:04 PM:

" Jennifer Phillips: I am a member of the John Birch Society, and I can tell you by the nature of "Birchman's" postings, he is definitely NOT a member. I feel that the implications of his blogname, together with the disrespectful line of questioning, don't deserve a response. Actually, I have responded and the LNS deleted it. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 8, 2007 12:01 PM:

" Jennifer Phillips: The communist innuendos are pretty much the same drum beat of attacks on the John Birch Society. I noticed that postings on any topic can be returned in Google Search engines, so people like "Ghost of John Birch" and "Birchman could be coming from any part of the English-speaking world. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 8, 2007 11:59 AM:

" Jennifer Phillips: "Birchman" is asking if I am a member of the American Bolshevik Party, which is on the same line of questioning where "Ghost of John Birch" has left off. I got down with "Ghost" pretty hard for the communist innuendos, and the Lodi News Sentinel deleted these postings. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 8, 2007 11:55 AM:

" Jennifer Phillips: Birchman and I have been sparring with each other for about a month now. Last month, there was a blogname "Ghost of John Birch." Both the blogname "Ghost" and the blogname "Birchman" don't understand the John Birch Society, accusing exactly opposite of its purpose. I answered "Ghost" for a while, but all of my statements were ignored and "Ghost" only returned with disrespect for me and eventually came around to accusing both myself and the John Birch Society of being in partnership with communism. "

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Jennifer Phillips wrote on Apr 8, 2007 8:55 AM:

" Why won't Daniel answer Birchman's question? It looks like Birchman has him on the run. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 7, 2007 5:37 PM:

" Leonard (Birchman): In summary, you are obviously not from Lodi. It was not my direct ancestry that Lodi shows honor; that said, I suggest you never write "Hutchens Street Square" in Lodi. In New York, you can do that. In Lodi, people would look at you like, duh, what are you, a Bolschevek? I never heard of the American Bolshevik Party before. Can you tell me about it? Where do they meet? How many members are there in Lodi? "

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onlyme wrote on Apr 7, 2007 3:58 AM:

" yep... i think lets get some nuclear power plants... then work on solar... then just build light weight cars. maybe around 1000 lbs. One thing is for sure. Someday we will not be driving at all. We the poor will just be on buses. You might find fault in my grammer. But to be sure, are freedoms will melt away in time. Just like the ice. "

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Birchman wrote on Apr 5, 2007 6:11 PM:

" Yes or no question to Daniel Hutchins: Do you agree with the American Bolshevik Party that Global Warming is a hoax? "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 4, 2007 10:16 PM:

" The world-renowned science organization "National Geographic" reported "dramatic loss of Arctic sea ice." They like the summer time reports of molten ice cap, but look at the referenced video, which was taken in the month of March, in the Bering Sea. Corroborating this story is the Anchorage Daily News, which is reporting icebound ships just 250 -300 miles north of the Aleutians. I think I'd rather believe the world-renowned national geographic, whose report was based on satellite imagery, which is more reliable than Alaskan newspapers, and the following video taken in March: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Py-qroOL7s. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 4, 2007 3:06 PM:

" Leonard's Brother: I bet you use the same computer as Leonard et al. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 4, 2007 1:36 PM:

" Jeff: Did you see my post on the academy award nomination for President Bush, and congress? And again, yes, this British Hostage crisis could become a contrived excuse to attack Iran. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 4, 2007 1:34 PM:

" Another scare story. In 1994, I was in the strait of Formosa with the USS Kitty Hawk battle group. Both Chinas activated their surface-to-surface missiles. Hundreds of L-band transmissions on both sides. They had us in a potential cross-fire. Our CG only carried about 80 air defense missiles. If they had launched all their missiles, we would have exhausted our magazines, and their missiles would have still been coming in at us. The Kitty Hawk (2-star admiral on board (3-star?)) transmitted our "last" situational report, in case we would have been sunk. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 4, 2007 1:29 PM:

" 2007, Iran: I have heard about a new Russian missile, and I have only found one corroborating news story. Journalists have made it sound bad, as an anti-carrier missile, so that it scares civilians who don't understand if it can be engaged. The only way to change the usual 20 seconds of warning, would be to launch without detection (unlikely), or to increase its speed above mark 2. Next, ask if our electronics technicians can engage it. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 4, 2007 1:22 PM:

" When I was standing bridge watch in the strait of Hormuz, the captain would sit in his chair popping antacids, while in my ignorance, I was totally at peace with myself. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 4, 2007 1:20 PM:

" Besides having 20 seconds to react to notification of the launch, a ship has some advance notification when the launcher emits "L-band" transmission, a signal that is required to provide targeting data to the missile. The frequency of this transmission is slightly left of home telephone signals. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 4, 2007 1:17 PM:

" I was on a nuclear guided-missile cruiser USS California CGN-36. A CG can pick-off an inbound missile using air-air missiles, which only require about a 10-pound explosive, and don't even have to make a direct hit. However, starting from the time of launch, to the time of impact, is only about 20 seconds. During that 20 seconds, the technician has to determine if the inbound missile is a heat-seeker or radar-guided, and if it has decoy-discrimination. This simplified scenario has 4 possibilities. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 4, 2007 1:12 PM:

" continued. When I was in the navy in the 1990's, Iran guarded the strait with Chinese Silkwork missiles. They were a "dumb" missile with a heavy explosive payload. By "dumb," I mean it was easy to confuse its delivery system, with decoys. Aircraft carriers are defenseless in the strait, carrying 6,000 personnel, an air squadron, and nuclear reactors. Always, a guided missile cruiser escorts a carrier. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 4, 2007 1:08 PM:

" Jeff, eek, genPublic: In order to enter the Persian Gulf, a ship must pass through the Strait of Hormuz, which is only about 25 miles wide, with Iran on one side, and Oman on the other. International Law requires a ship to split the strait in half, as best as practical. cont. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 4, 2007 1:03 PM:

" Jeff: Yes, I am very concerned that the British hostage crisis could be enough of an excuse to invade Iraq. "

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Jeff wrote on Apr 4, 2007 10:33 AM:

" Daniel: isn't that's what's going on? i.e. Brits. "

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Birchman wrote on Apr 4, 2007 10:09 AM:

" I find your support for this communist conspiracy disturbing. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 3, 2007 5:05 PM:

" eek: Try http://www.jbs.org/search/node/Iran . Their server seems to be down right now, though. You'll have to come back. You'll find a lot of information about global warming in there, too - it's an archive search page. "

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eek wrote on Apr 3, 2007 12:17 PM:

" Daniel: sure send references "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 3, 2007 12:03 PM:

" Jeff: This is just my opinion, but I think VP Cheney (who "calls the shots" in the White House), will wait until he has a contrived excuse. It could even be a case of one unrelated 3rd party attacking another unrelated 3rd party. (In 1996, Tomohawk Cruise Missiles were launched into Iraq, by President Clinton's excuse which was nothing more than civil conflict within Iraq. Americans bought the story and never questioned it.) "

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Jeff wrote on Apr 3, 2007 10:05 AM:

" Maybe an attack on Friday, Good Friday? "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 3, 2007 10:02 AM:

" eek or General Public: If you are interested in studying Iran, I would be happy to provide a refernce. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 3, 2007 10:00 AM:

" eek: Do you want any references? "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 3, 2007 10:00 AM:

" General Public: Ditto the post to "eek" just below this one. That's pretty good evidence of a conspiracy right there, isn't it! Even though I expect this type of behavior from our leaders, because I have come into understanding through extensive study, it still upsets me sometimes. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 3, 2007 9:57 AM:

" eek: See the other headline, "Bush criticizes Democrats over Iraqi war funding"??? Give both the Associated Press and President Bush an Acadamie Award. The funding bill contains $4 Billion MORE than what President Bush asked for. Give the Washington Post an award. They call it the "toughest" congressional bill that congress has handed the president. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 2, 2007 10:34 PM:

" eek: Thank you. I already wrote a letter, but I submitted it only 7 days after the previous letter. The LNS has a strict 30-day minimum interval rule. They said they would print it after 30 days. I am biting my nails because the situation in Iran could get worse by then. I found a quotation from Cheney that shows intent to invade, not just contingency. There is a very important congressman from Texas: Ron Paul, who has already expressed his concern, and he suspects a Gulf of Tonkin type of contrived excuse. "

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eek wrote on Apr 2, 2007 7:52 PM:

" Daniel: I suppose either you or I will have to write a letter to the editor about Iran to get that blog going. "

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Daniel wrote on Apr 2, 2007 6:45 PM:

" eek: Thank you. I agree that we have more in common than differences. Best wishes in your biology research. "

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eek wrote on Apr 2, 2007 12:52 PM:

" Daniel: I agree with you completely on Iran. "

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eek wrote on Apr 2, 2007 12:44 PM:

" Can and will this field continue to be abused by politicians? I have no doubt. But the more knowledgeable we as citizens are the more we can fight against this corruption. Making this into a black a white issue will only continue to divide us and prevent us from making positive strides toward improvements. We have more in common than we do in differences. "

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eek wrote on Apr 2, 2007 12:42 PM:

" Daniel: thank you for your posts. I, too, am human, have a masters degree, and I currently work in research biology, though not in environmental biology. I know the extensive process researchers go through to ensure the legitimacy and the integrity of their research studies and the results they produce. I respect the scientific method and peer review process that is practiced internationally. Some people abuse this system, the majority does not. Cont. "

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sam wrote on Apr 2, 2007 12:18 PM:

" Daniel, I like your blogs to eek. Keep em coming. "

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Leonard's Brother wrote on Apr 1, 2007 4:05 PM:

" Daniel: Lenny asked me to tell you that he will be giving up the internet for the remainder of Lent. He says that he looks forward to renewing your education after Easter. -Mike "

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to Unlodian wrote on Apr 1, 2007 3:20 PM:

" if you are so anti-lodi then why do you care so much as to post in the LNS? Get a life dude. where do you live? You must hate it there or maybe you hate everything. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 31, 2007 11:09 PM:

" eek: Looking at your post again, be careful who does the "renouning" for "world's most renouned" scientists. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 31, 2007 11:06 PM:

" eek: By the way, the USA is closer to war with Iran than people realize. Cheney's orders to make preparations show that he is not just making contingency plans; he is looking for an excuse to attack, and he is willing to contrive one. Let's get off the global warming. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 31, 2007 11:04 PM:

" eek: Even though this answer was not the way you wanted it, I feel that I have offered a very much more valuable response than the simple question that you asked for, and I feel that I have shown you some respect. I am directing your attention toward things that are more important, and if you can investigate the other questions, you might answer your own question. I think that would be more valuable. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 31, 2007 10:59 PM:

" eek: Finally, I have applied my science-related education for a good part of my career, except for a 6 year sabatical including the US Navy, and various personal experiences. I don't care to advertise my present career in this forum, but I will tell that it involves communications with a lot of people, and I am expected to think in science. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 31, 2007 10:56 PM:

" eek: You don't need to refer to me as an "expert." I am a human being like everyone else here. I appear to be "smart" because I have earned it, through diligent study for a lot of years. You also don't need to refer to me as a "scientist," because I am just a human. However, I will tell you that I have a masters degree in a science-related field. I wrote a thesis; and, I defended it before four professors who did not have a sense of humor. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 31, 2007 10:49 PM:

" eek: While we are arguing about global warming, there are two very critical threats happening right now: war with Iran, which would escalate casualties to the level of the Vietnam War, and the termination of the United States of America. Are you interested in these, or do you still want to argue about global warming? "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 31, 2007 10:45 PM:

" eek: Somewhere in all the posts, I said there are issues more important than global warming, and while people are still arguing about global warming, I chose to write about something else. Global warming is a bad battle to fight. If you could learn first about the true nature of political corruption, I believe you would see the overall picture, and you wouldn't need to see an actual scientist. You would just know. continued- "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 31, 2007 10:41 PM:

" eek: 15 years ago, I witnessed political corruption, and that issue had a death toll that continues to rise today. Being a witness was traumatic. The word "witness" is strongly more convincing than words like "read about," "studied," and worse, "compromised." There is a death told on political corruption, so it is very important to be on the side that is good, to be steadfast without compromise, to understand, and to be on the side that is correct. -continued. "

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eek wrote on Mar 31, 2007 12:38 PM:

" Daniel: being the expert that you are in this field do you mind pointing me to your published journal articles and books? Clearly the works I am currently reading by the world's most renouned scientists are not up to par. "

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eek wrote on Mar 31, 2007 12:35 PM:

" Daniel: Out of curiosity, how do you think you are qualified to judge and label a well educated academic researcher a "pseudo-scientist"? Pointing fingers and calling someone you do not even know a "fake" seems a bit rash and reckless to me. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 31, 2007 8:46 AM:

" Leonard: I still claim that I haven't seen an actual scientist who can say the globe is warming as caused by human-kind, using scientific method. I already know if I go look at your reference, it'll turn up political. If you have a disagreement, you should publish. "

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Leonard wrote on Mar 30, 2007 9:26 PM:

" Danny: Again, the reference I cited was the article in the March 18, 2005 issue of Science by Dr. Gerald Meehl, a Senior Scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder Colorado. I look forward to your evaluation and your subsequent acknowledgment of the error of your current position. "

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Birchman wrote on Mar 30, 2007 7:55 PM:

" I think Daniel is a screen name for Leonard. This guy is working with the communists to screw the free countries of this Earth. He cannot be trusted. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 30, 2007 5:35 PM:

" Leonard: I might be a little bit busy unless you express yourself in a letter to the editor of this newspaper. I think you should make a commitment. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 30, 2007 5:29 PM:

" Leonard: One more thing. You have to put away the birchman, the ghost of john birch, and all your other blog names that I haven't realized yet. If it's not you, I would find it hard to believe that you don't know who it is. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 30, 2007 5:28 PM:

" Leonard: I guarantee anyone you give me is going to be a pseudo-scientist. The amount of work that I would have to do to uncovering the link to the establishment might be considerable. However, I could evaluate your reference according to his/her use of the scientific method. How's that? Where is your reference? "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 30, 2007 5:27 PM:

" Leonard: I showed you a scientist, and all you said is that he once worked for a tobacco company. You didn't even look at what he said, and how he was denied access to the press. Who is your legitimate scientist, again? I saw someone with your name on it, and I considered the source. I challenge anyone to show a legitimate reference, and I get references like Science magazine, NASA, Karl Sagan (dead now), Hockey stick graph "

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sam wrote on Mar 30, 2007 2:28 PM:

" Danial, so you are not concerned about CO2 emissions? Or is it that you are concerned about it, but are against the politics attached to Gore's scare tactics? "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 30, 2007 12:57 PM:

" Sam - and thank you. I appreciate yours as well. "

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eek wrote on Mar 30, 2007 10:23 AM:

" Daniel: LOL - You crack me up. You write that you are not interested in conversing with me and then 12 minutes later you ask me a question. Happy Friday. "

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Birchman wrote on Mar 30, 2007 10:03 AM:

" You say that I don't know anything about the John Birch Society when you are making common cause with the Communist Party? Well, that's funny! "

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sam wrote on Mar 30, 2007 9:02 AM:

" Daniel, thanks for your response. I do appreciate the information you post. "

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Leonard wrote on Mar 30, 2007 7:22 AM:

" Danny: You asked for evidence of Global Warming and I have provided such evidence from a respected scientist published in the most pretigous scientific journal. I await either legitimate criticism of the article I provided or an admission on your part that you have been wrong about this issue. "

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Leonard wrote on Mar 30, 2007 7:20 AM:

" Danny: I don't think anyone is going to mistake you for a communist but the fact remains that you have allied yourself with the communists on this issue. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 29, 2007 8:32 PM:

" Birchman: You don't know anything about the John Birch Society, and you are making up imposter blog names because you're afraid of people knowing your real blog name. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 29, 2007 8:27 PM:

" Leonard and eek: In case you haven't noticed, when I write letters to this paper, I don't choose to address the issues that you choose to argue about in these blogs. Well, actually I did write a global warming letter a couple years ago. There are a lot of people arguing about global warming again this month. Me? I'm not going to spend my 30-day limit on this topic. There are some issues in America that are of far greater importance. Do you know what they are? "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 29, 2007 8:22 PM:

" Leonard: It is a spiritual metaphysical law that people bring things upon themselves, and you are bringing up the communist thing again. I think you have some kind of personal problem about it, and you want people to think that I am communist. It is a natural communist tactic to charge the opposing faction with their own crimes. Do you have something personal that you would like to expose? I have a personal conviction that the communism party is penetrated into Lodi, as I have been observing a few things that fit their profile. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 29, 2007 8:18 PM:

" Leonard: I dropped the communist thing as a matter of politeness by your request. I don't think it's a very nice thing to say about somebody. Even though I still suspect, I chose not to put your name onto my suspicions. Now, you brought it up again. Do you see my post to Sam, the empty "continued-" ? That was going to be a communist suspicion, but I chose not to write it. cont. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 29, 2007 8:15 PM:

" eek: You're trying to get a bit personal with the inuendos about my resume. You don't even know what you're talking about, and having read your stuff through this past year, I don't have any interest in conversation. However, if you want to promote political taxes on the general forum, I'm watching and I'm not letting anything get by without the general public having a chance to see the truth. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 29, 2007 8:12 PM:

" A national trend. Frustrated global warming enthusiasts resort to childish name-calling. There must be a pretty substantial portion of the general public that gives approval, because it is allowed in a general forum. Either that or I must be in the wrong town. Can I have some intelligent people please? "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 29, 2007 4:19 PM:

" sam - continued: The multi trillion dollar expenses and consequences I spelled below have nothing to do with smog reduction. I argue so much because I understand the consequences of what people are arguing for. -cont. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 29, 2007 4:18 PM:

" sam: thank you for respondign. Reducing smog emissions does not conflict with the global warming scandal in any way. GlWarming enthusiasts want to spend trillions of dollars raising the elevation of levees, increasing the costs and taxes on vehicles and some machinery, reduce the productivity of the United States to bring it down to a level with totalitarian regimes throughout the world, and send taxes to the UN. -continued. "

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Leonard wrote on Mar 29, 2007 3:17 PM:

" Red Danny: You asked for information on global warming. I think a good place to start would be the article in the March 18, 2005 issue of Science by Dr. Gerald Meehl, a Senior Scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder Colorado. "

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eek wrote on Mar 29, 2007 2:30 PM:

" Daniel: I am not worried about the outcome of the debate. I simply wish we would start focusing on ways to successfully reduce emissions, which would benefit human and environmental health, rather than trying to make this into some sort of a politcal issue, which it isn't. "

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eek wrote on Mar 29, 2007 2:25 PM:

" Daniel: Taking chemistry 40 years ago does not make you an expert in modern day biology and ecology. Experts from Stanford, Harvard, UCLA, Yale, Scripps Institute, etc. who publish their well researched findings in peer reviewed scientific journals are the people I trust. "

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sam wrote on Mar 29, 2007 2:14 PM:

" Daniel, I am not sure I believe in global warming or not, but I do believe in what eek is saying. I for one would love having cleaner air here. It is a shame that we have days when we are told not to go outside because the pollution is so bad. I say quit the debate about gloabal warmer and lets clean up our air and water. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 29, 2007 11:44 AM:

" eek: No. We do not need to stop any debate for global warming. We'll stop debating when the truth comes out. If you are so confident about you have truth, then why are you worried about a debate? "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 29, 2007 11:42 AM:

" eek: If there is so much scientific evidence that supports global warming, then show me some. I have only seen pseudo-scientists. If you act belligerent that does not mean that you are correct. It just means you are belligerent, non-scientific-minded person quoting non-scientists. You don't know what you're looking at. "

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eek wrote on Mar 29, 2007 10:37 AM:

" We need to stop debating about global warming and instead focus on developing new technologies to reduce combustion emissions. Such reductions would result in significant health benefits to the elderly, young children with developing lungs, those with heart and lung disease, asthmatics, people who enjoy exercising outside, and people who work outside. I do not understand why anyone would be against improving this standard of living for allof us. "

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eek wrote on Mar 29, 2007 10:01 AM:

" Daniel: you can go in circles all you want. The reality is that you have no proof to discredit the scientific evidence of global warming. And just so we are clear, science fiction novels do not count as credible resources. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 29, 2007 10:00 AM:

" eek, Leonard: Eunice Friederich, from Lodi got a letter in the Stockton Record today. She has actual names of scientists who oppose the global warming scandal. They look like scientific faculty at accredited universities to me. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 29, 2007 8:17 AM:

" eek: It would be more appropriate for me to ask any of Al Gore's soldiers to prove humans have caused global warming. When a scientific theory is presented to referee scientists, the investigator has responsibility to prove the theory. You are asking the referee to disprove the proposition. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 29, 2007 8:14 AM:

" Dan: Humans have emitted large amounts of CO2 for only 50-100 years. Humans are miniscule when compared to the emissions from a single volcanic eruption. Another chapter of politics is the ozone layer being attacked because of human-created air conditioners; however, a volcano spews out thousands of times greater amount of humans entire world production of halogen-hydrocarbons. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 29, 2007 8:11 AM:

" To: 'to "rate of change" and others': I agree that the sun is responsible for climate change, and volcanos. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 29, 2007 8:09 AM:

" Unlodian: Thank you for saying sense of humor. I get a lot of flack in this column, and when there is humor, I sometimes get it mixed with the attacks. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 29, 2007 8:08 AM:

" eek: I'm not taking orders from you. "

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Dan wrote on Mar 29, 2007 6:37 AM:

" I don't understand why some people readily acknowledge one volcano can contribute to climate change but stubbornly and stupidly deny that centuries of billions of humans burning fires (wood, charcoal, coal, natural gas, cook stoves, water heaters, furnaces, electric power plants, cars, SUVs, diesel trucks, tractors, trains, planes, burning down rain forest - smoke that can be seen from space) can have any effect. "

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Dawes wrote on Mar 28, 2007 10:58 PM:

" I would like cleaner air. So if the Soc-libs would stop using all the clean air up while they scream the "end of the world" alarms!! I liked it better in the good ole days, when Soc-libs would just go off and start a commune, then realize they are too liberal to have rules or run anything properly, and the commune would fail. Oh I guess that would hurt their self esteem....? "

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to "rate of change" and others wrote on Mar 28, 2007 10:20 PM:

" unless you have been around for 400 million years none of you are experts, not daniel, not leonard and not all you "sky-is-falling" lurch-gore lemmings. what makes you think that a slight warming [cooling] cycle which occurs routinely over the past billion years spells disaster. if it does, it is the planet's way of cleansing itself. you people need to re-adjust your tin-foil hats. "

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Unlodian wrote on Mar 28, 2007 6:28 PM:

" What Daniel, no sense of humor? "

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eek wrote on Mar 28, 2007 5:15 PM:

" Daniel: do you believe human beings contribute to global warming? "

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eek wrote on Mar 28, 2007 5:13 PM:

" Daniel: prove global warming isn't happening and isn't a fact. "

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eek wrote on Mar 28, 2007 5:13 PM:

" Chicken Little: what do you consider to be the positives to global warming? "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 28, 2007 4:46 PM:

" Unlodian: Immature. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 28, 2007 4:45 PM:

" Leonard: You still fail to compare pseudo-science and science. Pseudo-scientists are everywhere, and they have more money than scientists. "

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Leonard wrote on Mar 28, 2007 3:54 PM:

" Danny: So far, in the course of weeks and weeks of debate, the only scientist you have managed to find that currently supports your position is a washed out tobacco hack who has spent the last six months confined to a nursing home because of the onset of dementia brought on by senility. In the meantime, literally hundreds of papers by the planets top scientists have been published documenting the fact that human activity is changing our climate. Can you bring forth any legitimate documentation to support your position? "

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leonard wrote on Mar 28, 2007 3:50 PM:

" Wiley: Why don't you tell the Polar Bears what fine stewards mankind has been? "

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Rate of change wrote on Mar 28, 2007 3:48 PM:

" yes the earths climate changes in cycles hot to warm to cold and vice a versa. The difference is the rate of change. The rate is so much incredibley faster. Such as extinction rates. The rate of change is increasing and moving faster. "

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Unlodian wrote on Mar 28, 2007 3:47 PM:

" Daniel, it's time to stop listening to those little voices in your head. "

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Chicken Little wrote on Mar 28, 2007 3:34 PM:

" Global warming is not fact. It is a scientific theory to explain specific observations of short term changes in weather patterns. The evidence is not conclusive. There is a statistically significant variation in the worldwide recorded temperatures but the reliability of the data is undermined by the methodology used to collect it and the assumptions behind the models used to analyze it. Most importantly, predicting the future effects is NOT science and neither is telling us what we need to do to stop global warming. I don't deny global warming. I believe the benefits will out weigh the detriments. "

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Shapiro Goldstein wrote on Mar 28, 2007 2:30 PM:

" Go stare down into the Grand Canyon. You will see 260 Million years of the earth's history, sea beds at 7,000 feet elevation, hot cycles, cold cycles, dry cycles, wet cycles. How did a sea bed get up to 7,000 feet elevation? The earth is going to change and nothing fuzz-for-brains hucksters like Allgore can do will change it. "

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nylodian wrote on Mar 28, 2007 1:29 PM:

" At the end of the day, even if you don't buy into global warming because of politics, why not support cleaner air/water/soil for us and future generations? "

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nylodian wrote on Mar 28, 2007 1:27 PM:

" wtf: here in Upstate NY we had a record snow storm in February - exactly as predicted last fall by a Syracuse meteorologist who was explaining how global warming will create more extremes (including cold) in weather. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 28, 2007 1:02 PM:

" Stevenson Harding. Thank you very much. Ditto what you said. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 28, 2007 1:01 PM:

" eek: I think both pro- and con- people agree that the earth's temperature is changing. The disagreement is about the cause. Politically-motivated people claim humans are the cause. Scientists who agree in climate change are saying that the sun is responsible. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 28, 2007 12:58 PM:

" Leonard: No. Balogna. Big words. No facts. You wrote: ...have since acknowledged the reality of global warming. "

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eek wrote on Mar 28, 2007 12:52 PM:

" Will our current lifestyle destroy mother nature? Probably not. However, people forget that suffering and extinction is a part of mother nature. Will our current lifesytle create an environment that will be miserable for humans to live in if livavble at all? Probably. Why not avoid that? Why not focus on new technology to improve our lives? Why make this political? "

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Chicken Little wrote on Mar 28, 2007 12:49 PM:

" The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Save us Al Gore! And punish those who do not believe. Make them pay you for carbon off sets. Make them watch your movie. Make them pay more and get used to having less. "

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eek wrote on Mar 28, 2007 12:48 PM:

" Yes, tempertures flunctuate in cyclic patterns, but the issue is that the entire pattern is increasing. Human beings are sensitive creators and it will only require a slight increase in temperature to impact our lives. There's a huge difference between summers in the 90's and 100's to ones in the 120's. "

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eek wrote on Mar 28, 2007 12:45 PM:

" Whether you like Al Gore or not, global warming is a fact. He didn't invent the internet just like he didn't invent global warming. If you do not like Al Gore go read the thousands of scientific publications from the world's top scientists. Better yet, go breathe your car's exhaust fumes and tell me they aren't bad for you. "

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wiley wrote on Mar 28, 2007 12:03 PM:

" The temperature cycle has happened since the begining of time. The green house gases that we produce are not good to be sure, but one belch from a volcano is far worse. Liberals are self loathing and anti-capitalism. Mankind has been a fine steward of God's resources. "

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Leonard wrote on Mar 28, 2007 11:20 AM:

" WTF: Q: If the world isn't getting hotter than why was the hottest March 29 in history just 3 years ago in 2004? A: The proof is in the averages, taken world wide. Those averages show that the world is warming at an alarming rate. Worldwide, 2006-2007 was the warmest winter in recorded history. "

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Leonard wrote on Mar 28, 2007 11:12 AM:

" Richard: That's a very informative site. I was amused to see that the signatures on the 1997 petition included "BJ Hunnicutt", "Hawkeye Pierce" and "Hot Lips Hoolihan". The whole thing would be a funny joke if the ignorant and the uninformed were not still being duped by it on a daily basis more than a decade later. "

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Richard wrote on Mar 28, 2007 9:50 AM:

" Hicks Check out your source. There is no excuse for intellectual laziness. www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Oregon_Institute_of_Science_and_Medicine "

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wtf wrote on Mar 28, 2007 9:46 AM:

" Question: If we are encountering "Global Warming" how come I froze my a$$ off this winter and my heating bill was through the roof? "

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Stevenson Harding wrote on Mar 28, 2007 9:45 AM:

" The earth warms, the earth cools. The cycle has been happening for billions of years. Man is hypocriticaly arrogant if he thinks he can have any affect on the climate. If the globe is warming, someday it will be cooled. One major volcanic eruption will do more to change the climate of the planet than all the silly pseudo fixes proposed by Gumby Gore. "

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Brian wrote on Mar 28, 2007 8:49 AM:

" This extreme opposite view of global warming is just what the automobile manufacturers were waiting for. All that money spent to control the pollution coming out of cars was just a political agenda. Next thing we'll hear out of the mouths of these babes is their's no need to wear a gas mask in a burning building. We'll see how that sits with the firemen. "

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Brian wrote on Mar 28, 2007 8:42 AM:

" Ralph Nader would probably say their is an extreme opposite view of this matter. It looks like the OIS is saying climate change should not dictate how humans live on the earth and we should just go on doing what we do and not be concerned about the consequences. We'll tell the people of the regions in China that have become arid wastelands because of global warming that their is no need for concern. "

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Daniel wrote on Mar 28, 2007 8:40 AM:

" No, I do not know this person. Mr. Hicks: Ty. "

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Brian wrote on Mar 28, 2007 8:36 AM:

" So now we are to say that the proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology and damage the health and welfare of mankind? I see. If this were to be taken literally by the EPA then all the smog devices on cars would not have been developed some 30 years ago and there never would have been a need to control the amount of polution in the air. I can imagine what L.A. would be like as far as pollution goes if the OIS had their way. "

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Funds or no funds... wrote on Mar 28, 2007 8:35 AM:

" This was a poor use of funds. It is the responsibility of our leaders to provide accountability. This was propoganda at its very best. Why doesn't Lodi buy everyone the "Happy Feet" DVD? Stop using money this way. Grant or no grant, take a position. Or did you? The agenda is being set. "

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T & C wrote on Mar 28, 2007 8:35 AM:

" What business does the city of Lodi have doing the billing for Vaccarezzi and his garbage empire? The same as LEUD probably gets grant money to show this film.This may be a propaganda film in your view but there are others who take it very seriously.I guess there's no particular we here in Lodi live in one of the most polluted areas of the nation. Number 2, I believe. But I do respect your opinion and I haven't agreed either way yet, with much more study and many statistics still to be revealed. "

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Leonard wrote on Mar 28, 2007 7:20 AM:

" What Mr Hick fails to mention is that the petition he cites was circulated almost a decade ago and that most fo the scientists who signed it have since acknowledged the reality of global warming. The truth is most invconvenient for men like Hick. "

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