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Lodi City Council members Susan Hitchcock, left, and Phil Katzakian look over their laptops before beginning a City Council meeting recently. (Whitney Ramirez/News-Sentinel)

Local boards adopt protocols on use of electronic devices

By Kendyce Manguchei
News-Sentinel Staff Writer
Saturday, January 27, 2007 8:11 AM PST

At the start of a recent meeting of the Galt Joint Union High board of trustees, Sue Roberts asked Art Oelsner to turn off his BlackBerry.

Oelsner, however, didn't want to turn the device off and he didn't have to.

The board has no policy about the use of BlackBerries or cell phones during meetings, he said.

After several requests and Roberts' proposal to go into closed session to discuss it, Oelsner, finally settled it. He turned off his BlackBerry.

"I will have both a cell phone and computer on the table at the next meeting," Oelsner told the News-Sentinel last week, via e-mail, from his BlackBerry.

While cell phones and BlackBerries can interrupt meetings with annoying ring tones, there is a growing concern that the devices' discrete messaging functions can be used by officials to circumvent the state's open-meeting laws. A BlackBerry is a handheld wireless device that can, among other uses, make telephone calls, send e-mails and search the Internet.

While no one accused anyone at the Galt meeting of any inappropriate use of technology, the exchange between Oelsner and Roberts illustrates the issue.

"The possibility exists that messaging could take place with computers, cell phones, or even pen and paper," Oelsner said. "'Technology' is not the issue, instead it is really about 'trust.' Do we as board members trust each other not to violate the law?"

School district officials plan to discuss a draft of a brand-new policy when trustees next meet on Feb. 13.

Galt's board is not alone in navigating the appropriateness of high-tech devices and their purpose in public meetings.

"There is going to be propensity for abuse or misuse, whether they intended to or not," said Debbie Olson, the Central Valley representative of the League of California Cities.

Text-messaging can be used for legitimate and useful reasons, such as a pregnant wife sending a message to her councilman husband her water just broke.

Just as easily, and without anyone guessing otherwise, three of the five council members could pull out their cell phones under the dais and decide to approve a controversial new ordinance without any public debate.

Some online resources

While technology has rasied some concerns with public meetings, it has also broadened the access for residents seeking information about government:

http://www.granicus.com/clients — Granicus, Inc. live and on-demand video and audio from U.S. cities

http://www.lodi.gov.broadcasts — Lodi City Council meeting videos http://www.ci.galt.ca.us — Click on "Agendas and Minutes" http://www.elkgrovecity.org — Videos, click on 'City Council' http://www.stockton.gov/citycouncil — City of Stockton audio/video archives.

— News-Sentinel staff

It's no different than those same council members plotting their votes over coffee before a public hearing. Both are forbidden by California's open-meeting law, the Brown Act.

No one has alleged that local officials are engaging in such activities, and it isn't clear if any such offenses have occurred in the state.

Local elected officials and staff agreed that a request at meetings to turn off cell phones is first an exercise in common courtesy to prevent distractions. Distraction or not, turning off electronic devices can also prevent possible violations of the Brown Act, legal experts said.

In a 2001 legal opinion, California Attorney General Bill Lockyer said that "a majority of board members may not e-mail each other to develop a collective concurrence as to action to be taken by the board ..." even if the e-mails are sent to staff and are reported on at the next public meeting.

The state's Fair Political Practices Commission doesn't lodge complaints about the use of technology or potentially improper communications that might be Brown Act violations. The District Attorney's office would, though staff in San Joaquin County said they haven't had to enforce it.

Jim Ewert, an attorney who specializes in open-meeting laws and is counsel for the California Newspaper Publishers Association, said it's not illegal for elected officials to use cell phones or BlackBerries during meetings.

"It's not prohibited, but that doesn't make it a good idea," he said.

Ewert said some enlightened city councils have taken heed of the Attorney General's admonition, to prevent communication that is "one of a series that could lead to a collective concurrence of the body."

In 2003, the city of Lodi provided each council member with a laptop, and prohibited them from accessing the Internet and e-mail during public meetings. Council members don't have e-mail programs on their computers.

In 2006, the guideline was adopted as protocol for the council, but not other boards.

City Attorney Stephen Schwabauer said that while the term "e-mail" in the city's protocol manual doesn't specifically include other "e-mail style communications" like text messaging, that was the intent.


Lodi City Attorney Stephen Schwabauer looks over his laptop before a City Council meeting. (Whitney Ramirez/News-Sentinel)

Schwabauer said he sometimes uses his BlackBerry during open session, if he's not actively offering his opinion on legal issues.

"The reason I have a BlackBerry is because it allows me to multitask and I can do something else, be productive with my time," Schwabauer said "I think the public expects their elected representatives are paying attention."

Council member Susan Hitchcock said she couldn't remember any council member using a phone or other device during meetings.

"I think it would be an interruption of the process," she said.

Hitchcock said the worst offense is "the council member who forgets to turn it off, and they'd get embarrassed if it rings. Not that they'd ever consider answering it."

Mayor Bob Johnson considers any communication about items not on the agenda as rude and not in the best spirit of being an elected official.

"If we can't say it publicly in front of God and everybody else then we shouldn't be saying it. As a council we should be priding ourselves on as much transparency as we can get" Johnson said. "Everything that we have going on at a public meeting should be open."

Lodi Unified School District's board of trustees president, Ken Davis, said he asks trustees to turn off their phones or pagers, but couldn't recall the use of such devices being brought up as a concern.

Contact reporter Kendyce Manguchei at kendycem@lodinews.com.

First published: Saturday, January 27, 2007

Reader Feedback

oh wrote on Feb 3, 2007 12:03 PM:

" Teach-I have a reading and spelling disorder.I have to deal with it with all the time.But it doesn't mean that I don't know what I'am talking about or that I'am stupid!My kids are grown and have a collage ed!They have kids now and I hope that their kids have teachers and not Baby sitters at school!So what was your point in bashing me? "

1st Grade Teacher wrote on Feb 3, 2007 9:50 AM:

" Oh, I gave you credit for being knowledgeable. It shows the importance of ones being able to express themselves so that others will listen and take them seriously. I don't know if you have children but I'd bet you're insisting that they do well in school. As you should! "

oh wrote on Feb 2, 2007 9:55 PM:

" Hey teach I don't blog for you to test me!I hated school!Is frist grade the best you can do?How come you are not a professor.Little kids are easier for you to be superior to? "

oh wrote on Feb 2, 2007 9:42 PM:

" Hey teach you don't have to spell to be wise!You just have to live a little and learn!Do the first graders teach you a lot about things?Get out to the real world and find out!I know what I speak about you just don't like it! "

OTH wrote on Feb 2, 2007 6:16 PM:

" 1st Grade Teacher......Just because oh does not spell or speak well does not mean he has no knowledge of what he's talking about. It means he's had a lousy education but it does not mean he is illiterate. "

sam wrote on Feb 2, 2007 5:35 PM:

" T&A, the Langes have class and heart. I live on Armstrong and when Hitchcock tried to push her SOI thru to take over our land, the Langes showed their support. It was not their fight, yet they came to show their support for fellow farmers. I love them for that. Thank you Langes. "

1st Grade Teacher wrote on Feb 2, 2007 1:30 PM:

" Oh, you would fail my class. For someone who knows so much how is it possible you have no ability to spell or put together a sentence. It's very difficult to take you seriously. "

oh wrote on Feb 1, 2007 11:33 PM:

" Look what happend to that Shelly Lady!Why does it not happen to these public employees when they misuse are money?It seems like stealing to me! "

oh wrote on Feb 1, 2007 10:55 PM:

" T&A-Are you that stupid they certainly are!Char was paid a large amount of money for that 118 thousand a year!And now paid the rest of her life for doing nothing.I would rather have a smaller City Bill.Then to have HSS hanging over us.To bad Char but that is the way it is!By the way we still owe 8 millon!We do not like that WALL out front if anything steps and pillars!That is what the community expected!Less your personal name on it! "

T&A wrote on Feb 1, 2007 1:35 PM:

" Sam, you're right! And the Lange's are wonderful members of our community. Hutchins Street Square wouldn't have been completed without Charlene. It just tickles me when T&C is caught between a rock and a hard place. "

sam wrote on Feb 1, 2007 7:46 AM:

" T&A, I just love seeing Lodi and our gorgeous vineyards on the national news. T&C can appreciate that kind of pride even if he does not care for the spokes person. "

T&A wrote on Feb 1, 2007 5:50 AM:

" Sam, T&C considers the Lange Twins part of the "good ol boyz" club. This kind of publicity really upsets him. "

sam wrote on Jan 30, 2007 6:37 PM:

" Hey check out Lodi and the Lang's on national news...http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16892783/ "

T&A wrote on Jan 30, 2007 7:53 AM:

" T&C, could you please tell me what specific allegations have been reported to the Grand Jury? Thanks. "

T & C wrote on Jan 30, 2007 6:43 AM:

" Hitchcock is only the tip of the iceburg and the others as well as some management and city staff are also being considered. The good ole boyz are coming into play, too. Gonna look like the "Scooter" Libby trial, with everyone tattling on one another to save their own skin. Rome is about to fall. "

sam wrote on Jan 29, 2007 7:09 PM:

" Great post OTH. By the way, you all, T&C and Tom do not veer far from the truth. I have been to Lodi's CC meetings and often wonder what they are doing on their laptops while citizens talk. Very wrong and disrespectful. I too have heard that Hitch has been reported to the Grand Jury. Tom, I heard it was over 30 complaints filed against her. "

OTH wrote on Jan 29, 2007 8:23 AM:

" TO Blogger......So what if T&C ran for city council, did it occur to you his initials might not be T&C? Or are you smart enough to figure that out? Just quit your bitchin and skip to the next posting. "

smokeater8 wrote on Jan 29, 2007 8:15 AM:

" I am surprised, since Mr. Oelsner is so "tech" savy, that he has not logged on and let his opinions be heard. Maybe he can't figure out how to use a "blog". "

smokeater8 wrote on Jan 29, 2007 8:09 AM:

" It's pretty obvious that people who are throwing stones against Pat Maple and Sue Roberts don't come to the Board meetings or have a clue what either has done for this distrcit. Come to a meeting and find out what goes on! Then you can casts stones, if you wish. Your ignorance shows by your comments. "

Rock and Roll wrote on Jan 28, 2007 11:56 PM:

" Dear pat hope the ice cream is going better then this column! seem's there is a lot of fat here. LOL remember this forum is a great starting point to see if others feal the same way. by using this Blog we can unite or discover the opinions of the public in anycase its democracy at its best.Thanks LNS "

LOL wrote on Jan 28, 2007 9:38 PM:

" Pretty sure Sue Roberts can't afford a blackberry, and wouldn't know how to use one if she did have it. "

T & C wrote on Jan 28, 2007 4:51 PM:

" Those laptops are bought and paid for by us Lodi taxpayers. They are not a personal business tool or to structure their "back door" deals with realtors, developers, builders or anyone else. Any information should be public information, even if used for private purposes. "

Pat Maple wrote on Jan 28, 2007 4:50 PM:

" From Penn State University..my son and I are here learning how to make ice cream. Derogatory others: Government Codes require all meetings be posted including telecommunicated ones. Remote location receiving and sending information: the entire Board is entitled to the information (Gov Code 54950). S/R personal information violates Board by-laws. TRUST is EARNED Bully-blowharding doesn't do it. TRUST is a derivitive of truth. Not much coming from the other side. Get some guts and use your real name when attacking someone else. Otherwise you are nothing more than an masked idiot rock chucker. "

T & C wrote on Jan 28, 2007 4:24 PM:

" You're so right, Tom, and thanks for clarifying things a bit. It's not only the laptops, but whenever there's an important debate or topic, it's like the CC members and management have a squelch button and the sounds continually goes out in those webcast CC meetings. There are constant complaints about this matter, also, but no action taken. They say it's an ongoing "in house" problem. This city is ready for the big fall. They'll start snitching soon to save their own skin. "

Tom wrote on Jan 28, 2007 1:32 PM:

" I have attended many Lodi CC meetings and I find their constant use of their laptops disrespectful to the people in attendance. I too get the feeling by watching their faces that they are emailing comments back and forth. Sorry, Hitchcock has lost my respect forever. I would not put it past her to email comments to fellow members during a meeting. "

Tom wrote on Jan 28, 2007 1:31 PM:

" Blogger, I would love for Sue Hitchcock to get on the blog and tell you that she is NOT being investigated by the Grand Jury for her illegal actions in controlling the Planning Commission. She has been reported by over 2 dozen concerned citizens. T&C just speaks the truth. He may go over the top at times, but he is right in criticizing this CC. "

galt resident wrote on Jan 28, 2007 1:15 PM:

" Message to "LOL" Why don't you ask Mr. Oelsner who he was text messaging to in the audience and ask him what they were texting about? They were texting on how to influence decisions in the board meeting and how to proceed with the board meeting. Whoever you are, you don't have the facts! "

Galt resident wrote on Jan 28, 2007 1:13 PM:

" In response to "LOL"'s message: Sue Roberts is not jealous of using a black berry or a lap top. She started the technology program in the late 1970's and brought computers to Galt High School. She trained thousands of students on word processing and computer programming for over 25 years. She also placed students in jobs that required knowledge of computer programs. It is common courtesy to give full attention at public meetings and not to have disruption of electronic devices/ sidebar conversations. "

To: Rock and Roll wrote on Jan 28, 2007 12:17 PM:

" You are correct that every citizen has the right to question City officials and expect answers. This isn't the proper forum. Don't know why anyone would have a problem confronting a City official eye to eye. They certainly have no obligation to answer anyone on this site. "

T & C wrote on Jan 28, 2007 12:10 PM:

" I don't one single council member, management staff or employee rebutting these facts. I still want to know why the 2005 audit is going to take a year to "fix" before it's presentable. E-mail your council people and ask these questions and see if you get an answer back. JoAnne Mounce is the only one who's responded and her hands are tied. The good ole boyz make sure of that. "

T & C wrote on Jan 28, 2007 12:04 PM:

" Not one has the gumption to answer these issues, either on these blogs or in public, because as soon as the problem is admitted to the public, then it belongs to us citizens to know about it and take appropriate action. If many of our US representatives have gone to prison, then what leaves Lodi's puppets from the same fate. One will soon talk for immunity, as the story goes. You're the ones that can't sleep at night, not me. Their little city laptop is their best friend. Business use, too. "

T & C wrote on Jan 28, 2007 11:59 AM:

" The CC and management read AND post on these bolgs defending themselves, like myself with an anonymous name. They are well aware of the these same problems and you know as I do, that if they admit that , they're done. Looks like they paid Dixon Flynn to shut up on these blogs or maybe used another one of their tactics, like an old business card or something to that effect. You are so naive! "

blogger wrote on Jan 28, 2007 11:07 AM:

" T & C: If you have all this evidence of corruption on the City Council why not go to the Grand Jury. If you are right then charges will be brought against the guilty. Until you do something concrete you will continue to be labeled a whiner, a complainer, and someone full of hot air or Baloney Saugages. "

Doc Holliday wrote on Jan 28, 2007 10:55 AM:

" Sue, Why don't you just get on with the meeting and stop all the whining about the use of technology....Next thing you will want to stop using is the recording of the meetings, the use of a microphone, lights and heating the joint....those are technologies that are used during the meetings....but those are OK right?....Why not just go and get a blackberry of your own.... "

LOL wrote on Jan 28, 2007 2:29 AM:

" Sue Roberts & her buddy Maple are just a bunch of whiners who are simply jealous that they're so computer illiterate, they don't even know HOW to use a blackberry or a laptop. "

Rock and Roll wrote on Jan 28, 2007 12:59 AM:

" Freedom Of Information Act entitles you to ask for this information. you must put it in writing. certify it and send it to city hall. this will eliminate the personal innuendoes here. "

Rock and Roll wrote on Jan 28, 2007 12:52 AM:

" Lodi CC and Staff have an obligation to answer T&C.it is clear he is a tax paying citizen asking for information he is Entitled to. "FOIA" Stop his rants and raves and offer the public the books. Mayor you know the public has a concern! do your Job. theres nothing to hide Right. "

David D wrote on Jan 28, 2007 12:45 AM:

" These meetings can last for four or five hours, and often city employees like the City Attorney don't need to participate yet must still be there the entire time. I'm glad that they can make better use of their time checking their email on their devices. "

To chapter 20 wrote on Jan 27, 2007 7:47 PM:

" How is Mr. Oelsner, by using a computer or cell phone, bringing fairness to the board? You were obviously not at the 1st meeting where he continually turned his computer on and off while others were talking. He is a baby who can't stand to listen to anything he disagrees with and who has to have his toys to play with! "

CW wrote on Jan 27, 2007 7:44 PM:

" I wish the LNS would refuse to print TC's baseless accusations unless he can show some specific facts or evidence.I and others keep asking for specifics and TC has yet to provide one fact. I too am waiting for him to run for the cc. Its easier to take pot shots at others from the cheap seats. "

T & C wrote on Jan 27, 2007 6:07 PM:

" From what I've seen blogger, you're not anywhere near being a blogger, only one who can only criticize and stick up for the corrupt city officials, as if you are one of them. Let's hear you say something wworth listening to. I'm not the only one who knows this little good ole boyz government is corrupt. "

T & C wrote on Jan 27, 2007 6:04 PM:

" blogger, you always say the same thing over and over. You are the same person posting as to t &c. Get over it and do some research for yourself if you're not a CC or management puppet. Don't like it, don't read it. You're just defending yourself and your guilty conscience. Shame on you! "

blogger wrote on Jan 27, 2007 5:19 PM:

" T & C's favorite response to any kind of criticism is to acuse you of being on the City Council or a high ranked city employee. "

blogger wrote on Jan 27, 2007 5:17 PM:

" to: to T&C I have been trying to get T & C to run for council since the last election, but as always he is full of accusations, whines, inuendos and as my late brother in law used to say Baloney Sausage. He is good comic relief. "

ed. activist wrote on Jan 27, 2007 4:15 PM:

" Bravo Sue Roberts!! One of the very few in the Galt comm. who is willing to stand up against arrogance and ignorance (yes, Art that's you.) "

educationisforkids wrote on Jan 27, 2007 3:36 PM:

" Gee, there was a time when Mr. Oelsner and company talked about all the alleged behind the scenes happenings on the GHS board. But his current actions now as a board member as well as his history with the district just continue to illustrate the true person behind the facade. Someone with his hand in the cookie jar; got caught; and now wants to get even. Wake up Galt community! Kids' education is at stake. "

To T & C wrote on Jan 27, 2007 1:07 PM:

" Your ignorance is at its very best if you continue to tortue yourself by always reading them. You are, indeed, one of the CC defending yourself. "

T & C wrote on Jan 27, 2007 1:05 PM:

" You're funny. It's the council that hides behind their computers. I'd trade them hard drives for the weekend anytime, just to see what's really on them. Katzakian looks like he's playing solitaire on his during the CC meetings. I'm still waiting for him to speak and tell us all about those great ideas he has for Lodi that he based his campaign on. "

Chapter 20 wrote on Jan 27, 2007 11:00 AM:

" Mr. Oelsner is only trying to prevent what has continued to happen at Galt High for the last 20 years. Bring about fairness and stop policies that continue to favor certain programs. The board should not be trusted. "

CW wrote on Jan 27, 2007 10:31 AM:

" We are still waiting for the facts, specific incidents and evidence to support your allegations TC. Will you ever provide specific information or just more allegations? "

sactown wrote on Jan 27, 2007 10:24 AM:

" How arrogant of that attorney to have his blackberry on at a meeting. If he doesn't have the time to do the job, then get off the council. His focus should be on the meeting. Afterall, I am sure he didn't go into this thinking he was going to be able to "multi task" during the meetings by using his blackberry. Get real Mr. Schwabauer and all others who feel the need to "multitask" during the meetings. "

smokeater8 wrote on Jan 27, 2007 10:17 AM:

" If Mr. Oelsner continues to use a Blackberry or laptop, he is showing what many of us have known for sometime. He has no respect for other board members, the office to which he was elected or to the public which elected him. It may be legal, but it is unethical,and distracting. Mr. Oelsner continues to act like a child and needs to grow up! "

to t & c wrote on Jan 27, 2007 10:08 AM:

" Please save us all and run for office !All you do is complain and bad mouth. What a pleasant person."Cowtown,,"good olboys" "corrupt","naive",do something about it besides whine! "

to T & C wrote on Jan 27, 2007 9:40 AM:

" from same name, ignorant best describes your blogs, hope my spelling is correct, you hide behind your computer and make untrue accusations, I still think you would be much happier in a different town or join the good old boyz club yourself "

T & C wrote on Jan 27, 2007 8:50 AM:

" So, good ole boyz, that's what I heard at that meeting, so prove me wrong. The council hasn't the gumption to stand up and say it because it'll prove how corrupt this cowtown really is. It'd be fresh to see some new bloggers refute me instead of the same one with so many names. How do you spell n-a-i-v-e? "

T & C wrote on Jan 27, 2007 8:45 AM:

" Anyone who attended or watched the CC meeting 3 weeks ago heard the council state that the 2005 audit has major flaws and problems and an outside company has been hired to fix it. When asked at the meeting how long it'd take, they responded that it could as much as a year. Then, as usual, the sound went into garble mode and most of what else was said was understandable. "

T & C wrote on Jan 27, 2007 8:42 AM:

" Those are city-owned computers and ALL information on them belongs to the public. If they need to use their computers at city meetings and functions, then the information they access should be shown on their "fancy" presentation system for all to see. Just more secrecy for the corrupt city council. Let's see what's on those computers? Is that bogus 2005 audit on there? Please tell us citizens what's wrong with that 2005 audit! "

OTH wrote on Jan 27, 2007 8:21 AM:

" Mr Schwaubauer if you have to use your blackbery at a council meeting, stay home you're not that important. None of you are. "

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