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What can you really do with a college degree?

Updated: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:18 AM PDT

High school graduation: "I now present to you the class of ... ." From that moment forward, young people are on their own for the very first time. Young people begin to take on all the responsibility of an adult life, all the stresses of owning their life and growing as a member of society. The kids have now been raised into young adults, and their future is up to them. Yeah, right.

For today's average young adult things are different. Higher education has replaced just getting a good job with a high school diploma. Colleges have evolved from something only elite, preppy white males do, to the norm for all young people, despite gender or race everywhere.

Let's face it, without a degree, what can you really do in today's world? Then again, what can you really do with a degree in today's world?

It's something that has been proven time and time again. Junior goes off to college, spends five years getting his bachelors of subject matter, moves back home to start his new life and quickly finds out that he just wasted the last five years of his life trying to obtain a degree that is getting him nowhere except the job he could have received right out of high school at entry level.

Of course, not all degrees fail people, many help folks succeed. But there are plenty of young adults in Lodi and across this country that are hitting a job market that simply has no room but at the bottom for them.

Now that college has been welded into Americans minds as "the thing to do," what happens to those young people that know what they want to do, but because mom and dad are paying they spend years going after a degree they don't want or need?

This is true for one young Lodi woman by the name of "Amanda." Amanda is in a slump. She, unlike many other people her college age, knows what she wants in life. The problem according to Amanda: her parents also know what they want from her life, and that's a degree.

Amanda wants to take up cosmetology school and in two years be done with it.

"However, I am unable to go to school for that now because I have to get my degree from a school that has barely any credibility," Amanda said, adding, "(I am) majoring in a degree that I have no interest in and bores me to death while my parents pay thousands of dollars for four years when I could just go to cosmetology school for year, maybe two and begin my life. I just feel like I'm wasting my time here."

Here's the real question parents ought to be asking themselves. Are my kids in college because they want to be, or is it because they have to be? As I've observed, most parents shoot their youngin's off after the cap has been thrown without giving things a second glance.

Amanda continues: "I understand that it is important to have a degree under your belt, but I don't understand why everyone is expected to go to college the second (they) graduate from high school."

As I've heard said many times, you only get one life, use it wisely. And while many young people graduate from colleges every year in broad-based majors hoping that they might be able to find something they want to do for the rest of their life, there are thousands that still don't know what to do.

Certainly college has its perks, right?

"The lifestyle isn't bad, who could complain about having their room and board paid for while living on your own far away from home. I know I can't. It's just the fact that I am being forced here against my will," said Amanda.

Amanda is one of those people I referenced above as majoring in something rather broad so she might be able to use the degree at some point in her future if need be, but cosmetology and a family is what Amanda says is on her mind for the future.

Another negative for Amanda is what she calls a corrupt college system where opinions of professors and alcohol are all that matter. "You learn nothing but how to do keg stands and defend your opinion to closed minded people," said Amanda.

Amanda admits that she feels very fortunate to have a family that supports her, but she has grown increasingly aware that she is wasting her time and her parents' money. So the questions remain: How many other young adults are on this exact same route in life? How many young adults know what they want and a college career is just getting in the way? How many parents think they know what's best for their kids, even if their kids don't think it's best?

Wade Heath is a college student and editor of the Lodi Youth Perspective: http://www.youthlodi.blogspot.com. He can be reached at: reachwade@lycos.com.

First published: Tuesday, September 19, 2006

Reader Feedback

Disgusted wrote on Sep 27, 2006 7:37 AM:

" Wade, as a follow-up to this article, it might be interesting to write one on the current research completed by the University of Connecticut regarding the utter lack of understanding by US HS and University students on the topics of US Civics and History. While some students might not be the right material for a University, wouldn't it make sense that we need citizens that understand how our government works, why it works the way it does, and how we as citizens interact in that process? "

nylodian wrote on Sep 25, 2006 12:18 PM:

" Lodian: good point. I truly believe one shouldn't knock college until they experience it. Your friends's experiences are their own, not yours. A lot of it has to do with what you put into the opportunity. "

Lodian wrote on Sep 24, 2006 12:13 AM:

" Krista: You have to understand that sometimes a kid just doesn't know what he doesn't know! He may get to college and enjoy it and take to it like a duck to water. This is an individual decision, but parents help a lot in the decision as they know their kids the best. I can site a few times where my child maybe didn't want to do something and I signed him up anyway...yep, you guessed it...he loved the activity. "

Lodian wrote on Sep 24, 2006 12:12 AM:

" Krista K.: Some kids do not know what they want to do in life yet. They are only 17 when they graduate from high school. Some are even younger than that as they are still a bit immature. What advice would you give a kid that doesn't know what he wants but doesn't think he should go to college? (con't) "

Krista K. wrote on Sep 23, 2006 7:51 PM:

" I think that young people who know what they want to do should be able to do it. Why waste everyones time and money in trying to do something that will never be worth it in the life of the person it matters the most to? "

Roger wrote on Sep 23, 2006 7:35 PM:

" Thank you Happy Days Johnson. "

Lodian wrote on Sep 23, 2006 2:04 PM:

" Krista Kaller: Do you think high school grads today should skip college all-together? What path do you see all of them taking? "

Krista Kaller wrote on Sep 22, 2006 11:42 PM:

" I normally agree with Wades writings and this time is no different, Ive seen way too many of my friends waste their parents hard earned money on years of schooling that means nothing today. "

Lodian wrote on Sep 22, 2006 11:26 PM:

" nylodian: Excellent point! "

nylodian wrote on Sep 22, 2006 6:27 PM:

" I'm gonna get yelled at for this, but remember when college was considered a privilege? There are kids out there who WANT to go to college, but their parents don't have the money to "push them off".(Remember not to use goose down with the tar and feathers, I'm allergic,ha ha). "

Janna Richards wrote on Sep 22, 2006 1:04 PM:

" Another well done article by Wade and something all adults need to think about before pushing their kids off to college. "

Agree w Lodian wrote on Sep 22, 2006 10:13 AM:

" Yeah, I'm confused as to why everyone continues to cite Wade as the subject of the column when it was only about "Amanda". Who are we talking about here? "

Lodian wrote on Sep 22, 2006 9:16 AM:

" Are some of you confused as to which blog you are reading/posting? "

Disgusted wrote on Sep 22, 2006 8:46 AM:

" Good point Dixon. If you're not sure what you want to do with your life the military is a great place to get amazing experience that is respected by employeers and your fellow citizens, learn about the world (up close and personal) and help pay for an education when you recognize that you really do need to go to college. "

E. wrote on Sep 22, 2006 8:30 AM:

" 4 A Strong Lodi: You're right on the money there. After getting my degree (in molecular biology) a year ago, I found I was unemployable in Lodi or SJ county. There was no other choice but to move to the city for better job options/money/infrastructure. San Joaquin county needs to a find better revenue stream than the typical valley standard of strip malls and subdivisions. "

Happy Days wrote on Sep 22, 2006 8:27 AM:

" DR Horton pulled out of two hi-rise condos in Sacto, plus th waterfront condos, then Natomas developer pulled from a project too. Gillespie won't get any home builders for RR, see the writing on the wall, pull his portion, and BS will go to Sktn like they want to anyhow. "

Happy Days wrote on Sep 22, 2006 8:25 AM:

" You don't need a BA/MBA fro General Mills or Blue Shield. Get real people. This guy is talking a business degree w/grad school. I doubt he's gonna work for $40k a year and call it a success story! "

Happy Days wrote on Sep 22, 2006 8:20 AM:

" OMG! I agree with Dixon (ewww). :) Take a couple of years, I think as low as 2 in the Army, and serve something other than yourself because it's the right thing to do. It will teach you more about life than any classroom. Semper Fi! "

Dixon wrote on Sep 22, 2006 12:11 AM:

" Wade, I thought what you wrote was thoughful and provocative. Graduating from HIgh School, not sure what to do next, what you want to do the rest of your life is tough. If you who need time to grow up, learn some discipline and see what the world is about, join the military. "

Gone wrote on Sep 21, 2006 6:18 PM:

" 4 A Strong Lodi, if that is what you believe, don't vote for Hitchcock. Against Blue Shield, against General Mills, and against job growth unless if is help for her husband's rental properties. "

MCD wrote on Sep 21, 2006 5:08 PM:

" Colleges are no more and no less corrupt than any other organization. It's made up of human beings. Some take their job seriously and perform it thoughfully. Some are just crap. Most are in between. And what's wrong with having to defend your opinion? Isn't that the point? Or do you expect to be handed your degree? As with anything worthwhile, you have to show up, participate - actually do the work - for a quality education. "

4 A Strong Lodi wrote on Sep 21, 2006 2:35 PM:

" I have a bachelors and masters degree in business from reputable schools, but this education does me no good in Lodi or San Joaquin County. I must commute to Sacramento or the Bay Area to find work. I sure wish our elected officals would try to grow our economy instead of stalling it so I can live here AND work here. "

JD wrote on Sep 21, 2006 2:28 PM:

" Unfortunately now a degree isn't enough...that's why I am starting my masters in the Fall. "

Passerby wrote on Sep 21, 2006 1:19 PM:

" Corrupt system? Understatement. It's what I hate about college the most. Amanda is right, your grade is based on how well you can defend your opinion to the person who gives the grade. "

Happy Days wrote on Sep 21, 2006 1:09 PM:

" Good Article Wade. Sorry you're getting flamed as a writer. People should do whatever they wish to do. College is not a requirement. MAke your choice and live with it. She could be a hairdresser, pilot, CHP Officer, military NCO, master mechanic, a million things that are worthwhile. "

Cal wrote on Sep 21, 2006 12:40 PM:

" Amanda needs to see that college is something she needs, not something she has to do. Get it? By the way, Wade, your writing is full of humor and I love it. "

Lodian wrote on Sep 21, 2006 9:52 AM:

" nylodian: Good point. "

nylodian wrote on Sep 21, 2006 7:20 AM:

" "Amanda" can take some business classes so that not only can she become a cosmotologist, but she can SUCCESSFULLY own and run her own business. "

nylodian wrote on Sep 21, 2006 7:18 AM:

" Just an observation I've made: there are a LOT of 30 and 40-somethings going to college now because they want better careers to support their families. Kids: go now, while it's easier and you will have something to fall back on later. "

Fo Sho wrote on Sep 20, 2006 9:50 PM:

" No doubt Wade's going to college and will make something of himself, but as said before not everyone is a right fit for college and I think the more we weed out peeps like Amanda the quicker those who are there for a reason will have a better chance at learning. "

mouse wrote on Sep 20, 2006 6:58 PM:

" "Youngin's"? What part of the country are you from Wade, Mule Snout, U.S.A.? Maybe they ain't got none of them thar colleges down yonder. Maybe that's why you didn't go to college. Not all parents "shoot their youngin's off to college". Some kids do make that choice for themselves. "

Sam wrote on Sep 20, 2006 6:26 PM:

" I paid for my BS degrees and my graduate degrees. It was NOT the degree I was chasing, it was the knowledge. Money well spent! Both my kids wanted to go to college and I helped finance that. They too chased the knowledge, not the paper degrees! Attending college to get a paper degree is worthless. Go for the knowledge! Or don't waste your time and money. "

To Wade wrote on Sep 20, 2006 6:13 PM:

" One of the best columns you've written! I enjoy learning more about what young people are feeling, especially when my teen is heading to college soon. I think all parents need to chat with their kids before senior year to see what the kids want to do. "

jqq...continued wrote on Sep 20, 2006 2:35 PM:

" I always knew that I had to go to college because I wanted to have a "good" job where I did not have to work weekends, I wanted to chose a position where I could spend time with my family, and make a reasonable living while still living in LODI! College is not for everyone...but if you / your parents have the means I recommend you give it a shot! "

jqq wrote on Sep 20, 2006 2:33 PM:

" My Mom would always say that I worked so hard to get through college and that it must have been tough...truth is, college was a four and a half year vacation (typical for engineering students at Cal Poly SLO). Don't Get me wrong...I worked my *ss off! "

College or No wrote on Sep 20, 2006 2:26 PM:

" I got a degree with the help of my parents. I got it in what I wanted but now that I'm nearly 30 and in the work force I'm doing something completely different. However, having a Bachelor's degree got me the high paying job that I have. It didn't matter what it was in. The fact that I did it is enough. My kids will go to college. They will get a Bachelor's degree or better. "

LRR wrote on Sep 20, 2006 12:17 PM:

" What's that saying, 50% of what you learn at college is not in the classroom. It's about being independent, making decisions and working out a plan. College shouldn't be a cake walk and I don't believe all individuals are college material. I really worry about the ones who are capable but find a reason not to attend. It's really sad to watch a young person with so much potential waste their lives for instant gratification. "

Mom (the original) wrote on Sep 20, 2006 9:55 AM:

" As the mother of a U.C. Berkeley student, I actually worry that after four years of college my daughter may not end up as well off as her counterparts that went directly into the work force. It will depend on her choices when she graduates from college. I pray that she makes the right choices. College graduates need to make their futures happen - just having a college degree won't do it unless they get out there and seek their own way in life from what they have learned. "

DMC wrote on Sep 20, 2006 9:32 AM:

" eek: Good point as well. "

Lodian wrote on Sep 20, 2006 9:27 AM:

" Disgusted: I have to agree with you regarding high school and the lack of what is being taught there these days. Half the kids do not want to be there and therefore make it almost unbearable at times for the ones that are trying to do well. Some teachers are burned out and don't want to be there either so a kid that is trying to do well has a huge task ahead of them. It's not easy at these high schools today. "

DMC wrote on Sep 20, 2006 9:23 AM:

" Jerry: Nice work - my thoughts exactly! "

college parent wrote on Sep 20, 2006 9:22 AM:

" To gee: Is that sarcasm on your part or are you proving that you can't spell? With those skills, I doubt any college would accept you. "

Lodian wrote on Sep 20, 2006 9:22 AM:

" To "To Disgusted":Those are few and far between. Most young adults these days need a degree to even get in the door. Not saying it's always the right way to do business,but it sure seems to be the way of the world today.I must say that the grads with degrees today are definitely not the grads of yesterday. More and more grads are burned out and without a lot of spark.Another big problem is the drop in males applying to colleges.I think there is a crisis with our males and education right now, but that's a whole other topic. "

Lodian wrote on Sep 20, 2006 9:04 AM:

" Jenny: Perhaps you would have been happier at a different school. Most people do not regret getting their college degree and a few more years to grow up. "

eek wrote on Sep 20, 2006 8:11 AM:

" Choosing to go to college and graduate school were the two best decisions I have made. I would not be where I am in the professional world had I not gone. But it was a choice. If Amanda does not like school and feels she knows better than her parents why doesn't she act like an adult, stop receiving their financial support, and make her own life? She is not a "victim" here and does not get my sympathy. "

mad dog wrote on Sep 20, 2006 6:51 AM:

" Inside the sarcasm of "disgusted", is the truth. "

Disgusted wrote on Sep 19, 2006 9:40 PM:

" Yes, I agree David D. "Real world" experience is better in certain areas. Trades are a great example. It's too bad that the US educational system doesn't split kids off earlier into career tracks. That way, by the end of HS, if you're not geared toward college you've got a skill. "

gee wrote on Sep 19, 2006 9:37 PM:

" Some people are to smart for ARE own good! "

Whoa Nellie! wrote on Sep 19, 2006 9:08 PM:

" Same arguement 25-30yrs later that my friends had with their parents. Some went to Delta, others straight to a "real" college/university, and others into the working world. The fact is NOW it is even more important to have a college education. "

college parent wrote on Sep 19, 2006 8:47 PM:

" To Disgusted and MCD: You are both right on the money! "

double J wrote on Sep 19, 2006 7:53 PM:

" Nice work, Wade. Thanks for bringing to light what a lot of young people feel right now. I hope Amanda and her parents will be able to work this out. Then again, it's their money! "

Hey Disgusted wrote on Sep 19, 2006 7:42 PM:

" Ture that! That's pretty smart of him. "

Jerry wrote on Sep 19, 2006 6:59 PM:

" I agree that college is not for everyone. Many students struggle to get out of high school. Those people may not be college material. However, if one has the desire to truly learn, anyone can go to college. "

Jerry wrote on Sep 19, 2006 6:57 PM:

" Wade, is this how you really feel? Why are YOU going to college? Do you have plans on becoming a real journalist? Is this the best your writing skills can produce or will they improve through classes? "

not disgusted wrote on Sep 19, 2006 5:28 PM:

" I completely understand where she was coming from. Sure you need a college degree but maybe right now she feels there could other things she would rather do right now insted of jumping right into a major and then a career. She can always go back to college when she feels ready. People need to live their lives these days rather than be shoved into a hasty dission about a career. "

Disgusted wrote on Sep 19, 2006 4:49 PM:

" Oh, and way to go Wade. I can't say I ever thought of writing an article like this to cut down on the compeition for post-college jobs. Way to do some forward thinking! College is clearly paying off for you! "

David D wrote on Sep 19, 2006 4:24 PM:

" Irony is when you are a teacher and don't have a college degree. Yet, my peers respect me, and I was hired, because I have the hands-on experience from the "real world" which in many ways is better than a college education. College is not for everyone, and not everyone who goes to college is guaranteed a successful life. Education and experience can both be very useful and rewarding, opening up new doors for you. "

E. wrote on Sep 19, 2006 3:37 PM:

" Most people don't know what to "do" while in college and that feeling carries on loooong after graduation. Amanda is lucky for knowning exactly what she wants to do, but it sounds like she has control issues she needs to work out with her parents. If she's an adult and is forntunate enough to have vision at such a young age, her parents should respect that. However, if one REALLY wants to leave Lodi, college is your best bet (worked for me!) "

Disgusted wrote on Sep 19, 2006 3:05 PM:

" Well, if you're smart enough to start a company like Apple or Microsoft (people like that are out there) then go be successful. However, there's about a .00000001% chance of that. The chance of getting a good job with a college degree is somewhat higher than that. But again, don't go to college. I need people to make my burgers, build my house, wash my car, etc. etc. You choose what you want to do, and society will decide how to value what you offer. "

MCD wrote on Sep 19, 2006 2:50 PM:

" So what's stopping "Amanda" from taking charge of her life? I suspect she lives at home and can't go against Mom & Dad's wishes while they continue to support her. Hard to have sympathy for her in that situation. Life is all about choices and consequences and nothing is free. If "Amanda" doesn't see moving out and supporting yourself as worth the price of adulthood, then she needs to stop complaining. Leave college to those who see its value and are willing to do what it takes to achieve a better standard for themselves. "

Disgusted wrote on Sep 19, 2006 2:14 PM:

" I didn't know what I wanted to do "with" my life either. That's not the point of college. The point is to 1) prove that you can get through it, and 2) learn something. HS doesn't teach you anything useful so that's why everyone has to go to college these days. "

To Disgusted wrote on Sep 19, 2006 2:13 PM:

" So I guess Apple Computer and Microsft don't exist. Successful people will succeed - with or without college. "

Disgusted wrote on Sep 19, 2006 1:43 PM:

" Yes, college is not for everyone. But don't expect to be a professional anything. Don't plan on being a politician and don't expect to make a lot of money. Also, don't plan on moving to the big city. Don't consider seeing what the broader world offers. Heck, stay right in Lodi, get a job at Taco Bell. Oh, maybe start your own cosmology shop. Oh wait... no one's going to give you any money because you haven't proven yourself. Yea. Good idea. "

LodiFemale wrote on Sep 19, 2006 1:38 PM:

" I still dont know if college is for me. I've spent three years at CSU Sac and still don't know what I want to major in. So I feel your pain. "

Totally Agree wrote on Sep 19, 2006 12:46 PM:

" College is not for everyone! "

masters student wrote on Sep 19, 2006 11:43 AM:

" College is not for everyone, especially if you feel that “college is a corrupt system.” And I do not think there is anything wrong with making a career out of being a student. I have at least five more years of school ahead of me to get my PhD, too bad my parents aren’t giving me a free-ride. "

Fischgoth wrote on Sep 19, 2006 11:02 AM:

" Too many young people are making "careers" out of being students. Some, like the article points out, go to college because their parents insist on it not because they are following their own hearts and minds. For some it's too much pressure and sets them up for failure. Education is invaluable. However, college is NOT for everyone. "

Jenny wrote on Sep 19, 2006 10:16 AM:

" Being a college senior and a student at a CSU I know what the girl is feeling. I wanted to go straight into law enforcement but instead I have to put up with the b.s. of drunk classmates and crazy liberal professors. WAKE UP MOM AND DAD! "

Gayle wrote on Sep 19, 2006 9:42 AM:

" I know a lot of kids like this, heck, I was one of them. If the parents are forking out the $$$ what can the kid do but respect their wishes? "

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