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Lodi City Council interested in federal immigration law

Little-used provision allows local police to detain illegal aliens

By Jake Armstrong
News-Sentinel Staff Writer
Saturday, May 27, 2006 4:20 PM PDT

Lodi City Council members expressed interest this week in an aspect of federal immigration law that allows local police to detain individuals who are in the United States illegally.

The provision of the Immigration and Nationality Act has existed since 1996 but was not used until after Sept. 11, 2001, when Florida state police discovered that 9-11 hijacker Mohammed Atta had numerous run-ins with police in Florida but was never identified as having overstayed his visa.

Now, after the arrest of an criminal illegal alien in connection with the attempted rape of a Lodi woman, council members say they want to hear more about that portion of the law, which can give local cops the training and authority to identify, process and detain immigration offenders they encounter during the course of daily police work.

"Anything we can do to make the community safer is going to be a positive step," Mayor Susan Hitchcock said. "It sounds like we should take a look at it."

Efforts to identify illegal aliens, even criminal offenders, vary widely across the country. In San Joaquin County, there is no coordinated policy to spot illegal offenders and deport them. While federal law allows local agencies to be more aggressive in pursuing and deporting aliens, some are strongly opposed to such an expansion. They believe a more forceful role only creates distrust among immigrant communities and ties local police up in immigration red tape.

Earlier this month, police arrested Victor Hugo Vazquez, a Mexican national in the United States illegally, after he allegedly broke into a Lodi home and was about to rape a young mother inside. Though Vazquez had been arrested for driving under the influence and possession of drugs, it took the attempted rape charge for authorities to learn he was in the country illegally. In Lodi, checking the immigration status of criminal suspects is left to the discretion of the arresting officer or supervisor.

Councilman John Beckman said local police should not be searching solely for illegal immigrants. "But if they do in the course of their duties find an illegal alien, turning them over to immigration authorities is absolutely something they should be doing."

Jose Rodriguez, executive director of the social service agency El Concilio — Council for the Spanish Speaking, said he feared that having police take on greater immigration authority could prompt crime victims and witnesses to stay away from police.

"That would send a chilling message to the community that people who are undocumented should not have contact with police," he said. "I think this would put distance between them and law enforcement to solve crimes or report crimes."

Councilman Larry Hansen, Lodi's police chief until six years ago, expressed concern that lax enforcement at the border would allow criminal aliens to return to the United States no matter how many times they are deported.

"I would want it to be something that if the council went for it, it would mean something," he said.

By the numbers: Deportations of criminal aliens

Fiscal year 2006: 35,355

Fiscal year 2005: 80,645

Fiscal year 2004: 86,047

Source: U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement

Councilwoman JoAnne Mounce sought more information on the issue, mainly on effectiveness, ramifications to citizens, and costs.

"I'd like to talk about it and see if it's something that can help us," she said, adding that the police department should first review and offer a recommendation on such a move.

Lodi police have the ability to check a person's immigration status through the National Crime Information Center, and can notify immigration authorities when they find that someone who may be in the country illegally, Lodi Police Chief Jerry Adams said.

Officers currently do not seek out illegal aliens. When officers encounter someone here illegally, the decision to notify ICE is left to the arresting officer or their supervisor, Adams said.

"They make that determination on a case by case basis," he said.

To take on greater authority, the city would first have to enter into an agreement with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement that would outline the specific authority given to local police. A group of officers would go through a five-week training course on immigration law, civil rights, intercultural relations, and issues of racial profiling.

After certification, the officers are granted special immigration enforcement authorities under the Immigration and Nationality Act. Those officers are then able to question and detain an individual for possible deportation by ICE. All decisions by local police are reviewed by ICE agents.

A tool for enforcement

ICE spokeswoman Virginia Kice said the law can help local police in cases when suspects are a flight risk or a repeat immigration offender.

"This is not designed to turn local police into immigration officers. It's another tool they can use when doing their typical duties," she said.

Florida was the first to have its state police perform immigration checks under the provision, followed by Alabama state police, who found they could not detain illegal immigrants long enough for ICE to step in, Kice said. The Arizona Department of Corrections and sheriff's department jail operations in Los Angeles, San Bernardino and Riverside counties followed, Kice said. Now as many as 10 other police agencies are working on reaching similar agreements with ICE, Kice said.

After an arrest of a criminal found to be in the country illegally, local authorities would decide whether to pursue local prosecution of the crime for which the individual was arrested. ICE places an immigration hold on the suspect at that time.

The individual will serve their sentence, if convicted. ICE takes custody at the end of the sentence and the outcome at that point depends on the individual's immigration history, Kice said.

ICE can either reinstate a deportation order if the individual was previously removed from the country, or pursue a felony charge of re-entering the United States after deportation., which is punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

Immigration agents have found the most success in finding and prosecuting criminal immigrants in jails, Kice said.

A representative for Alabama state police did not return a call requesting comment.

Status check

At the San Joaquin County Jail in French Camp, ICE agents do review booking logs twice a week to identify any inmates living in the country illegally, said Deputy Les Garcia, spokesman for the San Joaquin County Sheriff's Department.

If agents overlook someone, that person continues through the jail system.

The sheriff department doesn't check immigration status, Garcia said.

"We're challenged enough by just our local and day-to-day calls for service," he said. "Enforcing federal immigration laws — that's up to the federal agencies."

Lodi Detective Mike Kermgard said officers notify ICE of suspects who are here illegally roughly twice a month. Those suspects have been deported to a variety of countries. Officers use the practice mainly for gang members and other serious offenders, Kermgard said.

Still, council members, who were unaware of the rarely used provision, had serious questions about having local police assume duties that historically have fallen to federal authorities.

"I don't know what it would do to our manpower," Councilman Bob Johnson said. "If we do detain somebody, what do we do with them? It's something that obviously would have to be discussed."

Officers in do not report suspected illegal aliens to ICE, Stockton police spokesman Pete Smith said, adding he did know exactly when the policy took effect.

Officials at the Galt Police Department were out of town Friday and could not be reached for comment.

Problems of the past

During Hansen's tenure as police chief, the department occasionally found that suspects were living here illegally and notified federal authorities, who would take them into federal custody.

But Hansen said getting suspected illegal aliens into the hands of immigration authorities eventually proved tricky, as cutbacks apparently reduced the number of agents in the field.

"Picking them up was an exercise in futility," he said. "I think the issue is, does border patrol have the staffing to respond and deport those individuals?"

Hansen said he is not in favor of turning Lodi's officers into immigration agents, which ICE says the provision is not intended to do. But he said he supports immigration checks on criminal suspects that could lead to the deportation of criminal aliens.

But the fact that deported criminals could return to the United States with relative ease would render the program almost useless. Hansen said there were cases in Lodi during the 1980s and 1990s in which an illegal alien would be deported in connection with a crime only to show up in Lodi again a week later.

"If the issue of patrolling the borders isn't resolved, how effective is that going to be?" Hansen asked.

Adams said local law enforcement agencies must use caution to not be perceived as "quasi border patrol agents," which could persuade crime victims and witnesses not to come forward if they are here illegally.

"We want different segments of the community to have trust and faith. We do have to be cautious that we're not doing things that cause a problem in that area," he said.

Hitchcock said she would want a policy that reduces crime and "not unintentionally increase it."

Contact reporter Jake Armstrong at jakea@lodinews.com.

First published: Saturday, May 27, 2006

Reader Feedback

Brian wrote on Jun 4, 2006 9:51 AM:

" Double standards?! Oh Yeah! "

Brian wrote on Jun 4, 2006 9:49 AM:

" Foreigners who extend their stay (normally 30-90 days max) are subject to arrest and go to prison & fined and deported home. Foreigners who become citizens of Mexico cannot ever hold any public office nor become a clergy "

Brian wrote on Jun 4, 2006 9:48 AM:

" Foreigners are not allowed to demonstrate in Mexico. If they do, they are arrested in mass and go to jail. And once in jail you have to pay about $200 American to get out. "

If You Want To Burn My Mexican Flag: wrote on Jun 3, 2006 3:21 PM:

" I welcome your coming to my home to discuss the problems between hispanics and non-hispanics! I live at 532 Harold Street and will offer a Corona to all who come in peace! If your a racist, save it for someone else! "

To FRANCISCO A BRENES: wrote on Jun 3, 2006 3:18 PM:

" You have never read once of a illegal hispanic bringing a gun or bomb into America! We seek the same quality of life every immigrant has always wanted since 1776! We cannot stand in line for years to have what we crave....Freedom! "

Why Not Talk About Our Differences! wrote on Jun 3, 2006 2:51 PM:

" We hispanics are not racists! "I live at 532 Harold St. off Lodi avenue and would welcome your talking with me and my family abou this issue. I proudly fly a Mexican and American flag in my yard. Surely we can work towards a better understanding in Lodi!" "

kv wrote on Jun 1, 2006 8:46 PM:

" T & C - do you need a date a something? What is up with all your hatred on every issue!? "

Tired of gangs wrote on Jun 1, 2006 6:04 PM:

" I plead that all of you illegal aliens hiding in east Lodi, reflect on your crimes and return to Mexico with your gangs, graffiti, and head lice to make your home country better through work and participation. "

Caveman wrote on Jun 1, 2006 4:21 PM:

" I can't believe the racist comments from my fellow citizens. There is more white trash around Lodi than you can shake a stick at, as evidenced by these comments! "

FRANCISCO A BRENES wrote on May 31, 2006 10:14 PM:

" Security the border should be the top Priority on all american citizens. and the Federal goverment responsability secure and closed the border. no charge to all individual state or TAXPAYERS. all new immigrant to come a alien resident, have responsability to paid for the cost of the border fance "

francisco a brenes wrote on May 31, 2006 9:49 PM:

" the police have a job. to arrester all illigan alien on all state. and returns that peope illigan to her country. I have to proter the border. againt the illigar immigrant. "

American Warrior wrote on May 31, 2006 4:53 PM:

" Mucho loco la cabeza! Never forget my friend, as combat warriors Americans never lose, NEVER! "

If You Want To Burn My Mexican Flag wrote on May 31, 2006 4:18 PM:

" I am 100% hispanic and proud of it! You hispanic haters will never have the nerve to tear the flag from my yard! None of you have the guts to do crap face to face! I will learn english when it snows 10 feet in Lodi!" "

JFK wrote on May 31, 2006 3:12 PM:

" "Ask not what your Country can do for you, but what you can do for your Country. -J.F.K. "

Observer wrote on May 30, 2006 10:25 PM:

" To Sam...you're right on. May 1 has had a tremendous backlash on the Mexicans. Fight politically. Call and write the government officials. Don't let the criminals drain our economy. "

T & C wrote on May 30, 2006 6:49 PM:

" Senti, it's you and your kind who bring all of your ILLEGAL friends and relatives to live with you. You are just as irresponsible as they are. Go Home if you're not legal, you're a criminal. "

Sam wrote on May 30, 2006 5:22 PM:

" I have to admit, I was clueless about the illegal abuse until May 1st. That day I felt like they insulted my country in a HUGE way. I have become politcally involved to make a difference. Jump in Lodi! "

Jones wrote on May 30, 2006 4:35 PM:

" God, this is getting old. People of Lodi, it's time to take are town back! Let's find all these Mexicans and send them back over the wall!! Mexicans cause nothing but crime. "

Scott Summers wrote on May 30, 2006 4:32 PM:

" I don't have a problem with mexicans, I just wish they would learn how to speek english. I feel like i'm in Mexico when I go to Wal Mart and K-Mart. "

Mr. Buttkiss wrote on May 30, 2006 4:31 PM:

" senti, go back to mexico. Us people of lodi are don't want your kind here! Lodi is becoming a little Mexico "

senti wrote on May 30, 2006 12:49 PM:

" You do realize that not ALL Mexicans living in Lodi are illegal; which should make you realize that Lodi is never going to become this town with no Mexicans.....NEVER! We're here to stay...legally AND illegally. Just wait and see..... "

Sign the petition wrote on May 30, 2006 11:14 AM:

" http://www.petitiononline.com/eldred/petition.html "

I'm Mexican and here! wrote on May 30, 2006 9:47 AM:

" If you don't like the color of my skin, or my music, or the sweat off my back that puts food on your table, then leave my state. We hispanics don't need any of you white racists! "

Grapegrower wrote on May 30, 2006 7:35 AM:

" OTH, I have been reading Jerry F's passionate plees to same his land (surrounded by the new Delta) so I took a_drive out there. What a GORGEOUS area..homes built right up to the river. That is NO place for a college! I understand Jerry's frustration! "

OTH wrote on May 29, 2006 8:47 PM:

" TO T&C and Grapegrower...thank you for the info. Re: Mr Hood's article it's sad that our city paper has become a pathetic puppet for the CC. I've heard nothing new on Delta site but have ears open. Something this smelly is bound to float to the surface. "

T & C wrote on May 29, 2006 8:02 PM:

" There'll be a meeting this Wednesday at 6:30! See you there! You'll see who is friends with who, inside and outside. "

T & C wrote on May 29, 2006 8:00 PM:

" http://www.lodi.gov/ "

T & C wrote on May 29, 2006 7:59 PM:

" It's really great to see all of these CC members and city managers and not one of them with any idea of what's going on. Hitchcock and Hansen babble constantly so bring some snacks. They're very long. "

T & C wrote on May 29, 2006 7:56 PM:

" http://www.lodi.gov/ OTH and grapegrower, here's the website. Tune in on wednesday night's of the CC meeting and scroll down to the CC box on the lower left, & bingo, away you go. "

GrapeGrower wrote on May 29, 2006 7:40 PM:

" Oth, T&C directed me here... http://www.lodi.gov/clerk/council_agendas.htm T&C, please correct me if I am wrong! THNX!!! "

GrapeGrower wrote on May 29, 2006 7:38 PM:

" Thanks OTH for directing me to Jeff's article. It was an interesting read. TOO BAD LNS does not like to publish what is really going on. ANY word on the new Delta site??? just curious!!! "

OTH wrote on May 29, 2006 5:37 PM:

" T&C what is the citys website. I can't find it anywhere. Thanks Read Jeff Hood's article in todays Stkn Record about the traffic problems coming our way. CC didn't want the developer to do the study. Wonder why? "

Dick Jones wrote on May 29, 2006 2:01 PM:

" Mexicans are here and I don't like it. "

City Council Member wrote on May 29, 2006 7:19 AM:

" As a city council member I take offense at the pot shots you are making here. I work hard 7 days a week for all the kickbacks I receive! I will vote for anything if I smell $$$$! "

Sally wrote on May 28, 2006 11:38 PM:

" I saw some land near Rio Vista for sale. Maybe Lodi could buy it for their greenbelt. "

Daisy wrote on May 28, 2006 11:36 PM:

" rov...where did you go to school...Georgia? "

T & C wrote on May 28, 2006 10:39 PM:

" Grapegrower, just go to the city of Lodi's website and you'll find in the lower left a box with options to view the CC meetings every other Wednesday. Very interesting. "

rov wrote on May 28, 2006 10:19 PM:

" the herald news dont allowd attacks or rascist language than whats all this page about? "

Preacher wrote on May 28, 2006 9:35 PM:

" And Beckman who now professes property rights but favors increasing water and sewer rates is evidence about the bankruptcy of our City Council but we know despite their faults that Jesus loves them "

Preacher wrote on May 28, 2006 9:27 PM:

" Father Hasen, looking a little dumpy dressed in a too-tight shirt and about as plain a fellow as you can imagine. But they blieved in him. HIs insight into managing the electric utility and the water contamination had brought the city into a standing ovation. "

Preacher wrote on May 28, 2006 9:25 PM:

" The people are overjoyed. Hansen and Hitchcock saying nothing. It is a new experience for the people of Lodi to have an opportunity to admire these great leaders of our community. Praise be the Lord! "

Preacher wrote on May 28, 2006 9:19 PM:

" Father Devine Hansen with Mother Devine HItchcock following him into the room simply stand their and smile, say nothing, never open thier mouths and not say a word. They simply allow themselves to be adored. "

Michelle wrote on May 28, 2006 7:08 PM:

" I think the bigger problem in Lodi is the racist people like those who have left messages here, and can't even spell correctly. "

GrapeGrower wrote on May 28, 2006 5:14 PM:

" T&C, I can't vote, but I am working like crazy to get you guys a new city council! We landowners are not sitting here quietly , accepting the city's threat to push us around! Wait until you see what is coming Lodi's way from us!!! "

T & C wrote on May 28, 2006 4:06 PM:

" Farmering, I kinda like that! Wonder where that came from? LOL "

T & C wrote on May 28, 2006 4:05 PM:

" Gee grapegrower, could we care to try and guess why that happened? LOL This CC and planning commission are as corrupt as they come. The CC shouldn't be allowed to make these decisions. Farmering is definitely not their expertise, if you know what I mean. "

GrapeGrower wrote on May 28, 2006 3:25 PM:

" T&C, Funny that Beckman's family land WAS taken out of the proposed Greenbelt. In fact all the landowners on the Greenbelt Task Force had THEIR land (Not all of Fry's, but a lot of it) taken out of the proposed Greenbelt. "

T & C wrote on May 28, 2006 1:04 PM:

" There never was a follow up on that at all. You can't slur a good old Lodi family that has a history here. They took that money and put it into their own PERSONAL businesses. Watch: Beckman's family land and the greenbelt!Another CC ruse. "

T & C wrote on May 28, 2006 1:01 PM:

" The same amount of time the Goehring family got for stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from the Mokelumne River school. 0. It was a back page story. "

NewSubject wrote on May 28, 2006 10:42 AM:

" And what about Shelley Kenefick? I wonder how many years she will get for stealing from those old people. "

T & C wrote on May 28, 2006 9:57 AM:

" confused, you're right, but what the heck,at least it's somewhat informative. It's about the CC and the CC is all about farmland! enjoy! "

GrapeGrower wrote on May 28, 2006 9:55 AM:

" Thanks T&C. I have been driven to many a rant on these blogs. As a county dweller I am not allowed to run for CC or even vote for the CC, yet they try like crazy to control me. Like you said, they are-a-selfish lot that cannot be trusted. "

Confused wrote on May 28, 2006 9:38 AM:

" Stay focused people, this particular blog is not about farm land. "

T & C wrote on May 28, 2006 9:12 AM:

" It's the same thing today, but a candyland for developers who would sell their soul to the devil in a flash. Who would give the city the right to decide whose land is worth how much? City Council, butt out! "

T & C wrote on May 28, 2006 9:07 AM:

" I still remember bucking those hay bales on grandpa's farm in North Dakota in the mid 50's. The oil companies stole that land and to this day it sits with smelly oil derricks on it pumping oil. "

T & C wrote on May 28, 2006 7:57 AM:

" You are the very person that I defend in this land issue grapegrower. I'd very much rather work and think with you rather than against you! I apologize for my rants. "

OTH wrote on May 28, 2006 7:51 AM:

" GRAPEGROWER......you're are right our town was gone 40 years ago and anyone that was here then knows it. The citizens of Lodi did not pollute the water, but they want us to pay for it. That's not fair. "

Sam wrote on May 28, 2006 7:00 AM:

" Different subject... I am trying to find an online map of the proposed site for Lodi's SJ Delta College on Hwy 12. Can anyone help me with the URL address? THNX "

Frank OZ wrote on May 27, 2006 10:31 PM:

" I hate mexicans! "

GrapeGrower wrote on May 27, 2006 8:04 PM:

" T&C I am not your enemy! "

boofugg wrote on May 27, 2006 7:57 PM:

" I guess it's apparent to anyone who reads or keeps up with news events that the U.S. government doesn't care a twit about it's own American citizens. If anything is done about illegal immigration it will be done through armed insurrection by the American public. "

T & C wrote on May 27, 2006 7:44 PM:

" Grapegrower, I want the farmers themselves to be able to control their own destiny. We can see that this City council doesn't care about you and I, only themselves. They'll cheat you in a minute. They're trying right now. "

GrapeGrower wrote on May 27, 2006 6:28 PM:

" T&C... I am not paying for the Walldog function because it has no effect on me. Actually, my crop is NOT effected by Lodi. I live outside Lodi! Hey vote NO on a Greenbelt, pave over us, and I will be gone!!! "

GrapeGrower wrote on May 27, 2006 6:20 PM:

" T&C give me a break. Sorry you can't make a living!YOU LODIANS with LNS and Guild have ruined your water. Please, YOU BUILT Lodi in our vineyards. Give it a rest! You hate vineyards, why are you here? "

T & C wrote on May 27, 2006 5:47 PM:

" Grapegrower, you pollute our groundwater with your herbicides and pesticides. And I'll bet those kids love seeing their parents guzzling that wine. Pay for your own functions. You're the ones with the money! "

GrapeGrower wrote on May 27, 2006 5:17 PM:

" Our Little town was gone 40 years ago! Lodi needs to grow now to expand it's tax base. You don't even want to pay for your clean water??? Who should pay??? Those who drink it!!! "

GrapeGrower wrote on May 27, 2006 5:15 PM:

" By the way, this weekends event is FOR families. These Walldogs are amazing to watch!! For Saturday and Sunday these artists are painting away! What greater thing to show your kids! People hard at work, doing what they love! "

GrapeGrower wrote on May 27, 2006 5:09 PM:

" Come on T&C... I do not use illegals to harvest my grapes and my cherries. I AM against illegal immigration. AND those wine functions do NOT benefit me! AND I HATE your City Council for wanting to control my land!! Watch who you BASH! "

I pee on the grapes I pick wrote on May 27, 2006 4:54 PM:

" you hate us tan skinned people so much, I always pee on the grapes I pick for you to drink, haha! "

T & C wrote on May 27, 2006 1:25 PM:

" There's a wine function nearly every weekend that benefits those same farmers that use cheap labor in their fields, but never any family type functions that anyone can AFFORD. Quit subsidizing the chamber and these non-profits, bring FAMILIES back! "

T & C wrote on May 27, 2006 1:22 PM:

" Our little town is gone and our CC just caters to the developers and big businesses. The Chamber of Commercials caters to the fly by night low paying businesses for their tax base. We foot the bills for them both.Bye Patrick! "

Constance Tution wrote on May 27, 2006 12:17 PM:

" Mexican immigration is more deadly to the American way of life than any toxic spill, poison or environmental disaster. "

Jonathan L. wrote on May 27, 2006 11:49 AM:

" The Concilio is concerned that illegals will not trust the police or report crimes? Maybe they should consider that Citizens pay the taxes to provide the police and in my opinion, that does not entitle someone here illegally the right to use their services! "

Gay_Guy_In_Lodi wrote on May 27, 2006 11:42 AM:

" I don't really like being around mexicans. They smell really bad and makes me get a little sick being around them. "

Lodi Mother wrote on May 27, 2006 11:40 AM:

" Lodi has become a little Mexico. It's time to end it now! "

John Dope wrote on May 27, 2006 11:39 AM:

" I say the only good thing mexicans are good for is cleaning houses, washing cars and picking up grapes in the fileds. Thats about all they are good for. "

Scott Gayload wrote on May 27, 2006 11:36 AM:

" To all the mexicans, Go back to Mexico! We do want you and the crime you make here. Look at what happend in Stockton last week! Mexicans are crime here!!! "

Solution wrote on May 27, 2006 10:52 AM:

" Yes Lodi has sure gone to Hell. The East Side looks terrible, no one speaks English. It was different when i was growing up here. Mexicans paint houses bright colors and never take care of their yards. Gangs & drugs. "

T & C wrote on May 27, 2006 10:20 AM:

" Lodi has turned to but a stump in the forest. When I moved here in 1987, this was a rich, sophisticated, neat little town. And then along came Snyder?, Vaccarezzi, and walmart and it suddenly went to hell in a handbasket (full of money). "

Skilos wrote on May 27, 2006 9:25 AM:

" The City and County here should follow the lead of Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Arizona. The rule of law helped create what Lodi is where the present day drift to anarchy will dictate what Lodi will be in the future. "

WoW wrote on May 27, 2006 8:44 AM:

" INS used to moniter the jail DAILY, maybe those in politics should try to get that back!! "

Hey wrote on May 27, 2006 8:43 AM:

" If they fill up the jail with iLLegals, how many REAL crooks are going to get an early release? Not that I don't think the should be deported but keeping a car thief/robber is more important than an illegal. "

Solution wrote on May 27, 2006 8:20 AM:

" Finally they can do something about all the illegals living in our town. Send them the hell back to Mexico and secure the borders so they can't return. "

Fed up wrote on May 27, 2006 7:54 AM:

" This immigration issue seems to be a don't ask don't tell load of crap that taxpayers are continually getting reamed over. "

T & C wrote on May 27, 2006 7:45 AM:

" CC take care of your own business such as the pollution cleanup and raises for your own city employees so the illegals will be priced out of a job. Just how many work for the city, anyway? "

T & C wrote on May 27, 2006 7:43 AM:

" Lodi CC is going to talk about this? Don't talk about it, just enforce the laws that're on the books now and get them the heck out. Go to KMart, no one hardly speaks English there anymore. "

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